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CCP Tanis	Posted - 2009.10.12 14:03:00 - [1] Dominion is just around the corner and it brings more improvements and enhancements with it. We think you'll be happy with the changes we've made; of course now we need to put it to the test in a "live-like" situation! To that end we will be running a series of fleet fights and other mass-tests on our main test server, Singularity. These tests will begin Wednesday, August 5. We need at least 100 pilots, preferably 400+à the more people who show up, the better. _________________________________ Test schedule: Thursday [October 15] @ 17:00 GMT Friday [October 17] @ 18:00 GMT -- Sovereignty test Thursday [October 29] @ 17:00 GMT _________________________________ How to connect to Singularity for this test: Make a copy of the current Tranquility (TQ) client Visit the Sisi patch page. Patch the copied client to the Singularity build Login to the singularity test server Join the in-game channel "FleetTesting" Disable brackets \| Read here if you're not sure how Listen for instructions and ask questions in-channel What exactly is being tested? First part of the test will focus on Fleet vs. Fleet open combat Second we will move the engagement to a Starbase-siege (POS) You should pay attention to your FPS (use ctrl+f to view in-game) Anyone able to use multiple accounts is strongly encouraged to bring your alts! CCP staff and ISD will be on hand prior to the test to help move players to the starting location Don't forget to fill out the feedback thread after the test (links will be clearly posted at the end of the test!) What should I bring? You will want a Battleship, carrier, dread, or support ship Use drones! Give weapon linking a try Spider tanks 4tw ____________________________ I break thingsÖ CCP Tanis - EVE Quality Assurance\|EVE Live Team CCP Games

C4rnag3 nemo nobis impune lacessit	Posted - 2009.10.12 14:26:00 - [2] so, business as usual.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2009.10.12 14:32:00 - [3] nom nom yum yum Win a Cap Recharger II BPO for 10M ISK

Myleena	Posted - 2009.10.12 14:38:00 - [4] Originally by: Chribba nom nom yum yum I read that while the image of spiders was still in my subconscious. It wasn't good.
ElTimmie	Posted - 2009.10.12 15:07:00 - [5] Friday the 17th is prolly Friday the 16th ?
Sleepkevert Amarr Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.10.12 15:56:00 - [6] Originally by: Chribba nom nom yum yum You really just post for the sake of getting your postcount up, don't you? Originally by: ElTimmie Friday the 17th is prolly Friday the 16th ? Indeed, little mistake there. _ Add your own line!
Batolemaeus Caldari Money Liberation Services Corp	Posted - 2009.10.12 16:33:00 - [7] Originally by: CCP Tanis Spider tanks 4tw Yessir! ---------------------------------------------- Originally by: CCP Prism X In New Eden, EVE wins you.
Wrexia Lock Stock and Two Smoking Lasers	Posted - 2009.10.12 16:39:00 - [8] So whos FC'ing?
Koro Sarum Amarr Helljumpers Double Dietsch Rudders	Posted - 2009.10.12 17:06:00 - [9] Originally by: Wrexia So whos FC'ing? Dibs! -I am by far the most annoying person ive ever met -if you though sparta was madness, obviously you haven't met me

CCP Tanis	Posted - 2009.10.12 17:16:00 - [10] An issue has been found on the test server which may force us to postpone the mass-testing. We are hoping to have things sorted out in time, but we may need to re-schedule the tests for next week or later. I will update this thread with more information as soon as I have it. ____________________________ I break thingsÖ CCP Tanis - EVE Quality Assurance\|EVE Live Team CCP Games


Crying Reaper	Posted - 2009.10.12 17:25:00 - [11] I'm diffidently down for this. Just stick me in a squad member spot and let me shoot my lazors!! lol
Ivanna Nuke Daralux	Posted - 2009.10.12 19:31:00 - [12] I shall be there also.
Tuskar	Posted - 2009.10.12 21:42:00 - [13] Do we get all lvl5 skills again?
Fournone	Posted - 2009.10.12 21:52:00 - [14] i guess the answer to tiskar's question will answer this to. Since im fairly new to EVE and still working on my cruisers, i was wondering about smaller ships becuase you said to bring BS and cap ships. Also, will we be provided with ships if we don't have the skills for larger vessels?
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.10.12 22:10:00 - [15] Originally by: Tuskar Do we get all lvl5 skills again? No. Hell no. Never again. It was a complete mess and too many kids interpreted it as a "Free for all fun day do what you want the rules don't apply". _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Wacoede Amarr Allied Combat Team	Posted - 2009.10.12 22:48:00 - [16] Originally by: Fournone Edited by: Fournone on 12/10/2009 22:07:48 i guess the answer to tiskar's question will answer this to. Since im fairly new to EVE and still working on my cruisers, i was wondering about smaller ships becuase you said to bring BS and cap ships. Also, will we be provided with ships if we don't have the skills for larger vessels? (btw i've never been on the test server but i've seen vids on youtube on how to get on it) while you can't fly BS's or above all size ships are needed in fleet fights so bring what you can ___________________________________________________ Originally by: Avery Fatwallet when someone sez "eve is too tuff" standard reply is "can i have stuff?"
Le Dentiste Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.10.12 23:06:00 - [17] The more the merrier!
Fournone	Posted - 2009.10.13 00:27:00 - [18] another question, will we get new ships if we get killed? im not going to just hop merrily into a +50 vs +50 PvP smackdown unless i get my ship back after theres nothing left but scrap metal and frozen corpses
Draco Argen	Posted - 2009.10.13 00:40:00 - [19] A POS bash? No new Sov system testing? Sniff Also to the person asking about ship replacement...this is on the test server, new ships cost 100isk only at seeded stations (plus mods) Buy and fit a few if you want to keep coming back
Guillieme Lohran	Posted - 2009.10.13 01:23:00 - [20] Sweet! Hopefully it will be possible to actually log on this time.

