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Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:44:00 -
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Disregard That wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:Tippia wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:Disregard That wrote:Actually dude I've got a beast of a PC and am one of the few who could, if I were interested in it, probably play WiS content multiplayer. So you can't run CQ with your PC? This whole GÇ£readingGÇ¥ thing isn't for you, huh? Did he not make a post implying that no one would be able to run WiS? Yes, he did. Then goes on to talk about the beast of a pc he has? Yes, he did. So what the **** is complaining about? Actually, I said it was currently a computational nightmare. Where did I say nobody could run it?
"I'm guessing that at the current metric, the minute the door opens and people try to interact in stations their collective video cards and processors will mostly all fry."
Then next time you want to get cute about someone elses ability to read, I'd ask you to refer to your own posts, genius.
And maybe go look up the word, imply.
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Widow Cain
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:47:00 -
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Lady Bloodsucker wrote:It has been a very long time since I have seen any new stuff on the Nobel Exchange. Is it completely dead. Is there any news about the Nobel Exchange or ?. On the market I see a lot of different clothing in many different colours. When is all this apparel going so be available.
They are still adding stuff in spit of the children who are pouting because their mommy won't buy them a monocle.
The only reason you have not seen anything recently is the stuff the artists did in the past few months got used as Fanfest perks.
For example the white blouse.
OMG You are sooo pixel macho... |
Widow Cain
20
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:49:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:Tippia wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:Will you please do me a favor.
Think about that rationally for a second. Please. Ok. The fact that you cannot lose the stuff you wear makes it different from everything else in EVE and makes it fundamentally different from PLEX ( especially since PLEX are economy neutral). No other item in EVE has this kind of protection. NeX items are nothing like PLEX. Don't you use PLEX to get AUR to purchase from the NeX. People seem to be overlooking this. It's no different from selling PLEX on the market. Someone spend real world currency on a game item that they're selling to other individuals. Whether that item is the PLEX directly or a shirt from the NeX, it's all derived from the exact same thing. It's no different from selling PLEX, but you don't have a problem with that, I take it? You guys are only complaining about the NeX because it's clearly set up like a MT shop. PLEX on the other hand, even though it's still RMT, doesn't get any complaints because it's not done in the same shop setup. I'm sorry, but there is no logical reason to have any problem with the NeX, as long as they never sell anything that is gameplay altering. You shouldn't be buying ammo or ships that didn't at least first require you to purchase ammo or ships from a player. And you don't lose the clothing you picked in the character creator, that's irrelevant. If they did make it possible to lose the NeX clothing then they'd pretty much guarantee that when WiS comes, no one would buy clothing off the NeX. Putting a NeX item on the market is the exact same thing as putting a PLEX on the market. You just converted PLEX into another digital goods instead of it being gametime.
You are wrong, the logical reason to be mad at NeX is that the monolce is more than mommy will spring for. You can't assume everyone is a rational adult.
OMG You are sooo pixel macho... |
Disregard That
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
146
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:50:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:"I'm guessing that at the current metric, the minute the door opens and people try to interact in stations their collective video cards and processors will mostly all fry."
Then next time you want to get cute about someone elses ability to read, I'd ask you to refer to your own posts, genius.
And maybe go look up the word, imply.
I did not imply anything bro. I stated quite plainly that they would probably mostly fry.
Most means not all.
Not all means not all.
There was never any implication of 'all.'
If Boat takes us out on a fleet and everybody dies but a few people, did Boat wipe the whole fleet?
Think about it. |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
107
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:50:00 -
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Tippia wrote:
Did he not make a post implying that no one would be able to run WiS?
No. He said that he would be able to run it. Somehow, you managed to read this as him not being able to run it. That's some pretty strange reading thereGǪ[/quote]
I thnk my advice to other guy is also fitting to you as well.
Reread what was being said.
He implied that most people won't be able to run WiS. I only asked IF HE was having trouble running CQ. If you can run CQ, odds are you'll be able to run WiS. |
Disregard That
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
146
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:53:00 -
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Can you demonstrate that metric for say, Jita IV-4, where you might encounter, say, 250 times the load that you experience currently in CQ? |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
107
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:53:00 -
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Disregard That wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:"I'm guessing that at the current metric, the minute the door opens and people try to interact in stations their collective video cards and processors will mostly all fry."
Then next time you want to get cute about someone elses ability to read, I'd ask you to refer to your own posts, genius.
And maybe go look up the word, imply.
I did not imply anything bro. I stated quite plainly that they would probably mostly fry. Most means not all. Not all means not all. There was never any implication of 'all.' If Boat takes us out on a fleet and everybody dies but a few people, did Boat wipe the whole fleet? Think about it.
Ok.
Disregard That wrote:I'm guessing that at the current metric, the minute the door opens and people try to interact in stations their collective video cards and processors will mostly all fry." That is so totally not an implication that you think that most people won't be able to run WiS. You're so totally right, dude.
