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Tippia Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.11.04 11:34:00 - [1] Edited by: Tippia on 04/11/2009 11:34:52 Originally by: Ralavina Webs went form 90% speed reduction to 60% - ships can now orbit much faster than before. That's fine but blasters optimal range is about 2km for mediums and about 3-5km for large. Ships now going about 4x as fast when webbed (1000m/s > 100m/s has now become 1000m/s > 400m/s) and the blasters, at that very close range, cannot track them. If they're flying at 400m/s, you still receive the 6+ sig modifier from the MWD they have active, which means that for tracking purposes, they're actually going at 66m/s. At 2k range, that's an angular velocity of 0.033 rad/s — well below even the slowest-tracking of medium blasters… Also, in terms of raw speed, it's worth remembering that New Web (+0.4 speed) + New Scram (+0.16 speed) is very much like Old Web (+0.1 speed) + Old Scram (no speed change). So no, the orbit speed before and after the change has nothing to do with the post-QR performance of blasters — it's actually the lack of an active MWD on the target that makes all the difference. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Tippia Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.11.04 13:06:00 - [2] Originally by: Hidden Snake Guys stop eft warrioring and try scam web combo directly in the game. U cannot fly gal non drone ship without it. That has to do with controlling range — not orbit speeds and hit chances. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Tippia Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.11.04 14:12:00 - [3] Edited by: Tippia on 04/11/2009 14:13:34 Originally by: Ralavina afterburner... Yes, I'm aware that Amarr and Minmitar also have this issue with small ships orbitting at 500m with afterburners on however they have the luxury of doing full/near full damage at 10,20,30km away whilst Gallente Blaster boats have to be within 5km to be within the optimal. Fortunately, the Gallente (in particular) have a special recipe against these pests in the form of drones, so they arguably have less problem than most races. Quote: No, because many people fit afterburners on their ships - AFs, frigates, some HACs, Pilgrims etc. Yes. You see a lot of those, mainly on killmails, since they're too slow and can't control range. Originally by: Arrador Originally by: lecrotta 425mm railgun 0.0962 Tachyon T2 = 0.01329 Tachyon T2 has better tracking than 425mm rails. I guess my math and understanding of rads is fubared. But isn't 0.0962 > 0.01329 ? Your math knowledge is ok — it's lecrotta's copy-pasting skills that are fubared. The numbers for the 425mm are one zero short – it should be 0.00962 rad/s. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Tippia Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.11.05 15:21:00 - [4] Originally by: Stuart Price Myrm is fine - you can field 5 heavy drones when I can fit siege launchers on my drake. Sign me up for both! ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Tippia Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.11.06 18:40:00 - [5] Originally by: Murina Originally by: The'Best Hellfury The number of people in this thread who expect to be able to solo in a fleet command ship is astounding Its a nice option to be able to do so, as training it on a alt and sitting it in or on the edge of a POS or in a safe position dishing out bonuses to the gang your main is on is a rather weak role imho. So what will you do with the Vulture? Give it siege launchers? Tachyon Damnations? 1400mm Claymores? Even more importantly, what will you then do to the field CSs? Citadel Nighthawks — now that would be something… ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Tippia Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.11.06 19:37:00 - [6] Originally by: Murina Id try to add content to a discussion instead of just trolling it with sarcastic comments. I did. You just didn't like the addition, which is your problem. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Tippia Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.11.06 23:51:00 - [7] Originally by: Murina Suggesting BS sized weapons on command ships with a sarcastic comment attached is nothing but troll, go away. People are suggesting that the Eos should be able to field BS-sized weapons — I'm drawing that suggestion to its conclusion. The fact that you see that as a troll provides adequate explanation for why giving the Eos more drones is a bad idea. Originally by: Rastigan Its a T2 Battlecruiser, it should be usefull in some reasonable way... It is: it can field three command modules. If there is a problem with the Fleet Command ships, it's more with those modules (and in some cases the ship's tank) than with the ship's firepower, because firepower lies so far beyond its role that it's silly. Quote: The baddest Field Command ship will get beaten much more often than not by a tier 1 Battleship, and often a tier 3 BC(except the Myrmidon)... …and Fleet Command ships should be even less of a powerhouse than those, so again: there's really no rationale behind giving the Eos more drone capability than the ship(s) that are above them in terms of being able to project force. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Tippia Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.11.07 09:33:00 - [8] Originally by: Jack Icegaard From where comes the notion that heavy drones are BS sized weapons? […] To me, there is nothing battleship-sized about sentry's [sic] or heavy drones. That's because you haven't look at them. Things like tracking, speed, size etc. make it quite obvious… ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki

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