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DeviLee	Posted - 2004.11.04 09:44:00 - [1] Edited by: DeviLee on 04/11/2004 09:47:20 150mm Railgun II Powergrid: 11MW Tracking: 0.07 ROF: 4.25 Damage: 3.3 Optimal: 14400 Medium Beam II Powergrid: 18MW Tracking: 0.1 ROF: 4 Damage: 3.6 Optimal: 12000 Are you kidding me? Medium beam is better in every department except optimal range. Yeah yeah so what if it needs 7 more PG to mount, amarr can aford it and it takes less in CPU. The tracking alone is 30% better... WTF! Now don't go nerfing anything, make railgun better. My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp.
DeviLee	Posted - 2004.11.04 09:44:00 - [2] Edited by: DeviLee on 04/11/2004 09:47:20 150mm Railgun II Powergrid: 11MW Tracking: 0.07 ROF: 4.25 Damage: 3.3 Optimal: 14400 Medium Beam II Powergrid: 18MW Tracking: 0.1 ROF: 4 Damage: 3.6 Optimal: 12000 Are you kidding me? Medium beam is better in every department except optimal range. Yeah yeah so what if it needs 7 more PG to mount, amarr can aford it and it takes less in CPU. The tracking alone is 30% better... WTF! Now don't go nerfing anything, make railgun better. My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp.
DeviLee	Posted - 2004.11.04 10:00:00 - [3] I'm not suggesting they should increase damage, but giving it it's own tactical advantage like 10k more range for example. And you know that PG can be increased quite well with Power cores and the fact that you get skill bonus on top of ship PG + power core. My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp.
DeviLee	Posted - 2004.11.04 10:00:00 - [4] I'm not suggesting they should increase damage, but giving it it's own tactical advantage like 10k more range for example. And you know that PG can be increased quite well with Power cores and the fact that you get skill bonus on top of ship PG + power core. My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp.
DeviLee	Posted - 2004.11.04 10:10:00 - [5] Let's take a look at two PG comparable weapons then: 150mm Railgun II Powergrid: 11MW Tracking: 0.07 ROF: 4.25 DM: 3.3 Optimal: 14400 Pulse medium II Powergrid: 12MW Tracking: 0.197 ROF: 3.5 DM: 3.6 Optimal: 8400 Ok range is 6k less but jesus tracking is much much better and so is every other statistic and all that for just 1 PG more. My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp.
DeviLee	Posted - 2004.11.04 10:10:00 - [6] Let's take a look at two PG comparable weapons then: 150mm Railgun II Powergrid: 11MW Tracking: 0.07 ROF: 4.25 DM: 3.3 Optimal: 14400 Pulse medium II Powergrid: 12MW Tracking: 0.197 ROF: 3.5 DM: 3.6 Optimal: 8400 Ok range is 6k less but jesus tracking is much much better and so is every other statistic and all that for just 1 PG more. My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp.
DeviLee	Posted - 2004.11.04 10:33:00 - [7] Edited by: DeviLee on 04/11/2004 10:43:24 Did fall-off ever influence your decision to use a gun, especialy with all the nerfs and changes in tracking formulas? None of the BS guns should even hit you at 100m but Mega Pulses do quite nicely. So falloff doesn't even work as far as I'm concerned. My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp.
DeviLee	Posted - 2004.11.04 10:33:00 - [8] Edited by: DeviLee on 04/11/2004 10:43:24 Did fall-off ever influence your decision to use a gun, especialy with all the nerfs and changes in tracking formulas? None of the BS guns should even hit you at 100m but Mega Pulses do quite nicely. So falloff doesn't even work as far as I'm concerned. My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp.
DeviLee	Posted - 2004.11.04 10:39:00 - [9] 50% bonus to both ranges would be: 21600m for Hybrid and 12600m for Laser. My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp.
DeviLee	Posted - 2004.11.04 10:39:00 - [10] 50% bonus to both ranges would be: 21600m for Hybrid and 12600m for Laser. My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp.
DeviLee	Posted - 2004.11.04 10:53:00 - [11] You shouldn't be able mount 3 Beam Lasers on a Punisher without power cores as they are too good. 3 Pulses are TEH WIN and that Punisher can almost tackle interceptors... well almost. Well I didn't include cap use per shot as I've never heard anyone runing out of cap due to weapons use and I've never had any problems with that. But it should use more cap anyway as it doesn't need ammo. My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp.
DeviLee	Posted - 2004.11.04 10:53:00 - [12] You shouldn't be able mount 3 Beam Lasers on a Punisher without power cores as they are too good. 3 Pulses are TEH WIN and that Punisher can almost tackle interceptors... well almost. Well I didn't include cap use per shot as I've never heard anyone runing out of cap due to weapons use and I've never had any problems with that. But it should use more cap anyway as it doesn't need ammo. My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp.
