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Par'Gellen
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Posted - 2004.10.27 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: Par'Gellen on 27/10/2004 11:41:00
If you are like me and there is no alternative to 56k dial-up in your area I have a tip for shortening those 10+ minute "GOT UNITS" login times.
After logging in the first time each day make a copy of these three files. Only copy them if the machoCachedMethodCalls5.dat and machoCachedObjects5.dat files are larger than 1k or this tip will not work. If they are only 1k then undock from the station and wait a few seconds until they are around 900k to 1.5M. The machoMethodCallCachingDetails5.dat is always 1k so don't worry about it but you still need to copy it.
<EVE Installation Folder>\cache\machoCachedMethodCalls5.dat
<EVE Installation Folder>\cache\machoCachedObjects5.dat
<EVE Installation Folder>\cache\machoMethodCallCachingDetails5.dat
Later that same day if you try to log in and it sits at "GOT UNITS" (anyone with dial-up knows what I'm talking about) just right click on the progress bar and close it. Close EVE completely. Copy the three files above back into the <EVE Installation Folder>\cache\ folder and launch the game again. This time it should blast right past the login and take you directly to your character selection screen instantly.
After each downtime you will have to log in normally and wait the 10 or so minutes at least once to get the new files but after that this tip works until the next downtime. Those of us with multiple accounts and dial-up should really find this helpful.
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"Guardian Of The Cheese" |
Par'Gellen
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Posted - 2004.10.27 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: Par'Gellen on 27/10/2004 11:41:00
If you are like me and there is no alternative to 56k dial-up in your area I have a tip for shortening those 10+ minute "GOT UNITS" login times.
After logging in the first time each day make a copy of these three files. Only copy them if the machoCachedMethodCalls5.dat and machoCachedObjects5.dat files are larger than 1k or this tip will not work. If they are only 1k then undock from the station and wait a few seconds until they are around 900k to 1.5M. The machoMethodCallCachingDetails5.dat is always 1k so don't worry about it but you still need to copy it.
<EVE Installation Folder>\cache\machoCachedMethodCalls5.dat
<EVE Installation Folder>\cache\machoCachedObjects5.dat
<EVE Installation Folder>\cache\machoMethodCallCachingDetails5.dat
Later that same day if you try to log in and it sits at "GOT UNITS" (anyone with dial-up knows what I'm talking about) just right click on the progress bar and close it. Close EVE completely. Copy the three files above back into the <EVE Installation Folder>\cache\ folder and launch the game again. This time it should blast right past the login and take you directly to your character selection screen instantly.
After each downtime you will have to log in normally and wait the 10 or so minutes at least once to get the new files but after that this tip works until the next downtime. Those of us with multiple accounts and dial-up should really find this helpful.
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"Guardian Of The Cheese" |
Juniper
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Posted - 2004.10.27 11:40:00 -
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Stickeh?
-- Gotta sell my stuff...
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Juniper
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Posted - 2004.10.27 11:40:00 -
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Stickeh?
-- Gotta sell my stuff...
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Arathian Evasion
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Posted - 2004.10.27 11:56:00 -
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woot?
so you have to copy each day after downtime..?
why not use 10 minuttes to log in instead of using 5-10 minuttes to copy those files each day.. it doesnt take long for me to log in, but if my eve took 10 minuttes i would go get something to drink take a ****, and get back.. instead of copy pasting.. dunno how it is for you guys, maybe its easier..
"Maybe your not interested in war, but war might be interested in you"
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Arathian Evasion
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Posted - 2004.10.27 11:56:00 -
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woot?
so you have to copy each day after downtime..?
why not use 10 minuttes to log in instead of using 5-10 minuttes to copy those files each day.. it doesnt take long for me to log in, but if my eve took 10 minuttes i would go get something to drink take a ****, and get back.. instead of copy pasting.. dunno how it is for you guys, maybe its easier..
