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Iniquita
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
75
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Posted - 2012.06.10 23:24:00 -
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What have they done to the vagabond 
I want the little wings back |
Gevlin
Universal Might
DSM FOUNDATION
152
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Posted - 2012.06.11 02:08:00 -
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I have a sneaky suspition that CCP is saving the rust textures for the next store!
Rust now costs extra on minmitar ships.....lol
The Goons are Coming, The Goons are Coming
Jita the April 28, Hulk a geddon April 29 for a month.
The Best Tears are the Geifer's Tears.
just hope the new crime watch system is in place by then.... oh the chaos will rain!!! |
bassie12bf1
Militaris Industries
Cascade Imminent
26
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Posted - 2012.06.11 07:44:00 -
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Iniquita wrote:What have they done to the vagabond I want the little wings back
Vaga lost its ears  |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
840
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Posted - 2012.06.11 10:31:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Logan LaMort wrote:I have a feeling they're still wip, they seem to lack something... a shader maybe. ^^ This!! 
Tease ;_;
Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 sales Xbox 360: 2.2 million PlayStation 3: 1.5 million PC: 500,000http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |
dethleffs
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
44
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Posted - 2012.06.11 12:39:00 -
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vaga lost its flappy ears, and so did the fairy wings of my beloved rapier! booohoohoohoo!! |
Sovai Elaaren
KABS Deep Recon Unit
25
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Posted - 2012.06.11 13:19:00 -
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bassie12bf1 wrote:Iniquita wrote:What have they done to the vagabond I want the little wings back Vaga lost its ears
With the v3ing of the other races I noticed that certain t2 bits from the models were missing earlier but were slowly added in. I'm hoping that it's the same with the vaga and that they'll be back before deployment to tranq.
I love the paint jobs of the t2 ships, I think they're the best looking ships in the game now.
I hope some of the t1 hulls get some additional love though as they seem to be missing something. I love the rusty look of the thrusters on the warrior drones and wish that there was something a little more like that for the t1 hulls. It actually looks like rusting metal instead of brown metal. |
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CCP Huskarl
C C P
C C P Alliance
21
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Posted - 2012.06.11 14:14:00 -
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Hey Rust lovers
I just wanted to let you know that I agree with those of you who think that the new Minmatar color looks too "tan" and not the nice deep rust tone that most of us like. We can however not fix this before Inferno 1.1
The color of the ships is done mostly in our engine .This give us more options and control over variations but it also tends make colors a little more monotone. We are aware of this and looking into ways to improve on it |
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
664
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Posted - 2012.06.11 14:16:00 -
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CCP Huskarl wrote:Hey Rust lovers
I just wanted to let you know that I agree with those of you who think that the new Minmatar color looks too "tan" and not the nice deep rust tone that most of us like. We can however not fix this before Inferno 1.1
The color of the ships is done mostly in our engine .This give us more options and control over variations but it also tends make colors a little more monotone. We are aware of this and looking into ways to improve on it
I do enjoy shooting rustbuckets, so by all means, look into this.
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Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
667
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Posted - 2012.06.11 16:10:00 -
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CCP Huskarl wrote:Hey Rust lovers
I just wanted to let you know that I agree with those of you who think that the new Minmatar color looks too "tan" and not the nice deep rust tone that most of us like. We can however not fix this before Inferno 1.1
The color of the ships is done mostly in our engine .This give us more options and control over variations but it also tends make colors a little more monotone. We are aware of this and looking into ways to improve on it
Thanks for the info!
A bit unfortunate you can't do it before 1.1, but I'll anxiously await our new Rustiness!
I think the Core Complexion black is cool, but as some others have said, maybe it needs a little but more definition? Instead of silver, some Black with red highlights would stand out!
Great job again, and I'm gonna be excited to be flying these awesome new ships soon. :)
Mimidae Risk Solutions Recruiting |
Zeidaks
Prancing Ponies
TOHA Conglomerate
0
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Posted - 2012.06.11 16:42:00 -
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Awesome job with some of the T2:s. Love the new Jaguar and Wolf. Less awesome job on some of the others, like the Vagabond...
BUT, you seriously need to fix the colour on the T1 ships. Most of them look plain horrible. The colour is like coffee with milk. It needs to be rust. I actually thought the new v3 models weren't done on those ships because they look so... bland. And I'm running EVE will all graphics settings maxed out.
BRING BACK THE RUST! 
