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SpaceMagic Amarr The Arrow Project	Posted - 2009.11.09 15:24:00 - [1] So new Call Of Duty Is out today at midnight 00:01 , A lot of me mates are calling me sad for getting up at midnight to go get a game anyone else doing the same?
Kappas. Galaxy Punks	Posted - 2009.11.09 15:56:00 - [2] Already got it through the post on Saturday morning, got my mates 360 version and a pc version, sucks that you can't actually even install the PC version until Steam turns its activation servers on though. __________________
theghosthunter Caldari Phantom Squad Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.09 16:30:00 - [3] I am running off to the shop at midnight to get it... then no dissappointment in not being able to get the game as it being sold out
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.11.09 16:37:00 - [4] Modern Warfare 2 Infinity Ward You're all idiots for giving them money tbh. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Thuranni Queens of the Stone Age Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2009.11.09 16:53:00 - [5] Originally by: Blane Xero Modern Warfare 2 Infinity Ward You're all idiots for giving them money tbh. Modern Warfare 2 is a downgrade of Modern Warfare 1.
Drunk Driver Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.11.09 16:54:00 - [6] Originally by: SpaceMagic So new Call Of Duty Is out today at midnight 00:01 , A lot of me mates are calling me sad for getting up at midnight to go get a game anyone else doing the same? No. It's just another first person shooter in a market full of first person shooters. It doesn't have features people want. A lot of people will not buy it.
JitaBum Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.11.09 17:02:00 - [7] Edited by: JitaBum on 09/11/2009 17:02:52 A pal just got it delivered, he's all excited like a little child. It's pathetic
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.09 17:03:00 - [8] Originally by: Drunk Driver Originally by: SpaceMagic So new Call Of Duty Is out today at midnight 00:01 , A lot of me mates are calling me sad for getting up at midnight to go get a game anyone else doing the same? No. It's just another first person shooter in a market full of first person shooters. It doesn't have features people want. A lot of people will not buy it. But many more will buy it.
Kappas. Galaxy Punks	Posted - 2009.11.09 17:18:00 - [9] Posting in a Blane Trollo thread. __________________
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.11.09 17:41:00 - [10] Originally by: Kappas. Posting in a Blane Trollo thread. but it's true. considering that you can't have clan servers, mods, the removal of "lean" due to "balance issues" (lol), a matchmaking system that promotes the guy who hosts the game in deterrement of the others ("ohey, I has 0ping while everyone has 1000 lulz!11one"), and the inability of having any sort of control about who plays with who, and banning asshats that can actually ruin a match, well, yeah, as someone said in this thread: Originally by: Thuranni Modern Warfare 2 is a downgrade of Modern Warfare 1. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.09 18:19:00 - [11] Anyone who gets this for PC will wonder why they even bothered.
Neyro7830 Gallente The 5th Freedom Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.11.09 18:34:00 - [12] Originally by: Blane Xero Modern Warfare 2 Infinity Ward You're all idiots for giving them money tbh. Quoted for truth. Enjoy your 9v9 DSL hosted ****fest. Oh god how did this get here I am not good with computer
CRIMSON KNIGHTINGALE	Posted - 2009.11.09 18:50:00 - [13] You enjoy waiting in line at midnight to get your game so you can go home and enjoy the pure awesomeness of of playing a xbox on your pc enjoy your 9v9 matches not having a fav server playing with people your own level no mods NO AK47 and worst of all NO MARTY
Kappas. Galaxy Punks	Posted - 2009.11.09 19:12:00 - [14] marty is in it as a deathstreak perk __________________
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.09 19:13:00 - [15] Originally by: CRIMSON KNIGHTINGALE NO AK47 and worst of all NO MARTY What? both of these are still in.
Kiblete Interconstellation Merchant Scheme Black Thorne Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.09 19:37:00 - [16] Originally by: Kappas. Already got it through the post on Saturday morning, got my mates 360 version and a pc version, sucks that you can't actually even install the PC version until Steam turns its activation servers on though. Yes you can, you didn't buy the steam version you bought the retail version.
SpaceMagic Amarr The Arrow Project	Posted - 2009.11.09 19:43:00 - [17] Xbox All the way ...gets ready for flame I do play fps on pc and yes you get all the bonuses of mods more maps and other things but having a xbox is so much more easier and tbh i have more fun, and xbox live servers well ive never had a problem with xboox live, ps only ú100 pound for an xbox now,
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.11.09 20:11:00 - [18] I have COD4 on both Xbox and PC, and buying MW2 for Xbox. To be honest I don't give a crap about dedicated servers, the only mod I would ever care about is if someone disabled fcking bunnyhopping (PS: CCP, I HATE* YOU FOR ALLOWING THIS IN DUST!! HATE YOU WITH A PASSION! ) Mainly, I chose to buy it for xbox because it's more relaxing to lie on my back on the couch playing on my 46" than sitting in front of the PC --- Podlogs: Life in Veto
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.09 20:34:00 - [19] Originally by: Thuul'Khalat I have COD4 on both Xbox and PC, and buying MW2 for Xbox. To be honest I don't give a crap about dedicated servers, the only mod I would ever care about is if someone disabled fcking bunnyhopping (PS: CCP, I HATE* YOU FOR ALLOWING THIS IN DUST!! HATE YOU WITH A PASSION! ) Mainly, I chose to buy it for xbox because it's more relaxing to lie on my back on the couch playing on my 46" than sitting in front of the PC What the hell is bunny-hopping?
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2009.11.09 20:42:00 - [20] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: Thuul'Khalat I have COD4 on both Xbox and PC, and buying MW2 for Xbox. To be honest I don't give a crap about dedicated servers, the only mod I would ever care about is if someone disabled fcking bunnyhopping (PS: CCP, I HATE* YOU FOR ALLOWING THIS IN DUST!! HATE YOU WITH A PASSION! ) Mainly, I chose to buy it for xbox because it's more relaxing to lie on my back on the couch playing on my 46" than sitting in front of the PC What the hell is bunny-hopping? bunny hopping Originally by: Hamshoe Don't **** down my back and tell me it's raining.
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.09 20:59:00 - [21] Originally by: Intense Thinker Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: Thuul'Khalat I have COD4 on both Xbox and PC, and buying MW2 for Xbox. To be honest I don't give a crap about dedicated servers, the only mod I would ever care about is if someone disabled fcking bunnyhopping (PS: CCP, I HATE* YOU FOR ALLOWING THIS IN DUST!! HATE YOU WITH A PASSION! ) Mainly, I chose to buy it for xbox because it's more relaxing to lie on my back on the couch playing on my 46" than sitting in front of the PC What the hell is bunny-hopping? bunny hopping Oh, I was thinking of Dolphin Diving for a moment, cheers.
Bestofworst Gallente	Posted - 2009.11.09 21:34:00 - [22] Not paying for it at all, but I will have fun playing it. ---- My Music Anything I say is only what I think. If you have a problem with me, take it up with me.
LaVista Vista Conservative Shenanigans Party	Posted - 2009.11.09 22:03:00 - [23] Originally by: Kiblete Originally by: Kappas. Already got it through the post on Saturday morning, got my mates 360 version and a pc version, sucks that you can't actually even install the PC version until Steam turns its activation servers on though. Yes you can, you didn't buy the steam version you bought the retail version. All PC versions(Retail and steam) has to be activated and played through Steam.
