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Vhaln
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Posted - 2004.11.05 01:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Nooey
Extremely well said F'nog.
You mean how he spent one small paragraph to disagree, then five more paragraphs to explain why Derisor's opinions suck? Yes, very eloquent, but um, imho, supported Derisor's point pretty well. Maybe not outright hostile, but very ad hominem, when the original post was much more general.
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Vhaln
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Posted - 2004.11.05 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Nooey
Extremely well said F'nog.
You mean how he spent one small paragraph to disagree, then five more paragraphs to explain why Derisor's opinions suck? Yes, very eloquent, but um, imho, supported Derisor's point pretty well. Maybe not outright hostile, but very ad hominem, when the original post was much more general.
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Nooey
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Posted - 2004.11.05 02:17:00 -
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Edited by: Nooey on 05/11/2004 02:26:37
Edited by: Nooey on 05/11/2004 02:26:14
Where did he drift into ad hominem?
*Is glad he knows philosophical Jargon*
PARAGRAPH THREE: Hmm ok there it is.
I guess your idea of an adult and rational argument is everyone agreeing with you and praising you for your wisdom and insight.
Ok, that'd be the only sentence in that entire section i'd label as ad-hom. Hardly compares to Derisor stating outright "And fortunately your opinions doesnt matter" or whatever the f he said. I just didn't like the guy's hypocrisy is all. But I don't really give a crap tbh. Just thought the ad-hom call a bit strange, since F'Nog was all about attacking the way this guy argued, and not the guy himself, bar that one sentence.
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Nooey
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Posted - 2004.11.05 02:17:00 -
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Edited by: Nooey on 05/11/2004 02:26:37
Edited by: Nooey on 05/11/2004 02:26:14
Where did he drift into ad hominem?
*Is glad he knows philosophical Jargon*
PARAGRAPH THREE: Hmm ok there it is.
I guess your idea of an adult and rational argument is everyone agreeing with you and praising you for your wisdom and insight.
Ok, that'd be the only sentence in that entire section i'd label as ad-hom. Hardly compares to Derisor stating outright "And fortunately your opinions doesnt matter" or whatever the f he said. I just didn't like the guy's hypocrisy is all. But I don't really give a crap tbh. Just thought the ad-hom call a bit strange, since F'Nog was all about attacking the way this guy argued, and not the guy himself, bar that one sentence.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.11.05 02:45:00 -
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I wasn't saying that Derisor's opinions suck, though I guess I do believe that to some extent, although I would prefer to call them ill-informed and wildly inaccurate which could be considered the same thing, but why he seems to **** so many people off, which is what he wanted to know. And the other part was not meant as an attack, just an observation of how he seems to react to others' views. Maybe I worded it somewhat harshly, but I stand by my interpretation of his responses.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.11.05 02:45:00 -
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I wasn't saying that Derisor's opinions suck, though I guess I do believe that to some extent, although I would prefer to call them ill-informed and wildly inaccurate which could be considered the same thing, but why he seems to **** so many people off, which is what he wanted to know. And the other part was not meant as an attack, just an observation of how he seems to react to others' views. Maybe I worded it somewhat harshly, but I stand by my interpretation of his responses.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.11.05 02:52:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 05/11/2004 02:56:19
Derisor, you have a this problem with a LOT of communities.
The common factor? You.
Fact check and use the ideas forum allready. This isn't the place for suggestions.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.11.05 02:52:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 05/11/2004 02:56:19
Derisor, you have a this problem with a LOT of communities.
The common factor? You.
Fact check and use the ideas forum allready. This isn't the place for suggestions.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Vhaln
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Posted - 2004.11.05 03:36:00 -
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Edited by: Vhaln on 05/11/2004 03:41:07
Originally by: Nooey
Where did he drift into ad hominem?
I just meant comments that were about the person raising the issue, rather than being about the issue itself.
Originally by: F'nog
I wasn't saying that Derisor's opinions suck, though I guess I do believe that to some extent, although I would prefer to call them ill-informed and wildly inaccurate which could be considered the same thing, but why he seems to **** so many people off, which is what he wanted to know. And the other part was not meant as an attack, just an observation of how he seems to react to others' views. Maybe I worded it somewhat harshly, but I stand by my interpretation of his responses.
