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EVE Radio	Posted - 2004.11.04 14:56:00 - [1] Today, EVE-Radio has been contacted by GSC Solicitors, acting on behalf of their client who believe that EVE-Radio may be in breach of copyright laws. At this stage, we will not be reacting immediately by shutting down our broadcasting operations. We will be contacting our own solicitors who can better advise us of the appropriate course of action to take. I think we were all expecting something like this to happen (albeit a lot sooner), but we hope EVE-Radio will prevail. WeÆll keep you updated on the situation, and we hope we stay on-air. Send us your support, here. You guys have been great, and we hope we survive this, Diaego -------------------- Diaego Manager and Lead Producer EVE Radio - http://www.eve-radio.com [email protected]
EVE Radio	Posted - 2004.11.04 14:56:00 - [2] Today, EVE-Radio has been contacted by GSC Solicitors, acting on behalf of their client who believe that EVE-Radio may be in breach of copyright laws. At this stage, we will not be reacting immediately by shutting down our broadcasting operations. We will be contacting our own solicitors who can better advise us of the appropriate course of action to take. I think we were all expecting something like this to happen (albeit a lot sooner), but we hope EVE-Radio will prevail. WeÆll keep you updated on the situation, and we hope we stay on-air. Send us your support, here. You guys have been great, and we hope we survive this, Diaego -------------------- Diaego Manager and Lead Producer EVE Radio - http://www.eve-radio.com [email protected]
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2004.11.04 15:02:00 - [3] GSC WTFITIHDK!? Convert Stations
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2004.11.04 15:02:00 - [4] GSC WTFITIHDK!? Convert Stations
Leitari	Posted - 2004.11.04 15:03:00 - [5] who's GSC? Here, Only the silent survive.
Leitari	Posted - 2004.11.04 15:03:00 - [6] who's GSC? Here, Only the silent survive.
kurg	Posted - 2004.11.04 15:05:00 - [7] GSC= Giant Sec Can ?? even the paranoid has real enemies...
kurg	Posted - 2004.11.04 15:05:00 - [8] GSC= Giant Sec Can ?? even the paranoid has real enemies...
Diabolikul	Posted - 2004.11.04 15:06:00 - [9] Figures this would have happened sooner or later. You are just going to have to find a way to pay out royalties. Join ASCAP or BMI - but it's not cheap to get a subscription. Sorry to see this happen (and thats coming from someone who still gets the occassional airplay royalty now and then).
Diabolikul	Posted - 2004.11.04 15:06:00 - [10] Figures this would have happened sooner or later. You are just going to have to find a way to pay out royalties. Join ASCAP or BMI - but it's not cheap to get a subscription. Sorry to see this happen (and thats coming from someone who still gets the occassional airplay royalty now and then).
EVE Radio	Posted - 2004.11.04 15:06:00 - [11] Originally by: Leitari who's GSC? GSC are just the name of the solicitors (Who specialise in broadcasting law) who are acting on behalf of a client. -------------------- Diaego Manager and Lead Producer EVE Radio - http://www.eve-radio.com [email protected]
EVE Radio	Posted - 2004.11.04 15:06:00 - [12] Originally by: Leitari who's GSC? GSC are just the name of the solicitors (Who specialise in broadcasting law) who are acting on behalf of a client. -------------------- Diaego Manager and Lead Producer EVE Radio - http://www.eve-radio.com [email protected]
Kalroth	Posted - 2004.11.04 15:08:00 - [13] http://www.gscsolicitors.com/ Basically it's a bunch of lawyer bastarges who represents various record companies. <sig> 0x4B656972657473752C20746865 0x0D0A 0x57616E7420746F206A6F696E20436F7265546563683F 0x4D657373616765204B616C726F7468206E6F7721 </sig>
Kalroth	Posted - 2004.11.04 15:08:00 - [14] http://www.gscsolicitors.com/ Basically it's a bunch of lawyer bastarges who represents various record companies. <sig> 0x4B656972657473752C20746865 0x0D0A 0x57616E7420746F206A6F696E20436F7265546563683F 0x4D657373616765204B616C726F7468206E6F7721 </sig>
drunkenmaster	Posted - 2004.11.04 15:13:00 - [15] This sucks. I hope you guys can pull through this, it would be a real shame to lose Eve-Radio, they've been good for/to the eve populace (mostly). .
drunkenmaster	Posted - 2004.11.04 15:13:00 - [16] This sucks. I hope you guys can pull through this, it would be a real shame to lose Eve-Radio, they've been good for/to the eve populace (mostly). .