Kiblete Interconstellation Merchant Scheme Black Thorne Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.09 22:16:00 - [24] Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Kiblete Originally by: Kappas. Already got it through the post on Saturday morning, got my mates 360 version and a pc version, sucks that you can't actually even install the PC version until Steam turns its activation servers on though. Yes you can, you didn't buy the steam version you bought the retail version. All PC versions(Retail and steam) has to be activated and played through Steam. Yes but the version you have (Retail, not Steam) will unlock before the 12th. Only the download from Steam is the 12th.
Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc.	Posted - 2009.11.09 23:55:00 - [25] As a singleplayer experience it will probably be awesome, but the multiplayer... that won't be, and I'm not paying full money for half a game... I'll probably play it, but I doubt I'll pay for the experience.
karma militia	Posted - 2009.11.10 01:49:00 - [26] Edited by: karma militia on 10/11/2009 01:49:18 They took out "lean" as well? How **ing rude. It's like they're testing the market to see what they can get away with. I'm not giving them any money until they patch out these **ed port problems. Originally by:** Corwain The human race is going extinct soon and you all ****ing deserve it.
Gneeznow Minmatar Ship spinners inc	Posted - 2009.11.10 03:24:00 - [27] I was playing it earlier and its really good dunno what you purist crybabies are whining about
Cys Root Gallente Onefix RD	Posted - 2009.11.10 05:17:00 - [28] A lot of LAN centers are boycotting this, including my own. We had 14 copies on preorder and we cancelled them all when they made the "no dedicated servers" BS announcement. We're sticking with COD4 atm...untill something better comes out. We host tournies with real money involved and we can't get away with anything less than total control over the server.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.10 08:40:00 - [29] Originally by: Gneeznow I was playing it earlier and its really good dunno what you purist crybabies are whining about 9v9 matches? No thanks I'll stick with the older game and its 68 player games.
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.11.10 11:28:00 - [30] Originally by: Gneeznow I was playing it earlier and its really good dunno what you purist crybabies are whining about well, it seems a good game for consoles. for pc? it has half of the capabilities of pretty much every game with an online component out there. hell, even the first quake had dedicated server support. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Haxfar Portlaind	Posted - 2009.11.10 11:42:00 - [31] ...But it 's Call of Duty... The buy duty calls!
MooKids Caldari Azure Twilight Engineering	Posted - 2009.11.10 12:16:00 - [32] Originally by: Cys Root A lot of LAN centers are boycotting this, including my own. We had 14 copies on preorder and we cancelled them all when they made the "no dedicated servers" BS announcement. We're sticking with COD4 atm...untill something better comes out. We host tournies with real money involved and we can't get away with anything less than total control over the server. If you have really good computers, running either Vista or Windows 7, may I recommend Shattered Horizon? Its a new multiplayer only game, costs $20 and takes place in zero-G. A bit challenging and takes some time to get used to, but it does have dedicated server support. It does require Steam as well, I hope that isn't an issue. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity.
Kappas. Galaxy Punks	Posted - 2009.11.10 13:04:00 - [33] Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Gneeznow I was playing it earlier and its really good dunno what you purist crybabies are whining about 9v9 matches? No thanks I'll stick with the older game and its 68 player games. 60+ player games were good for leveling up quickly, for actually having any sort of skill they weren't. If people had actually played it and hated it I'd be fine with that, but people just posting out of spite because dedicated servers aren't in it are pretty lame. Fakedit: yes it sucks having no dedicated servers, however the maps that are in it aren't really suited to any more than there are currently in it, especially with the way the new killstreak rewards system works with having to pick up boxes to get them - you'd have no chance. __________________
Brolly Caldari Legion of Anubis	Posted - 2009.11.10 13:32:00 - [34] I'm gonna wait a year and get the GOTY, no point paying ú50+ just for a game
Neyro7830 Gallente The 5th Freedom Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.11.10 13:41:00 - [35] Lets see... 60$ for a game with 5 hours of singleplayer, and 9v9 crapfest MP. No thanks. IW.net is a ****ing joke. Oh god how did this get here I am not good with computer
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.11.10 14:37:00 - [36] Most replies on the Infinity forum so far, seem to be saying 'I told you so' People having connection issues in multiplayer, 60 second waits with 'host migration' and some not even finding games for minutes at a time. Only 1 bolt action sniper, silenced .50 cal (lol), very 'arcade' feel to the game, plus so many obvious signs it's a console port, rather than built for PC. All in all, it's not a patch on CoD 4 MW, so I'm glad I cancelled my pre-order.
Drunk Driver Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.11.10 14:44:00 - [37] Edited by: Drunk Driver on 10/11/2009 14:45:54 Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: Drunk Driver Originally by: SpaceMagic So new Call Of Duty Is out today at midnight 00:01 , A lot of me mates are calling me sad for getting up at midnight to go get a game anyone else doing the same? No. It's just another first person shooter in a market full of first person shooters. It doesn't have features people want. A lot of people will not buy it. But many more will buy it. I don't doubt some of the clueless will buy it. However Infinity Ward has too much justly deserved bad press. Their sales will take a major hit. None of my gaming buddies are going to buy it. There's just too many other good games to play. We don't need to waste our money on a sub par product.
SpaceMagic Amarr The Arrow Project	Posted - 2009.11.10 14:55:00 - [38] well i went and bought it there was about 300 poeple there lol lucky i qued up way before, this game is the game of games, pure awsomness
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.11.10 15:00:00 - [39] Originally by: SpaceMagic well i went and bought it there was about 300 poeple there lol lucky i qued up way before, this game is the game of games, pure awsomness I can feel you're regretting it already it would seem. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.10 16:58:00 - [40] Originally by: Kappas. 60+ player games were good for leveling up quickly, for actually having any sort of skill they weren't. If people had actually played it and hated it I'd be fine with that, but people just posting out of spite because dedicated servers aren't in it are pretty lame. Fakedit: yes it sucks having no dedicated servers, however the maps that are in it aren't really suited to any more than there are currently in it, especially with the way the new killstreak rewards system works with having to pick up boxes to get them - you'd have no chance. 9v9 is even les than the last COD on the x-box... Sure 68 people running around is mad but I like it. Not having dedicated servers just makes cheaters an even bigger issue not to mention the fact that the arsewipes cant be kicked, no ability to make a game last for a while and the crappyness of the connections comming into play that wins people the game before its even started. Single player might be fantastic but the multiplayer part of it is one of the worst I have seen in years.
Motaka Caldari	Posted - 2009.11.10 17:03:00 - [41] Edited by: Motaka on 10/11/2009 17:04:20 Originally by: Mag's Most replies on the Infinity forum so far, seem to be saying 'I told you so' People having connection issues in multiplayer, 60 second waits with 'host migration' and some not even finding games for minutes at a time. Only 1 bolt action sniper, silenced .50 cal (lol), very 'arcade' feel to the game, plus so many obvious signs it's a console port, rather than built for PC. All in all, it's not a patch on CoD 4 MW, so I'm glad I cancelled my pre-order. News flash,most if not all AAA tiles are made for consoles then ported to PC,not the other way round,and i also love the fact that you state its not as good as CoD 4 without actually playing it. I have played it and its a good game,not game of the year good thou that would be Uncharted 2.