"Maybe your not interested in war, but war might be interested in you"
I dont kill for fun, i kill because i need to!!! |
Par'Gellen
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Posted - 2004.10.27 12:05:00 -
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Edited by: Par'Gellen on 27/10/2004 12:10:34
Just for the record it takes me less than 15 seconds to copy and paste those files somewhere else. Putting them back takes even less time since I have a batch file that does it for me with a shortcut on the desktop. Restoring the files takes less than half a second. This to me is far more preferable than waiting 10 minutes to log in when I'm home for lunch or trying to log in a different account just to start a skill training.
10 minutes is quite a long time when you are just staring at the monitor waiting for something to happen.
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Par'Gellen
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Posted - 2004.10.27 12:05:00 -
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Edited by: Par'Gellen on 27/10/2004 12:10:34
Just for the record it takes me less than 15 seconds to copy and paste those files somewhere else. Putting them back takes even less time since I have a batch file that does it for me with a shortcut on the desktop. Restoring the files takes less than half a second. This to me is far more preferable than waiting 10 minutes to log in when I'm home for lunch or trying to log in a different account just to start a skill training.
10 minutes is quite a long time when you are just staring at the monitor waiting for something to happen.
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2004.10.27 12:37:00 -
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It can be a major pain loggin in on dialup ...
Thanks for the tip I'll give it a go
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2004.10.27 12:37:00 -
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It can be a major pain loggin in on dialup ...
Thanks for the tip I'll give it a go
BIG Lottery BIG Deal Damn Sig text length nurf |
Directive
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Posted - 2004.10.27 12:45:00 -
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It's a major pain to log in with 256k connection too, I've always wondered how long it takes with a dial-up... *shudder*
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Directive
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Posted - 2004.10.27 12:45:00 -
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It's a major pain to log in with 256k connection too, I've always wondered how long it takes with a dial-up... *shudder*
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Burga Galti
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Posted - 2004.10.27 13:07:00 -
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I remember staring at the screen for 20minutes one day before i gave up. Thank god for broadband at uni. Good tip there though.
Tales from the EVE Cluster |
Burga Galti
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Posted - 2004.10.27 13:07:00 -
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I remember staring at the screen for 20minutes one day before i gave up. Thank god for broadband at uni. Good tip there though.
Tales from the EVE Cluster |
Chee
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Posted - 2004.10.27 13:34:00 -
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definatly a good tip, but maybe sticky it under Known Issues & Workarounds?
seems a better place for it
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Chee
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Posted - 2004.10.27 13:34:00 -
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definatly a good tip, but maybe sticky it under Known Issues & Workarounds?
seems a better place for it
Its not enough to succeed. Others must fail. |
Cortex Reaver
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Posted - 2004.10.27 13:51:00 -
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 Originally by: Par'Gellen
Just for the record it takes me less than 15 seconds to copy and paste those files somewhere else. Putting them back takes even less time since I have a batch file that does it for me with a shortcut on the desktop.
Why don't you script all of it?
But on another note. . . you've found an ugly hack to get around it, but it's a sure bet that something's gonna break. The game downloads what it does for a reason. I feel for you if you're stuck on dial-up; I really do, but instead of staring at your monitor seething for 10 minutes (which I'm sure is an exaggeration), start the game and walk off and fetch a snack or a drink.
-CR
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Cortex Reaver
crtxreavr at trioptimum dot com
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759
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Cortex Reaver
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Posted - 2004.10.27 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Par'Gellen
Just for the record it takes me less than 15 seconds to copy and paste those files somewhere else. Putting them back takes even less time since I have a batch file that does it for me with a shortcut on the desktop.
Why don't you script all of it?
But on another note. . . you've found an ugly hack to get around it, but it's a sure bet that something's gonna break. The game downloads what it does for a reason. I feel for you if you're stuck on dial-up; I really do, but instead of staring at your monitor seething for 10 minutes (which I'm sure is an exaggeration), start the game and walk off and fetch a snack or a drink.
