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Leilani Solaris
Gallente
NibbleTek
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Posted - 2009.11.04 22:18:00 -
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Warrio
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.04 22:27:00 -
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Just look at all that content.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.11.04 22:29:00 -
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but self destruct
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Neyro7830
Gallente
The 5th Freedom
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.11.04 22:54:00 -
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Great now I have to wait 5 minutes to post again.
Gosh.
Oh god how did this get here I am not good with computer |
Tian Nu
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Posted - 2009.11.04 22:55:00 -
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Self destruct Nyx and not giving km to gang that shoot you for 10 min is sexy.
Will be cool that all titans just self destructs.
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Tian Nu
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Posted - 2009.11.04 22:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Neyro7830
Great now I have to wait 5 minutes to post again.
Gosh.
no you don't
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pInEaPpLe MuFfInMaN
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Posted - 2009.11.04 22:57:00 -
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I wouldn't remove self-destructs entirely, but perhaps if you are under active attack it takes 5x as long or something. Similar to if you loggoffski in combat, your ship stays in space longer.
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Diamond Jewel
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Posted - 2009.11.04 23:01:00 -
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Self destructing should cause AoE damage, like smartbombs. The bigger the ship, the larger the AoE radius and damage done from the self destruct.
They should also produce a killmail.
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Tian Nu
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Posted - 2009.11.04 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: pInEaPpLe MuFfInMaN
I wouldn't remove self-destructs entirely, but perhaps if you are under active attack it takes 5x as long or something. Similar to if you loggoffski in combat, your ship stays in space longer.
if you logofski in combat you die what prob whith that ?
ppl that don't like SD is cos = no km and eventualy faction loot ^^
I admit to SD if more that 1 bill on board.
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pInEaPpLe MuFfInMaN
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Posted - 2009.11.04 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Tian Nu
Originally by: pInEaPpLe MuFfInMaN
I wouldn't remove self-destructs entirely, but perhaps if you are under active attack it takes 5x as long or something. Similar to if you loggoffski in combat, your ship stays in space longer.
if you logofski in combat you die what prob whith that ?
ppl that don't like SD is cos = no km and eventualy faction loot ^^
I admit to SD if more that 1 bill on board.
No problems with dieing if you log off in combat. Thats why that timer is there, to make sure you have a chance to die. The same system could be extended to cover the self destruct timer. If you are under attack/have aggro your self destruct could be 15 min instead of 2.
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Salvador Scopelli
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Posted - 2009.11.04 23:11:00 -
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What is sweet is the pirate tears that a self-destruct (and thus the denial of kill-mails and loot) can bring. The ship was lost anyway, but this one form of fighting back cannot be taken away.
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Tian Nu
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Posted - 2009.11.04 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Salvador Scopelli
What is sweet is the pirate tears that a self-destruct (and thus the denial of kill-mails and loot) can bring. The ship was lost anyway, but this one form of fighting back cannot be taken away.
Yeah i find SD funny, mayby if over done it can frustrate ppl but in way is kind crazy funny.
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Gaven Darklighter
Gallente
The Athiest Syndicate
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.11.04 23:21:00 -
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Real pirates do it for the kill, not the loot. And if a pirate cries, he is not a pirate, he is Salvador Scopelli
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pInEaPpLe MuFfInMaN
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Posted - 2009.11.04 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tian Nu
Originally by: Salvador Scopelli
What is sweet is the pirate tears that a self-destruct (and thus the denial of kill-mails and loot) can bring. The ship was lost anyway, but this one form of fighting back cannot be taken away.
Yeah i find SD funny, mayby if over done it can frustrate ppl but in way is kind crazy funny.
It can be funny. Perhaps get a KM but still not drop loot? Wouldn't change any balance, just OOG killboards would care. Causing someone to self destruct is basically killing them.
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Gaven Darklighter
Gallente
The Athiest Syndicate
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.11.04 23:34:00 -
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I like that idea ^
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Salvador Scopelli
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Posted - 2009.11.05 00:16:00 -
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Quote:
It can be funny. Perhaps get a KM but still not drop loot? Wouldn't change any balance, just OOG killboards would care. Causing someone to self destruct is basically killing them.
Excellent suggestion, particularly as it should silence the FW objections.