Zaknussem Intrum Industria	Posted - 2009.10.13 01:25:00 - [21] Wait, you're actually having a full round of testing, more than a month in advance of the announced release date? Someone pinch me, this must be a dream. Good job, CCP. Originally by: CCP Tanis An issue has been found on the test server which may force us to postpone the mass-testing. We are hoping to have things sorted out in time, but we may need to re-schedule the tests for next week or later. One complaint I keep hearing about SiSi is that it's using...how to put it...sub-par hardware to keep it up and running. Conspiracy theorists claim that a trio of a ZX Spectrum, an Atari 2600 and a wooden abacus are keeping the server going. Are there plans to either upgrade or temporarily reinforce the test server during this round of testing?
Seichen Sanyalo	Posted - 2009.10.13 03:37:00 - [22] Any chance that logging in might take minutes rather than hours? I waited like 2 hours to test the cap ship thing. Course it was worth it, but it might help numbers if logging in wasnt a pain. Also, (off topic) why do cap ships warp sideways?
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.10.13 04:16:00 - [23] Originally by: Seichen Sanyalo Any chance that logging in might take minutes rather than hours? I waited like 2 hours to test the cap ship thing. Course it was worth it, but it might help numbers if logging in wasnt a pain. Also, (off topic) why do cap ships warp sideways? For luls. Also due to programming restrictions and the way Aligning is done. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Tenn soki	Posted - 2009.10.13 06:40:00 - [24] I'll be there, just tell me where to go and what to do and it will be done! By Your Command!
Tian Nu	Posted - 2009.10.13 09:24:00 - [25] I love the test but this time It was FAIL, first canÆt connect in like 18h on the 9th then redeem cap in FD to found out once in game that is closed down. Try to organize thinks better CCP that one was not so good. Cheers to the ppl that actually could participateà but some time I wonder if is good to give moms to ppl that doing know what the mom isà hitting DD just is not what mom is made for
Spurty Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.10.13 11:32:00 - [26] Respecfully request you man the MOVEME channel 23/7 during these tests. Hours of wasted time spent logging in plus another 45 mins autopiloting a shuttle to FD- doesn't make fio a happy tester Should be a CSM requirement to man the moveme channel for an hour a day :) Originally by: Machine Delta When making a point, anyone taking it should consider the source. pretty deep coming from you
lylaal Caldari D00M.	Posted - 2009.10.13 11:40:00 - [27] Originally by: Spurty Respecfully request you man the MOVEME channel 23/7 during these tests. Hours of wasted time spent logging in plus another 45 mins autopiloting a shuttle to FD- doesn't make fio a happy tester Should be a CSM requirement to man the moveme channel for an hour a day :) you could set a clone to one of your academy clone spots and then it wont be 45 mins ap trip :) but its still a valid point you make here.
Pheon Silver	Posted - 2009.10.13 12:07:00 - [28] This ought to be interesting, Of course it would help if SISI was running lol still not accepting connections after 3 days of it being offline.

CCP Tanis	Posted - 2009.10.13 13:37:00 - [29] We've sorted the issues with Singularity and are now back on schedule! Rest assured folks; Singularity will be available and open in time for the test. Don't forget to grab a copy of the SiSi client at least half an hour ahead of time to ensure you can be ready on time and don't miss any of the fun :) ____________________________ I break thingsÖ CCP Tanis - EVE Quality Assurance\|EVE Live Team CCP Games

Ferdio Ricotez Gallente	Posted - 2009.10.13 13:53:00 - [30] Uh... Do we have to be in a Battleship or stuff? I can't fly anything bigger than a Cruiser (and I can only fly a Frigate well), but I'd really like to join in with the testing... ----- Gallente flying Minmatar - A Podlog

Cozmik R5 Minmatar Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate	Posted - 2009.10.13 14:03:00 - [31] Sweet. Will Sisi be turned back on before Thursday though? ____________________ Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
lylaal Caldari D00M.	Posted - 2009.10.13 14:03:00 - [32] Originally by: Ferdio Ricotez Uh... Do we have to be in a Battleship or stuff? I can't fly anything bigger than a Cruiser (and I can only fly a Frigate well), but I'd really like to join in with the testing... if you can fly amarr i would suggest coming in a double plated maller then. that has alot of hp and you can function as a tanked tackler and not die inatsntly but just to be sure fit out multiple ones so that if you die you can be right back in it with a new one.
Ferdio Ricotez Gallente	Posted - 2009.10.13 14:09:00 - [33] Originally by: lylaal Originally by: Ferdio Ricotez Uh... Do we have to be in a Battleship or stuff? I can't fly anything bigger than a Cruiser (and I can only fly a Frigate well), but I'd really like to join in with the testing... if you can fly amarr i would suggest coming in a double plated maller then. that has alot of hp and you can function as a tanked tackler and not die inatsntly but just to be sure fit out multiple ones so that if you die you can be right back in it with a new one. Nope, I'm Gallente but I fly Minmatar. Did you know Mechanic is called Duct Tape Skillz in Minmatar territory? Anyway, I'd rather come as a tackler or something. Though the average lifetime of a tackler in a battle as big as this would be 3 seconds... ----- Gallente flying Minmatar - A Podlog
Susy Assulu Caldari Atomic Mexicans	Posted - 2009.10.13 14:14:00 - [34] Buy lots of tacklers then, or fit a frigate and attack the other tacklers (!!!RIFTER!!!)
lylaal Caldari D00M.	Posted - 2009.10.13 14:15:00 - [35] then take a rupture with a 1600mm platte some resis, ac's and a neut. that should also work well
Uzume Ame	Posted - 2009.10.13 14:16:00 - [36] The pourpose of the test is to generate lag most probably so it doesn't matter, just be there with something shooting and moving around. If youcan use drones much better.
Sith LordX	Posted - 2009.10.13 14:19:00 - [37] Originally by: Tuskar Do we get all lvl5 skills again? Yes, next year. They do it every year.
Ferdio Ricotez Gallente	Posted - 2009.10.13 14:20:00 - [38] Originally by: Uzume Ame The pourpose of the test is to generate lag most probably so it doesn't matter, just be there with something shooting and moving around. If youcan use drones much better. Actually, I can use Drones. I'll think of something to fly... ----- Gallente flying Minmatar - A Podlog
GHO57	Posted - 2009.10.13 14:49:00 - [39] Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Tuskar Do we get all lvl5 skills again? No. Hell no. Never again. It was a complete mess and too many kids interpreted it as a "Free for all fun day do what you want the rules don't apply". Just Fighters V so we can test the fighter bombers though would be great... :)
5ilent 5hift Amarr	Posted - 2009.10.13 16:28:00 - [40] Originally by: GHO57 Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Tuskar Do we get all lvl5 skills again? No. Hell no. Never again. It was a complete mess and too many kids interpreted it as a "Free for all fun day do what you want the rules don't apply". Just Fighters V so we can test the fighter bombers though would be great... :) This From personal experience (mainly connection status checks and hair-removing due to haivng to reconnect), i've found they sure as hell create lag when the torps hit

