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THE L0CK
Denying You Access
474
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:29:00 -
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Makkal Hanaya wrote:THE L0CK wrote:Makkal Hanaya wrote:THE L0CK wrote: Group A (high sec) wants to see guns removed from the public eye, but to ask them to dirty their hands and do it themselves is just a ludicrous idea. Do you really think all of high sec wants to see guns removed from the public eye? Did I say all of high sec? I'm high sec and I've got guns that I use on bears from time to time. No, but your wording implied all, or at least a strong majority, might feel this way. Hence my asking.
My wording consist of High sec asking ccp to intervene on GSF actions in high sec, I gave no implications to group size. I likened it to the real world event as that it what it reminds me of (note personal opinion), also giving no number size.
Your mind subconsciously placed a number size into the statement. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
330
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:31:00 -
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Pax Deltari wrote:All right. So they just don't have any ships? So they can't attack the north?
They're talking to each other, not to you. In terms of appealing to null sec corps to go after Goonswarm, the null sec corps have their own agenda and don't really care about high sec. Nor should they. But sooner or later somebody will go after Goonswarm territory. Probably the Goons will still be here posting while their systems are in flames. |
Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
1088
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:34:00 -
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A lot of people?? Let me know when those 'lot of people' actually breaks the 1% of the subscription base.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
75
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:41:00 -
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THE L0CK wrote:My wording consist of High sec asking ccp to intervene on GSF actions in high sec, I gave no implications to group size. I likened it to the real world event as that it what it reminds me of (note personal opinion), also giving no number size.
Your mind subconsciously placed a number size into the statement.
The subconscious is so unruly at times. How fortunate that the conscious mind seeks clarification. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Major Killz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:42:00 -
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One alliance was going to be on top sooner or later. Game over. Time to press the restart button? |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
565
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:45:00 -
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Pax Deltari wrote:Seems a lot of people are crying for CCP to stop goonswarm because they're "Breaking the game" What about just crying for the other null sec alliances to team up and just attack Goons. Wouldn't they get a lot of support from High seccers? I feel like I havn't heard anything from the others (TEST RED SOLAR etc etc.) What's their opinion on Hulkageddon and stuff?
Because that would involve :effort: and talking to real people, instead of crying as loud as they can and hoping someone in hearing range listens. |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
720
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:48:00 -
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Pax Deltari wrote:How long does it take to get those things? If you intend to gather those things by whining on forums, a very long time. Incursions still need to be nerfed more. Cut payouts by 50% for all ships worth more than 10m. |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
294
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:52:00 -
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Pax Deltari wrote: Wouldn't they get a lot of support from High seccers? I feel like I havn't heard anything from the others (TEST RED SOLAR etc etc.) What's their opinion on Hulkageddon and stuff?
High seccers have never, ever, ever done anything remotely interesting or relevant in EVE-Online. High seccers only care about themselves and isk/hr. Despite a tiny minority of forum whiners, everyone thinks hulkageddon is a hilarious and fun event, even the majority of victims enjoy it. |
Tallon Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:54:00 -
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Makkal Hanaya wrote:Tallon Sylph wrote:We'd still win. Even with the lead weight that is WIDOT tied to our leg, we're still better at EVE than you. Even though we're terrible at EVE.
Think about it. Why do you consider yourself terrible at EVE?
Until you've been in a serious business fleet led by an actual dog you don't know what 'terrible at EVE' really is.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7783
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:54:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:You are one of those liberals who would argue an apple is a banna aslong as it's in the rules.. Don't be silly.
Bananas are berries; apples are accessory fruits. Completely different. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1009
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:19:00 -
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Pax Deltari wrote:All right Baltec is a dumbass. I'd like to get some words from people in the other null sec corps. Oh sure.
I'd ask the Solar Fleet and their friends. But I don't speak Russian - I think some of our diplomats do though.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Pax Deltari
Chrome Legion
7
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Posted - 2012.06.08 22:45:00 -
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I'm fluent in both Russian and American Think is wouild help me get into a null sec aliiance? |
Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
317
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Posted - 2012.06.08 23:31:00 -
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Pax Deltari wrote:I'm fluent in both Russian and American Think is wouild help me get into a null sec aliiance?
Ask the DRF Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1011
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Posted - 2012.06.09 04:22:00 -
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Doctor Benway Kado wrote:Tallon Sylph wrote:Makkal Hanaya wrote:Tallon Sylph wrote:We'd still win. Even with the lead weight that is WIDOT tied to our leg, we're still better at EVE than you. Even though we're terrible at EVE.