-CR
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Cortex Reaver
crtxreavr at trioptimum dot com
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759
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Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2004.10.27 13:58:00 -
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I find it hard to believe we would be forced to download these everyday if the old ones were perfectly adequate. I think I'd rather go make a cup of tea than risk missing something vital.
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Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2004.10.27 13:58:00 -
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I find it hard to believe we would be forced to download these everyday if the old ones were perfectly adequate. I think I'd rather go make a cup of tea than risk missing something vital.
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Surefoot
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Posted - 2004.10.27 15:00:00 -
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10 min log in times? Yeesh. I've always logged on in seconds, not minutes.
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Surefoot
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Posted - 2004.10.27 15:00:00 -
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10 min log in times? Yeesh. I've always logged on in seconds, not minutes.
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.10.27 16:17:00 -
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<------------ 56k modem --------------.
What do these files achieve and why are the getting patched every new day?
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Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies |
Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.10.27 16:17:00 -
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<------------ 56k modem --------------.
What do these files achieve and why are the getting patched every new day?
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Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies |
Monty Burns
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Posted - 2004.10.27 16:21:00 -
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Hi Guys
another tip:
Just in case you did not realise it the more you have in your buddies list the longer it takes to log in. I have over 1000 in my buddies (for a very good tactical reason) and even on my 3meg link it takes me around 10 minutes. So, you might want to get rid of "spare" address book contacts 
Be lucky!
Darwin 4tw
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Monty Burns
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Posted - 2004.10.27 16:21:00 -
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Hi Guys
another tip:
Just in case you did not realise it the more you have in your buddies list the longer it takes to log in. I have over 1000 in my buddies (for a very good tactical reason) and even on my 3meg link it takes me around 10 minutes. So, you might want to get rid of "spare" address book contacts
Be lucky!
Darwin 4tw
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Par'Gellen
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Posted - 2004.10.27 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Cortex Reaver
Originally by: Par'Gellen
Just for the record it takes me less than 15 seconds to copy and paste those files somewhere else. Putting them back takes even less time since I have a batch file that does it for me with a shortcut on the desktop.
Why don't you script all of it?
But on another note. . . you've found an ugly hack to get around it, but it's a sure bet that something's gonna break. The game downloads what it does for a reason. I feel for you if you're stuck on dial-up; I really do, but instead of staring at your monitor seething for 10 minutes (which I'm sure is an exaggeration), start the game and walk off and fetch a snack or a drink.
-CR
I only wish it were an exaggeration. As a test I just logged in without copying the files on a alt account and it took exactly 11 minutes and 32 seconds. I don't know what is in these .dat files but I've been using this trick for about 6 months now and it works fine on all of my accounts.
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Par'Gellen
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Posted - 2004.10.27 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Cortex Reaver
Originally by: Par'Gellen
Just for the record it takes me less than 15 seconds to copy and paste those files somewhere else. Putting them back takes even less time since I have a batch file that does it for me with a shortcut on the desktop.
Why don't you script all of it?
But on another note. . . you've found an ugly hack to get around it, but it's a sure bet that something's gonna break. The game downloads what it does for a reason. I feel for you if you're stuck on dial-up; I really do, but instead of staring at your monitor seething for 10 minutes (which I'm sure is an exaggeration), start the game and walk off and fetch a snack or a drink.
-CR
I only wish it were an exaggeration. As a test I just logged in without copying the files on a alt account and it took exactly 11 minutes and 32 seconds. I don't know what is in these .dat files but I've been using this trick for about 6 months now and it works fine on all of my accounts.
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"Guardian Of The Cheese" |
Cortex Reaver
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Posted - 2004.10.27 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Monty Burns
Hi Guys
another tip:
Just in case you did not realise it the more you have in your buddies list the longer it takes to log in. I have over 1000 in my buddies (for a very good tactical reason) and even on my 3meg link it takes me around 10 minutes. So, you might want to get rid of "spare" address book contacts
It's the same thing with bookmarks.