Nyphur	Posted - 2004.11.04 15:30:00 - [17] Edited by: Nyphur on 04/11/2004 15:33:30 No offence guys, but I read this post and the link on the forum and I haven't a clue what's going on besides that you're being told you may be in breach of any number of copyright laws for unspecified reasons. A little more information here, guys? I'm sure GSC didn't mail you "HAY GUYS. UR IN BREACH OF COPYRITE LAwS LOLOLOL". Perhaps you could post the mail you actually got here or if not here, on the ER forums. I can lend blind support by saying "I support Eve Radio" but that will help nobody. A hundred, a thousand or even ten thousand guys on a forum screaming "Nooo!" and saying they give you support isn't going to help. I'd rather understand the situation and give any help I can in resolving it than be a part of a giant online complaint about something a company we have absolutely no influence with is doing. What's going on guys? I'd appreciate details more than blind hope.
Nyphur	Posted - 2004.11.04 15:30:00 - [18] Edited by: Nyphur on 04/11/2004 15:33:30 No offence guys, but I read this post and the link on the forum and I haven't a clue what's going on besides that you're being told you may be in breach of any number of copyright laws for unspecified reasons. A little more information here, guys? I'm sure GSC didn't mail you "HAY GUYS. UR IN BREACH OF COPYRITE LAwS LOLOLOL". Perhaps you could post the mail you actually got here or if not here, on the ER forums. I can lend blind support by saying "I support Eve Radio" but that will help nobody. A hundred, a thousand or even ten thousand guys on a forum screaming "Nooo!" and saying they give you support isn't going to help. I'd rather understand the situation and give any help I can in resolving it than be a part of a giant online complaint about something a company we have absolutely no influence with is doing. What's going on guys? I'd appreciate details more than blind hope.
Iratus Caelestis	Posted - 2004.11.04 15:53:00 - [19] That really sucks, in a way it's a compliment though that you have become big enough to pop up on their radio. At a guess they are going to point you into a royalties contract stating that you are free to play songs from X Y and Z Labels in return for x ú a year. They blanket royalty agreements aren't usually as much as you'd think but it could put a nail in the coffin which really sucks. I love my eve radio.
Iratus Caelestis	Posted - 2004.11.04 15:53:00 - [20] That really sucks, in a way it's a compliment though that you have become big enough to pop up on their radio. At a guess they are going to point you into a royalties contract stating that you are free to play songs from X Y and Z Labels in return for x ú a year. They blanket royalty agreements aren't usually as much as you'd think but it could put a nail in the coffin which really sucks. I love my eve radio.
Mirus Crosius	Posted - 2004.11.04 16:09:00 - [21] So who played an Elton John record? He likes his royalties.
Mirus Crosius	Posted - 2004.11.04 16:09:00 - [22] So who played an Elton John record? He likes his royalties.
Rinny Wee	Posted - 2004.11.04 16:11:00 - [23] Edited by: Rinny Wee on 04/11/2004 16:15:34 Nyphur, At the moment we are still wading through a mountain of paperwork and are currently discussing our options. Once we get a bit more concrete information and a better idea of what the actual options are, we will be sure to let everyone know. If you are serious in wanting to help out in more than just lending your verbal (written) support, feel free to email me [email protected] and give me an idea of what you have in mind. Thanks. ____ ♥ Wrangler & Valar fight over me! ♥
Rinny Wee	Posted - 2004.11.04 16:11:00 - [24] Edited by: Rinny Wee on 04/11/2004 16:15:34 Nyphur, At the moment we are still wading through a mountain of paperwork and are currently discussing our options. Once we get a bit more concrete information and a better idea of what the actual options are, we will be sure to let everyone know. If you are serious in wanting to help out in more than just lending your verbal (written) support, feel free to email me [email protected] and give me an idea of what you have in mind. Thanks. ____ ♥ Wrangler & Valar fight over me! ♥
EVE Radio	Posted - 2004.11.04 16:13:00 - [25] Nyphur, we're not asking for people to sign a petition - nor would we expect 5,000 saying they want EVE-Radio to make a blind bit of difference. But, it helps keep us strong, knowing we have you guys behind us. As for the post not being very descriptive, unfortunately, we have been advised not to go in to much detail. We cannot post a copy of the email, as there is no such email. The contact was made by postal mail and telephone call. To give you a better idea, a quote from the letter sent: ôOur client is concerned that use of sound recordings in your service may not be licensed.ö This is the absolute limit of detail I can go in to at this stage. -------------------- Diaego Manager and Lead Producer EVE Radio - http://www.eve-radio.com [email protected]
EVE Radio	Posted - 2004.11.04 16:13:00 - [26] Nyphur, we're not asking for people to sign a petition - nor would we expect 5,000 saying they want EVE-Radio to make a blind bit of difference. But, it helps keep us strong, knowing we have you guys behind us. As for the post not being very descriptive, unfortunately, we have been advised not to go in to much detail. We cannot post a copy of the email, as there is no such email. The contact was made by postal mail and telephone call. To give you a better idea, a quote from the letter sent: ôOur client is concerned that use of sound recordings in your service may not be licensed.ö This is the absolute limit of detail I can go in to at this stage. -------------------- Diaego Manager and Lead Producer EVE Radio - http://www.eve-radio.com [email protected]