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.11.10 17:20:00 - [42] well I made a visit to the IW forums to see how the flames are there, and there's something that made me laugh: Quote: Today I called my local EGgames just to see how sales for the PC were. I live in a city of aprox. 92,000 people, there are 4 EBgames within my city, but the main one(where I buy all of my stuff from) allowed me to talk to the manager. When I asked about MW2 he said sales are steady FOR the XBOX. I asked about the PC, and I will quote him here, he said... "The game is not balanced for play on the PC", I said "Sorry, could you say that again!" and he repeated it!!! ROFLMAO I told him I was going to boycott the PC sales a week ago, and he applauded me for boycotting the game. SO I had to ask "Seriously, how many PC sales" "Zero" as of 10:30 am est the store was open at 8am He said he will call me after 6pm with the tally from all stores in my town!!! "The game is not balanced for play on the PC" Manager @ local EBgames here's the thread. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.10 17:29:00 - [43] The SCAR is a damn machine.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.11.10 22:22:00 - [44] Originally by: Motaka Originally by: Mag's Stuff.. News flash,most if not all AAA tiles are made for consoles then ported to PC,not the other way round,and i also love the fact that you state its not as good as CoD 4 without actually playing it. I have played it and its a good game,not game of the year good thou that would be Uncharted 2. News flash, games are created on a PC/server network for whatever platform. If the Devs do a fine job, then each platform gets it's own dedicated attention to detail. The Devs told us, that MW2 PC version gets 'mouse control, chat and graphics changes' great stuff, I'll get my credit card ready. Oh and where did I say I haven't played it. As you say, it's NOT game of the year, although CoD 4 was. It all comes down to the MP, if I want to play 9v9 console FPS, I'll buy an XBox or PS3.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.11 03:04:00 - [45] Campaign was a fresh ordeal, the bar raised again with this sequel in terms of action and storytelling. Graphics are on par, it mets the desires of the art department and on spot without framerate issues or horrible glitches beyond obvious. Human body physics still needs a little bit more help and the atmosphere presented is excellent for story telling or drivng the pace of combat in multiplayer. Sound is excellent, great musing to motivate the game play though its story. My only complaint now is that your 'avatar' in multiplayer now talks instead of 'HQ: Voice of god' all the time. but its a minor complaint none the less. also running around with a fully automatic shotgun with a silencer is funny. Even though I do have a computer capapble of running Call of duty on it I dont do so as my personal experince with the local dedicated servers that are under 500 ms ping to banned me for being better than the server's owner or playing 'unfairly'. So I basically gave that up on PC versons of alot of games anyways, At least the 360 version usually never lagsd out, find a match within 20 seconds and new host within 10. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.11.11 03:31:00 - [46] Originally by: Nova Fox Campaign was a fresh ordeal, the bar raised again with this sequel in terms of action and storytelling. Graphics are on par, it mets the desires of the art department and on spot without framerate issues or horrible glitches beyond obvious. Human body physics still needs a little bit more help and the atmosphere presented is excellent for story telling or drivng the pace of combat in multiplayer. Sound is excellent, great musing to motivate the game play though its story. My only complaint now is that your 'avatar' in multiplayer now talks instead of 'HQ: Voice of god' all the time. but its a minor complaint none the less. also running around with a fully automatic shotgun with a silencer is funny. Even though I do have a computer capapble of running Call of duty on it I dont do so as my personal experince with the local dedicated servers that are under 500 ms ping to banned me for being better than the server's owner or playing 'unfairly'. So I basically gave that up on PC versons of alot of games anyways, At least the 360 version usually never lagsd out, find a match within 20 seconds and new host within 10. but that's the thing, there is no local servers on MW2. at all. in all versions. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Orion Eridanus Dark Ashes	Posted - 2009.11.11 04:27:00 - [47] Yo Modern Warfare 2, I'm really happy for you and imma let you finish, but World in Conflict was the best soviet/Russian invasion of the US of all time Originally by: Paulo Damarr That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
Myleena	Posted - 2009.11.11 08:12:00 - [48] I think what Infinity have done with MW2 has gone over peoples heads like CCP integrating a console game with PC MMO. Console shooter = 12yr olds running around with aimbots (no skill). P2P multiplayer on PC = 12yr olds running around with aimbots (no moderation). So they have very effectively brought the PC players in line with what console gamers have always done. Bravo! Go them!
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.11.11 10:43:00 - [49] Originally by: Orion Eridanus Yo Modern Warfare 2, I'm really happy for you and imma let you finish, but World in Conflict was the best soviet/Russian invasion of the US of all time of all time --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.11 12:27:00 - [50] Originally by: Nova Fox also running around with a fully automatic shotgun with a silencer is funny. The fact I could silence a SPAS-12 blew my ****ing mind.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.11.11 12:49:00 - [51] Originally by: Myleena I think what Infinity have done with MW2 has gone over peoples heads like CCP integrating a console game with PC MMO. Console shooter = 12yr olds running around with aimbots (no skill). P2P multiplayer on PC = 12yr olds running around with aimbots (no moderation). So they have very effectively brought the PC players in line with what console gamers have always done. Bravo! Go them! With the current generation of consoles i wouldn't be surprised if the real Aimbots and other various **e was already making its way onto Consoles. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by:** CCP Fallout :facepalm:
ViRUS Pottage THE FINAL STAND	Posted - 2009.11.11 13:30:00 - [52] All of you should stfu and stop juding the game based on what your gay little troll friends say. Play the **ing game and stop saying it is because you don't like something in it. I've been playing for about 12 hours now. My opinion? It's better than COD4 ever was (pub wise). No lean? GOOD. Now people cant use lean left bug. 9v9? GOOD. No more 40 people with rpds just mowing down people through 200 walls and massive nade fests. No Dedis? Well, it might not be the best idea, but the matchmaking works pretty damn good. Soon as i click on TDM or whatever gametype I want, I'm matched up with however many players pretty much instantly. For whoever posted that screenshot of everyone with 800 ping, that's just unlucky. Cause I played all day yesterday, and only 3 games I played were even slightly laggy - amd then the host migration kicked in, which works flawlessly. The guns are awesome. Perfectly balanced. Bullet reg is pretty damn good, better than COD4 at times. I've just woke up, so I can't really think of anything else to say, other than sotop judging the game based on screenshots. 70% of people are trying to put the game down just because of no dedis - trust me - it's a good game. ___________ Originally by:** CCP Taera May I have your stuff?
0n 1	Posted - 2009.11.11 13:52:00 - [53] ^^ lol another console 'settle for less' nubbie
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2009.11.11 14:05:00 - [54] Originally by: ViRUS Pottage stuff Any comments on the single player aspect. I won't buy it because of the lol multiplayer downgrade(glad you like, but I like server communities and custom content), but might rent it, if the single player content has some value.