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Azahni Vah'nos
Vah'nos Family
231
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:54:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:It's no different from selling PLEX on the market. Someone spend real world currency on a game item that they're selling to other individuals. Whether that item is the PLEX directly or a shirt from the NeX, it's all derived from the exact same thing. Care to explain then why the NeX Store even exists at all if there is no difference? Nex (Cash Shop)-á/ Aurum - removing sand from the sandbox since Incarna. Currently the only use for aurum is to buy virtual items in the in-game store, but Cockerill expects to expand its uses in the future. |
Disregard That
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
146
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:55:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:Disregard That wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:"I'm guessing that at the current metric, the minute the door opens and people try to interact in stations their collective video cards and processors will mostly all fry."
Then next time you want to get cute about someone elses ability to read, I'd ask you to refer to your own posts, genius.
And maybe go look up the word, imply.
I did not imply anything bro. I stated quite plainly that they would probably mostly fry. Most means not all. Not all means not all. There was never any implication of 'all.' If Boat takes us out on a fleet and everybody dies but a few people, did Boat wipe the whole fleet? Think about it. Ok. Disregard That wrote:I'm guessing that at the current metric, the minute the door opens and people try to interact in stations their collective video cards and processors will mostly all fry." That is so totally not an implication that you think that most people won't be able to run WiS. You're so totally right, dude. You didn't say most, did you? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7820
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:57:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:I thnk my advice to other guy is also fitting to you as well. I think the other guy's advice to you is fitting: learn to quote.
Quote:Reread what was being said. Ok:
GÇ£Actually dude I've got a beast of a PC and am one of the few who could, if I were interested in it, probably play WiS content multiplayer.GÇ¥
He was saying that he would have no trouble running WiS (much less CQ). From this you concluded
GÇ£So you can't run CQ with your PC?GÇ¥
What he said is that being able to run CQ is not a good indication of whether or not you'll be able to run full WiS, since it doesn't scale well (and he was kind enough to left unsaid that CQ itself already has come very close to frying graphics cards and processors). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Widow Cain
20
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:57:00 -
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Azahni Vah'nos wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:It's no different from selling PLEX on the market. Someone spend real world currency on a game item that they're selling to other individuals. Whether that item is the PLEX directly or a shirt from the NeX, it's all derived from the exact same thing. Care to explain then why the NeX Store even exists at all if there is no difference?
Are you serious, you don't get it, or are you being retorical?
OMG You are sooo pixel macho... |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
108
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Posted - 2012.06.10 17:00:00 -
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Azahni Vah'nos wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:It's no different from selling PLEX on the market. Someone spend real world currency on a game item that they're selling to other individuals. Whether that item is the PLEX directly or a shirt from the NeX, it's all derived from the exact same thing. Care to explain then why the NeX Store even exists at all if there is no difference?
I can only say that PLEX should be purchased through the NeX, and that having it seperated in the way that they do leads to a lot of confusion and the impression that one is different from the other, when they're not.
Whether the PLEX is purchaed to add gametime or to purchase a shirt, it all starts from the same point. Someone spent money to purchase PLEX. To complain how that PLEX is used is silly. A shirt doesn't effect anyone, any more then someone who used the plex to add a month to their EVE subscription.
In fact, I'd go so far as to say that there are people bitching about the NeX who sell PLEX that someone else used to buy **** off the NeX. Don't see anyone bitching about thier PLEX being used to buy a ******* shirt though. |
Azahni Vah'nos
Vah'nos Family
231
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Posted - 2012.06.10 17:06:00 -
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Widow Cain wrote:Azahni Vah'nos wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:It's no different from selling PLEX on the market. Someone spend real world currency on a game item that they're selling to other individuals. Whether that item is the PLEX directly or a shirt from the NeX, it's all derived from the exact same thing. Care to explain then why the NeX Store even exists at all if there is no difference? Are you serious, you don't get it, or are you being retorical? Oh don't worry, I 'get' the NeX Store more than you could possibly imagine. Nex (Cash Shop)-á/ Aurum - removing sand from the sandbox since Incarna. Currently the only use for aurum is to buy virtual items in the in-game store, but Cockerill expects to expand its uses in the future. |
Widow Cain
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Posted - 2012.06.10 17:12:00 -
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Azahni Vah'nos wrote:Widow Cain wrote:Azahni Vah'nos wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:It's no different from selling PLEX on the market. Someone spend real world currency on a game item that they're selling to other individuals. Whether that item is the PLEX directly or a shirt from the NeX, it's all derived from the exact same thing. Care to explain then why the NeX Store even exists at all if there is no difference? Are you serious, you don't get it, or are you being retorical? Oh don't worry, I 'get' the NeX Store more than you could possibly imagine.