Think about it. Why do you consider yourself terrible at EVE? Until you've been in a serious business fleet led by an actual dog you don't know what 'terrible at EVE' really is. Hey now, that dog is a goon hero and one of our greatest assets. The CFC would be nothing more than a grand dream without his barks guiding us to victory. There's this guy who says "warp to the gate". His dog goes BARK BARK (translation: "you moron") Too late, the guy realizes his mistake "wait, if you warped you're dead" Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
909
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Posted - 2012.06.09 05:16:00 -
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people think the DRF still exists holy **** eh |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
684
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Posted - 2012.06.09 07:07:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:people think the DRF still exists holy ****
My mom didnt know the soviet union collapsed until 2003. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Cass Lie
State War Academy Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2012.06.09 08:15:00 -
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Serious answer incoming, null readers please kindly skip the following.
Dear OP, please have a look at the sov situation at the beginning of this year here and now now
Some very basics regarding the first map. The CFC(oalition), of notable high sec infamy as of late, is occupying the north-west portion of the map, from TEST space in Fountain to the Goonland in Deklein. The north is held by a loose coalition of alliances united mainly by the hatred for the former residents of the area. It's boundary stretches from Tenal way up north to the borderland region of Geminate. The vast reaches of the drone regions and the ever restless regions in the south east are held by an even looser coalition of alliances, united mainly by the fact that their leaders are speaking russian. They were called the Drone Region Coalition. The majority of the south is held by alliances that simply like to shoot stuff together, with AAA at the helm most of the time.
What happened between then and now is that north-western and south-eastern blocs collided, much shooting was had and you can see the results on the second map (meanwhile random stuff happened around Delve, as it always does). There are now effectively only two power blocs left and each is consolidating their position. The south is wondering if it isn't stretched too thin, while the north is trying not to get their ratting ships perma-jammed from the mighty guristas pirates. |
Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
82
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Posted - 2012.06.09 08:30:00 -
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Thank you for the map and information, Cass Lie.
As someone new to the game who knows little to nothing about null, the picture this forums paints is that 90% of null-space is held by Goon and Friends while every other null corporation is desperately clutching a small bit of land. I've never even heard of Solar Fleet or Intrepid Crossing before. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Alice Saki
Analog Folk SRS.
110
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Posted - 2012.06.09 09:02:00 -
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Just get into a Wormhole, I never hear any of this crap in there ^_^ http://tinyurl.com/RifterDeath My Rifter Adventure in Null |
Bernie Nator
Talocan Hive Talocan United
301
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Posted - 2012.06.09 09:09:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:Just get into a Wormhole, I never hear any of this crap in there ^_^ I second this notion. I enjoy target rich environs. |
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Jonni Favorite
Aliastra Gallente Federation
97
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Posted - 2012.06.09 09:11:00 -
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Pax Deltari wrote:How long does it take to get those things?
I call troll!
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
39
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Posted - 2012.06.09 13:29:00 -
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nm |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
177
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Posted - 2012.06.09 14:29:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:Just get into a Wormhole, I never hear any of this crap in there ^_^
The OP will even sell you one he found with offline POSs and guns!
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Commit Sudoku
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.06.09 14:43:00 -
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Makkal Hanaya wrote: I've never even heard of Solar Fleet or Intrepid Crossing before. Intrepid Crossing? guy on foreground: me posting guy in background: you |
InternetSpaceship
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.06.09 15:11:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Pax Deltari wrote:All right. So they just don't have any ships? So they can't attack the north? They all lack the funds, the ships, the pilots, the leadership, the logistics and the willpower to wage a large scale war.
No, all together, they could do it, but they won't. They all want Someone Else to do it. They don't want to put up their own resources or time, that's someone else's job. "Why won't someone else save us? Why do people expect us to do it ourselves?"
Hate us all you like, but goons and their allies treat each other far better than you pubbies treat each other. Newbies are showered in free isk just for asking, and given free ships to lose repeatedly to build up pvp skill without breaking the bank. Anyone can FC a fleet as long as they can get enough drunken assholes to gang up with them, and no one is required to do anything if they don't want to.
Because of that, we actually are able to organize and work together. If you Empire dorks ever figure that out, you'll be able to band together and finally run us out of Eve.
If every corp that hated GoonSwarm banded together against us, we'd be completely overwhelmed. We wouldn't stand a shadow of a chance.