Ealiom Allied Tactical Squadron	Posted - 2009.11.11 14:06:00 - [55] I bought it for the PC yesterday. Installed and played through i think half of the campaign before hitting the multiplayer side of it. Single player game is NOT as good as CoD4 and the multiplayer was good. Matches were all instant. I dont care much for massive 64 player games. Skill quickly goes out the window when winning involves either hiding and shooting at those passing by or running around in 'rage' But again the single player campaign is nowhere near as good as CoD4 so for that and the fact the multiplayer hasn't changed much I have to say CoD4 is better..... so far. I'll likely finish it tonight. Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies. Much better you than I. Blackbird Executioner
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.11.11 14:08:00 - [56] Edited by: Mag''s on 11/11/2009 14:12:40 Originally by: ViRUS Pottage All of you should stfu and stop juding the game based on what your gay little troll friends say. Play the **ing game and stop saying it is because you don't like something in it. I've been playing for about 12 hours now. My opinion? It's better than COD4 ever was (pub wise). No lean? GOOD. Now people cant use lean left bug. 9v9? GOOD. No more 40 people with rpds just mowing down people through 200 walls and massive nade fests. No Dedis? Well, it might not be the best idea, but the matchmaking works pretty damn good. Soon as i click on TDM or whatever gametype I want, I'm matched up with however many players pretty much instantly. For whoever posted that screenshot of everyone with 800 ping, that's just unlucky. Cause I played all day yesterday, and only 3 games I played were even slightly laggy - amd then the host migration kicked in, which works flawlessly. The guns are awesome. Perfectly balanced. Bullet reg is pretty damn good, better than COD4 at times. I've just woke up, so I can't really think of anything else to say, other than sotop judging the game based on screenshots. 70% of people are trying to put the game down just because of no dedis - trust me - it's a good game. I have a response to all that waffle. One of the best and most honest reviews so far. Quote:** We're massive fans of Modern Warfare here. Even though purists and elitists may sneer, we had no problem in awarding a 10/10 for Call of Duty 4, because it was such a terrific effort on console AND PC. If you told me three months ago we would be suggesting PC gamers hold off on buying Modern Warfare 2 I would have thought you're crazy. But if you are buying this game mainly for multiplayer - especially if you're contemplating serious competitive play at a high level - that's exactly what we're saying. The single player story is great, and if your idea of multiplayer is a quick zap with mates maybe an hour or two a week then by all means - it's great for your purposes. However if you're a Counterstrike, Battlefield, ETQW or even a COD4 player looking for a serious competitive platform to move to - best wait. Wait and see if Infinity Ward can implement dedicated server support; failing that wait until early next year to see how Battlefield: Bad Company 2 turns out.
Thuranni Queens of the Stone Age Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2009.11.11 14:23:00 - [57] Originally by: Mag's I have a response to all that waffle. One of the best and most honest reviews so far. Quote: We're massive fans of Modern Warfare here. Even though purists and elitists may sneer, we had no problem in awarding a 10/10 for Call of Duty 4, because it was such a terrific effort on console AND PC. If you told me three months ago we would be suggesting PC gamers hold off on buying Modern Warfare 2 I would have thought you're crazy. But if you are buying this game mainly for multiplayer - especially if you're contemplating serious competitive play at a high level - that's exactly what we're saying. The single player story is great, and if your idea of multiplayer is a quick zap with mates maybe an hour or two a week then by all means - it's great for your purposes. However if you're a Counterstrike, Battlefield, ETQW or even a COD4 player looking for a serious competitive platform to move to - best wait. Wait and see if Infinity Ward can implement dedicated server support; failing that wait until early next year to see how Battlefield: Bad Company 2 turns out. And there we go. Exactly what I was worried about has been realized. If you play on PC, and buy MW2 for the multiplayer, you are wasting your money. I'll be making a "security copy" for singleplayer, but I will not give Infinity Ward a single cent until they address this.
ViRUS Pottage THE FINAL STAND	Posted - 2009.11.11 14:39:00 - [58] Originally by: 0n 1 ^^ lol another console 'settle for less' nubbie I'm not a console player actually. Stop trying to be smart and funny, because you are neither. ___________ Originally by: CCP Taera May I have your stuff?
KingsGambit Caldari Knights	Posted - 2009.11.11 14:42:00 - [59] Edited by: KingsGambit on 11/11/2009 14:43:11 A friend received this yesterday and has had plenty to say about MW2 today. Even excepting the lack of a dedicated server (and thus custom maps and mods) and a max of 8 or 9 max player teams (as opposed to 32 I believe) the game doesn't have in game profiles like CoD4 did. So only one person can actually play the campaign or have a MP profile (with stats, perks, etc). Because it's linked to a steam login, there's absolutely no way two different people can play the same game, even on the same computer. I played and enjoyed CoD4, though no more so than I did MoH back in the day. It was a good game and the MP was fun, albeit annoying (whoever thought up air strikes should be shot) but not best game ever despite it's success and acclaim. I'm not fussed about no. 2, but it seems to be Activision have taken out all the things that seperates a great game from merely a good one. MW2 is a step backwards from it's predecessor in all ways except graphically. It's pretty pathetic, don't know why people will pay activision to let them get away with crap like that. -------------
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.11 14:52:00 - [60] hey at least I can enjoy multiplayer expeince now but xbox live has me spoiled. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
0n 1	Posted - 2009.11.11 16:20:00 - [61] Originally by: ViRUS Pottage Originally by: 0n 1 ^^ lol another console 'settle for less' nubbie I'm not a console player actually. Stop trying to be smart and funny, because you are neither. If you're playing MW2 mp, then I think you'll find it IS console play. Enjoy your new XBox style experience.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2009.11.11 16:20:00 - [62] Originally by: KingsGambit <snip> Because it's linked to a steam login, there's absolutely no way two different people can play the same game, even on the same computer.<snip I guess this means there won't be the option to rent or borrow the game either. Is there anything about this game, that is an improvement over the previous one?
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.11 16:23:00 - [63] Tied between Estate and Naval Base as my favourite maps, with the first being great for Domination. Managed to tie up the enemy team into the manor house whilst I was in an AC-130. Result was just pounding the living **** out of the building as they tried to get out.
Neyro7830 Gallente The 5th Freedom Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.11.11 16:38:00 - [64] Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Originally by: KingsGambit <snip> Because it's linked to a steam login, there's absolutely no way two different people can play the same game, even on the same computer.<snip I guess this means there won't be the option to rent or borrow the game either. Is there anything about this game, that is an improvement over the previous one? the single player is kind of fun, way too much going on, over stimulation I guess. can't comment on MP as I refuse to subject myself to such a ****ty system. If I wanted that I'd use gamespy arcade AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... >_> Oh god how did this get here I am not good with computer
grypher	Posted - 2009.11.11 21:53:00 - [65] An interesting read regarding Bobby Kotick, Activision CEO... www.geeks.co.uk/7282-activisionÆs-bobby-kotick-hates-developers-innovation-cheap-games-you
Brujo Loco Amarr Brujeria Teologica	Posted - 2009.11.11 21:59:00 - [66] Dont fall for the hype ... that's all. --- Viva VENEZUELA!!! Archipelago Theory
hired goon	Posted - 2009.11.11 22:24:00 - [67] Why is everyone so excited about Mech Warrior 2? Is it a re-release? In that case I'm going to get it right now! Incidentally, I just found out the latest and final patch for Battlefield 2 was released recently and it includes ALL EXPANSIONS COMPLETELY FOR FREE!! -omg-
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.11.12 00:20:00 - [68] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MdSwgKtSYg Aww and it took less than 36 hours to make. Maybe the admins should have... oh wait. Maybe the players should have votekick... oh wait. Enjoy your hack free, VAC secured, IWnet controlled multiplayer! ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.11.12 00:34:00 - [69] Originally by: Xen Gin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MdSwgKtSYg Aww and it took less than 36 hours to make. Maybe the admins should have... oh wait. Maybe the players should have votekick... oh wait. Enjoy your hack free, VAC secured, IWnet controlled multiplayer! Quote: This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Activision Games Inc. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.12 00:38:00 - [70] Originally by: grypher An interesting read regarding Bobby Kotick, Activision CEO... www.geeks.co.uk/7282-activisionÆs-bobby-kotick-hates-developers-innovation-cheap-games-you Yeah Kotick is a *****.