A graphics update should make the ships look more awesome, not more BLAND. |
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
274
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Posted - 2012.06.11 17:34:00 -
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CCP Huskarl wrote:Hey Rust lovers
I just wanted to let you know that I agree with those of you who think that the new Minmatar color looks too "tan" and not the nice deep rust tone that most of us like. We can however not fix this before Inferno 1.1
The color of the ships is done mostly in our engine .This give us more options and control over variations but it also tends make colors a little more monotone. We are aware of this and looking into ways to improve on it
I'm going to assume (possibly incorrectly) that you're part of the group doing the V3ing of ships - if so, could you please explain why the Amarr and Minmatar T2 ships departed from the scheme used by the Gallente and Caldari T2 ships?
Caldari and Gallente T2 ships are colored and marked by the R&D corporation that invented the original (Ishukone, Kaalakiota, and Lai Dai for Caldari; CreoDron, DuVolle and Roden for Gallente), but the Amarrian and Minmatar T2 ships use other entities instead - Sarum and Ardishapur Families instead of Carthum and Viziam for the Amarr, and Brutor and Sebiestor Tribes instead of Boundless Creatiion and Core Complexion for the Minmatar.
What gives? |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
843
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Posted - 2012.06.11 18:21:00 -
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But rust is a texture not a color :( aren't you going to ad rust patches ?
Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 sales Xbox 360: 2.2 million PlayStation 3: 1.5 million PC: 500,000http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |
Ravcharas
GREY COUNCIL
Nulli Secunda
167
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:01:00 -
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Space camo :( |
Alice Katsuko
Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing
132
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:01:00 -
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Why not simply wait until you make the Minmatar textures look the way they're supposed to, instead of shoving out an unfinished release? And it will be an unfinished release, as you've admitted, since the ships will not look the way they are supposed to by your own standards. I
As well, if you're going to change the ship manufacturers, at least be consistent about it and also change the descriptions to match the new paint. |
Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
290
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:11:00 -
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Vaga needs its dragon ears back.
Angel ships still need to be v3'ed.
The Core Complexion shaders need to be tweaked a bit. I like the black / bluepurple colors but most of the time it makes the hulls look like silhouettes, which is kind of unfortunate. Maybe a nice titanium grey would be better? Personally I think Ti grey with lighter grey accents and blue-white (or maybe orange-white) lights would look bad ass. |
Myrkala
Missions Mining and Mayhem
Northern Coalition.
9
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:31:00 -
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Ganthrithor wrote:Vaga needs its dragon ears back.
Angel ships still need to be v3'ed.
The Core Complexion shaders need to be tweaked a bit. I like the black / bluepurple colors but most of the time it makes the hulls look like silhouettes, which is kind of unfortunate. Maybe a nice titanium grey would be better? Personally I think Ti grey with lighter grey accents and blue-white (or maybe orange-white) lights would look bad ass.
Vagabonds dragon ears must come back!
http://imgs.mi9.com/uploads/game/4499/eve-online_1600x1200_79045.jpg
Also I am not so sure about the black textures with the blue, they remind me too much of Khanid... |
Aaron Barton
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:33:00 -
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Morwen Lagann wrote:CCP Huskarl wrote:Hey Rust lovers
I just wanted to let you know that I agree with those of you who think that the new Minmatar color looks too "tan" and not the nice deep rust tone that most of us like. We can however not fix this before Inferno 1.1
The color of the ships is done mostly in our engine .This give us more options and control over variations but it also tends make colors a little more monotone. We are aware of this and looking into ways to improve on it I'm going to assume (possibly incorrectly) that you're part of the group doing the V3ing of ships - if so, could you please explain why the Amarr and Minmatar T2 ships departed from the scheme used by the Gallente and Caldari T2 ships? Caldari and Gallente T2 ships are colored and marked by the R&D corporation that invented the original (Ishukone, Kaalakiota, and Lai Dai for Caldari; CreoDron, DuVolle and Roden for Gallente), but the Amarrian and Minmatar T2 ships use other entities instead - Sarum and Ardishapur Families instead of Carthum and Viziam for the Amarr, and Brutor and Sebiestor Tribes instead of Boundless Creatiion and Core Complexion for the Minmatar. What gives?
I've noticed this too. And I'm still kinda wavering if I like this different scheme.