Otherwise - hearing some pirate-wannabe coming to C&P crying about how self-destruct has spoiled his fun sounds a lot like pirate tears to me. Or wannabe-tears, not that there is much difference. Hmm.. I seem to be trolling so I will stop except for one last observation - they are not MY tears as I am not the OP now am I?
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Arouu
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Posted - 2009.11.05 00:47:00 -
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El'Tar's officer fit navy megathron.
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Jogvan
NibbleTek
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Posted - 2009.11.05 01:06:00 -
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HYDRA ALLINCE HAS NO HONOURE
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2009.11.05 01:22:00 -
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How do the tears of killmail wh*res taste? According to the advice of public health officials, I dare not find out.
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Ezien
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Posted - 2009.11.05 01:57:00 -
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Not just the pirates, it also screws over mercs who have a hard time proving a kill happened without a killmail.
Someone else can argue the loot side of it, but WTB self-destruct KMs. |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.11.05 02:33:00 -
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Ahhh what value a KM has to some people that self-destructing invokes tears.
Why are they crying over some internet message they didn't get?
After all, when they get what they want, they say "itz only interwebs space ships you ain't l33t nun go back 2 WOW"
but deny them that KM and you'd think they were possessed by Jan Brady for a week.
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Aqriue
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Posted - 2009.11.05 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ezien
Not just the pirates, it also screws over mercs who have a hard time proving a kill happened without a killmail.
Someone else can argue the loot side of it, but WTB self-destruct KMs.
If you can't destroy a target in 2 minutes, then you don't deserve a KM or the rewards of being a merc. You deny them a ship, they deny you a KM. Seems equal in all regards or bring more firepower next time.
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Haramir Haleths
Caldari
Nutella Bande
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Posted - 2009.11.05 08:15:00 -
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Why do you want a killmail for something you didnt kill ?
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Jessica Lorelei
Minmatar
Decimus Corp
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Posted - 2009.11.05 09:54:00 -
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It used to be standard practice in the navy and merchant navy to scuttle your ship to stop pirates getting the loots, what is the difference?
bad luck you didn't get it this time, always another day!
chin up 
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Ezien
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Posted - 2009.11.05 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Haramir Haleths
Why do you want a killmail for something you didnt kill ?
Generally when a merc corporation is employed it is to cause damage to an enemy corporation. Killmails act as indicators of performance to the contractor of the mercenary corporation.
Regardless of the amount of time it takes, the person self-destructed as a direct result of the merc corporation attacking them. Therefore, the merc corporation is responsible for the damages to said corp. In turn, the damages happened because the mercs were employed against the corp, and the killmail provides a way to confirm this to the employer.
Anyway, on the off-chance a dev reads this thread I've said my opinions on the matter. The rest of the trolls and trolled can duke it out for the next 5 pages. |
Golden Helmet
Caldari
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.11.05 11:34:00 -
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Leilani, I demand you put your old Outbreak-era sig back on NAOW. That is all.
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Bongo Debbie
Minmatar
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.11.05 11:44:00 -
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whining is lame
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Bucky O'Hair
Minmatar
Crimson Light Horse Brigade
Crimen Lux Lucis Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.05 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Diamond Jewel
Self destructing should cause AoE damage, like smartbombs. The bigger the ship, the larger the AoE radius and damage done from the self destruct.
They should also produce a killmail.
+1 
"Let's Croak Some Toads" |
Plan Neun
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.05 13:26:00 -
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Selfdistruct is absolutely not Lame, it is a part of gamemechanichs and it is there for a reason.
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Anna Lifera
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Posted - 2009.11.05 14:17:00 -
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had some -10s try and hold my battleship hostage and said "eject your ship and we'll spare your pod". i was not about to throw 100 mil down the drain just like that (let alone give it to them) so that's where the self-destruct came in. idk if other ppl can see u initate the self-destruct but the 2 minute countdown passed and i got my money back and my pod stayed intact.
if it wasn't for SD, pirates can hold your ship hostage indefinitely if they wanted to. then it'll boil down to being glued to the screen for a whole day (and not eat, go to the bathroom, etc.) just to figure out if he's gonna blow up your ship and pod u when u're not looking...or give into his ransom 'cause u don't have that kind of time.
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