Fournone	Posted - 2009.10.13 16:55:00 - [41] Originally by: Draco Argen A POS bash? No new Sov system testing? Sniff Also to the person asking about ship replacement...this is on the test server, new ships cost 100isk only at seeded stations (plus mods) Buy and fit a few if you want to keep coming back Another question (or two) so a ship costs 100isk, is that for all ships? Also do the mods, drones, guns, or equipment also cost isk? I would go check that out myself but as we all know the test server still isn't accepting connections.
Spurty Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.10.13 17:10:00 - [42] Originally by: Fournone Another question (or two) so a ship costs 100isk, is that for all ships? Also do the mods, drones, guns, or equipment also cost isk? I would go check that out myself but as we all know the test server still isn't accepting connections. all items you can buy on the market at special stations (t1 and t2) can be purchased for 100isk yes Anything on contracts can be picked up by buying 10dreads and insuring them, then self destruct them for payout :) Originally by: Machine Delta When making a point, anyone taking it should consider the source. pretty deep coming from you
Koro Sarum Amarr Helljumpers Double Dietsch Rudders	Posted - 2009.10.13 21:06:00 - [43] Originally by: Spurty Originally by: Fournone Another question (or two) so a ship costs 100isk, is that for all ships? Also do the mods, drones, guns, or equipment also cost isk? I would go check that out myself but as we all know the test server still isn't accepting connections. all items you can buy on the market at special stations (t1 and t2) can be purchased for 100isk yes Anything on contracts can be picked up by buying 10dreads and insuring them, then self destruct them for payout :) only problem is if he cant fly dreads (unless they give us all lvl 5s again ) and even then u dont even have to insure them -I am by far the most annoying person ive ever met -if you though sparta was madness, obviously you haven't met me
Aias Telemonias	Posted - 2009.10.13 21:56:00 - [44] i've never done SiSi testing before, but I wanna try it. i have a couple questions! if i lose a ship on SiSi, does it do anything to my character on TQ? in fact, is anything related from SiSi to TQ? like if i jump systems on the test server, will i start there in TQ? probably the noobiest questions, sorry!
Jameroz Echoes of Space	Posted - 2009.10.13 22:47:00 - [45] Originally by: Aias Telemonias i've never done SiSi testing before, but I wanna try it. i have a couple questions! if i lose a ship on SiSi, does it do anything to my character on TQ? in fact, is anything related from SiSi to TQ? like if i jump systems on the test server, will i start there in TQ? Singularity is completely separate from TQ. Nothing you do there will affect anything in TQ.
Aias Telemonias	Posted - 2009.10.13 23:03:00 - [46] Originally by: Jameroz Originally by: Aias Telemonias i've never done SiSi testing before, but I wanna try it. i have a couple questions! if i lose a ship on SiSi, does it do anything to my character on TQ? in fact, is anything related from SiSi to TQ? like if i jump systems on the test server, will i start there in TQ? Singularity is completely separate from TQ. Nothing you do there will affect anything in TQ. okay cool, thanks!
Aglais Caldari	Posted - 2009.10.13 23:53:00 - [47] I'd totally join, but I have none of the skills to be an effective member of a fleet. The most deadly thing I can fly for PvP is I think a Harpy, maybe a Drake.
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.10.14 00:43:00 - [48] Originally by: Aglais I'd totally join, but I have none of the skills to be an effective member of a fleet. The most deadly thing I can fly for PvP is I think a Harpy, maybe a Drake. If you can listen and follow directions, you're qualified for fleet-vs-fleet PvP. A good place to start for looking for PvP fits for ships is http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/
captain dirka Caldari Blackwater Syndicate Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.10.14 08:47:00 - [49] Originally by: Seth Ruin Originally by: Aglais I'd totally join, but I have none of the skills to be an effective member of a fleet. The most deadly thing I can fly for PvP is I think a Harpy, maybe a Drake. If you can listen and follow directions, you're qualified for fleet-vs-fleet PvP. A good place to start for looking for PvP fits for ships is http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/ a good place to look for fleet fights isnt w/ ed/irc as they would build a 300 man fleet to sit in pos's all day bad advice imho - end troll i look foward to some for fun large scale fleets wish more of this would happen especialy for USTZ
Illectroculus Defined	Posted - 2009.10.14 15:20:00 - [50] Originally by: Aias Telemonias i've never done SiSi testing before, but I wanna try it. i have a couple questions! if i lose a ship on SiSi, does it do anything to my character on TQ? in fact, is anything related from SiSi to TQ? like if i jump systems on the test server, will i start there in TQ? probably the noobiest questions, sorry! Hey relax, we all know pvp can be intimidating, and you know what, I was like you once. But get on SiSi, load up the best ship you can and have fun, if you die there's nothing lost. Yes... come into the light young one, do not be afraid of the fire of pvp, we shall take care of you......

Zarnoo Blueprint Haus Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.10.14 16:24:00 - [51] Where do we need to be with our ships ? What system are we staging in (I wanna be red team!)
Epoch Flux	Posted - 2009.10.14 17:22:00 - [52] It would be uber if the MAC folks could participate. hint hint... And yes, i do follow the MAC thread on this issue.

CCP Tanis	Posted - 2009.10.14 19:31:00 - [53] Moar info! Some answers to various questions that have come up, in no particular order: Singularity will indeed be up, open to players, and even have a brand new mirror for this test! Anything you do on Sisi will have absolutely no impact on your characters on TQ (Tranquility) The fight will take place in FD-MLJ, but CCP/ISD will be on hand in the 'MoveMe' channel to move you to the test location If you cannot fly a battleship, bring the biggest ship you can fly (even if it's a n00b ship, we still can use your help!) We will not adjust anyone's skills, or any other character information for this test; asking will get you laughed at. DO NOT USE SMARTBOMBS / BOMBS!!!!!!!!! (seriously, podding people on Sisi, even accidentally, is not cool) The market in FD-MLJ (test system) will be fully seeded with ships/modules/etc for 100 ISK each. Saddly, there is still no Mac client for Singularity You should always try to run logserver when you are on Sisi DO NOT USE SMARTBOMBS / BOMBS!!!!!!!!! ____________________________ I break thingsÖ CCP Tanis - EVE Quality Assurance\|EVE Live Team CCP Games