-CR
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Cortex Reaver
crtxreavr at trioptimum dot com
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759
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Cortex Reaver
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Posted - 2004.10.27 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Monty Burns
Hi Guys
another tip:
Just in case you did not realise it the more you have in your buddies list the longer it takes to log in. I have over 1000 in my buddies (for a very good tactical reason) and even on my 3meg link it takes me around 10 minutes. So, you might want to get rid of "spare" address book contacts
It's the same thing with bookmarks.
-CR
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Cortex Reaver
crtxreavr at trioptimum dot com
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759
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Par'Gellen
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Posted - 2004.10.29 16:45:00 -
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Thanks for the tips about bookmarks and buddies. I cleaned out most of the junk in my lists and it seems to have sped up logging in by about a minute or so. I had a lot of trash in there. It still takes around 7 to 8 minutes to log in though.
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Par'Gellen
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Posted - 2004.10.29 16:45:00 -
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Thanks for the tips about bookmarks and buddies. I cleaned out most of the junk in my lists and it seems to have sped up logging in by about a minute or so. I had a lot of trash in there. It still takes around 7 to 8 minutes to log in though.
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rowbin hod
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Posted - 2004.10.30 11:53:00 -
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Per'Gellen - can I kiss you??? 
only got 28k dial-up here, and logging in can be a real pita. 
Running even 2 clients though is no problem once logged in (Just remember to switch the sound off). Hats off to CCP for keeping the overheads down.
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"Due to the European lard shortage, we are currently unable to supply this product." |
rowbin hod
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Posted - 2004.10.30 11:53:00 -
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Per'Gellen - can I kiss you???
only got 28k dial-up here, and logging in can be a real pita.
Running even 2 clients though is no problem once logged in (Just remember to switch the sound off). Hats off to CCP for keeping the overheads down.
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"Due to the European lard shortage, we are currently unable to supply this product." |
Par'Gellen
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Posted - 2004.10.31 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: rowbin hod
Per'Gellen - can I kiss you???
only got 28k dial-up here, and logging in can be a real pita.
Running even 2 clients though is no problem once logged in (Just remember to switch the sound off). Hats off to CCP for keeping the overheads down.
Might have trouble with the wifey on that one. She tends to frown upon such things... LOL
It really amazes me how well the game runs even on a dial-up connection. The devs really did that extremely well. I've hosted LAN parties at my house with friends and had up to 5 accounts running at once on a shared 33.6k dial-up connection with virtually no lag related problems. My old ISP used to even disconnected me for inactivity sometimes while I was mining HA!
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Par'Gellen
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Posted - 2004.10.31 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: rowbin hod
Per'Gellen - can I kiss you???
only got 28k dial-up here, and logging in can be a real pita.
Running even 2 clients though is no problem once logged in (Just remember to switch the sound off). Hats off to CCP for keeping the overheads down.
Might have trouble with the wifey on that one. She tends to frown upon such things... LOL
It really amazes me how well the game runs even on a dial-up connection. The devs really did that extremely well. I've hosted LAN parties at my house with friends and had up to 5 accounts running at once on a shared 33.6k dial-up connection with virtually no lag related problems. My old ISP used to even disconnected me for inactivity sometimes while I was mining HA!
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Dalmont Delantee
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Posted - 2004.10.31 14:24:00 -
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28K??? Are those things still in working order?
Come we must help those poor people without a decent connection.. How about free Cyanide capsules?
Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons |
Dalmont Delantee
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Posted - 2004.10.31 14:24:00 -
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28K??? Are those things still in working order?
Come we must help those poor people without a decent connection.. How about free Cyanide capsules?
Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons |
IZON
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Posted - 2004.10.31 16:15:00 -
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bump 
"...master! there's a guy in the south village called IZON, he is a Ninja!" |
IZON
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Posted - 2004.10.31 16:15:00 -
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bump
"...master! there's a guy in the south village called IZON, he is a Ninja!" |
veloras cain
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Posted - 2004.11.01 11:39:00 -
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what does it matter its only slow for the first time u login on the first account that you login after DT. Well thats what its like for me.
Word of advice dont run 3 accounts at once using 1 PC its a pain in the arse
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veloras cain
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Posted - 2004.11.01 11:39:00 -
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what does it matter its only slow for the first time u login on the first account that you login after DT. Well thats what its like for me.
Word of advice dont run 3 accounts at once using 1 PC its a pain in the arse
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Par'Gellen
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Posted - 2004.11.01 12:54:00 -
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Edited by: Par'Gellen on 01/11/2004 13:01:11
Originally by: veloras cain
what does it matter its only slow for the first time u login on the first account that you login after DT. Well thats what its like for me.
Word of advice dont run 3 accounts at once using 1 PC its a pain in the arse
I see some don't understand what is happening. I have no trouble running multiple accounts on the same PC (as long as I disable my sound card before attempting it). That's not the issue. I'll explain a little better with highlights.
I have more than one account. I can't run them all out of the same installation directory or I get blue screens of death. Therefore I have to run them out of seperate directories which works very well. Each account has to download the .dat files the first time it logs in after DT. On a 33.6k connection this is pretty much all you do while this is happening. Can't browse the web, can't even check email. This takes roughly 8-10 minutes per account depending on various factors that I have no control over. Multiply this by the number of accounts and it becomes a very long time just to log into the game.
Now this wouldn't be so bad if it only happened once a day. Alas, such is not the case. For some reason sometimes an account will lose it's .dat files for reasons I can't discern. It usually happens after I get disconnected (yes 33.6k sucks so bad it should be illegal). Hence the tip. If this happens I just copy the .dat files from the backup location back into the cache folder of the account that lost theirs and I'm back in business.
Also, by making a backup of the .dat files after one account logs in after DT I can copy them over to the other account directories and then those accounts can log in immediately.
And before anyone starts yelling about it:
I can't get DSL here.
I can't get Cable here.
I can't get Wireless here.
I can't even get Satelite here (even if I wanted it's horrible latency). To many trees.
I hope this clears up any confusion.
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Par'Gellen
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Posted - 2004.11.01 12:54:00 -
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Edited by: Par'Gellen on 01/11/2004 13:01:11
Originally by: veloras cain
what does it matter its only slow for the first time u login on the first account that you login after DT. Well thats what its like for me.
Word of advice dont run 3 accounts at once using 1 PC its a pain in the arse
I see some don't understand what is happening. I have no trouble running multiple accounts on the same PC (as long as I disable my sound card before attempting it). That's not the issue. I'll explain a little better with highlights.
I have more than one account. I can't run them all out of the same installation directory or I get blue screens of death. Therefore I have to run them out of seperate directories which works very well. Each account has to download the .dat files the first time it logs in after DT. On a 33.6k connection this is pretty much all you do while this is happening. Can't browse the web, can't even check email. This takes roughly 8-10 minutes per account depending on various factors that I have no control over. Multiply this by the number of accounts and it becomes a very long time just to log into the game.
Now this wouldn't be so bad if it only happened once a day. Alas, such is not the case. For some reason sometimes an account will lose it's .dat files for reasons I can't discern. It usually happens after I get disconnected (yes 33.6k sucks so bad it should be illegal). Hence the tip. If this happens I just copy the .dat files from the backup location back into the cache folder of the account that lost theirs and I'm back in business.
Also, by making a backup of the .dat files after one account logs in after DT I can copy them over to the other account directories and then those accounts can log in immediately.
And before anyone starts yelling about it:
I can't get DSL here.
I can't get Cable here.
I can't get Wireless here.
I can't even get Satelite here (even if I wanted it's horrible latency). To many trees.
I hope this clears up any confusion.
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