DeviLee	Posted - 2004.11.04 11:46:00 - [13] Edited by: DeviLee on 04/11/2004 11:50:56 Originally by: Levin Cavil Edited by: Levin Cavil on 04/11/2004 11:38:59 Originally by: DeviLee You shouldn't be able mount 3 Beam Lasers on a Punisher without power cores as they are too good. 3 Pulses are TEH WIN and that Punisher can almost tackle interceptors... well almost. Well I didn't include cap use per shot as I've never heard anyone runing out of cap due to weapons use and I've never had any problems with that. But it should use more cap anyway as it doesn't need ammo. /me looks at number of hybrid bonuses on frigs /me looks at number of laser bonuses on frigs /me looks at cap use /me looks at range /me looks at damage types of ammo How is a Punisher supposed to tackle an interceptor exactly? I mean its WAY slower and only has 2 mids... You can either outrun the warp scramble or warp away from the web, assuming the Punisher can get anywhere near the interceptor (which it can't). Try training up your hybrid skills and quit whining here. Instead of posting like an uninformed noob try backing up your opininon with fact, unfortunately for you that would mean not posting. Did you see the word ALMOST? Any inty pilot should be able to kill a frig or he gets laughed at. The fact that a punisher with pulses killed an inty has happened a few times when he simply outdamaged him. Originally by: Evona Moucrou Originally by: DeviLee You shouldn't be able mount 3 Beam Lasers on a Punisher without power cores as they are too good. 3 Pulses are TEH WIN and that Punisher can almost tackle interceptors... well almost. Well I didn't include cap use per shot as I've never heard anyone runing out of cap due to weapons use and I've never had any problems with that. But it should use more cap anyway as it doesn't need ammo. Counter-Question then, on which ship would you want to mount Medium Beam Lasers, and in which quantity? Medium beams can be mounted on a frig but your low slots are then severely gimped by powercores. But you are doing lots of damage, but mostly they will see action on destroyers in my oppinon, so I'd say they are destroyer weapons. Originally by: Toran Mehtar Any reason why you chose to not post cap use for the guns aswell ? And don't even think about mentioning how amarr ships get a bonus to cap use, because that is just one less bonus they get to range/ damage/ tracking. lol, only 7 grid more. Yes I didn't express myself right on that 7 PG more but what I'm trying to state in this post is that lasers and blasters are most widely represented in pvp and that should change in my oppinon. My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp.
DeviLee	Posted - 2004.11.04 11:46:00 - [14] Edited by: DeviLee on 04/11/2004 11:50:56 Originally by: Levin Cavil Edited by: Levin Cavil on 04/11/2004 11:38:59 Originally by: DeviLee You shouldn't be able mount 3 Beam Lasers on a Punisher without power cores as they are too good. 3 Pulses are TEH WIN and that Punisher can almost tackle interceptors... well almost. Well I didn't include cap use per shot as I've never heard anyone runing out of cap due to weapons use and I've never had any problems with that. But it should use more cap anyway as it doesn't need ammo. /me looks at number of hybrid bonuses on frigs /me looks at number of laser bonuses on frigs /me looks at cap use /me looks at range /me looks at damage types of ammo How is a Punisher supposed to tackle an interceptor exactly? I mean its WAY slower and only has 2 mids... You can either outrun the warp scramble or warp away from the web, assuming the Punisher can get anywhere near the interceptor (which it can't). Try training up your hybrid skills and quit whining here. Instead of posting like an uninformed noob try backing up your opininon with fact, unfortunately for you that would mean not posting. Did you see the word ALMOST? Any inty pilot should be able to kill a frig or he gets laughed at. The fact that a punisher with pulses killed an inty has happened a few times when he simply outdamaged him. Originally by: Evona Moucrou Originally by: DeviLee You shouldn't be able mount 3 Beam Lasers on a Punisher without power cores as they are too good. 3 Pulses are TEH WIN and that Punisher can almost tackle interceptors... well almost. Well I didn't include cap use per shot as I've never heard anyone runing out of cap due to weapons use and I've never had any problems with that. But it should use more cap anyway as it doesn't need ammo. Counter-Question then, on which ship would you want to mount Medium Beam Lasers, and in which quantity? Medium beams can be mounted on a frig but your low slots are then severely gimped by powercores. But you are doing lots of damage, but mostly they will see action on destroyers in my oppinon, so I'd say they are destroyer weapons. Originally by: Toran Mehtar Any reason why you chose to not post cap use for the guns aswell ? And don't even think about mentioning how amarr ships get a bonus to cap use, because that is just one less bonus they get to range/ damage/ tracking. lol, only 7 grid more. Yes I didn't express myself right on that 7 PG more but what I'm trying to state in this post is that lasers and blasters are most widely represented in pvp and that should change in my oppinon. My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp.
DeviLee	Posted - 2004.11.04 12:02:00 - [15] That's what I said. My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp.
DeviLee	Posted - 2004.11.04 12:02:00 - [16] That's what I said. My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp.
DeviLee	Posted - 2004.11.04 12:17:00 - [17] Well said. Harpy is my assault ship of choice that's why I'm posting this. Seems I was to quick on the judgement when I had tech II lasers and hybrids in my hangar. Point taken... My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp.
DeviLee	Posted - 2004.11.04 12:17:00 - [18] Well said. Harpy is my assault ship of choice that's why I'm posting this. Seems I was to quick on the judgement when I had tech II lasers and hybrids in my hangar. Point taken... My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp.

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