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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2009.10.04 09:34:00 -
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Jita Direct Sale (JIDSALE) is the third option for trading in Jita. Manufacturers and traders coming to Jita now have the opportunity to sell to us at a price that is in between the sell order and buy order market price.
Before you read further, be aware that the JIDSALE 1st bond has not been returned to investors yet! But if you were one of those that were cut out on the first one, you can consider this one.
You can read more on the first bond thread here (started my my alt Sistar2): Linkage
Explanation I am not sure what I am proposing has ever been done before, and I expect to get some flaming (which I didnÆt on the first bond). I am starting the second bond before the first bond has matured, which is not until October 12. I do have good reasons for doing this:
Business has been quite good. I have made at least 700 mil isk in profit from the 2 bil I accepted in bonds, and thus will have no problem with paying back the bonds plus interest rate. (The 700 mil does not include assets that I posess atm). However, I had expected to make more. My business consists of two divisions: 1) Normal station trading and 2) JIDSALE. But JIDSALE is still in its infancy and has hardly earned me a penny over these 3 weeks. This is mainly because I offer gracious deals to new costumers, and because a 2 day absence from Eve turned into 5 days and that cost me a deal of money and momentum.
I have already paid back half of the 1st bond, and in short, I need liquid isk in the coming weeks. A top customer offered me 6 strategic cruisers, I could only buy 1. That sucks. Therefore this offer.
The bond I am selling 20 bonds of a value of 100,000,000 isk each û a single investor can buy up to 10 bonds. The interest will be 20 percent, and returned like this: after 2 weeks you will receive 20 % of your investment back, and 2 weeks later 100 % of your investment is paid back on top of that. Investors that buy this bond will have privileges when later bonds come out.
Confidence A lot of people showed confidence in the first bond, and I am building a rep. There is no audit planned, and audit would show that I trade 23/7, but that does not prove I will not scam you. An interested investor can ask for a list of my customers, you can ask any of them if they have business with JIDSALE.
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2009.10.04 09:42:00 -
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2nd bond investors:
I promised 1st bond investors that they would have privileges on 2nd bond. Since I don't expect 1st bond investors to reinvest before you get your money back (!) you will get priviliges on 3rd bond instead. I plan to release 3rd bond before 2nd bond is paid back in order to have high liquidity at all times.
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flakeys
Vanguard Frontiers
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Posted - 2009.10.04 10:34:00 -
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20% return? Too good to be true SO ,
reserve me 10 shares please since this appearantly is the limit .I will wire the 1 bille in a minute.
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Zelian Rage
Deep Space Logistics
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Posted - 2009.10.04 10:37:00 -
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I'll take one share please
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Erialor Godsent
Gallente Federal Navy Support Divison
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Posted - 2009.10.04 11:06:00 -
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I'm up for 5 shares - wiring some money after DT --
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Signore Kaeota
Caldari Caelum Incognitum
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Posted - 2009.10.04 11:08:00 -
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I'll take two.
Depositing isk after DT. -_-_-_-
I, Signore Kaeota, hereby apologise for any and all offence caused by the contents of this above post, and all others that I have written, or otherwise been responsible for.
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Abernie
Intolerable Tyranny
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Posted - 2009.10.04 11:09:00 -
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I'll take the last 2 shares. ISK after DT.
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cpt Mark
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Posted - 2009.10.04 11:12:00 -
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I'll take one of those off that last guy, so he only takes 1.
Also, I'd like to trade with your JIDSALE.
perhaps we can create a small partnership.
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2009.10.04 11:15:00 -
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Well, pending the transfers for the last 3 investors, I guess...
- that's all folks. Apologies to those that weren't around to see the opportunity. One or two of you may post here in case there is a default.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2009.10.04 11:20:00 -
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Grats! One and a half hours - new record?
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Signore Kaeota
Caldari Caelum Incognitum
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Posted - 2009.10.04 11:55:00 -
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200mil deposited to toon: Cista2
Thanks! -_-_-_-
I, Signore Kaeota, hereby apologise for any and all offence caused by the contents of this above post, and all others that I have written, or otherwise been responsible for.