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.11.12 00:51:00 - [71] Edited by: Xen Gin on 12/11/2009 00:51:28 Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Xen Gin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MdSwgKtSYg Aww and it took less than 36 hours to make. Maybe the admins should have... oh wait. Maybe the players should have votekick... oh wait. Enjoy your hack free, VAC secured, IWnet controlled multiplayer! Quote: This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Activision Games Inc. The Lawyer mobile is quick today. Sufficed to say it was a video of a MW2 MP game from the view of the hacker. Give it a few minutes it'll be back up. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Leina Kubyeshev Vengeance Imperium Financial Federal Republic	Posted - 2009.11.12 05:05:00 - [72] ur all idiots supporting infinity ward.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.12 07:50:00 - [73] Well today I experinced getting hit by a javlin... Ow... seriously... ow. It was well worth it though as it sent me flying across the map though and brought a whoa or laughs out of alot of people in the match that watched me fly overhead as I slammed onto the bunker wall. At least it looked pertty as I followed it up and watched it land on me. I've noticed they brought back a classic map from CoD:2 the one with the hedge in the center some tunnels and large open fields. Dont have a favorite map yet or a weapon yet, still learning all the neat stuff. I do like the throwing knives though, takes some skill to hit a player far away and getting headstabs with it even more difficult. Also going around smacking people to death with a riot shield is a blast. I do have an SMGer with lightweight and marathon, and boy is he fast I hate using silenced sniper rifels and if it wherent for the rediculous number of addon challenges I wouldnt be using it as much. It seems they fixed grenade spamming, heck even noobtubing isnt as common anymore despite both of them being easily being overpowered when comboed with Scavenger. Not sure why there is a cutdown on these. I also think that alot of the players that get the ac-130 are noobs and dont swap weapons around for max effect. Anyone seen the Tactical Nuke Kill steak bonus go off yet though? The highest I got in a care package was the chopper gunner which was a nice 30 kills. Great thing about the linked games on steam though is that if a person is caught cheating theyll have to buy another copy of the game again. Aimbots rarely exist on consoles because its so damed easy to report a player and blam, thier credit card is banned and they lose thier entire online account and all previous perchases they've made online as far as live on 360 is concerned. At least on the 360 I can play anyway I want to now and they can report me for 'cheating' or 'unfair' and not ever get banned unlike the dedicated servers previous game had where the servers' owners gained a dislike for me and banned me on them. I mean its not my fault they make a mod I take full advantage of and should have probably spent time fixing/balancing it instead of just banning players who abused the mod to thier advantage. Also the number of matches available for me to play at lag free are numbered about 4000% more than the dedicated servers that I could have connected to on previous games. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
Myleena	Posted - 2009.11.12 09:14:00 - [74] Originally by: Myleena I think what Infinity have done with MW2 has gone over peoples heads like CCP integrating a console game with PC MMO. Console shooter = 12yr olds running around with aimbots (no skill). P2P multiplayer on PC = 12yr olds running around with aimbots (no moderation). So they have very effectively brought the PC players in line with what console gamers have always done. Bravo! Go them! Day 1 and there's already an wallhack aimbot doing the rounds (see youtube, but Activision are having the videos deleted under copyright claims). Lulz... that's what unmoderated P2P multiplayer gives you.
Ratchman	Posted - 2009.11.12 10:38:00 - [75] I don't quite understand why there is such a clamour for this game. Why do people have to get it within minutes of release? Why are people so desperate that they must possess it as quickly as possible? Will they die if they don't get it ASAP? Personally, I would wait until the furore dies down a little before I bought a highly-anticipated game. Especially now we are starting to see surreptitious malware creeping onto official releases (like SecureROM). As to the game itself, I will admit to knowing next to nothing about it. Frankly, I have become rather bored of FPS games, as they have changed very little since the days of Doom. A couple have caught my eye, such as Bioshock and Crysis, but generally, they tend to be repetetive and full of the most appalling macho-talk. It's no wonder that these games are seen as being marketed towards hormonally-challenged teenagers. Is this game any different? Or is it still full of "I'm just so **ing hard. Raaar" gun-** wish-fulfilment? Don't get me wrong. If it's put together well, I will probably enjoy it. I just think there's too many mediocre FPS.
LaVista Vista Conservative Shenanigans Party	Posted - 2009.11.12 10:43:00 - [76] I have to admit that I'm having a blast with MW2.
karma militia	Posted - 2009.11.12 10:45:00 - [77] well, it's definitely not a mediocre FPS. It is probably polished and engaging, but its also probably not a mindblowingly original piece of art. Anyway, IW seem to think it's good enough to let them get away with knowingly screwing their hardcore PC fans. Originally by: Corwain The human race is going extinct soon and you all ****ing deserve it.
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.12 11:26:00 - [78] Quote: I also think that alot of the players that get the ac-130 are noobs and dont swap weapons around for max effect. I tend to let off a shell or two depending on the weapon and switch immediately, cover the god damn map with AC-130 fire, a lot of people tend to wait and see whether the shell hits or not, which is a bit of a waste imo. I want to unlock the ACR but got a few more ranks to get it, the SCAR is more or less my main choice of weapon and I'm experimenting with the FAMAS but not really a huge fan of burst weapons, and I'm a bit iffy on the SMGs in this one, although I do love my UMP. Oh, and Shotguns are actually useful now. Especially the SPAS-12. A question: can you actually shoot whilst using a riot shield without putting it behind your back? I was under the impression that was what the Machine Pistols were for, although a good tactic especially on the rooftop level (which looks like it's come straight out of Rainbow 6) is to get one mate with a Riot Shield and advance forward, with the other tailing behind and picking off people who shoot the shield user, they're bullet magnets but people go for it anyway, and both players get points for it.
