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Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.11.18 21:01:00 - [151] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Zeba Welcome to the console generation that takes whatever the man gives him and licks the plate clean.. At premium prices too. is there dlc out?!?! oh and mw3 should be out for xmas! You naff. I've already pre-ordered mw4 for $90 and it should be out first quarter 2010. They say its rumoured to have an even moar intense 5vs5 multiplay and SIX hours of singleplayer content. Also: Over half a billion is sales in two days for the us and uk market alone.. My god. Now EVERYONE is going to start acting like EA. All gaming is doomed now if the indi devs and online shops start jumping on the OMGPROFITS at the exspence of a proper game bandwagon.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.18 22:52:00 - [152] 5hrs for a shooter is awfully long for something thats heavily scripted and story driven with few repeating scenarios I think the game would have sucked alot more if they tried to strech the current content out with what little time they had and could have done and lost the attention span of the player. I mean its almost like making a movie at this point in gaming, gone are mostly the uninteresting shooters consisting of 80 levels drawn on graph paper, now adays most levels are designed in a comic book or at least they try it this way. Take a look at warcraft and how it destroyed mmo tradition. No more exp grinding its now Quest Grinding, at least with quest grinding you somewhat do something alot different than bashing the same rabbit 80 times in a row. Now its go out bash 20 rabbits then bash this then bash that. More and more games are moving away from static content, the more succesful games do this very well I mean its easy to design a tower defense game that has 1 tower type and 1 enemy type. But trying to add 1 new enemy type and 1 new tower type can make the game a bit more addictive which is why games like Plants vs Zombies and Defense Grid where great tower defense games. Applying this logic to a shooter however is far more difficult due to the fact most enemies and weapons are not the centerpeice of the game. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.11.18 23:02:00 - [153] Fair enough. But riddle me this Batman. Was it worth or even be remotely considered worth $60 for the delivered content?
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.18 23:03:00 - [154] Originally by: Zeba Fair enough. But riddle me this Batman. Was it worth or even be remotely considered worth $60 for the delivered content? It's the most fun Fps I've played in quite a while. Multiplayer regularly has me and my mates ****ing ourselves with laughter, so hell yes from me.
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2009.11.18 23:32:00 - [155] Edited by: Barakkus on 18/11/2009 23:33:39 CoD4 took twice as long to run through than MW:2 I was actually disapointed with the length of the campaign. There are some people out there that like a game to take more than a couple hours to beat still...I blame the ADD generation after mine for the decline in quality of video games...I get rather tired of the fact that most games released in the past couple years, the single player takes 3 or 4 hours to complete...and I'm completely uninterested in online FPS after spending tons of time playing Unreal Tournamnent 10 years ago. It got really boring...I tried Crysis online the other day, and it's pretty much the same crap that Unreal Tournament was...which is the whole reason I don't bother with online shooters...besides if I want to play something online, I'll play an MMO, not a FPS (unless it was an MMO). MW:2 is definitely a GREAT game, I just feel it was a bit short compared to CoD4. ****, my wife even wants to play the CoD series after watching me play it, and she's not one for video games lol.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.11.18 23:39:00 - [156] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 18/11/2009 23:33:14 Originally by: Zeba Fair enough. But riddle me this Batman. Was it worth or even be remotely considered worth $60 for the delivered content? It's the most fun Fps I've played in quite a while. Multiplayer regularly has me and my mates ***ing ourselves with laughter, so hell yes from me. Edit: 49/6 with a Knife-spree, Marathon, Lightweight and Commando Pro. Basically just a running blur shooting across the map knifing people before they can react. So you happily* paid $60 for what rightfully should have been a $20 expansion pack for mw1? Oh wait they nixed dedicated servers and introduced an unrealistic player limit of 18 max so they couldn't sell it as an expansion. Ah well lets charge em $60 and call it a full game. Roffles..
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.18 23:55:00 - [157] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Irida Mershkov Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 18/11/2009 23:33:14 Originally by: Zeba Fair enough. But riddle me this Batman. Was it worth or even be remotely considered worth $60 for the delivered content? It's the most fun Fps I've played in quite a while. Multiplayer regularly has me and my mates ***ing ourselves with laughter, so hell yes from me. Edit: 49/6 with a Knife-spree, Marathon, Lightweight and Commando Pro. Basically just a running blur shooting across the map knifing people before they can react. So you happily* paid $60 for what rightfully should have been a $20 expansion pack for mw1? Oh wait they nixed dedicated servers and introduced an unrealistic player limit of 18 max so they couldn't sell it as an expansion. Ah well lets charge em $60 and call it a full game. Roffles.. Yup, but, I'm not the type of person who tries to devalue someone else's enjoyment based on their own knee-jerk reactions.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.11.19 00:04:00 - [158] It's not a knee jerk reaction. It's one that I have been steadily refining since EA killed off Earth and Beyond and started the whole lets make the devs work on a shoestring budget but spend tens of millions in advertising hype so we can charge even moar than the average AAA game price whilst making even moar profits by regurgitation the same content from last years or even last six months game with a few tweaks and call it a full game. Now its spread to Activision and you just lick the plate clean and go yumm yumm. So yeah I guess I am devauling your entertainment for your own good but another $60 lunchables pack will be along soon for you to eat up in a gulp so its probably wasted effort.