Wasn't saying it was harsh. Just that it seemed to be all about Derisor, what he's doing wrong, etc. I didn't think he was complaining about hostility towards himself, but more in general.
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Vhaln
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Posted - 2004.11.05 03:36:00 -
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Edited by: Vhaln on 05/11/2004 03:41:07
Originally by: Nooey
Where did he drift into ad hominem?
I just meant comments that were about the person raising the issue, rather than being about the issue itself.
Originally by: F'nog
I wasn't saying that Derisor's opinions suck, though I guess I do believe that to some extent, although I would prefer to call them ill-informed and wildly inaccurate which could be considered the same thing, but why he seems to **** so many people off, which is what he wanted to know. And the other part was not meant as an attack, just an observation of how he seems to react to others' views. Maybe I worded it somewhat harshly, but I stand by my interpretation of his responses.
Wasn't saying it was harsh. Just that it seemed to be all about Derisor, what he's doing wrong, etc. I didn't think he was complaining about hostility towards himself, but more in general.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.11.05 03:45:00 -
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Yes, on this occasion, he was talking about in general, but in his other posts he asked similar questions when people disagreed with him, so I though I'd kill two birds with one stone and answer both questions here.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.11.05 03:45:00 -
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Yes, on this occasion, he was talking about in general, but in his other posts he asked similar questions when people disagreed with him, so I though I'd kill two birds with one stone and answer both questions here.
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The Failure
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Posted - 2004.11.05 08:30:00 -
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judging from both history and the current state of the world I prefer the childish way of solving disagreements.
Adults kill each other.
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The Failure
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Posted - 2004.11.05 08:30:00 -
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judging from both history and the current state of the world I prefer the childish way of solving disagreements.
Adults kill each other.
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.11.05 11:13:00 -
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I've been a forum&irc ***** since pre puberty.
and my first forum was rather.. well, i'd describe it as '21+ only' flame/content-wise.
so eve forums really don't look any hostile to me,
hell, people are quite friendly and very civilized, relatively. 
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.11.05 11:13:00 -
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I've been a forum&irc ***** since pre puberty.
and my first forum was rather.. well, i'd describe it as '21+ only' flame/content-wise.
so eve forums really don't look any hostile to me,
hell, people are quite friendly and very civilized, relatively.
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:: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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Severe McCald
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Posted - 2004.11.05 11:29:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Nooey
Edited by: Nooey on 04/11/2004 21:26:27
Someone might have already said this, pointed it out. Whatever, I haven't read this thread (EDIT: Ok I have now). Just wanted to quote you Derisor.
Quote One: "Strange though that people cant express their disagreement without being jerks."
Quote Two: "Fortunately you dont set the rules for the forum and fortunately your opinion means absolutely nothing"
Such hypocrisy mate. Lead by example. I'm sorry.
 Completely agree. The very two quotes I was trying to put up yesterday, but forums lagged out.
F'nog - masterful 
As for the Corp and Alliance forum, it is supposed to be IC and most of the people posting are IC at war with one another. Actually think the mods are overdoing the kid glove thing on there tbh (sorry Eris  ).
Nough said.
Severe
And Moses was content to dwell with the man:and he gave Moses Zipporah his daughter. And she bare him a son, and he called his name Gershom:for he said, I have been a stranger in a strange land. |
Severe McCald
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Posted - 2004.11.05 11:29:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Nooey
Edited by: Nooey on 04/11/2004 21:26:27
Someone might have already said this, pointed it out. Whatever, I haven't read this thread (EDIT: Ok I have now). Just wanted to quote you Derisor.
Quote One: "Strange though that people cant express their disagreement without being jerks."
Quote Two: "Fortunately you dont set the rules for the forum and fortunately your opinion means absolutely nothing"
Such hypocrisy mate. Lead by example. I'm sorry.
Completely agree. The very two quotes I was trying to put up yesterday, but forums lagged out.