Burning Horizon The Lighthouse Corporation	Posted - 2009.10.14 19:55:00 - [54] I'll be there
Shaunathan	Posted - 2009.10.14 20:04:00 - [55] Bombs? You want it? It's yours my friend... as long as you have enough ru... wait a minute... no bombs?! :(
Emma Royd Caldari Maddled Gommerils	Posted - 2009.10.14 20:30:00 - [56] Is the pos shooty thing just to try take down a set up pos or will it be defended (ie do we need defensive setup on ship or pure damage dealing?) "To Do Is To Be" - Nietzsche "To Do Is To Do" - Kant "Do Be Do Be Do" - Sinatra
Kell Braugh Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.10.15 01:50:00 - [57] Quote: The sovereignty test on Friday has been canceled due to schedule conflicts When has it been rescheduled for? Seems like, although the changes have farther reaching affects on players day to day lives in eve than how much damage a titan can do, they have received little to no time for public testing and vetting thus far. /end tinfoil. - In essence, any combat related activity involving damage has been 'speed nerfed' to just take 6 times longer with a predetermined outcome coined balance by CCP.
Porucznik Borewicz Gallente Divine Retribution Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.10.15 09:31:00 - [58] I already have a feedback about the new biuld that is running on Sigi. Since when is cutting down the "Interval Default" setting FPS count to 30 FPS better then the 60 FPS that it is now in the current (.101786) build?? Shouldn't patches be about upgrading the performance of the game and not downgrading it? The Devs just screwed up the performance of the client by 50%! The current client runs at 60 FPS with the "Interval Default" setting on, the current Sigi build runs only at 30 FPS. What the hell have You guys done?!
OrionDude POS Builder Inc. Silent Requiem	Posted - 2009.10.15 10:48:00 - [59] Originally by: CCP Tanis Moar info! DO NOT USE SMARTBOMBS / BOMBS!!!!!!!!! (seriously, podding people on Sisi, even accidentally, is not cool) Sigh .. i only podded that GM once with my smartie (seriously) :) i should have saved the killmail tho.
Jack TheSlayer Minmatar Outcome.	Posted - 2009.10.15 12:01:00 - [60] Edited by: Jack TheSlayer on 15/10/2009 12:03:56 Originally by: OrionDude Originally by: CCP Tanis Moar info! DO NOT USE SMARTBOMBS / BOMBS!!!!!!!!! (seriously, podding people on Sisi, even accidentally, is not cool) Sigh .. i only podded that GM once with my smartie (seriously) :) i should have saved the killmail tho. lol that would've been good to see i'm gonna come join the fight for first time on sisi since the big war which ended up bein me sat in a system in a carrier all by myself, oh u gonna be includin a few faction ships in this would b nice flyin a rep fleet phoon or sumthin in this battle? OUTCOME. Corporation are recruiting come see us on our public channel:OUTCOME

Fournone	Posted - 2009.10.15 14:13:00 - [61] woot 3 hour mark! one last question, will we get a sighnal in local for the fight to start and what if we arrive late? Also what about the ammo, alittle pricy for med antimatter to be at 100isk per unit.
Fournone	Posted - 2009.10.15 14:27:00 - [62] another thing, it doesn't have my recent skills, it says i don't have hull upgrades lvl 4 but i do, its not letting my use my damage controller 2
Horido Bon Minmatar Republic Scrapyards	Posted - 2009.10.15 15:53:00 - [63] Originally by: Fournone another thing, it doesn't have my recent skills, it says i don't have hull upgrades lvl 4 but i do, its not letting my use my damage controller 2 Originally by: CCP Tanis Moar info! We will not adjust anyone's skills, or any other character information for this test; asking will get you laughed at. DO NOT USE SMARTBOMBS / BOMBS!!!!!!!!!
Agent Unknown Caldari	Posted - 2009.10.15 15:55:00 - [64] Originally by: Porucznik Borewicz I already have a feedback about the new biuld that is running on Sigi. Since when is cutting down the "Interval Default" setting FPS count to 30 FPS better then the 60 FPS that it is now in the current (.101786) build?? Shouldn't patches be about upgrading the performance of the game and not downgrading it? The Devs just screwed up the performance of the client by 50%! The current client runs at 60 FPS with the "Interval Default" setting on, the current Sigi build runs only at 30 FPS. What the hell have You guys done?! You do realize that EVE doesn't need to be at 60 FPS, right? It's not an FPS, so you don't need split second reaction times to really do anything. If anything, 30 FPS will help ease the load on graphics cards, and leave power available when loading large grids and such. Originally by: CCP Fallout And yelling is bad. It makes the baby Jesus cry and when the baby Jesus cries I'm forced to lock threads
Porucznik Borewicz Gallente Divine Retribution Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.10.15 17:42:00 - [65] Originally by: Agent Unknown You do realize that EVE doesn't need to be at 60 FPS, right? It's not an FPS, so you don't need split second reaction times to really do anything. If anything, 30 FPS will help ease the load on graphics cards, and leave power available when loading large grids and such. Edit: And it looks like I'll miss both tests because of class. Heh... That's a good one mate. Really. So when CCP decides to cut it down to 15 FPS You gonna be also cool with that, right?? Right.
Klament	Posted - 2009.10.16 06:22:00 - [66] Originally by: Porucznik Borewicz I already have a feedback about the new biuld that is running on Sigi. Since when is cutting down the "Interval Default" setting FPS count to 30 FPS better then the 60 FPS that it is now in the current (.101786) build?? Shouldn't patches be about upgrading the performance of the game and not downgrading it? The Devs just screwed up the performance of the client by 50%! The current client runs at 60 FPS with the "Interval Default" setting on, the current Sigi build runs only at 30 FPS. What the hell have You guys done?! ...maybe its time for an upgrade? I am still getting 60 FPS, not like it matters, and it think the new background looks good.
Alezra Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.10.16 18:01:00 - [67] Originally by: Porucznik Borewicz I already have a feedback about the new biuld that is running on Sigi. Since when is cutting down the "Interval Default" setting FPS count to 30 FPS better then the 60 FPS that it is now in the current (.101786) build?? Shouldn't patches be about upgrading the performance of the game and not downgrading it? The Devs just screwed up the performance of the client by 50%! The current client runs at 60 FPS with the "Interval Default" setting on, the current Sigi build runs only at 30 FPS. What the hell have You guys done?! The "Present Interval" is a form of Vertical Synchronization. Vsync sacrifices frames in order to match V-blank signals (and prevent screen tearing.) In order to do this, generally a game will latch to either 60 FPS or 30 FPS depending on how many frames are being consumed each refresh cycle. In your case, your computer is no longer fast enough to handle 60 FPS with the current SISI build (which could happen for a variety of reasons) and probable is at say, 55 FPS. This being the case, the Vsync will latch you to 30 FPS instead. And this is why you shouldn't turn on Advanced Video settings unless you know what you're doing. If you want to see your uncapped FPS turn Interval settings to "Immediate"
Zarnooo	Posted - 2009.10.16 19:22:00 - [68] This seems pointless. I have downloaded the latest Sis patch (107648), and guess what.. incompatible version. I really don't see the point of a test server if more often that not (and I regularly hit this problem) there is not a client release or patch to allow you to log on. Z
Gideon Kross Caldari Kross Industries Ltd	Posted - 2009.10.17 02:21:00 - [69] Originally by: Zarnooo This seems pointless. I have downloaded the latest Sis patch (107648), and guess what.. incompatible version. I really don't see the point of a test server if more often that not (and I regularly hit this problem) there is not a client release or patch to allow you to log on. Z I seem to be having the same issue... Even went as far as downloading and installing the full build. Still "Incompatible Build". Any ideas as to what's BorkedÖ?
Dae'Vorian	Posted - 2009.10.17 10:19:00 - [70] Edited by: Dae''Vorian on 17/10/2009 10:20:55 likewise several downloads later.. the only way i found that works is to delete the current sisi install, re-copy my tq install to the ccp folder as copy-of-eve and then go to http://www.eveonline.com/patches/patches.asp?s=singularity&test=&system=win and select the appropriate download from there and install manually.(windows only) The download says its 1.3mb .. its not, its 689mb currently so slow connections beware. Be advised, ccp keep changing it and I have had to do this now 3 different times because they dont offer patches to reverse whatever they have changed since the last time ! sloppy and annoyingly time consuming tbh. It would be better perhaps to avoid frustration and simply wait til they say they have firmed it up, assuming they ever do. edit* the last time i managed it to work (yesterday) i had up to date skills so they have mirrored very recently at least :)

