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Yabba Addict
Legion of the Many
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Posted - 2012.06.09 18:55:00 -
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Sisohiv wrote:Jayrendo Karr wrote:The moment textures hit space via the NeX, is the same moment i unsub. Every company has gone down the p2w or pay to advance faster slope(with a few incredibly rare exceptions), CCP won't be different. I LoL'ed at the guy ignoring Plex for 9 years
This? Again? Really?
1. Plex hasn't been around for nine years, more like 3-4
2. P2W is a completely different system, where the game is free while offering what EvE residents have come to call 'Gold Ammo' for cash, giving you an unfair advantage.
3. I can make any isk i could've bought with plex in any number of ways, all I need to do is put in the hours. P2W, as mentioned above, means no matter how long I grind, I'll be at a disadvantage.
TLDR? Plex isn't P2W, it's pay to save me time, which makes sense considering the game is aimed at an adult playerbase, many of which have jobs, family, and responsibilities. |
Uinuva Karma
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2012.06.09 18:59:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Sisohiv wrote:Jayrendo Karr wrote:The moment textures hit space via the NeX, is the same moment i unsub. Every company has gone down the p2w or pay to advance faster slope(with a few incredibly rare exceptions), CCP won't be different. I LoL'ed at the guy ignoring Plex for 9 years I wonder, how does PLEX give you anything that isn't achievable through gameplay, again?
I wonder, how does AURUM give you anything that isn't achievable through gameplay, again?
Captain Kirk didn't stay in hisec.-á
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Acot Voth
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.06.09 19:00:00 -
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Without some kind of hub/bar/place to meet other avatars it has almost no purpose but I don't think CCP realize that if they added a hub they would get sales and a large amount of players that log on just to hang out in the hub, Cantinas for everyone! |
Disregard That
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
102
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Posted - 2012.06.09 19:01:00 -
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Jayrendo Karr wrote:The moment textures hit space via the NeX, is the same moment i unsub. Every company has gone down the p2w or pay to advance faster slope(with a few incredibly rare exceptions), CCP won't be different. Because textures are clearly p2w and faster advancement rolled into one non-functional package.
Also, Plex. And before that, GTCs were directly available by ISK.
So you're a little late on the p2w tip, kiddo. |
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Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.09 19:02:00 -
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Acot Voth wrote:Without some kind of hub/bar/place to meet other avatars it has almost no purpose but I don't think CCP realize that if they added a hub they would get sales and a large amount of players that log on just to hang out in the hub, Cantinas for everyone! Just what CCP needs: Bandwidth being taken up by players who aren't even playing the game.
In larger numbers than what already happens.
The number of players online means nothing if we can't shoot most of them and they aren't buying spaceships. |
Viktor Goldheart
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2012.06.09 19:07:00 -
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Suvari Khashour wrote:Lady Bloodsucker wrote:It has been a very long time since I have seen any new stuff on the Nobel Exchange. Is it completely dead. Is there any news about the Nobel Exchange or ?. On the market I see a lot of different clothing in many different colours. When is all this apparel going so be available. i think i can count on one hand the number of times i've even looked at that since it was introduced....
Sure feels like it.
And yeah, I agree. |
Disregard That
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
102
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Posted - 2012.06.09 19:08:00 -
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Lady Bloodsucker wrote:It has been a very long time since I have seen any new stuff on the Nobel Exchange. Is it completely dead. Is there any news about the Nobel Exchange or ?. On the market I see a lot of different clothing in many different colours. When is all this apparel going so be available. Donkeys are useful. The Noble Exchange is a dead cockroach. |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
110
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Posted - 2012.06.09 19:57:00 -
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Acot Voth wrote:Without some kind of hub/bar/place to meet other avatars it has almost no purpose but I don't think CCP realize that if they added a hub they would get sales and a large amount of players that log on just to hang out in the hub, Cantinas for everyone!
I agree. The problem with Incarna was its complete and utter uselessness. Giving us avatars but no way to interact. Ha, ha! And starting with the most depressing looking CQ on top of it.
