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lecrotta Minmatar lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2009.11.04 09:01:00 - [1] Originally by: Kail Storm Also rails suck are you sure its not ship bonuses? They have to have better tracking than Lasers. 425mm railgun 0.0962 Tachyon T2 = 0.01329 Tachyon T2 has better tracking than 425mm rails.
lecrotta Minmatar lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2009.11.04 15:00:00 - [2] Originally by: Arrador Originally by: lecrotta Originally by: Kail Storm Also rails suck are you sure its not ship bonuses? They have to have better tracking than Lasers. 425mm railgun 0.0962 Tachyon T2 = 0.01329 Tachyon T2 has better tracking than 425mm rails. I guess my math and understanding of rads is fubared. But isn't 0.0962 > 0.01329 ? Yea it looks like i missed off a 0, but then if you had trudged through wind and snow fighting off hostile aliens and rabid polar bears just to.....left click the frigin weapon systems yourself and look at the bloody stats instead of being a lazy git like most ppl on here it would not have been necessary. EMOPRANT over.
lecrotta Minmatar lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2009.11.04 20:45:00 - [3] Originally by: Anubis Xian I personally think the Gallente problem is they aren't using Autocannons and the Minmatar problem is they aren't using Blasters. Actually its that ppl have not finished training lazers and amaar ships yet.
lecrotta Minmatar lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2009.11.05 14:17:00 - [4] Originally by: Belle Tristesse I conclude that most balancing suggestions so far are rubbish. IMO it's all about tanks. Racial tanking should go like this... Amarr - Armor Caldari - Shield Minmatar - Speed Gallente - Damage Therefore, ahem,MOAR DAMIDGE!!! I'd love to see Gallente remain up close in your face boats but with genuinely scary dps. And yet amarr seem to have armour, range and dmg.....
lecrotta Minmatar lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2009.11.05 19:36:00 - [5] Edited by: lecrotta on 05/11/2009 19:35:57 Originally by: wallenbergaren Oneiros should get some kind of bonus to make it appealing Like a higher sensor strength or something It did but have good bonuses they gimped the crap out of tracking links a year or two ago.
lecrotta Minmatar lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2009.11.07 19:22:00 - [6] Edited by: lecrotta on 07/11/2009 19:25:08 Originally by: Diomidis Well, guess what "captain whiners"... Yes, blasters have issues, BUT also have strengths, and DRONES are part of their strengths...yes, Gallente boats have massive drone bays, most of which range from big to ridiculous (Thorax, Brutix, Vexor before bandwidth nerf, myrm off-course) before the introduction of larger-than-usual drone bays in ships like the Harbinger for example - those things actually can add substantially to either DPS or eWar output...EVEN WHEN NOT BONUSED! Drones were quite a asset for gallente until they decided to nerf them by class size........but thanks for the input "captain clueless"... Oh and blasters do not have strengths, they have a small DPS advantage at point blank range that they can rarely apply due to the tracking/speed issues and even if they could it is massivly overshadowed by the huge range other systems have.
lecrotta Minmatar lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2009.11.07 20:25:00 - [7] Edited by: lecrotta on 07/11/2009 20:34:24 Originally by: Diomidis Sure... The lack of clues lies where? That gallente are not solo-pwn mobiles? Most of the races have a few solo capable ships in their hangars......and solo pvp now is more about catching a unaware pilot that does not logoff or warp to a POS or without a dozen buddies nearby more than anything else. Originally by: Diomidis That fleet CSs do not hold the field by themselves? Nope they do not. Originally by: Diomidis I still think those still are as good as it gets. Better than most. I dont the bonues effect aint so good, the tank is poor and the dps aint anything special...all in all a underwhelming ship for the cost to train fit and buy.... Originally by: Diomidis Cannot find many races that can "do" BS ships with MWD mods, local tank, decent buffer, full tacle and great DPS vs. all sizes of opponents. You cannot find any really unless its maybe on paper or on sissi in a 1 v 1 area, solo BS pvp pretty much died a year or two ago pal...live in the now. Originally by: Diomidis Fleet Megas are still decent imho. Not the best...but try not having the best for a change, it's not that bad. If by fleet megas you mean sniper megas id say they are ok but sniper megas have never been the best. Originally by: Diomidis The only out-classed ship in the Gallente Arsenal is the Deimos imho, which has to be flown in very specific ways to do better than average- well - so do all IMHO... What ever it is your smoking stop it cos its not good for you.
lecrotta Minmatar lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2009.11.07 21:49:00 - [8] Edited by: lecrotta on 07/11/2009 21:53:13 Originally by: Diomidis So clueless stranglers are rare - not solo capable ships, right? And that has nothing to do with Gallente in particular - right? WUT?...is that even english?. Originally by: Diomidis And we are not talking of "a few solo capable ships"...most Gallente ships are solo PvP capable with decent for their class, and multitask capabilities in gangs. Any ship with enough mids or a reasonable slot layout can be fitted for solo or gang work, this about more than just paper tiger or sissi warrior crap. Originally by: Diomidis You cannot tackle or MWD around AND tank as good as you do in a gallente BS in either an Abby or a Scorp, can u? You do not need to MWD around cos they either have a bloody great big available optimal with awsome damage AND a gigantic tank (in the case of the abaddon) or are a ewar ship with considerably better range with the ewar and its missiles than a blaster ship gets with its blasters... Originally by: Diomidis Yes, as an armored brick with lasors the Abby is great, but ppl know it and it has ways to be countered - just like Blaster-Megas are so easy to "out-range",(as most ppl claim) the Abby has ways to be countered... Interesting that you give a example of the simple and "so easy" counter to a mega, but fail miserably to give one for the abby...lol Go away your a biased joke.