Ok so you're just trolling then, got it. OMG You are sooo pixel macho... |
Azahni Vah'nos
Vah'nos Family
231
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Posted - 2012.06.10 17:44:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:Azahni Vah'nos wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:It's no different from selling PLEX on the market. Someone spend real world currency on a game item that they're selling to other individuals. Whether that item is the PLEX directly or a shirt from the NeX, it's all derived from the exact same thing. Care to explain then why the NeX Store even exists at all if there is no difference? I can only say that PLEX should be purchased through the NeX, and that having it seperated in the way that they do leads to a lot of confusion and the impression that one is different from the other, when they're not. Whether the PLEX is purchaed to add gametime or to purchase a shirt, it all starts from the same point. Someone spent money to purchase PLEX. To complain how that PLEX is used is silly. A shirt doesn't effect anyone, any more then someone who used the plex to add a month to their EVE subscription. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that there are people bitching about the NeX who sell PLEX that someone else used to buy **** off the NeX. Don't see anyone bitching about thier PLEX being used to buy a ******* shirt though. You may wish to have a chat with CCP's accountants because I don't think they will agree with you. So many people don't understand what Plex mean to CCP.
Unused Plex in the game are a liability for CCP whereas a NeX item is not.
Take this scenario however unlikely to help you understand what I mean by liability with regards to accounting. If all the people currently with Plex in the game handed them out so that no-one in the game had to pay a subscription for the next 2-3 months and no-one purchased anymore Plex during that time, sounds great for the players doesn't it? ... not so for CCP as their cashflow would be in dire straits to the point where potentially they couldn't afford to pay employees, partners, loans, etc. Nex (Cash Shop)-á/ Aurum - removing sand from the sandbox since Incarna. Currently the only use for aurum is to buy virtual items in the in-game store, but Cockerill expects to expand its uses in the future. |
Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope Gallente Federation
267
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Posted - 2012.06.10 19:58:00 -
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Disregard That wrote:
I'm guessing that at the current metric, the minute the door opens and people try to interact in stations their collective video cards and processors will mostly all fry.
CQ is a computational nightmare as-is. Its design was not well-thought and it shows.
Scaling the disaster up to multiplayer mode won't get Eve new customers. it will probably have the opposite effect.
It's been optimized quite a bit since Incarna days. I never had any trouble running it to start with (on my 3 year old o/c'd 3.8Ghz DualCore, 8G ram, with more recent HD5770 vidcard), and it's even smoother now. By the time they get round to WiS again (which may possibly be next year), I doubt there will be much of a problem.
Although of course with CCP, you can never be quite sure. Geniuses one day, Special Needs the next.
Anyway, technical issues aside, I hope we've disposed of the canard that the concept of WiS "isn't EVE-ish". It all depends on how it's implemented gameplay-wise. EVE is a bigger game than just pew-pew in space (that's included, but it's not the whole thing, and never has been intended to be the whole thing).
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Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
307
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Posted - 2012.06.10 20:02:00 -
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Deader than a dead parrot. You want fries with that? |
Cys Root
The Oasis Group Combat Mining and Logistics
23
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Posted - 2012.06.10 20:50:00 -
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1. Port Dust514 to PC 2. Merge it with EVE 3. Replace "Enter CQ" button with "Beam down to Planet" |
JitaPriceChecker2
State War Academy Caldari State
173
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Posted - 2012.06.10 21:00:00 -
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The most evil thing about NEX is that items generated there are immortal.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
643
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Posted - 2012.06.10 22:29:00 -
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This is the part where I ask if anyone knows why, despite the fact that CCP constantly state that they don't have enough isk sinks, they created an entirely new, completely pointless, non-transferable currency for NEX rather than just making it take isk in order to make it serve as an (allegedly much needed) isk sink. |
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Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory Blue Nation
179
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Posted - 2012.06.10 22:57:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:This is the part where I ask if anyone knows why, despite the fact that CCP constantly state that they don't have enough isk sinks, they created an entirely new, completely pointless, non-transferable currency for NEX rather than just making it take isk in order to make it serve as an (allegedly much needed) isk sink.
ISK doesn't pay for wages. |
Headerman1
The New Era C0NVICTED
20
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Posted - 2012.06.10 23:11:00 -
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It would be great if the NeX has the same amount of things available as the Clothing section of the market. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
529
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Posted - 2012.06.10 23:27:00 -
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Mortimer Civeri wrote:Solhild wrote:I hope it is soundly killed and the content goes to player industry/sandbox - including ship skins Can't wait for Goons to start flying pink ships to gank in.
Pink ships covered in dongues & buttes . |
Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
226
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Posted - 2012.06.11 01:20:00 -
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Savage Angel wrote:You can exchange the Nobel Prize? What is the going rate? More than a Heisman Trophy but nowhere close to a Stanley Cup.
Please support: export of settings in editable format
Your stuff goes here. |
Myxx
Blacklight Incorporated Broken Chains Alliance
535
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Posted - 2012.06.11 08:30:00 -
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kill it and let players convert all of their aur back into plexes or isk. |
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