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.19 00:16:00 - [159] Welcome to business. Provided its an entertainment I enjoy, then it is worth my money.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.11.19 00:26:00 - [160] Yea I love how you can just jump straight into a game and start playing. As can be seen in the following presentation...... Linkage At least you can think about how good that 5 hours of SP was, whilst you twiddle your thumbs.

Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.11.19 00:28:00 - [161] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Its ok. Noone ever wants to admit they got scammed en mass. And tbh activision did scam people because they only announced the stuff about multiplayer after everyone and his aimbot had preordered it. Classic EA stunt tbh.
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.19 00:33:00 - [162] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Irida Mershkov Its ok. Noone ever wants to admit they got scammed en mass. And tbh activision did scam people because they only announced the stuff about multiplayer after everyone and his aimbot had preordered it. Classic EA stunt tbh. Ya tis true. Mind you EA are slowly getting better-ish. But it is definitely true the PC users got scammed out of their asses hard, which I didn't support myself.
Crewman Jenkins Caldari Malicious Demi-Lancers	Posted - 2009.11.19 00:42:00 - [163] Originally by: Nova Fox Originally by: Crewman Jenkins Ill not pay for this atrocity I hope this isnt you. Ha, what is he upset about I cant understand him.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.11.19 00:51:00 - [164] Originally by: Mag's Yea I love how you can just jump straight into a game and start playing. As can be seen in the following presentation...... Linkage At least you can think about how good that 5 hours of SP was, whilst you twiddle your thumbs. Ok. There is no way in hell I will buy pc mw2 at any price if that is the normal way you have to get into an online game and its not just his personal isp issues. I mean wtf they made half a freakin billion and rising off this game so give it a real pc multiplayer. Also is this how console fps games are matched? I've never played one so I have no idea.
Teetxe	Posted - 2009.11.19 04:20:00 - [165] The masses are morons. This is nothing new.
Dramaan	Posted - 2009.11.19 04:48:00 - [166] Well expect some to like it. This game is lackin most from the othe call of duty game a stoy you belive in. This game have noting new from cod4:MW. But i whoud not recomend any that likes fps and stoy mordern warfare:2 . The cod:mw2 fans can say whatever they like some will like it, but many will hate it.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.11.19 05:08:00 - [167]
Orion Eridanus Dark Ashes	Posted - 2009.11.19 06:20:00 - [168] Originally by: Reiisha News: Gamespot is deleting bad reviews on MW2 PC. Yay. Freedom of speech: Only if you pay the bills. Originally by: Paulo Damarr That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.19 07:59:00 - [169] Originally by: Zeba Fair enough. But riddle me this Batman. Was it worth or even be remotely considered worth $60 for the delivered content? I have seen better done with less funding (Portal comes to mind) but Im sure MW2 costed alot to produce, I fear for the next generation of games as thier production costs will rival movies. As for the amount of product delivered it is well in the 30-50$ range for the single player content and defeinetly worth every penny of a rental. Replay value of the SP is limited to regathering intel and playing it on a harder difficulty and what few acheivements are involved with that one. There is an extreme amounts of replay value in Special Ops modes which takes some of the best experinces of MW1 and MW2+ and turn them into a co-op experinces, missions from MW1 such as one player mannning the ac-130 while your buddy runs to the extraction point on the ground. The special Ops on hard mode is extremly difficult solo and with a friend and its a great blast none the less, only thing to be desired is an 'infinite' mode on some of the survival missions (capped at 5 waves on most of those type) and only 2 player co-op, but for those completionist this will definetly keep them busy for hours even with a friend. Multiplayer is everything the original MW was on console and then some, the lack of map variety is the only thing wanting hopefully the new content released next year fixes this, it feels far more balanced than it used to be then again we havent been out for a month yet to figure out a 'flavor' of the month. Recent game that I felt ripped off on was ODST at 50-60$ with a very short campaign and nothing much extra on multiplayer or bonus content much and with no match making on firefight makes it meh. Game was easily worth half of the sale value. Production spent I assure was far less than MW2s as they used the halo 3 havok powered engine again. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.11.19 10:56:00 - [170] /me waits till march, when BFBC2 will blow MW2 out of the water.

Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.11.19 15:24:00 - [171] Edited by: Xen Gin on 19/11/2009 15:23:43 Originally by: Nova Fox Originally by: Zeba Fair enough. But riddle me this Batman. Was it worth or even be remotely considered worth $60 for the delivered content? I have seen better done with less funding (Portal comes to mind) but Im sure MW2 costed alot to produce, Not as much as the $25million they spent on marketing. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.11.19 16:28:00 - [172] Edited by: Grimpak on 19/11/2009 16:30:10 Originally by: Xen Gin Edited by: Xen Gin on 19/11/2009 15:23:43 Originally by: Nova Fox Originally by: Zeba Fair enough. But riddle me this Batman. Was it worth or even be remotely considered worth $60 for the delivered content? I have seen better done with less funding (Portal comes to mind) but Im sure MW2 costed alot to produce, Not as much as the $25million they spent on marketing. the marketing costs are rated at at least 3x the development costs. so yes, the sales are only this successful because of marketing, apparently. edit: also, the IW forums seem to be down for over a day already. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2009.11.19 16:52:00 - [173] Originally by: Mag's /me waits till march, when BFBC2 will blow MW2 out of the water. Why? PS3 limitted beta keys now being handed out and in december PC gets open beta ;)
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.11.19 17:06:00 - [174] Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Mag's /me waits till march, when BFBC2 will blow MW2 out of the water. Why? PS3 limitted beta keys now being handed out and in december PC gets open beta ;) because it will, at least, give out the same experience as MW2 plus dedicated servers and mod support? --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.19 17:20:00 - [175] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Mag's /me waits till march, when BFBC2 will blow MW2 out of the water. Why? PS3 limitted beta keys now being handed out and in december PC gets open beta ;) because it will, at least, give out the same experience as MW2 plus dedicated servers and mod support? You didn't just try to degrade BC2 into MW2 territory did you? Oh no you didn't.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2009.11.19 17:28:00 - [176] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Mag's /me waits till march, when BFBC2 will blow MW2 out of the water. Why? PS3 limitted beta keys now being handed out and in december PC gets open beta ;) because it will, at least, give out the same experience as MW2 plus dedicated servers and mod support? Read again ;) Question isnt why get it (i might buy it too, just afraid like BF2 it will be too much centered on vehicles, where you could drive a tank, shoot main gun, and shoot machine gun all at the same time, which just plain sucked imo. And when walking on foot you couldnt destroy helis, those things even survived full hits from anti tank missiles), question is why wait until march when you can get beta already in december?
Doctor Penguin Amarr Sacred Templars	Posted - 2009.11.19 18:00:00 - [177] Edited by: Doctor Penguin on 19/11/2009 18:01:50 Just confirming that I spent ú10 on Team Fortress 2 two years ago and it's still being upgraded. It has a lively community, bajillions of maps and modes and a lot of value because each of the 9 classes are so different to each other. What would that ú10 buy me from IW? A 30 second trailer in black and white? With everyone else ranting about how great it is because they get to see it in colour because they dropped at least ú200 on a console? MW2 is nothing but Counter Strike: Source with regenerating health and upgrade mechanics stolen out of World of Warcraft to make the game last longer. ________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Soundwave Get out Mindstar, or I'll punch you in the ovaries.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.11.19 23:13:00 - [178] Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Mag's /me waits till march, when BFBC2 will blow MW2 out of the water. Why? PS3 limitted beta keys now being handed out and in december PC gets open beta ;) Well a friend is playing the PS3 Beta and he says it's great so far. I didn't actually know it was being released on the PC as a Beta,(never thought to look) thanks for the heads up.
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.11.20 00:01:00 - [179] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Mag's /me waits till march, when BFBC2 will blow MW2 out of the water. Why? PS3 limitted beta keys now being handed out and in december PC gets open beta ;) because it will, at least, give out the same experience as MW2 plus dedicated servers and mod support? You didn't just try to degrade BC2 into MW2 territory did you? Oh no you didn't. ok fine I did a mistake there --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Orion Eridanus Dark Ashes	Posted - 2009.11.20 02:11:00 - [180] Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Mag's /me waits till march, when BFBC2 will blow MW2 out of the water. Why? PS3 limitted beta keys now being handed out and in december PC gets open beta ;) because it will, at least, give out the same experience as MW2 plus dedicated servers and mod support? Read again ;) Question isnt why get it (i might buy it too, just afraid like BF2 it will be too much centered on vehicles, where you could drive a tank, shoot main gun, and shoot machine gun all at the same time, which just plain sucked imo. And when walking on foot you couldnt destroy helis, those things even survived full hits from anti tank missiles), question is why wait until march when you can get beta already in december? If you couldn't destroy helo's with the anti tank class then you were doing it wrong. That's all my brother and I would do in BF2, both go anti-tank and have a blast helo hunting. Originally by: Paulo Damarr That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.



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