Reiisha Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.12 13:30:00 - [79] Originally by: Thuranni Originally by: Blane Xero Modern Warfare 2 Infinity Ward You're all idiots for giving them money tbh. Modern Warfare 2 is a downgrade of Modern Warfare 1. QFT The sad part is that they're going to blame pirates for the dramatically low PC sales. "Our game is infallible and of the highest quality. The only explanation for the low sales figures on the PC platform is piracy. It is impossible that people don't buy the game because it's bad, because the game is absolutely perfect." I'm about this close to just going to their offices and going on a rampage. "If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.11.12 13:34:00 - [80] Originally by: Reiisha Originally by: Thuranni Originally by: Blane Xero Modern Warfare 2 Infinity Ward You're all idiots for giving them money tbh. Modern Warfare 2 is a downgrade of Modern Warfare 1. QFT The sad part is that they're going to blame pirates for the dramatically low PC sales. "Our game is infallible and of the highest quality. The only explanation for the low sales figures on the PC platform is piracy. It is impossible that people don't buy the game because it's bad, because the game is absolutely perfect." I'm about this close to just going to their offices and going on a rampage. If you do, Bonus points for screaming out "THIS IS MY CALL OF DUTY, INFIDELS!" _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Gehnster Gallente RED SUN RISING	Posted - 2009.11.12 22:03:00 - [81] Originally by: Thuranni Originally by: Mag's I have a response to all that waffle. One of the best and most honest reviews so far. Quote: We're massive fans of Modern Warfare here. Even though purists and elitists may sneer, we had no problem in awarding a 10/10 for Call of Duty 4, because it was such a terrific effort on console AND PC. If you told me three months ago we would be suggesting PC gamers hold off on buying Modern Warfare 2 I would have thought you're crazy. But if you are buying this game mainly for multiplayer - especially if you're contemplating serious competitive play at a high level - that's exactly what we're saying. The single player story is great, and if your idea of multiplayer is a quick zap with mates maybe an hour or two a week then by all means - it's great for your purposes. However if you're a Counterstrike, Battlefield, ETQW or even a COD4 player looking for a serious competitive platform to move to - best wait. Wait and see if Infinity Ward can implement dedicated server support; failing that wait until early next year to see how Battlefield: Bad Company 2 turns out. And there we go. Exactly what I was worried about has been realized. If you play on PC, and buy MW2 for the multiplayer, you are wasting your money. I'll be making a "security copy" for singleplayer, but I will not give Infinity Ward a single cent until they address this. I guess you missed the part of that article where it said its not good for competitive players but for casual gamers (which is what most of the players would be considered) its a good game. Its ok, I forgive you, stuff and things get hard to read when you become narrow minded.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.12 23:35:00 - [82] Well you have to consider game creation is beginning to rival movie production costs if there isnt enough sells on a platform persistently theyll skip over it. Lately PC has been the blunt end of low sales, piracy isnt the only blame but the unpopularity of it in these tough economic times. You will have a hard time finding a computer capable of playing mordern warfare 2 smoothly for under 200$, so it almost begs the question why invest in something that you will not get returns for. PC gaming is dying and pc gamers are having a hard time coping with the fact or are in denial. Only two bastions PC games have left are RTS and MMORPGS and it wont be long before somone does an RTS game on console similar to what Halo did for FPS's. MMOs are eventual, maybe not a big upsing of them this generation (Final Fantasy 14 for ps3/360/pc the only one slated on the list of possibly finishing) of consoles but next generation seems more likely to happen. No you cannot shot with the shield up in front, you can toss grenades still but i usually have the blast suit on for the primary equipment. Great thing about the riot shield is that it continues to function if you stow it on your back, but only for incomming rounds from behind. Riot shields can also dampen the effects of explosions and have bullets richocette off of it which can still potentially kill a player. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.11.13 13:05:00 - [83] Edited by: Mag''s on 13/11/2009 13:06:33 Originally by: Gehnster Originally by: Thuranni Originally by: Mag's Stuff And there we go. Exactly what I was worried about has been realized. If you play on PC, and buy MW2 for the multiplayer, you are wasting your money. I'll be making a "security copy" for singleplayer, but I will not give Infinity Ward a single cent until they address this. I guess you missed the part of that article where it said its not good for competitive players but for casual gamers (which is what most of the players would be considered) its a good game. Its ok, I forgive you, stuff and things get hard to read when you become narrow minded. I guess I missed the part where it said it was right and fair, that I had to alter my gaming style for casual players. It's ok, I forgive you. Stuff and things get hard to comprehend when you become narrow minded.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.13 13:28:00 - [84] Im not narrow minded, I know that activision knows there just isnt money in PC gaming anymore, its a waste of money why conintue supporting it, Im surprised there was a pc version at all this time around. BTW having fun scaring people with the riot shield its funny to see people run away from you when you sit there and mock them with it. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
pipvac The Clever-Dumb Balance Restored	Posted - 2009.11.13 13:58:00 - [85] Just completed the single player campaign. What a rush ! Loved every second of it. Great visuals, some lovely set pieces, good story, IMO. My only complaint is that it was a little short. Took me about 5h 30m to complete, and I was taking my time on some levels, just enjoying the carnage. Multiplayer sux monkeys balls though, and would probably make the baby jesus cry. Desperately seeking originality since the first "can I have your stuff" since 2003.
karma militia	Posted - 2009.11.13 15:02:00 - [86] suppose i better regurgitate this here.... http://**youinfinityward.com/ probably wont work, but it starts with a 4 letter "F" word. Originally by:** Corwain The human race is going extinct soon and you all ****ing deserve it.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.13 15:16:00 - [87] best thing I love about multiplayer is the fact there is no such thing as absolution unlike alot of other supposive high comptition games. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
Gehnster Gallente RED SUN RISING	Posted - 2009.11.13 16:25:00 - [88] Edited by: Gehnster on 13/11/2009 16:29:11 Originally by: Mag's Edited by: Mag''s on 13/11/2009 13:06:33 Originally by: Gehnster Originally by: Thuranni Originally by: Mag's Stuff And there we go. Exactly what I was worried about has been realized. If you play on PC, and buy MW2 for the multiplayer, you are wasting your money. I'll be making a "security copy" for singleplayer, but I will not give Infinity Ward a single cent until they address this. I guess you missed the part of that article where it said its not good for competitive players but for casual gamers (which is what most of the players would be considered) its a good game. Its ok, I forgive you, stuff and things get hard to read when you become narrow minded. I guess I missed the part where it said it was right and fair, that I had to alter my gaming style for casual players. It's ok, I forgive you. Stuff and things get hard to comprehend when you become narrow minded. lol, noone is saying you have to. but what it is saying is that the game wasn't designed with you in mind. there is no altering of gaming style when really you just shouldn't buy the game. As for PC gaming dying. How so? Are there examples you can present? You say we only have RTS and MMOs left. Really? I didn't realize Borderlands isn't out on PC, all the Half-life games, TF2, Left4Dead 1 and 2, Assassins Creed, Fallout 3, Crysis. Ever used Steam before? I own like 50 games on it and most of them are from the last couple years.