Jagged Bluetooth	Posted - 2009.10.17 14:57:00 - [71] For the love of Damsel... can't you guys at EVE add a little box on singularity that say's " UPGRADE VERSION HERE " We aren't all software geeks!!!! that can follow your seemingly simple instructions and not all of us have years of experience exploring our pc and not all of us have the latest version of windows etc etc etc Is it too much to ask ? EVERY SINGLE PERSON I have spoke to says it's a nightmare to get around the constant patching and faffing about !!! Cmon guys sort it out please ! Love from Jagged
Ziront	Posted - 2009.10.17 19:03:00 - [72] Originally by: Jagged Bluetooth For the love of Damsel... can't you guys at EVE add a little box on singularity that say's " UPGRADE VERSION HERE " We aren't all software geeks!!!! that can follow your seemingly simple instructions and not all of us have years of experience exploring our pc and not all of us have the latest version of windows etc etc etc Is it too much to ask ? EVERY SINGLE PERSON I have spoke to says it's a nightmare to get around the constant patching and faffing about !!! Cmon guys sort it out please ! Love from Jagged 1 - Turn on your Computer 2 - Click on your "my computer" Icon" 3 - Click on your hard drive (most likely the C drive) 4 - Click on the program files folder 5 - Find the folder titled CCP - Click on it 6 - Copy your EVE folder and paste it in another folder on your computer of your choice 7 - Go to www.eveonline.com, click EVE client and select singularity (test) 8 - Load up your copy of EVE and in the top left check what the number is on the log on screen this is your version 9 - On the download page select that version number in the drop down menu 10 - download and run the patch like any other EVE patch 11 - When it comes to choosing your file location, select the folder that you saved the second copy of eve to, for example (C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE TEST) and click patch, (Make sure you don't select sub folders in this folder) 12 - After this, go INTO the copied client folder (C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE TEST) for example. 13 - Look for the icon called "EVE" 14 - Right click that Icon and select "create shortcut" 15 - you should now have an icon titled "eve-Shortcut" 16 - drag this icon on to your Desktop ( Were the rest of your icons are -.- ) 17 - Right click this icon (eve-shortcut) and select properties 18 - On the new window that opens there will be several tabs, select the "shortcut" tab 19 - On this tab you will see a box that has target written next to it... 20 - In this box it will say something along the lines of ("C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE TEST\eve.exe"), this sentance changes depending on were you saved your EVE 21 - Put a space after this line and copy/paste in /end /LUA:OFF /server:87.237.38.50, so for me it would look like ("C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE TEST\eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF /server:87.237.38.50) Simple enough? ^^ 21 steps to installing Singularity //Ziront
Xantala Minmatar	Posted - 2009.10.17 21:49:00 - [73] Nice list Ziront, the only thing that is slightly confusing is #8. Aren't we all using the same version on live? The system has always insisted that I download the latest patch before I can play. The current version would appear to be 101786. The patch that is downloaded is called evepremiumpatch101786-107648_test_m.exe Anyway, followed all of these steps very carefully and I still get the error "Incompatible build". Since this is the third time with no success, I'm thinking there must be something else going on. When the program boots up, it reports the version as 107648, so it appears that the patch is implemented properly. Could this have something to do with cache? I'm tearing my hair out here.
Ziront	Posted - 2009.10.17 22:02:00 - [74] Edited by: Ziront on 17/10/2009 22:02:38 Originally by: Xantala Nice list Ziront, the only thing that is slightly confusing is #8. Aren't we all using the same version on live? The system has always insisted that I download the latest patch before I can play. The current version would appear to be 101786. The patch that is downloaded is called evepremiumpatch101786-107648_test_m.exe Anyway, followed all of these steps very carefully and I still get the error "Incompatible build". Since this is the third time with no success, I'm thinking there must be something else going on. When the program boots up, it reports the version as 107648, so it appears that the patch is implemented properly. Could this have something to do with cache? I'm tearing my hair out here. Sorry, my knoledge does not go past what I've written down, I just did exactly what the Wiki told me and It worked, sorry you are ahving problems mate. And as to 8 - Some people may not have an up-to date test server copy, they may be using an old one etc - Thats why I noted it done as my test server copy was MUCH older than live
Zarnooo	Posted - 2009.10.18 10:54:00 - [75] This is what "SHOULD" happen: 1) Create a copy of my standard (Tranquility) eve install 2) Go to the Singularity patching site, and download the patch 3) Install the patch 4) Play on singularity What does happen, is that my current production client is 106796, I download the patch to upgrade my client to 107648, which is what the patching site says, and then I get "Incompatible version". This means CCP have got the singularity server at a different patch level that they have made patches available for. This seems to happen over and over (and over) again, makign the whole concept of testing a farce. I'm a software developer so I love people helping me debug, and I love being the first to find bug in other peoples code (ok, so I'm a geek), but after trying a few times, I get bored with spending time goign through all the hoops, only to find I still can't log on. CCP needs to get their release cycle sorted, so when they release a new singularity patch, they either release a patch for it, or post a note saying "Please don't waste you time tring to log on, because you wont be able to". Otherwise people will just give up, and the concept of others debugging and therefore helping them, goes away. COME ON CCP, GET IT TOGETHER. We WANT to help out, and it's in our interest to do so, so please help us, help you !! Z
Ziront	Posted - 2009.10.18 11:31:00 - [76] Edited by: Ziront on 18/10/2009 11:32:41 Originally by: Zarnooo This is what "SHOULD" happen: 1) Create a copy of my standard (Tranquility) eve install 2) Go to the Singularity patching site, and download the patch 3) Install the patch 4) Play on singularity What does happen, is that my current production client is 106796, I download the patch to upgrade my client to 107648, which is what the patching site says, and then I get "Incompatible version". This means CCP have got the singularity server at a different patch level that they have made patches available for. This seems to happen over and over (and over) again, makign the whole concept of testing a farce. I'm a software developer so I love people helping me debug, and I love being the first to find bug in other peoples code (ok, so I'm a geek), but after trying a few times, I get bored with spending time goign through all the hoops, only to find I still can't log on. CCP needs to get their release cycle sorted, so when they release a new singularity patch, they either release a patch for it, or post a note saying "Please don't waste you time tring to log on, because you wont be able to". Otherwise people will just give up, and the concept of others debugging and therefore helping them, goes away. COME ON CCP, GET IT TOGETHER. We WANT to help out, and it's in our interest to do so, so please help us, help you !! Z Do you add "/end /LUA:OFF /server:87.237.38.50)" to the end of your new shortcut? ... All I know is I followed CCPs instructions very closely, which were quite straight foward really, and I've never had a problem with it, GL sorting it out
Dae'Vorian	Posted - 2009.10.18 11:38:00 - [77] Edited by: Dae''Vorian on 18/10/2009 11:38:29 aye I now get exactly the same result as zarnoo, build 106796 which updates to Latest Build 107648 which then says incompatible version. For teh love of god why dont you (ccp) expand the ubiquitous message ''incompatible version'' to include the current correct version so we know what to look for ie ''incompatible version, use build xxxxxx'' a link to that patch would also be bloody useful save us having to pick our way through looking for it if it even exists. frankly this is so frustrating it takes around 30 minutes to go through all the hoops and im tired of trying it. I am close to not bothering now and while im not a 'geek' as such i do know what im doing generally on computers.... and yes i added the switches to the link :) to no effect :(
Vahz Rex	Posted - 2009.10.18 13:28:00 - [78] I get the same thing, incompatible build when I'm at 107648. I'm a noob on TQ so I guess it doesnt matter much anyway as there's not much I can test, but all the same I wanted to help with the testing. CCP you should list the expected build, at least in the notes.
Dae'Vorian	Posted - 2009.10.18 21:41:00 - [79] Edited by: Dae''Vorian on 18/10/2009 21:42:11 ok I have no idea at all why its not stated on the eve website or even the patch pages but this link took me to a patch download that patched my sisi install 107648 to the latest version/build and worked an hour ago http://ccp.vo.llnwd.net/o2/test/evepremiumpatch107648-108268_test_m.exe gd luck and ccp fix this for heaven's sake it's ridiculous to expect people to go to this much hassle to HELP you to get it right ! 1) Add the info to teh startup page as to which is the current build version instead of just saying incompatible build... this is known as customer CARE :) 2) Add a link to the correct patch, its not rocket science to do this ! 3) keep the patch links page up to date, this one isnt even listed there as far as i can see !
Kaizer Douken Gallente The Black Legionnares	Posted - 2009.10.19 15:00:00 - [80] Originally by: Dae'Vorian Edited by: Dae''Vorian on 18/10/2009 21:42:11 ok I have no idea at all why its not stated on the eve website or even the patch pages but this link took me to a patch download that patched my sisi install 107648 to the latest version/build and worked an hour ago http://ccp.vo.llnwd.net/o2/test/evepremiumpatch107648-108268_test_m.exe gd luck and ccp fix this for heaven's sake it's ridiculous to expect people to go to this much hassle to HELP you to get it right ! 1) Add the info to teh startup page as to which is the current build version instead of just saying incompatible build... this is known as customer CARE :) 2) Add a link to the correct patch, its not rocket science to do this ! 3) keep the patch links page up to date, this one isnt even listed there as far as i can see ! Gosh... I can't believe a simple 4.6 MB download was keeping me from playing. I tried to update yesterday but the patch isn't in the patch page... Thanks man, you're the man Originally by: Imran Tam if your sausage looked anything like that, you should have checked the expiration date.