F'nog - masterful
As for the Corp and Alliance forum, it is supposed to be IC and most of the people posting are IC at war with one another. Actually think the mods are overdoing the kid glove thing on there tbh (sorry Eris ).
Nough said.
Severe
And Moses was content to dwell with the man:and he gave Moses Zipporah his daughter. And she bare him a son, and he called his name Gershom:for he said, I have been a stranger in a strange land. |
Fuse
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Posted - 2004.11.05 12:05:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Iratus Caelestis
If you think this is bad read the Star Wars Galaxies forums.
Not even if you paid me. Well maybe if you buy me a free account ill look at it and kill things with you but then again I may turn on you for having me play that awful game. 
0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |
Fuse
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Posted - 2004.11.05 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Iratus Caelestis
If you think this is bad read the Star Wars Galaxies forums.
Not even if you paid me. Well maybe if you buy me a free account ill look at it and kill things with you but then again I may turn on you for having me play that awful game.
0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |
stinky fecker
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Posted - 2004.11.05 12:07:00 -
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i think there should be an 'anything goes' section of the forum, which the moderators don't have access to
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stinky fecker
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Posted - 2004.11.05 12:07:00 -
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i think there should be an 'anything goes' section of the forum, which the moderators don't have access to
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Vincent Clarke
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Posted - 2004.11.05 12:15:00 -
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Try the Lineage 2 boards, thats full of mature disscussion... though on the downside its all complants on Botters, Farmers and the worse Customer Service in gaming history 
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Vincent Clarke
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Posted - 2004.11.05 12:15:00 -
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Try the Lineage 2 boards, thats full of mature disscussion... though on the downside its all complants on Botters, Farmers and the worse Customer Service in gaming history
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Janna Keio
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Posted - 2004.11.05 12:34:00 -
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Perhaps we can change the words...rather than "carebears" and "pirates", what about "doozers" and "fraggles".
Speaking as a doozer, I like nothing better than building something up. Be it mining, refining, manufacture, whatever. I play Civilisation in the cultured ostrich mode... But I don't mind other people playing the game in "fraggle" mode.
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Janna Keio
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Posted - 2004.11.05 12:34:00 -
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Perhaps we can change the words...rather than "carebears" and "pirates", what about "doozers" and "fraggles".
Speaking as a doozer, I like nothing better than building something up. Be it mining, refining, manufacture, whatever. I play Civilisation in the cultured ostrich mode... But I don't mind other people playing the game in "fraggle" mode.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.11.05 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Janna Keio
Perhaps we can change the words...rather than "carebears" and "pirates", what about "doozers" and "fraggles".
Speaking as a doozer, I like nothing better than building something up. Be it mining, refining, manufacture, whatever. I play Civilisation in the cultured ostrich mode... But I don't mind other people playing the game in "fraggle" mode.
I think Fraggles would be the people in the middle.
Pirates would have to be the Gorgs.
Now, who wants the role of 'The Trash Heap'?
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.11.05 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Janna Keio
Perhaps we can change the words...rather than "carebears" and "pirates", what about "doozers" and "fraggles".
Speaking as a doozer, I like nothing better than building something up. Be it mining, refining, manufacture, whatever. I play Civilisation in the cultured ostrich mode... But I don't mind other people playing the game in "fraggle" mode.
I think Fraggles would be the people in the middle.
Pirates would have to be the Gorgs.
Now, who wants the role of 'The Trash Heap'?
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2004.11.05 16:42:00 -
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Quote:
Now, who wants the role of 'The Trash Heap'?
Wouldn't that be everyone playing minmatar?
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"Remember people: Omber is the biggest evil ever created, DO NOT let it get to you!"
Waagaa Ktlehr, BDCI
I have a blog
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2004.11.05 16:42:00 -
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Quote:
Now, who wants the role of 'The Trash Heap'?
Wouldn't that be everyone playing minmatar?
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"Remember people: Omber is the biggest evil ever created, DO NOT let it get to you!"
Waagaa Ktlehr, BDCI
I have a blog
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