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Mistress Jita	Posted - 2009.11.06 21:36:00 - [1] It's common knowledge that doing ANYTHING to evade concord game mechanics is a violation of the EULA. Stop me if I'm wrong here but isn't concords purpose to stop people from killing other people in highsec? So by suicide ganking, you are using a very simple loophole for concord. Kill before they show up. Even if the attacker just sits there waiting for concord after, their purpose was to go around concord mechanics by simply popping someone as fast as they can. They knew they weren't "allowed" to attack anyone in highsec. They knew concord would show up to pop them. They still did it anyway, for the purpose of circumventing concord mechanics and getting to kill someone in highsec. How is this not considered evading concord? How is warping away from concord, any different than suicide ganking a victim before concord can even get there? To be honest I don't care what the trolls have to say, I'm hoping for a response from a dev so that I can understand CCP's logic behind allowing one customer to ruin another paying customers game experience with no penalty at all. And no there is NO penalty, a suicide ganker INTENDS to be killed by concord.
Toriessian Amarr Void Engineers	Posted - 2009.11.06 21:38:00 - [2] Tank your haulers. Concord is there to punish criminal acts not prevent them. If your willing to deal with the punishment you can commit the crime.
N'tek alar Minmatar	Posted - 2009.11.06 21:39:00 - [3] Originally by: Mistress Jita Stop me if I'm wrong here but isn't concords purpose to stop people from killing other people in highsec? This is why your whole argument is wrong. CONCORD isn't there to stop people from killing in high sec, They are there to punish anyone who attacks other people, wether they succeed in killing or not, by destroying the offenders ship. ------------------------- I'm not shirtless damnit!
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2009.11.06 21:40:00 - [4] I get off when concord blows my ship up... right after I get in the mood by blowing someone else' ship up Originally by: Hamshoe Don't **** down my back and tell me it's raining.
Echo Degnar Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2009.11.06 21:50:00 - [5] If Suicide Ganking was a violation of the EULA, the solution would be simple: Prevent players from activating combat modules when targeting another player's ship in High-Sec (with some bits in the code to allow Corp wars). If it wasn't allowed, it wouldn't be possible. Suicide Ganking is part of the game, not a bug that has existed since launch. --------------- 1) Do CCP, eve-online makers, should make more surver ? I'm your* Alt.**
Grunanca Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity	Posted - 2009.11.06 21:52:00 - [6] CONCORD provides consequence, not protection... This is how it has always been intended to be, else they would prob have fixed it years ago...
Toriessian Amarr Void Engineers	Posted - 2009.11.06 21:53:00 - [7] Originally by: Intense Thinker I get off when concord blows my ship up... right after I get in the mood by blowing someone else' ship up Does that make reading/posting about suicide ganking some odd form of literotica?
Drakkan Koran	Posted - 2009.11.06 22:04:00 - [8] You haven't had your playing experience ruined, you've had it enhanced. Enhanced in a negative way from your current perception, sure. Though isn't it great that such things can be done? Aren't you tempted by the mischief? You've come to talk to 'us'. I think you find 'us' attractive. Come to the darkside, we have cookies. :) As stated, suicide bombing has been around for a long time, if it was considered an exploit then that exploit would have been patched by now.
BuRniZZ Caldari The Warped Corpe The Volition Cult	Posted - 2009.11.06 22:23:00 - [9] Originally by: Echo Degnar If Suicide Ganking was a violation of the EULA, the solution would be simple: Prevent players from activating combat modules when targeting another player's ship in High-Sec (with some bits in the code to allow Corp wars). If it wasn't allowed, it wouldn't be possible. Suicide Ganking is part of the game, not a bug that has existed since launch. Pretty much this. If you're worried about suicide ganking: 1: Use courier contracts. 2: Tank your haulers. 3: Don't use t1 haulers.