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.11.13 22:55:00 - [89] Originally by: Gehnster lol, noone is saying you have to. but what it is saying is that the game wasn't designed with you in mind. there is no altering of gaming style when really you just shouldn't buy the game. I haven't bought the game, although I have played the SP. I was jesting and playing with your words, but my point was, why could they have given us both? Dedi's for the 'hardcore' gamers and IW.Net for the noobies. Originally by: Gehnster As for PC gaming dying. How so? Are there examples you can present? You say we only have RTS and MMOs left. Really? I didn't realize Borderlands isn't out on PC, all the Half-life games, TF2, Left4Dead 1 and 2, Assassins Creed, Fallout 3, Crysis. Ever used Steam before? I own like 50 games on it and most of them are from the last couple years. He's talking out of his rear tbh, if PC gaming was dying, then why would Nvidia/AMD ATi waste their time and money with new cards year in year out. PC gaming is far from dead or dying. Ignorance is bliss.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.14 04:31:00 - [90] Because Nvidia and AMD(ATi) make chips that do things other than just draw polygon triangles on the screen, video cards are just as important for playing video games as it is making them or movies and the sort. Also I challenge you to goto your local multiplatform gamestore then compare the floor space dedicated to each platform. I think its sad that the 4 in my area have more Computer Applications than games. On the only isle for computer stuff. PC games have been dying they been dying for the last 5 years. Shooters dont call PC home anymore, and seriously havent been since halo did it right (golden eye was a joke in terms of control in retrospect, hell even MoH barrows the same control scheme now) in a world where quick reaction responses aside from aiming, having 20 different keys dont help at all. Casual games? They drifted anywhere and found a profitable home on consoles. Simulator games? Mostly far and few between the next one I see worthwile in the horizion is Mechwarrior 5, unfoutunate how there will be a console version of that as well... A proven on the xbox original a simulator experince is highly possible with the game that did it called Steel Battalion with its 120 button three part simulator controller. RPGs Most RPG's interfaces are so simple they can are found on consolues just as easily. Most of the popular RPGs found on PC have been found on Consoles. MMORPGs are doable on consoles considering that both ps3 and xbox can support usb keybaords and Im sure it wouldnt be to hard to get a firmware update for a mouse too, there is just issues of networking. Im sure the next geration of consoles will begin to start picking this up, there have been strides for mmorpg consoles in the last two generations the largest one noted is FFXI with its cross console and soon Dust514 with the hybridization cross consoling. The last two bastions of PC games out there are indeed RTS and MMOs for now, RTS games are far to complicated now to do a properly but its not stopping them from trying and MMOs becuase well current harddrives are not large enough. Then you have to consider the current economy, video game companies are businesses they to have to make money, and follow the recommendations of thier investors their primary customer (yeah your tritary in the totem pole) and try to turn profit, so when these investors think that video pc game pirates are out there stealing thier money they're just not going to give them the option to steal it in the ifrst place, if you think a company is greedy maybe you should look at thier investors and im sure none of the ones on the board are video game enthusasist to begin with. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.11.14 05:19:00 - [91] Originally by: Nova Fox PC games have been dying they been dying for the last 5 years. Traditional store distributed pc games have been dying. Just check any of the current online shops like steam or impulse and you will see pages and pages of brand new pc games from both big name developers and indy devs that have really good games but could never convince a major publisher to take the risk of pressing and distributing the disks. I don't even bother with regular stores anymore and just buy from whatever online shop is selling it the cheapest.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.14 07:29:00 - [92] Edited by: Nova Fox on 14/11/2009 07:30:21 Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Nova Fox PC games have been dying they been dying for the last 5 years. Traditional store distributed pc games have been dying. Just check any of the current online shops like steam or impulse and you will see pages and pages of brand new pc games from both big name developers and indy devs that have really good games but could never convince a major publisher to take the risk of pressing and distributing the disks. I don't even bother with regular stores anymore and just buy from whatever online shop is selling it the cheapest. Last thing I bough from steam was Cogs over a month ago. None the less that one thing that has changed lately is the rise of indi developers but they're not a pc only phenom, theyre on all platforms. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
N'tek alar Minmatar	Posted - 2009.11.14 08:00:00 - [93] Originally by: Nova Fox Edited by: Nova Fox on 14/11/2009 07:30:21 Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Nova Fox PC games have been dying they been dying for the last 5 years. Traditional store distributed pc games have been dying. Just check any of the current online shops like steam or impulse and you will see pages and pages of brand new pc games from both big name developers and indy devs that have really good games but could never convince a major publisher to take the risk of pressing and distributing the disks. I don't even bother with regular stores anymore and just buy from whatever online shop is selling it the cheapest. Last thing I bough from steam was Cogs over a month ago. None the less that one thing that has changed lately is the rise of indi developers but they're not a pc only phenom, theyre on all platforms. Yes, Clearly because you haven't bought anything for a WHOLE MONTH from steam, PC gaming is dying!11! ------------------------- I'm not shirtless damnit!
Dramaan	Posted - 2009.11.14 08:26:00 - [94] This is not good game and why is so short game? The story urgh where did they get so horibe story form? And you get send from difrent places in world so many times that you wonder is this realy helping or is side mission. Best bet buy Gosth Recon There you get good fps game good story and you feel like you doing difrens only negative is the gfx but realy good game that is worth the money.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2009.11.14 11:20:00 - [95] Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 14/11/2009 11:26:07 Heh I guess them having made a lazy ass copy of the previous game has some benefits. It seems they just altered the original code, so all the things required to use dedicated servers, console and lean is still part of the program. From reading about the few mods trying to get it working, it seems workable, but IW is threatening some of them with legal action if they don't stop the development. I don't think that will stop people from making such a mod, but the guy who does it will propably want to remain anonymous.
AlleyKat The Unwanted.	Posted - 2009.11.14 11:22:00 - [96] I have the first game on PC. It was good in parts and I think I got my monies worth, but this new game...doubt I'll get it until it drops in price, which could be quite a while given that it's gonna be more popular than toast. The game I'm really waiting for is BATTLEFIELD III - just knowing the game is on the way is awesome, before mentioning the facts; PC exclusive...Frostbite 2 game engine...DX11...DICE on-board...destructible environment. It should be the second coming of multi-player fps...fingers crossed. AK EVE-ONLINE VIDEO-MAKING TUTORIALS
Xanos Blackpaw Amarr Splinter Pack	Posted - 2009.11.14 11:31:00 - [97] I think i might get it in half a year or so if my computer can handle it. Then the price have gone down and i want to play through the singleplayer. I rather liked it in the first game. ________________________________________________ Tau - Yeah we suck in close combat. To bad you will never get there. For the greater good!! Quote: "I love Australia! Our spiders have health bars.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.14 11:58:00 - [98] Edited by: Nova Fox on 14/11/2009 12:00:36 Originally by: N'tek alar Yes, Clearly because you haven't bought anything for a WHOLE MONTH from steam, PC gaming is dying!11! Let me rephrase that, COGs the only thing I have ever bought from steam. Ghost Recon the first one, was probably the last PC shooter I bought for PC and I'll agree with PC users here, consoles bastardized that game's sequels. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
Gartil	Posted - 2009.11.14 12:16:00 - [99] I tried a "demo" version of it, and the entire singleplayer campaign took me a little under 5 hours to complete, now you do have the spec ops bite size missions, but they're not that hot. So since multiplayer is kinda sucky. You're paying 50 euros or so for 5 hours of gaming.... not exactly a good deal.