lecrotta Minmatar lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2009.11.07 22:28:00 - [9] Edited by: lecrotta on 07/11/2009 22:34:27 Originally by: Diomidis Do you know many HACs that choose to engage your Ishtar solo? I dont know anybody who really goes around looking for 1 v 1 hac vs hac fights tbh so your point is worthless, mostly when ppl go solo pvping they are looking to gank ratters and are setup to do so. They MAY get into a hasc vs hac fight rarely but in those very rare cases its cos both players think they can win cos in ALL other casses one qwill run long before the fight even starts. Originally by: Diomidis Do you die a lot in your Megas or Domis vs solo abaddons? (here I lol)... NEVER...But thats cos there really are no 1 v 1 BS fights anywhere on the main server....live in the bnow fool. lol. Yes, you might not be able to solo a Drake in a Gallente BC...then again, which BC has good chances doing that? Originally by: Diomidis Mr Clue-full, you take tackle for granded, and you forget that without tackle there is no fight. Only losers or RP players that actually enjoy playing stand to fight un-winable battles. Yes, I know that if you have others pointing and webbing for you, than you perform better in a lazor / missile boat that you would in a blaster boat. Looks at the slot layout for the mega...looks at the slot layout for the abaddon...looks at the huge fiotting constraints the mega has...looks at the amount of pg/cpu the abby has...lols at mr clueless.. Originally by: Diomidis I don't see were my conclusions are paper based and were yours are written by blood on the KBs... ...looks on Diomidis ships used on BC for battleships used....sees LOTS of amarr BS used.....checks again for gallente BS...gets blood hounds and Ouija board out...still no sign of any gallente BS usage... Originally by: Diomidis If it's easy to out-range and out-track a Mega, it's easier to out-track, neut empty or gtf-out of an Abbys' claws. The abby has great dps out to overheated point range the megas dps is lower before you are out of normal web range, the mega needs to mwd to do good dps so is more vulnerable to cap warfare....oh and as was mentioned earlier they have the same slot layout so the same tackle options. Next please....
lecrotta Minmatar lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2009.11.07 23:22:00 - [10] Originally by: Diomidis Well, I do know of regions and ppl that roam around in HACs solo, and yes, they do take on other HACs...that fact that you cannot guarantee a solo fight, doesn't mean that solo fights do not exist. Yes, those are rare, but when so many ppl fly around the same regions, it's as good as it gets. And again I cannot see why being able to run away is a bad thing...ppl that like solo, like that feature - at least I do, as I prefer surving myself than fighting against all odds. You just dont get it, ppl know pretty much what ships they can or cannot beat so 1 v 1 vs another actual pvper is uber rare cos they will run from anything that can beat them. That means the very very best solo pvp ship in the game is a pain to fly cos you only get to gank ratters as everybody else runs away...now thats understandable but it does not change the fact that it makes solo pvp suck and makes ppl fly in gangs. Originally by: lecrotta 1st you are focusing on my 1vs1 BS "facts" that were merely focused on other ppl comparing stuff in 1vs1 occations. Ok heres the thing 1 v 1 BS is dead on TQ and has been for a long time so... If salesman tried to sell you the very best dodo catcher, the shiniest dodo catcher and you could see that it was in fact the best dodo catcher ever invented the thing would be worthless cos dodos are bloody extinct. Originally by: Diomidis Mr Clue-full, train for the abby then...it's a win-win situation. LVL5 amaar BS, lvl5 large pulse and beam specialisation....did it as soon as the nerfs and boosts hit the game....but you know what it dont fix blaster BS and thats what this is about... Originally by: Diomidis Diomidis can fly Amarr BSs for 3 years now. Did I train for another race BSs? No, I am now training for Gallente tbh...true...is cause of FOTM? Three years ago, by no means were Amarr BSs uber - but I started Amarr and remained Amarr. I didn't mind not being the best, and I didn't whine to be one. I had a corp and alliance backing my less-than-best ships. In fact then Megas were FOTM...and their playstyle too... You should really fly a ship before you lecture ppl on how good it is... Originally by: Diomidis I know Amarr BSs, and yes, I go after them in my ceptors and Vagas way more confident than I would against a Domi...despite the "nano-nerf" and their uber range/tracking combo. I just tend to fear scram/web and multiple neuts more, and Amarr can't do that in most cases.... Look at you own words..."than I would against a Domi"....WOULD against a domi as in do not cos you never see them solo only in gangs or ratting with ratting setups. Tough luck...should you base your whine on my case then? Originally by: Diomidis I loled at the better cap stability / Independence of the Abbys over the Mega...I lolled at it's uber tackling ability claims. 1. No BS is independant anymore 2. Range = no need to use MWD = no mwd cap usage. 3. looks for comments on tracking... I know it has more buffer tank if fitted for it...so? Yes it has more DPS if you stand to fight...so? - flee you have buffer to survive enough time and cap to outlast his MWD vs. yours. Originally by: Diomidis Solution? Don't fly solo in BSs, See you can learn..gratz. Originally by: Diomidis If you cannot do it in your ships, then train for another race. Im trained in and pretty much maxed out all 4 races T2 weapons and ships and upto lvl5 BS, apart from sheild/missile caldari ships....thanks. Originally by: Diomidis Since you sneak in BC for me, see how many ships I fly...most of those I use the most are widely different. And as i said none of them are a gallente BS, in fact i think i only see amaar BS tbh.....

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