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Erialor Godsent
Gallente Federal Navy Support Divison
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Posted - 2009.10.04 12:04:00 -
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ISK wired... --
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Eve NewEden
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Posted - 2009.10.04 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Cista2
Edit: all bonds have been paid. Sorry if you were not around to see this, the third bond will be up in 7-8 days and slightly larger
Confidence A lot of people showed confidence in the first bond, and I am building a rep. There is no audit planned, and audit would show that I trade 23/7, but that does not prove I will not scam you. An interested investor can ask for a list of my customers, you can ask any of them if they have business with JIDSALE.
No audit? No collateral? 2 B ISK bond sold out in no time? All sold to non-regulars?
How come the MD elite is not all over this thread? Don't the new and gullable deserve some warning and protection?
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SetrakDark
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Posted - 2009.10.04 13:51:00 -
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lol. not that i consider myself elite, but:
-2 investors are regular posters -cista doesnt have that weird "scaminess" to her -an audit would verify more, but her basic story checks out
I wouldn't invest without an audit, but I can see why others are willing to go ahead without
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flakeys
Vanguard Frontiers
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Posted - 2009.10.04 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Eve NewEden Don't the new and gullable deserve some warning and protection?
I did mention 20% is too good to be true didn't i?
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Thoraemond
Minmatar Far Ranger
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Posted - 2009.10.04 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Eve NewEden
Originally by: Cista2 Edit: all bonds have been paid. Sorry if you were not around to see this, the third bond will be up in 7-8 days and slightly larger
Confidence: A lot of people showed confidence in the first bond, and I am building a rep. There is no audit planned, and audit would show that I trade 23/7, but that does not prove I will not scam you. An interested investor can ask for a list of my customers, you can ask any of them if they have business with JIDSALE.
No audit? No collateral? 2 GISK bond sold out in no time? All sold to non-regulars?
How come the MD elite is not all over this thread? Don't the new and gullible deserve some warning and protection?
This offering and its context appear consistent with a scamming plan of: 'Offer good, real returns a few times to grind MD standings, in a few quick offerings (no need to operate a business since no audit, can just pay out of pocket), and then do a runner with all the ISK from the final offering when able to net enough to make scamming worthwhile'.
So investing now may be seen as a form of gambling:
- if it's a scam attempt in progress, the issuer will need to pay out on the initial offerings in order to grind MD standings. The question is whether this offering is the final offering in the sequence, since that's probably the only one that won't be paid out; and
- if it's not a scam attempt in progress, then the only risks are the usual business failure risks.
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Coleostro
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Posted - 2009.10.04 16:34:00 -
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Dang, late again. :(
I'll keep an eye out for the next one though I will be AFK for a week...
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2009.10.17 09:13:00 -
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20 % interest has been paid today, principal return is due November 1.
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Erialor Godsent
Gallente Federal Navy Support Divison
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Posted - 2009.10.17 09:18:00 -
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Confirming receipt of 20% interests - thanks. --
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flakeys
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.10.17 09:23:00 -
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Received , thanks
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Signore Kaeota
Caldari Caelum Incognitum
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Posted - 2009.10.17 09:27:00 -
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received, was wondering why you paid me 40 mil :P thanks! -_-_-_-
I, Signore Kaeota, hereby apologise for any and all offence caused by the contents of this above post, and all others that I have written, or otherwise been responsible for.
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2009.10.30 15:02:00 -
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I have paid back 2nd bond in full today. Thank you investors for your confidence in me.
3rd bond is still running, will mature on November 12. Instead of launching a new bond I will now be selling shares in Jidsale. I have contracted Kazuo Ishiguro to do a simple audit on my activities and NAV tomorrow. Then I will sell 100 shares on an auction in the first half of November, hopefully this initiative will be well received by MD.
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flakeys
DRAMA Inc
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Posted - 2009.10.30 21:13:00 -
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Thanks for a good deal cista.Good luck on your future business projects.
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Zelian Rage
Deep Space Logistics
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Posted - 2009.10.31 00:38:00 -
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Recieved, thanks Cista
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Signore Kaeota
Caldari Caelum Incognitum
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Posted - 2009.10.31 01:36:00 -
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received - thanks! -_-_-_-
I, Signore Kaeota, hereby apologise for any and all offence caused by the contents of this above post, and all others that I have written, or otherwise been responsible for.
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