Anyway, common rooms should not be that hard to implement. Though I wonder how they will look like in Jita. Perhaps a queue!? And corp/alliance separees. Perhaps a War Room where the managers can be important and show off their NEX clothes along with live feed to the regular corp-grunts-¦ CQ. Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. |
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Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
109
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Posted - 2012.06.09 19:58:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:Acot Voth wrote:Without some kind of hub/bar/place to meet other avatars it has almost no purpose but I don't think CCP realize that if they added a hub they would get sales and a large amount of players that log on just to hang out in the hub, Cantinas for everyone! I agree. The problem with Incarna was its complete and utter uselessness. Giving us avatars but no way to interact. Ha, ha! And starting with the most depressing looking CQ on top of it. Anyway, common rooms should not be that hard to implement. Though I wonder how they will look like in Jita. Perhaps a queue!? And corp/alliance separees. Perhaps an offical-looking meeting room where the managers can be important and show off their NEX clothes along with live feed to the regular corp-grunts-¦ CQ. Because that sounds like incredibly useful content... |
Moonasha
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
72
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Posted - 2012.06.09 19:59:00 -
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AUR was a mistake period, and I hope CCP takes it out eventually. Noble Exchange is fine, but the **** should cost isk. As it is, it alienates too much of the playerbase. Pay to play while you play to play.... |
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Uinuva Karma
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.09 20:00:00 -
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Disregard That wrote:Because that sounds like incredibly useful content...
Well you have to admit that it beats grinding L4s.
Captain Kirk didn't stay in hisec.-á
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
219
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Posted - 2012.06.09 20:03:00 -
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Working as intended. Released half finished to be abandoned for years just like any CCP feature. |
Disregard That
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
109
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Posted - 2012.06.09 20:04:00 -
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Uinuva Karma wrote:Disregard That wrote:Because that sounds like incredibly useful content... Well you have to admit that it beats grinding L4s. At least grinding L4's you have the remote chance for PVP interactions.
In the station? Not so much.
We don't need a PCU full of Barbieworld fanatics. That's my 2 ISK. |
Uinuva Karma
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
42
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Posted - 2012.06.09 20:11:00 -
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I hear you.
However, the cancer is already here and can't be cured, so why not give the bears something to shut them up even for a short while?
Captain Kirk didn't stay in hisec.-á
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Disregard That
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
110
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Posted - 2012.06.09 20:13:00 -
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Uinuva Karma wrote:I hear you.
However, the cancer is already here and can't be cured, so why not give the bears something to shut them up even for a short while?
Because it will hurt CCP's bottom line in the end. Those people would be taking up connection sockets that actual players could be connecting to - and enriching Eve.
I do not see any benefit coming from this development that would not be far outstripped by developing Flying In Space content instead.
Unless CCP can come up with some very compelling reasons for us to interact in stations... |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
110
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Posted - 2012.06.09 20:19:00 -
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Disregard That wrote:Nerath Naaris wrote:Acot Voth wrote:Without some kind of hub/bar/place to meet other avatars it has almost no purpose but I don't think CCP realize that if they added a hub they would get sales and a large amount of players that log on just to hang out in the hub, Cantinas for everyone! I agree. The problem with Incarna was its complete and utter uselessness. Giving us avatars but no way to interact. Ha, ha! And starting with the most depressing looking CQ on top of it. Anyway, common rooms should not be that hard to implement. Though I wonder how they will look like in Jita. Perhaps a queue!? And corp/alliance separees. Perhaps an offical-looking meeting room where the managers can be important and show off their NEX clothes along with live feed to the regular corp-grunts-¦ CQ. Because that sounds like incredibly useful content...
More socializing certainly isn-¦t wrong in a MMO.
WiS is there, so why not finish it by giving it a purpose (a possibility to meet/show off your avatar)? That does not mean that the spaceship aspect becomes irrelevant or that CCP should not concentrate on in spaceships. Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. |
Disregard That
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
110
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Posted - 2012.06.09 20:26:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:Disregard That wrote:Nerath Naaris wrote:Acot Voth wrote:Without some kind of hub/bar/place to meet other avatars it has almost no purpose but I don't think CCP realize that if they added a hub they would get sales and a large amount of players that log on just to hang out in the hub, Cantinas for everyone! I agree. The problem with Incarna was its complete and utter uselessness. Giving us avatars but no way to interact. Ha, ha! And starting with the most depressing looking CQ on top of it. Anyway, common rooms should not be that hard to implement. Though I wonder how they will look like in Jita. Perhaps a queue!? And corp/alliance separees. Perhaps an offical-looking meeting room where the managers can be important and show off their NEX clothes along with live feed to the regular corp-grunts-¦ CQ. Because that sounds like incredibly useful content... More socializing certainly isn-¦t wrong in a MMO. WiS is there, so why not finish it by giving it a purpose (a possibility to meet/show off your avatar)? That does not mean that the spaceship aspect becomes irrelevant or that CCP should not concentrate on in spaceships. Let's just assume there are a finite number of sockets available for connection to Eve.