I'm so doubtful that will ever happen, though, that I'm willing to come in here and spell out exactly how you can beat us. Official Recruiter for GoonSwarm Corporation.
If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.-á If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1833
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Posted - 2012.06.09 15:13:00 -
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Commit Sudoku wrote:Makkal Hanaya wrote: I've never even heard of Solar Fleet or Intrepid Crossing before. Intrepid Crossing?
Welped-Fleets-R-US Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
137
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Posted - 2012.06.09 21:02:00 -
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Makkal Hanaya wrote:Thank you for the map and information, Cass Lie.
As someone new to the game who knows little to nothing about null, the picture this forums paints is that 90% of null-space is held by Goon and Friends while every other null corporation is desperately clutching a small bit of land. I've never even heard of Solar Fleet or Intrepid Crossing before.
Nah there is all sorts of space out here.
However, you can't just roll in and wave a finger and start ratting, someone is going to swing by and kick over your sandcastle.
Guess I'll start in the North east.
The DRF is no more (in fact xXDeathXx actually disbanded) Solar holds the majority of the drone regions. IRC sits in Cobalt Edge mining (yes,mining rorques and orcas and hulks and all) and ratting and getting dropped in on constantly by everyone that can get a titan to a POS even relatively close. NC. Sits between Solar and the CFC playing politics to keep their space, essentially this is the Tech Bropact, they shoot each other occasionally, but that is generally where it ends. They have to walk a fine line. Pissing off Solar traditionally isn't good for business, and the CFC can pound away with numbers that It takes pretty much the rest of the map to match.
The CFC, well they are the CFC, put 5 ships on a gate camp, in their space and the response fleet is likely to be triple digit, move in a real fleet and they flood the system with three full 256 man fleets, match that and people are btching and moaning all the way across the cluster about the TiDi. GSF, TEST, RZR, LAWN, SMA, Fatal Assention....all under one umbrella
South of TEST, you find the Thunderdome, Delve, its an oddbal mix of sov and NPS space, and as such extremely hard to hold, because anyone that can put or gain access to a POS can jump in and move around. RA (was) Trying to kick Nulli adn Vera Cruze out, Nulli/VC were waving both fingers in the air with a big old FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU and in came PL, after PL got whacked around a bit they brought in their favorite meatshields TEST and Nulli and RA blued up to try to get rid of the interlopers interfering with their scrap.
Such is life.
Further east you have a pack of regions like Period Basis that are logistic nightmares to live in, but people do, they are usually loosely aligned with -A-, the Southern bloc is generally -A-, ROL, Nulli, FAIL, En Gaurde and SE. All of whom may be blue or neutral.....depending on what is happening.
The map is pretty quiet compared to the beginning of the year, White Noise was steamrolled by the CFC, XdeathX is no more, Raiden had a relatively spectacular fall from grace....
We go and poke at the Goons, and they (much more rarely) come down and give us a visit, but there hasn't been any real serious business stuff (for us anyway) since we booted RA and Co the hell out of Detroid. |
baltec1
1402
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Posted - 2012.06.09 21:05:00 -
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Major Killz wrote:One alliance was going to be on top sooner or later. Game over. Time to press the restart button?
CFC is not the first superpower. |
adam smash
University of Caille Gallente Federation
99
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Posted - 2012.06.09 21:13:00 -
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Oh you know so little... test is blue with goons... thats 14,000 people about... + TONS of other blues...
Greed drives everything... in eve... blueing almost all of null gives you risk free isk... this covers greed... now you need fun cause all the money in the world is nice but you need "fun"
Fun now comes in the forum of being a bully to HS miners...
look at almost all wars... one of two ways they were won
MASSIVE money
Hit and run.
Well in eve... hit and run does not work, you can't keep hitting an area till you own it because of timers and the like... this leaves us with money
When you can throw tons and tons and tons of people at something... how do you lose?
cfc can lose the isk numbers in any fight... they are making so much passive isk... it does not matter.
Look at the cold war how did the USA win?
Out spent russia. |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2012.06.09 21:15:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:Pax Deltari wrote:All right. So they just don't have any ships? So they can't attack the north? They're talking to each other, not to you. In terms of appealing to null sec corps to go after Goonswarm, the null sec corps have their own agenda and don't really care about high sec. Nor should they. But sooner or later somebody will go after Goonswarm territory. Probably the Goons will still be here posting while their systems are in flames.
Actually, the other nullsec alliances did come after us, and then got curbstomped, and now are milking the sweet, sweet tech teat for all they can. |
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