Qinoly Gallente Avib VOV	Posted - 2009.10.23 07:57:00 - [81] Originally by: Fournone Edited by: Fournone on 12/10/2009 22:07:48 i guess the answer to tiskar's question will answer this to. Since im fairly new to EVE and still working on my cruisers, i was wondering about smaller ships becuase you said to bring BS and cap ships. Also, will we be provided with ships if we don't have the skills for larger vessels? (btw i've never been on the test server but i've seen vids on youtube on how to get on it) BS's or bigger are no fun, don't let them tell you otherwise. The bigger the ship, the less fun. Bring a fast cruiser or interceptor. _________________________________________________ Shattered Crystal 60 Days Eve-Online GTC
Max Wilson	Posted - 2009.10.23 23:54:00 - [82] U want sniper bs og closerange spidertanks?
MickyS THE EVE RAW RANGERS ALLIANCE	Posted - 2009.10.24 05:11:00 - [83] As an active subscriber and tester / bug reporter i can say i'm very disappointed with you guys ( CCP`s ) You have the nerve to ask us to test / bug report the game and when we actually have the spare time and want to do it we have to wait for freaking hours in a queue to login on the TEST server ?!?! Yes i know the "last month 1k pilots online on sisi" was a fluke event but seriously! Start reinforcing the sisi cluster in order for the 400+ expected pilots events to run smooth. Don`t expect anyone that has trouble getting in or lagging like hell while buying items to fit their ships to actually post in the "feedback thread" No we don't expect to get "special items or rights" because we're testers. We're here to lend a hand and to insure that the game we love gets the attention it deserves. Micky.
Micrihael Smith Caldari Lethargic Memorial Conglomerate Inc.	Posted - 2009.10.24 10:23:00 - [84] I have the Sis thing, I xpect I will haveto update ptches, tthat'san agony I'm prepared to put up with, as i always have a BLAST on the server, even if there's only a much-advanced veteran pirate player repeatedly killing me! You learn so much,espcially all the different ways you can die (:-D). So, Come on chaps, fingers out, and give these CCP boys a run for their money! Mother said there'd be days like this.
Kaciana SkillzKillz Enemy Of The State	Posted - 2009.10.25 15:37:00 - [85] I get the same thing everytime time I try to run test server again. Incompatiple protocal, with no option for update or patching, sooo I always have to uninstall and start from scratch, yuck
ldkhan	Posted - 2009.10.26 18:46:00 - [86] Testing, all very well and good to test, do the CCP people keep a track of what OS people are running ? just got w7 and installed it, so far had more problems with running two clients than i ever had with running it on XP. will the new patch take into consideration w7 ?