But from a lore perspective, it makes a good bit of sense. A very basic social organizational unit for the Caldari is the corporation so it would make sense that the T2 ships reflect this. With the Amarr, you have the holders and their houses. I've read that House Sarum is the patron of Carthum Conglomerate and House Ardishapur is the patron of Viziam. And the Khanid Kingdom for Khanid Innovation. With the Minmatar, you have the tribe. And similar to the Amarr, a tribe is associated with a corporation. It's not so clear-cut with the Gallente, but since theirs is a capitalistic society - and not feudal like the Amarr or tribal like the Minmatar - it makes more sense they follow the Caldari in the T2 scheme.
But the Quantum Rise trailer throws a kink into the mix. The Amarr ships were of House Kador. While I realize the trailer was made before the introduction of logos, the pics from CCP of different Amarr ships with different logos and matching color schemes makes me think that were the Quantum Rise trailer made today, the Amarr ships in it would sport the Kador logo and have the Kador color scheme.
Now, as far as I could tell, all the Amarr ships in the trailer were T1. And given CCP's plans/hopes for different ship skins, we might have a situation of conflicting/incompatible ship skins. T1, T2, house. Right now, the T2 and house are the same. But lore wise, not every house ship is a T2 ship while every T2 ship is a house ship. What if a player wants a Sarum ship skin but not a Carthum Conglomerate one? A Carthum ship skin but not a Sarum? Or a Kor-Azor ship skin, that doesn't have an associated T2 ship skin? To those interested in role playing - or just playing a bit with the lore - via ship skins, their options are reduced with the Amarr and the Minmatar. They'll have every T2 ship skin available but not a distinct ship skin for some houses and tribes.
On the one hand, I can understand a corporation's pride in a patron or associate such that it'll sport the corresponding logo and color scheme. But on the other hand, player choice is potentially reduced. So I'm still iffy on the subject. All I ask is that CCP is aware of this and gives it due consideration.
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
2443
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:39:00 -
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Alice Katsuko wrote:Why not simply wait until you make the Minmatar textures look the way they're supposed to, instead of shoving out an unfinished release? And it will be an unfinished release, as you've admitted, since the ships will not look the way they are supposed to by your own standards.
You understand this is coming from the test server right? Like the place where unfinished releases are supposed to go while CCP is working on them and testing them out?
Patience, grasshopper. If they can't test out unfinished stuff in an area where players can access it they might as well not have a test server at all. 
Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
2443
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:44:00 -
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Myrkala wrote:
Vagabonds dragon ears must come back!
The people have spoken! And so have I as your CSM representative. I've already posted on the internal forums demanding the return of the "dragon ears", and even linked them a reference image.
THAT is what a true bullet-spitting monster should look like. 
Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Aaron Barton
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:45:00 -
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Ganthrithor wrote:Vaga needs its dragon ears back.
Angel ships still need to be v3'ed.
The Core Complexion shaders need to be tweaked a bit. I like the black / bluepurple colors but most of the time it makes the hulls look like silhouettes, which is kind of unfortunate. Maybe a nice titanium grey would be better? Personally I think Ti grey with lighter grey accents and blue-white (or maybe orange-white) lights would look bad ass.
Might get flayed alive for this, but if the Vagabond does get its dragon ears back, they should be changed to the rectangular ones the other Thukker Mix ships.
Or just make all the Thukker Mix ships Boundless Creation and vice versa and match up the solar panels. |
Orakkus
The Fancy Hats Corporation
34
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Posted - 2012.06.11 23:38:00 -
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Nm, saw Hans' response |
Aldeb Haraz
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
1
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Posted - 2012.06.12 04:44:00 -
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Can we please get the badass green engines back on the Huginn? I always loved flying the ship (even when it dies instantly) just because of the super-cool engine trails it left behind it. Also, a minor detail but I also liked the old rectangular sails on the Tempest Fleet Issue. I feel it gave the ship a sort of unique feel that made it a lot neater to fly and easier to pick out in a crowd than a simple camo change like the other faction ships.
Speaking in reference to the lightening of ALL V3 textures in the latest SiSi patch, I would like to give some feedback. Some races/corporations really needed this (guardian, claymore, eos for example), but in some cases I feel like it missed the mark. For example, the minmatar t1 skins now look even more washed out than before and other ships like the cerberus, falcon, vengeance, and manticore are simply worse than pre-patch. It seems to me that the colors that were already in the mid to light color range suffered from the change just because the REALLY dark ones needed a little more light. |
Klingon Admiral
Black Hole Cluster
11
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Posted - 2012.06.12 13:56:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:The people have spoken! And so have I as your CSM representative. I've already posted on the internal forums demanding the return of the "dragon ears", and even linked them a reference image.