Boomershoot Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.11.06 22:36:00 - [10] Originally by: Mistress Jita Stop me if I'm wrong here but isn't concords purpose to stop people from killing other people in highsec? STOP! Hammertime ________________________________________ i'd gladly abuse [hr] if CCP implemented it ________________________________________
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2009.11.06 22:38:00 - [11] Edited by: Barakkus on 06/11/2009 22:40:09 nm, others stated it... anyways Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: Mistress Jita Stop me if I'm wrong here but isn't concords purpose to stop people from killing other people in highsec? STOP! Hammertime
Miyamoto Isoruku Caldari The Phoenix Enclave	Posted - 2009.11.06 22:41:00 - [12] CONCORD provides retribution, not protection.
Slimy Worm	Posted - 2009.11.06 22:44:00 - [13] Originally by: Mistress Jita It's common knowledge that doing ANYTHING to evade concord game mechanics is a violation of the EULA. Evading getting killed by CONCORD is an exploit; killing someone before getting killed by CONCORD is not.
Almrausch Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.11.07 00:53:00 - [14] Originally by: Mistress Jita To be honest I don't care what the trolls have to say i c wot u did there
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2009.11.07 01:00:00 - [15] Originally by: Toriessian Originally by: Intense Thinker I get off when concord blows my ship up... right after I get in the mood by blowing someone else' ship up Does that make reading/posting about suicide ganking some odd form of literotica? Only when there are plenty of tears I can use for lube Originally by: Hamshoe Don't **** down my back and tell me it's raining.
Mistress Jita	Posted - 2009.11.07 01:29:00 - [16] Originally by: Echo Degnar If Suicide Ganking was a violation of the EULA, the solution would be simple: Prevent players from activating combat modules when targeting another player's ship in High-Sec (with some bits in the code to allow Corp wars). If it wasn't allowed, it wouldn't be possible. Warping away from concord is against the EULA, yet people can do it, there's no code to disable a ship that has aggressed someone else in highsec. So just because it CAN BE done, doesn;t mean it's allowed or intended...
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2009.11.07 01:53:00 - [17] Originally by: Mistress Jita Originally by: Echo Degnar If Suicide Ganking was a violation of the EULA, the solution would be simple: Prevent players from activating combat modules when targeting another player's ship in High-Sec (with some bits in the code to allow Corp wars). If it wasn't allowed, it wouldn't be possible. Warping away from concord is against the EULA, yet people can do it, there's no code to disable a ship that has aggressed someone else in highsec. So just because it CAN BE done, doesn;t mean it's allowed or intended... no it's not, as long as they still get you after you come out of warp... though once they show up they do stop you from warping Originally by: Hamshoe Don't **** down my back and tell me it's raining.
Lt Forge Pilots From Honour Aeternus.	Posted - 2009.11.07 02:13:00 - [18] Put your little BPOs in passworded cans, d1ckweeds.. _____________
Jesslyn Daggererux Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.11.07 03:12:00 - [19] 4/10. got some idiots i see. Originally by: CCP Fallout Hola, esta forum es ingles solamente. This forum is English only. Welcome to my lock. Now please, zip your pants. I don't need a show.
Aralieus Amarr Traumark Logistics	Posted - 2009.11.07 03:49:00 - [20] Originally by: Intense Thinker I get off when concord blows my ship up... right after I get in the mood by blowing someone else' ship up Mmm, sweet sweet explosions Moar plz Fortune Favors the Bold!!
Noskill McCheese Minmatar	Posted - 2009.11.07 08:31:00 - [21] Originally by: Mistress Jita ...allowing one customer to ruin another paying customers game experience with no penalty at all. I agree. I'm tired of highsec carebears farming isk 23/7 with zero risk. They have so much isk that they drive up the prices of ships and modules I would like to pvp with, so that they can use them for highsec limousines. CCP, I demand you remove all highsec carebears from the game. After all, they ruin my game experience with their rampant unchecked isk farming. Maybe reduce high security systems to Ammold and whatever ones the other races start at.
Lana's Alt Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2009.11.07 09:27:00 - [22] Good god people... Obvious troll is obvious... Is the trolling quality that low these days that even something so painfully obvious has managed to fool so many? Well done Mistress Jita, I look forward to your next troll post as it is indeed fun reading the srus replies.. Can you try and do one about the covops transport being overpowered in lowsec as I haven't seen that one in a while. ♥ Lana. Istvaan Shogaatsu: As with most such situations the answer is simple: rob them first.