Now let's assume that a bunch of people glut those sockets for this worthless content that adds nothing to actual gameplay.
Then let's assume that other people who actually want to play Eve can't connect due to the sockets being glutted by Barbieworlders.
Finally, let's ask those players' opinions of this scenario.
We want the majority of our PCU to be active pilots in space, not cybersexing isolationists completely divorced from the real game content. |
EVE Roy Mustang
State War Academy Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2012.06.09 20:41:00 -
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Uinuva Karma wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Sisohiv wrote:Jayrendo Karr wrote:The moment textures hit space via the NeX, is the same moment i unsub. Every company has gone down the p2w or pay to advance faster slope(with a few incredibly rare exceptions), CCP won't be different. I LoL'ed at the guy ignoring Plex for 9 years I wonder, how does PLEX give you anything that isn't achievable through gameplay, again? I wonder, how does AURUM give you anything that isn't achievable through gameplay, again?
Wheres the BPO for a monocle drop?
Disregard That wrote: Just what CCP needs: Bandwidth being taken up by players who aren't even playing the game.
In larger numbers than what already happens.
The number of players online means nothing if we can't shoot most of them and they aren't buying spaceships.
Imagine the whine induced by WiS players the gankers cant kill lol |
Disregard That
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
112
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Posted - 2012.06.09 20:47:00 -
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EVE Roy Mustang wrote:Imagine the whine induced by WiS players the gankers cant kill lol I'm glad that you are amused. Please continue advocating for this feature.
I will also continue to be amused at the lack of results of your advocacy.
Imagine the tears, indeed! |
EVE Roy Mustang
State War Academy Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2012.06.09 21:02:00 -
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Disregard That wrote:EVE Roy Mustang wrote:Imagine the whine induced by WiS players the gankers cant kill lol I'm glad that you are amused. Please continue advocating for this feature. I will also continue to be amused at the lack of results of your advocacy. Imagine the tears, indeed!
Please point out the place I "advocated" FOR WiS. Oh yeah, I didnt.
Troll elsewhere ganktard |
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Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2012.06.09 21:04:00 -
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Confirming that the Nobel exchange is dead. I cannot trade any of my Nobel prizes for anything in eve. The Noble Exchange on the other hand, is probably not doing terribly for something that literally gets no work these days. |
Disregard That
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
112
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Posted - 2012.06.09 21:06:00 -
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EVE Roy Mustang wrote:Disregard That wrote:EVE Roy Mustang wrote:Imagine the whine induced by WiS players the gankers cant kill lol I'm glad that you are amused. Please continue advocating for this feature. I will also continue to be amused at the lack of results of your advocacy. Imagine the tears, indeed! Please point out the place I "advocated" FOR WiS. Oh yeah, I didnt. Troll elsewhere ganktard All I can say to this is can I borrow a bucket anybody?
I believe I've been called a tard by a qq queen on the Eve O GD forums!
I need to harvest these tears, and my other buckets are all full. |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2012.06.09 21:10:00 -
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Ugh, these GD forums. :( |
EVE Roy Mustang
State War Academy Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2012.06.09 21:11:00 -
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Disregard That wrote:EVE Roy Mustang wrote:Disregard That wrote:EVE Roy Mustang wrote:Imagine the whine induced by WiS players the gankers cant kill lol I'm glad that you are amused. Please continue advocating for this feature. I will also continue to be amused at the lack of results of your advocacy. Imagine the tears, indeed! Please point out the place I "advocated" FOR WiS. Oh yeah, I didnt. Troll elsewhere ganktard All I can say to this is can I borrow a bucket anybody? I believe I've been called a tard by a qq queen on the Eve O GD forums! I need to harvest these tears, and my other buckets are all full.
Only person I see freely crying all over the forums is you. |
Disregard That
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
112
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Posted - 2012.06.09 21:14:00 -
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Ah, the "No, you!" defense.
This works well at juvenile levels of the qq mocking game.
I think it runs out of oompf around age 4 though. Maybe 5 for late-bloomers. |
Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope Gallente Federation
259
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Posted - 2012.06.09 21:41:00 -
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Disregard That wrote:Uinuva Karma wrote:I hear you.