CCP Tanis	Posted - 2009.10.26 21:00:00 - [87] Originally by: ldkhan Testing, all very well and good to test, do the CCP people keep a track of what OS people are running ? just got w7 and installed it, so far had more problems with running two clients than i ever had with running it on XP. will the new patch take into consideration w7 ? With Dominion we will begin supporting Windows 7! Remember though, that Windows 7 is a very new operating system and many hardware manufacturers still do not have full driver support for it yet. You should expect to encounter some issues initially if you choose to use this new operating system. That said, we very much want to get feedback from Windows 7 users about their experience in EVE. We strongly encourage you to join in these tests and be sure to visit our feedback thread to tell us what you think and what your experience was like. Also be aware that we've added the Sovereignty test back into the schedule, this Friday. ____________________________ I break thingsÖ CCP Tanis - EVE Quality Assurance\|EVE Live Team CCP Games

Particul	Posted - 2009.10.27 15:14:00 - [88] Thursday [October 29] @ 17:00 GMT Thursday [October 30] @ 17:00 GMT -- Sovereignty test is back on!! ???
Dae'Vorian	Posted - 2009.10.28 11:40:00 - [89] Edited by: Dae''Vorian on 28/10/2009 11:40:34 Originally by: Kaciana I get the same thing everytime time I try to run test server again. Incompatiple protocal, with no option for update or patching, sooo I always have to uninstall and start from scratch, yuck another thing you can try is this, open 'my computer' navigate to where yr sisi install is, mine is (c:\programs\ccp\copy_of_eve) open and edit the common.ini file in word, notepad etc to change the build=xxxxxx to the latest build number close and save the file and run the repair.exe app in the same folder. this worked to get me to 109210 and from there i was able to run the prog and use the auto installer for 110372 which appears to be the latest atm (28/10/09)... although this said it failed it actually seems to have worked !! beats me lol. gd luck
OSGOD	Posted - 2009.11.10 10:37:00 - [90] MMM same shoit happens everytime ,i followed instructions for sisi played 4 hr or 2 then logged went abck to singularity afert playinh around with orca (yes it was that long ago) came back bout week later got the incompatible build message no insta update came as does in TQ my time is mine if CCP are going to waste bye making us spendhrs ****ing around getting on sisi they have 2 choices with me pay me for wasting my time or i just dont go back on sisi as is my current status TQ is bad enough with llag and bugs and blaming our gear i have deleted sisi and will not be going back on till it is as simple as logging on to TQ and updating exactly same ,if CCP dont wont our help they should say so instead of wasting our time with no compensation

Anonymous Gallentean Gallente	Posted - 2009.11.17 13:33:00 - [91] Originally by: OSGOD MMM same shoit happens everytime ,i followed instructions for sisi played 4 hr or 2 then logged went abck to singularity afert playinh around with orca (yes it was that long ago) came back bout week later got the incompatible build message no insta update came as does in TQ my time is mine if CCP are going to waste bye making us spendhrs ****ing around getting on sisi they have 2 choices with me pay me for wasting my time or i just dont go back on sisi as is my current status TQ is bad enough with llag and bugs and blaming our gear i have deleted sisi and will not be going back on till it is as simple as logging on to TQ and updating exactly same ,if CCP dont wont our help they should say so instead of wasting our time with no compensation kthxbai
Irongut H A V O C Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.11.19 04:11:00 - [92] Originally by: CCP Tanis With Dominion we will begin supporting Windows 7! Remember though, that Windows 7 is a very new operating system and many hardware manufacturers still do not have full driver support for it yet. You should expect to encounter some issues initially if you choose to use this new operating system. FYI current version works perfectly on Win7 32 bit. --
Vincent Gaines Dirt Nap Squad	Posted - 2009.11.25 00:26:00 - [93] Originally by: CCP Tanis Thursday [November 26] @ 17:00 GMT -- Final Mass-test before Dominion release! Thanks, in America that's Thanksgiving.
Agent Known	Posted - 2009.11.26 17:20:00 - [94] Originally by: Vincent Gaines Originally by: CCP Tanis Thursday [November 26] @ 17:00 GMT -- Final Mass-test before Dominion release! Thanks, in America that's Thanksgiving. They rescheduled it. On another note, I also have an annoying sig. inaftertimeflux
YoshiKumiko Amarr Maxx Industries	Posted - 2009.11.26 17:39:00 - [95] Yeah i'm getting an incompatability error. It says here i have version 117038. But the server i'm connecting to is just some port number and not singularity.
mrkaczor	Posted - 2009.11.26 18:23:00 - [96] NO FILE : http://ccp.vo.llnwd.net/o2/test/evepremiumpatch101786-117331_test.exe CCP .. what's goin on?
Zhali Yhas	Posted - 2009.11.26 21:26:00 - [97] Unfortunately Singularity doesn't appear to want to work. Not only that, the singularity install seems to be very unaware that, even though I specified a completely different folder than my Tranquility install for it to be put in, I don't want it to mess with my tranquility install, which it has done. Now the question I have is whether or not I can tell it to look for the Singularity server address without completely uninstalling, both installs, of EVE.
weasle350	Posted - 2009.11.27 05:55:00 - [98] Edited by: weasle350 on 27/11/2009 05:56:45 um if we go on to the test and we lose our ships do we actually lose them in apocrypha and we have to buy a new one or are we given new ones?
Markie Mark Caldari	Posted - 2009.11.27 11:41:00 - [99] Well I just downloaded the latest sisi patch and the start.ini is pointing to Tranquility
Noir Elsuno	Posted - 2009.11.27 12:48:00 - [100] I hope MAC users can likewise participate. Yesterday i had to switch back to PC, and it seems that there is still a patch/client for PC to download. I also hope that it works until release on Dec 1st. But it would be much greater if Mac users can participate the mass tests. Greedz