Boomershoot Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.11.07 09:52:00 - [23] Originally by: Lana's Alt Good god people... Obvious troll is obvious... Is the trolling quality that low these days that even something so painfully obvious has managed to fool so many? Well done Mistress Jita, I look forward to your next troll post as it is indeed fun reading the srus replies.. Can you try and do one about the covops transport being overpowered in lowsec as I haven't seen that one in a while. ♥ Lana. in after trolls trolling trolls trolling trolling trolls trolls ________________________________________ i'd gladly abuse [hr] if CCP implemented it ________________________________________
Lana's Alt Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2009.11.07 10:49:00 - [24] Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: Lana's Alt Good god people... Obvious troll is obvious... Is the trolling quality that low these days that even something so painfully obvious has managed to fool so many? Well done Mistress Jita, I look forward to your next troll post as it is indeed fun reading the srus replies.. Can you try and do one about the covops transport being overpowered in lowsec as I haven't seen that one in a while. ♥ Lana. in after trolls trolling trolls trolling trolling trolls trolls We need the song dont we Istvaan Shogaatsu: As with most such situations the answer is simple: rob them first.
Boomershoot Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.11.07 10:54:00 - [25] Originally by: Lana's Alt Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: Lana's Alt Good god people... Obvious troll is obvious... Is the trolling quality that low these days that even something so painfully obvious has managed to fool so many? Well done Mistress Jita, I look forward to your next troll post as it is indeed fun reading the srus replies.. Can you try and do one about the covops transport being overpowered in lowsec as I haven't seen that one in a while. ♥ Lana. in after trolls trolling trolls trolling trolling trolls trolls We need the song dont we MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP FOR GOD SAKE ________________________________________ i'd gladly abuse [hr] if CCP implemented it ________________________________________
Lana's Alt Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2009.11.07 11:02:00 - [26] Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: Lana's Alt Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: Lana's Alt Good god people... Obvious troll is obvious... Is the trolling quality that low these days that even something so painfully obvious has managed to fool so many? Well done Mistress Jita, I look forward to your next troll post as it is indeed fun reading the srus replies.. Can you try and do one about the covops transport being overpowered in lowsec as I haven't seen that one in a while. ♥ Lana. in after trolls trolling trolls trolling trolling trolls trolls We need the song dont we MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP FOR GOD SAKE I've got to admit I do love that song.. Its SLIGHTLY less annoying than the looped one as it actually has a little progression and a tune.. Istvaan Shogaatsu: As with most such situations the answer is simple: rob them first.
Boomershoot Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.11.07 11:23:00 - [27] Edited by: Boomershoot on 07/11/2009 11:24:38 Originally by: Lana's Alt Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: Lana's Alt Originally by: Boomershoot in after trolls trolling trolls trolling trolling trolls trolls We need the song dont we MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP FOR GOD SAKE I've got to admit I do love that song.. Its SLIGHTLY less annoying than the looped one as it actually has a little progression and a tune.. How 'bout a bumper sandwich, boogerlips? heh heh heh ________________________________________ i'd gladly abuse [hr] if CCP implemented it ________________________________________
Whitehound	Posted - 2009.11.07 12:55:00 - [28] CCP should change the security status system, reduce the amount of loss for a violation, but not allow for any rectification of the status. It does it not matter how long it takes to get a save status back. Players will get it back sooner or later. The Hulkaggedon is a perfect example for players who have no use for a save security status. They will welcome such a change (and with lots of shouting). --
Daemonspirit An Android Lust	Posted - 2009.11.07 13:05:00 - [29] Originally by: Mistress Jita It's common knowledge that doing ANYTHING to evade concord game mechanics is a violation of the EULA. Stop me if I'm wrong here but isn't concords purpose to stop people from killing other people in highsec? >STOP< Your Wrong. Either good troll, or idiot. I'm actually leaning towards idiot... ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö
Damien Klesk Antiquated.	Posted - 2009.11.07 15:28:00 - [30] Originally by: Daemonspirit Originally by: Mistress Jita It's common knowledge that doing ANYTHING to evade concord game mechanics is a violation of the EULA. Stop me if I'm wrong here but isn't concords purpose to stop people from killing other people in highsec? >STOP< HAMMER TIME

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