However, the cancer is already here and can't be cured, so why not give the bears something to shut them up even for a short while?
Because it will hurt CCP's bottom line in the end. Those people would be taking up connection sockets that actual players could be connecting to - and enriching Eve.
But if CCP's aim for EVE is to build the ultimate s-f sim, then people doing that "useless" (in your eyes) content will be "enriching EVE."
And that's their stated ultimate aim, as shown even in the video that Hilmar linked in his "apology" letter.
So yes, they've sensibly re-trenched and are concentrating on FiS, but that's not going to last forever, and they'll be revisiting the avatar-based content a year or two down the line.
So you must be in the wrong game.
My sense is that even "hardcore" players would enjoy WiS content - so long as it's multiplayer and has a point. IIRC even Mittani was looking forward to it being good, and a needed new element for the game. The fiasco about Incarna partly arose because it was neither. |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
66
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Posted - 2012.06.09 21:43:00 -
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Barbelo Valentinian wrote:Disregard That wrote:Uinuva Karma wrote:I hear you.
However, the cancer is already here and can't be cured, so why not give the bears something to shut them up even for a short while?
Because it will hurt CCP's bottom line in the end. Those people would be taking up connection sockets that actual players could be connecting to - and enriching Eve. But if CCP's aim for EVE is to build the ultimate s-f sim, then people doing that "useless" (in your eyes) content will be "enriching EVE." And that's their stated ultimate aim, as shown even in the video that Hilmar linked in his "apology" letter. So yes, they've sensibly re-trenched and are concentrating on FiS, but that's not going to last forever, and they'll be revisiting the avatar-based content a year or two down the line. So you must be in the wrong game.
People doing whatever doesn't destroy eve. What does destroy eve are those people who attempt to strong-arm CCP into fundamentally changing the game from its ruthless, cutthroat roots. |
Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope Gallente Federation
259
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Posted - 2012.06.09 21:44:00 -
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Alia Gon'die wrote:
People doing whatever doesn't destroy eve. What does destroy eve are those people who attempt to strong-arm CCP into fundamentally changing the game from its ruthless, cutthroat roots.
What, you mean the concept of "multiplayer Elite"?
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Disregard That
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.06.09 21:45:00 -
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Barbelo Valentinian wrote:Disregard That wrote:Uinuva Karma wrote:I hear you.
However, the cancer is already here and can't be cured, so why not give the bears something to shut them up even for a short while?
Because it will hurt CCP's bottom line in the end. Those people would be taking up connection sockets that actual players could be connecting to - and enriching Eve. But if CCP's aim for EVE is to build the ultimate s-f sim, then people doing that "useless" (in your eyes) content will be "enriching EVE." And that's their stated ultimate aim, as shown even in the video that Hilmar linked in his "apology" letter. So yes, they've sensibly re-trenched and are concentrating on FiS, but that's not going to last forever, and they'll be revisiting the avatar-based content a year or two down the line. So you must be in the wrong game. I'm willing to bet that if players can't connect to the available sockets due to cybersexing in stations (CiS) content, that the subs would probably take a pretty serious hit.
Tell yourself what you like, though.
Edit: Oops quoted the wrong post. |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
66
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Posted - 2012.06.09 21:47:00 -
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Disregard That wrote:Barbelo Valentinian wrote:Disregard That wrote:Uinuva Karma wrote:I hear you.
However, the cancer is already here and can't be cured, so why not give the bears something to shut them up even for a short while?
Because it will hurt CCP's bottom line in the end. Those people would be taking up connection sockets that actual players could be connecting to - and enriching Eve. But if CCP's aim for EVE is to build the ultimate s-f sim, then people doing that "useless" (in your eyes) content will be "enriching EVE." And that's their stated ultimate aim, as shown even in the video that Hilmar linked in his "apology" letter. So yes, they've sensibly re-trenched and are concentrating on FiS, but that's not going to last forever, and they'll be revisiting the avatar-based content a year or two down the line. So you must be in the wrong game. I'm willing to bet that if players can't connect to the available sockets due to cybersexing in stations (CiS) content, that the subs would probably take a pretty serious hit. Tell yourself what you like, though. Edit: Oops quoted the wrong post.
My bad, I didn't realize we were talking about FiS (******* in Stations) that would probably hurt eve to a point. |
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