Somewhere, a palaentologist is crying.
But the Vagabond needs dragon ears! |
bassie12bf1
Militaris Industries
Cascade Imminent
27
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Posted - 2012.06.12 14:03:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Myrkala wrote:
Vagabonds dragon ears must come back!
The people have spoken! And so have I as your CSM representative. I've already posted on the internal forums demanding the return of the "dragon ears", and even linked them a reference image. THAT is what a true bullet-spitting monster should look like.
Now convince them to give it red glowing eyes in the process
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Jack Jomar
SoulShroud Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.06.12 14:50:00 -
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I've got to say, I really liked those squared off panels on the navy 'pest.
Also - what have you done to the "neck"?
You know, that bit that runs to the cockpit?
It looks like it's been removed and replaced with gantries, rather than the hallways we had before.
Especially concerning, since it's a well used corridor in Clear Skies. |
ArmyOfMe
Omniscient Order
78
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Posted - 2012.06.12 16:46:00 -
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Dont you dare ruin the vaga like that.
Give us back ze dragon
ArmyOfMe > i swear my drones have become even more stupid after the patch
Wanna Kill > as usually im way ahead of you, my drones have been drooling idiots for ages |
James Q Farpoint
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.12 18:36:00 -
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Gallente T1 skins: Definitely too bright now.
Minmatar T1 skins: I don't know... Some of them look really good (I like the Rifter and Rupture), others look kind of weird. Perhaps one can get used to it once one gets accustomed to the thought that it's not actually rusty metal but some kind of grungy armor material. Although I must say that the new Minnie T1 color is dangerously close to the look of Amarr Armor. Perhaps using that new brighter colour more sparingly could be a solution. Break it up with darker parts (like with the Rifter and Rupture) So it doesn't look too clean (like the Thrasher and Scythe).
The Scythe definitely looks too clean. The skin needs more details.
Space camo is bad! Don't make more camo ships. Or at least make it some camo that actually works. Like red camo on Minnie ships because Minmatar space is red. Now it doesn't make any sense. +1 to the idea of having some kind of hastely slapped on warpaint on Minmatar T2 ships. |
PinkKnife
The Scope
Gallente Federation
115
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Posted - 2012.06.12 18:54:00 -
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James Q Farpoint wrote:Gallente T1 skins: Definitely too bright now.
I haven't checked those yet, but god damnit, I already can sense the overcompensation from all the whiners complaining that the amarr ships were too dark because they only looked at them in the preview window. |
Nagarythe Tinurandir
Catholic School for Boys
Dark Legion Alliance
19
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Posted - 2012.06.12 22:16:00 -
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overall i have to say i like what i see, its a good start.
i really like the new prowler. still looks like minmatar, but that former horrible middle section is now with detail. great work!
the industrials in general look really good.
as already mentioned some ships (thrasher, cane,..) look to clean now.
but:
the texture glitch under the tempest cockpits (and all its variants) is still there. filed a bug report.
when you are working on texture and shader stuff why not fix that too?
moreover the texture of the tempest "necks" (again, all other tempest ships have also this issue) is very. very low res. same is true for the polygone count of that region. i guess the bad texture aplifies the missing detail?
the main body is fine and looks really nice.
and for the rifter; 139m ? really? that would be twice as long as the punisher. i can't even find my guns on that giant.
i had to look overly concentrated. they just look silly now. having the big guns was part of the charme. please dont do that.
make it maybe 93m?
i mean, the signature radius of a rifter is around 37m ish?
the textures of rifter, jaguar and wolf are just badass to infinity. good job there ;D |
Sovai Elaaren
KABS Deep Recon Unit
25
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Posted - 2012.06.12 22:54:00 -
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James Q Farpoint wrote:Space camo is bad! Don't make more camo ships. Or at least make it some camo that actually works. Like red camo on Minnie ships because Minmatar space is red. Now it doesn't make any sense. +1 to the idea of having some kind of hastely slapped on warpaint on Minmatar T2 ships.
I don't think the intent of a camo paint job on a spaceship is to hide it in space. It's an identifier, corp colors, nothing more.
I'll chime in and say that I also think some of the ships have been made too bright (i.e. Gallente/Caldari hulls). |
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