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Rastigan
Caldari
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.03 20:30:00 -
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 Originally by: Diomidis
Originally by: Precisionist
true gallente commands ( well really the EOS ) is horrid.
Wha?
The Gallente Fleet Command Ship is doomed to be a low-dps /high-tanking fleet booster?
"Not packing punch as field command ships but providing bonuses to a well rounded fleet?"
The Eos has a pretty crappy punch, try slowboating to get into blaster range, and it has the worst fleet command tank by far. It has unbonused drones, the only reason it doesnt have 125m3 bandwidth is because CCP hates Gallente. 
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Rastigan
Caldari
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.03 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Precisionist
ya because 1 med neut wont totally screw u up? lol plz. You have no tackle, no way of staying in range cept mwd, if he has web or scramb you will never get into range.
That is a fail setup.
You didnt notice his Deimos has 4 mid slots
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Rastigan
Caldari
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.04 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Kail Storm
Also rails suck are you sure its not ship bonuses? They have to have better tracking than Lasers.
425mm railgun 0.0962
Tachyon T2 = 0.01329
Tachyon T2 has better tracking than 425mm rails.
Thank you, most of the Gallente has 'awesum' ships posts have been by people who have no clue, especially the Eos comments.
Every Fleet command ship has a usefull niche:
Vulture: Wicked passive,active, buffer tank and low dps, but extreme range sniping.
Claymore: Autocannons that track frigates like mad, incredible burst active tank, compliments hac/recon gangs very well with its skirmish bonuses.
Damnation: Obscene buffer tank, bonuses make RR BS gangs even stronger.
Eos: has the ability to make people say wtf is an Eos? Like a Myrmidon without a Drone Bonus, weaker tank than some field command ships.
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Rastigan
Caldari
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:05:00 -
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Edited by: Rastigan on 06/11/2009 23:05:25
Originally by: The'Best Hellfury
The number of people in this thread who expect to be able to solo in a fleet command ship is astounding 
Its a T2 Battlecruiser, it should be usefull in some reasonable way... And no one thinks that it should be a solopwnmobile, even pre-nerf the solo Eos was still subpar to the Dominix..
The baddest Field Command ship will get beaten much more often than not by a tier 1 Battleship, and often a tier 3 BC(except the Myrmidon)...
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Rastigan
Caldari
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.07 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: The'Best Hellfury
So what would you call 5x heavy drones?
just +100 more dps to an Eos over its 75m3 drone setup...
or for most Eos pilots the ability to field 5 heavy utility drones.
Heavy Drones arent exactly a battleship exclusive, all you need is 25m3 bandwidth.
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Rastigan
Caldari
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.07 12:45:00 -
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Determined to find out why everyone thinks the Eos is an awesome powerhouse even though no one buys one and the only ones in space are used just for comedy fits, I do some solopwnmobile EFT crunching:
these figures are without gangbonuses, and they are fit to use the ships natural bonuses.
Vulture: MWD and point, with blasters and hams: 570 dps and 120k EHP w/233 shield regen
Claymore: MWD and point, with AC and Hams: 660 dps , 43k EHP w/628 active regen and 1311 m/s speed
Damnation: Flying brick edition MWD and point and web, with pulses and hams: 450 dps, 160k EHP
Eos: MWD , point , and web: 655 dps and 43k ehp and 440 dps repping , if you fit a pg implant it can have a medium nos.
So not only is it the least usefull ship in a fleet, it is certainly also the worst solo machine. But its all good since everyone flys Eos's and they are victorious in fights everywhere
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Rastigan
Caldari
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.07 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Um, you just described the perfect way to waste 4 ships.
No kidding, it was just to emphasize to everyone who thinks the Eos is fine, that its bad at everything (you are better off fitting the info warfare links on a ship that lasts longer) , inlcuding what people think it could be, a dangerous solo ship.
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Boosting the EOS in the fleet CS role is good and needed. Which means its warfare links are the problem, and its tank is the problem. Active repping bonuses need to go for ships designed as fleet ships, to be replaced by something useful. Like resists.
Fleet command ships need a total overhaul like what they did to the logistic line of ships.
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