Ximen	Posted - 2009.11.27 14:27:00 - [101] haha boy i cant wait to partake in testing and make a difference with my opinion.. woo boy someone hold me back.
Sonic Sue Minmatar	Posted - 2009.11.27 15:42:00 - [102] I was hopeing to partake but server sayes inconpatable version looking at the previous comments i dont see a lot off help to solv this
Msquare	Posted - 2009.11.27 16:25:00 - [103] Ready. Online. The "about" says Version: 6.20.117460 Next problem - getting the right channel for insta-transport to the area of interest
Sergio Armand	Posted - 2009.11.27 16:38:00 - [104] Hmm I has test install and used it 2 days ago and now when I log in it says I have to d/l a huge upgrade which so far has another 6 hrs to go wtf ?! That may definitely delay u getting enough ppl to test in half an hours time unless they have 100mb internet connections :(
Markie Mark Caldari	Posted - 2009.11.27 16:55:00 - [105] I've updated to 117460 and the start.ini is still pointing to TQ I pointed this out at 11:40. I guess CCP are not watching this thread.
Msquare	Posted - 2009.11.27 17:10:00 - [106] Edited by: Msquare on 27/11/2009 17:10:47 Edited by: Msquare on 27/11/2009 17:10:16 - formatting error Originally by: Markie Mark I've updated to 117460 and the start.ini is still pointing to TQ It does on mine, too, but it seems to be ignored. In other words, it is the switch you have in the Shortcut that determines the server. So adjust you EVE shortcut to contain D:\.wherevere.youve placed.it\EVETST\eve.exe /server:87.237.38.50
Jelvan Gallente Ascent of Ages Art of Defiance	Posted - 2009.11.27 17:20:00 - [107] Edited by: Jelvan on 27/11/2009 17:21:40 Edited by: Jelvan on 27/11/2009 17:21:02 The patch to update from Tranquility to Singularity is: http://www.eveonline.com/patches/patches.asp?s=singularity&system=win&edition=&n=101786.
Diatonic Ascent of Ages Art of Defiance	Posted - 2009.11.27 17:23:00 - [108] I can get in but it says my account is disabled, even though it isn't /sigh
Markie Mark Caldari	Posted - 2009.11.27 17:24:00 - [109] Originally by: Msquare Edited by: Msquare on 27/11/2009 17:10:47 Edited by: Msquare on 27/11/2009 17:10:16 - formatting error Originally by: Markie Mark I've updated to 117460 and the start.ini is still pointing to TQ It does on mine, too, but it seems to be ignored. In other words, it is the switch you have in the Shortcut that determines the server. So adjust you EVE shortcut to contain D:\.wherevere.youve placed.it\EVETST\eve.exe /server:87.237.38.50 Thank you v.much. I'd deleted that shortcut since I prefer the main TQ shortcut on my desktop. I am now up and running thanks to you.
Markie Mark Caldari	Posted - 2009.11.27 17:36:00 - [110] so next question - where has the in game channels & mailing list button gone to on the neocom ? I have no way of joining the fleet testing channel

frdbrlw1988	Posted - 2009.11.27 17:36:00 - [111] has anyone been able to log in today? I am getting Incompatible (Version) error
Dumb Chick	Posted - 2009.11.27 19:12:00 - [112] Don't know if this has already been quoted on this thread - tbh I don't post as I can't be bothered to read through posts. I downloaded & installed the SiSi update patch this morning, I later tried to run EVE Tranq and it wouldn't work... ...after a little investigation I found that the Tranq shortcut had been re-directed at the SiSi (not working) exe. If you don't know how to change the target file of an exe follow these steps: 1) Right click on the shortcut and select "Properties" 2) Change the "Target" path to match you EVE Tranq location 3) Test & Run ...failing this just delete your Tranq short cut and then re-create it from your EVE Tranq exe usually located in the "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE" folder, by default. Hope this helps someone.
Padme Peake	Posted - 2009.11.28 13:31:00 - [113] Originally by: Markie Mark so next question - where has the in game channels & mailing list button gone to on the neocom ? I have no way of joining the fleet testing channel :D This button no longer exists in Dominion. In the chat window you find (on the top-right) what you're looking for.
Enmura	Posted - 2009.11.28 16:45:00 - [114] Originally by: Padme Peake Originally by: Markie Mark so next question - where has the in game channels & mailing list button gone to on the neocom ? I have no way of joining the fleet testing channel :D This button no longer exists in Dominion. In the chat window you find (on the top-right) what you're looking for. wtf -.- i have seach one h to find the f*** button ^^'
Rael Klaiin	Posted - 2009.11.28 19:59:00 - [115] I'd bring a Dread if they'd update my farking mirror... /= I've been flying dreads on TQ for almost a month now, still nothing on SiSi. Same for my Carrier Alt. My Mirrors are all super outdated. Any news on a mirror update before these final tests? (At least the /final/ one)
roiddigger	Posted - 2009.11.29 00:53:00 - [116] And up to todays domi patch all was working fine. After todays domi patch after the new nice domi picture it goes to black and nothing except a mouse pointer is showing . Even made a fresh copy and downloaded the full sisi patch, same result. Anybody else with the some issue?


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