Nyphur	Posted - 2004.11.04 16:32:00 - [27] Edited by: Nyphur on 04/11/2004 16:38:15 Edited by: Nyphur on 04/11/2004 16:36:12 Originally by: Rinny Wee Edited by: Rinny Wee on 04/11/2004 16:15:34If you are serious in wanting to help out in more than just lending your verbal (written) support, feel free to email me [email protected] and give me an idea of what you have in mind. Rinny, I'm not a lawyer and I have no resources at my disposal, but I would like to lend whatever help I possibly can. I'll accept it if I can't offer any help more than saying a hearty "Good luck!", but more information on the topic couldn't hurt. Keep everyone informed, I say, and see what we can all come up with. I'm sure one of us can help dig out a solution and I'd certainly like to help. Originally by: EVE Radio Nyphur, we're not asking for people to sign a petition - nor would we expect 5,000 saying they want EVE-Radio to make a blind bit of difference. But, it helps keep us strong, knowing we have you guys behind us. “Our client is concerned that use of sound recordings in your service may not be licensed.” I understand. You have my full support and anything within my power that I think might help, I will do. This may be nothing or it may be giving a little advice from my limited legal persective. It may even be ideas on how to come up with cash if you're charged royalties but still want to continue. Anything I can do, I will. Until more information is brought to light, I will add my name to that long long list of Eve radio supporters which is currently forming. The best of luck to Eve Radio in your endevours, both in Eve and out of Eve. Use of sound recordings in your service.. hmm. The age old question - is an internet radio station still a radio station if it doesn't transmit on Radio Frequency EM bands? I think the answer is, sadly, yes. Internet Radio stations have to abide by radio transmitting standards, but if Eve Radio is based in the US, this may be of interest to you: http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/1433921 It's a news article on a new "Internet Radio Fairness Act", exempting all businesses making a gross revenue below six million US dollars from paying any copyright royalty fees. You may want to ask your lawyers about this Act and see where it is in effect. If it's in effect in the state that Eve radio is based in, you shouldn't have anything to worry about. Otherwise, you may want to move the servers to a state which does enforce this Act. I hope that helps at all.
Nyphur	Posted - 2004.11.04 16:32:00 - [28] Edited by: Nyphur on 04/11/2004 16:38:15 Edited by: Nyphur on 04/11/2004 16:36:12 Originally by: Rinny Wee Edited by: Rinny Wee on 04/11/2004 16:15:34If you are serious in wanting to help out in more than just lending your verbal (written) support, feel free to email me [email protected] and give me an idea of what you have in mind. Rinny, I'm not a lawyer and I have no resources at my disposal, but I would like to lend whatever help I possibly can. I'll accept it if I can't offer any help more than saying a hearty "Good luck!", but more information on the topic couldn't hurt. Keep everyone informed, I say, and see what we can all come up with. I'm sure one of us can help dig out a solution and I'd certainly like to help. Originally by: EVE Radio Nyphur, we're not asking for people to sign a petition - nor would we expect 5,000 saying they want EVE-Radio to make a blind bit of difference. But, it helps keep us strong, knowing we have you guys behind us. “Our client is concerned that use of sound recordings in your service may not be licensed.” I understand. You have my full support and anything within my power that I think might help, I will do. This may be nothing or it may be giving a little advice from my limited legal persective. It may even be ideas on how to come up with cash if you're charged royalties but still want to continue. Anything I can do, I will. Until more information is brought to light, I will add my name to that long long list of Eve radio supporters which is currently forming. The best of luck to Eve Radio in your endevours, both in Eve and out of Eve. Use of sound recordings in your service.. hmm. The age old question - is an internet radio station still a radio station if it doesn't transmit on Radio Frequency EM bands? I think the answer is, sadly, yes. Internet Radio stations have to abide by radio transmitting standards, but if Eve Radio is based in the US, this may be of interest to you: http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/1433921 It's a news article on a new "Internet Radio Fairness Act", exempting all businesses making a gross revenue below six million US dollars from paying any copyright royalty fees. You may want to ask your lawyers about this Act and see where it is in effect. If it's in effect in the state that Eve radio is based in, you shouldn't have anything to worry about. Otherwise, you may want to move the servers to a state which does enforce this Act. I hope that helps at all.
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.11.04 16:39:00 - [29] Quote: To give you a better idea, a quote from the letter sent: ôOur client is concerned that use of sound recordings in your service may not be licensed.ö Sounds to me like the problem is more likely to come from a soundbite in an advert rather than some music? LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.11.04 16:39:00 - [30] Quote: To give you a better idea, a quote from the letter sent: ôOur client is concerned that use of sound recordings in your service may not be licensed.ö Sounds to me like the problem is more likely to come from a soundbite in an advert rather than some music? LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

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