Captian Conrad Minmatar Empyrean Warriors	Posted - 2009.11.14 12:27:00 - [100] Originally by: Bestofworst Not paying for it at all, but I will have fun playing it. hehe, this
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.11.14 15:31:00 - [101] Originally by: Nova Fox Last thing I bough from steam was Cogs over a month ago. None the less that one thing that has changed lately is the rise of indi developers but they're not a pc only phenom, theyre on all platforms. None is disputing the fact that console are a massive part of the gaming community, but to say PC gaming is dying because retail stores have small areas for it, is frankly stupid. You may not PC game as much now, but that doesn't mean many others don't. I, quite honestly, find console gaming to be dull and moronic, filled with teenagers and bad language. As far as buying games is concerned, I cannot remember the last time I bough a game from a retail store in the street. All my games are bough on-line from either steam or play.com, depending on the price. Also I'm quite aware the Nvidia /AMD ATi make other things than Gaming cards, but graphics cards are a massive part of their industry. Hence why they get so much support and new cards are released on a regular basis.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.15 04:51:00 - [102] Piracy isnt limited to PC of course, but on consoles its alot easier to make that 300$ investment locked out of all the offical stuff. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
Vaerk One Amarr Red Federation	Posted - 2009.11.16 01:18:00 - [103] Originally by: 0n 1 ^^ lol another console 'settle for less' nubbie wow, an actual fanboy.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.16 05:10:00 - [104] currently running around dual weilding shotguns and when asked why I said 'to make things fair' Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
Crewman Jenkins Caldari Malicious Demi-Lancers	Posted - 2009.11.16 10:27:00 - [105] Ill not pay for this atrocity
Reiisha Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.16 14:00:00 - [106] Originally by: Nova Fox PC games have been dying they been dying for the last 5 years. They have been dying for over 30 years now, though the "console vs pc" gaming argument has only truly begun to raise it's head above the ***pool since the playstation 1. PC games won't be dying any time soon. The PC is the primary platform for new technologies aswell as the primary platform to go online on, despite what MS execs would have you think. A console is static, and while it serves to make developers use every inch of hardware they're given, true progress is only made on the PC. If there were no PC gaming we'd all still be playing Double Dragon in glorious 320x200 pixels and 256 colors, since there would be no incentive to improve the hardware, and as a result, gameplay possibilities. Do i even have to mention mods? And lets not gloss over the most important thing: Here you are, saying PC games are dying while you and 300,000 other people are shelling out $15 a month to play just 1 game online, a game which is a pc exclusive through and through. "If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"*
MaxPower 519 Gallente Damage Distribution Incorporated	Posted - 2009.11.16 14:44:00 - [107] beat the game on Regular took about 4 hours.. Tried Hardened took about 5 hours.... now I'm on Veteran and it wont take more then 6 hours... the single player is ok and nothing more just ok... cant play online yet because I didn't buy the game :) not wasting my money on this fail boat! The thing that ****es me of the most is that there is no leaning to the left/right its all strafe all over the map... its rather gay! Now I wait for the Haxxorz to come out with a online crack with dedicated servers :)
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.16 16:33:00 - [108] Wish the single player was a bit longer, I'm two missions from the end apparently but damn it's very fun. That said multiplayer is awesome. Been having some good games with EVE players on the 360, brofist to lordswift1 especially.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2009.11.16 21:55:00 - [109] It didn't take that long before dedicated servers and the rest got done. Not the most flattering example of what is possible, but an example of getting rid of the initial constraints. Linkage
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.16 23:13:00 - [110] and that one example you showed is very along the lines of the 12yr old player wants. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
Bestofworst Gallente	Posted - 2009.11.16 23:16:00 - [111] Originally by: Nova Fox and that one example you showed is very along the lines of the 12yr old player wants. Sometimes a server to just **** around and have fun with is great, especially ina ging games like TF2 and COD 4. The video was more of a demonstration that they CAN modify the servers. ---- My Music Anything I say is only what I think. If you have a problem with me, take it up with me.
Laciter	Posted - 2009.11.16 23:41:00 - [112] I'm still waiting for the next Rainbow Six installment.
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.11.17 00:06:00 - [113] Originally by: Laciter I'm still waiting for the next Rainbow Six installment. Rainbow Six: Town just south of Vegas, about 32 miles away? ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
MooKids Caldari Azure Twilight Engineering	Posted - 2009.11.17 05:50:00 - [114] DEDICATED SERVERS FOR MODERN WARFARE 2! The only catch, it isn't officially supported since hackers got access to the console and were able to set up the dedicated server support themselves. No response from IW or Activision yet, this should be interesting. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity.
Ella C'Tronix	Posted - 2009.11.17 07:55:00 - [115] I had the opportunity to play COD MW2 for 3 days at release. I must say - I was pretty appalled that a modern game with such strong sales and so much hype was released with HORRID graphics, a campaign that can be beat in 2 hours and multiplayer featuring the most boring maps ever created for an FPS multiplayer experience (with possibly one or two exceptions). I'm glad I didn't buy it without trying it. On the positive side, there were some cool things they did with the story, some neat character reveals and action sequences. I'd have been a lot more content if it was premium DLC content for the previous game somehow, as i've certainly played DLC for other games that cost me about 5-10 bucks that lasted 7x as long. Of course, people buy/play it for the multiplayer too, but like I hinted at with the map comment, it's largely uninspired and not very interesting. The only thing that kept me going is the desire to unlock various upgrades. But ultimately, it wasn't enough. The maps were definitely the biggest problem for me, and I really have no interest in sitting on it for a few months to wait and be charged a bunch of money to download slightly better mediocre maps when they release them.
Kravick Drasani	Posted - 2009.11.17 08:11:00 - [116] Originally by: Ella C'Tronix I really have no interest in sitting on it for a few months to wait and be charged a bunch of money to download slightly better mediocre maps when they release them. Welcome to the era of nickel and dime gaming. This is why these companies use piracy as a scapegoat on the PC. They can't nickel and dime PC users as easily. Piracy is a red herring anyway so it doesn't matter. - Originally by: Rilwar If you want to nag on warp speed, how about the question of "Why does my Crow manage to go 9.5AU/s for 2 seconds during a 9AU jump?"
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.17 10:15:00 - [117] Originally by: Crewman Jenkins Ill not pay for this atrocity I hope this isnt you. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
SpaceMagic Amarr The Arrow Project	Posted - 2009.11.17 10:48:00 - [118] Jst Completed the campaign i have to agree it is pretty small i dont it in 3 hours but it is an amazing story, and as for the graphics they seem to be pretty awsome to me, there is one map 'terminal' not to shore about the graphics on that seems to coulourful to me idk maybe jst me overall i think its a good game and ú45 well spent
Ella C'Tronix	Posted - 2009.11.17 11:19:00 - [119] On HD consoles, the graphics are absolutely horrid compared to other games. Mostly the lighting and textures, less noticeable on characters than everything else. Probably not as obvious on PC due to higher resolutions but the textures and colors would still look like crap and the lighting is still all wrong.
Dan O'Connor Endless Gig	Posted - 2009.11.17 11:30:00 - [120] I don't know if that was the same everywhere with the ad-campaign, but here they kinda said, like superimposed on the screen "the most anticipated game of THE DECADE!". I read a few game magazines and not one of those has ever said something to that effect. I wonder why... haha It's a game. I personally find it incredibly brave to put a game that has many or most common features missing, on the market, hoping people will still buy it. Let's see in three months what the actual selling stats were in the first few days, AND the stats after. For me I'm much more excited about Mass Effect 2 which comes in spring. Sure, it's not like CoD but the first one was unique, great story, I cleared that one. To be honest I can't wait for the second. --- Chuck Norris would join ENDLESS∞GIG. So can you.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.17 12:33:00 - [121] Originally by: Dan O'Connor I don't know if that was the same everywhere with the ad-campaign, but here they kinda said, like superimposed on the screen "the most anticipated game of THE DECADE!". I read a few game magazines and not one of those has ever said something to that effect. I wonder why... haha It's a game. I personally find it incredibly brave to put a game that has many or most common features missing, on the market, hoping people will still buy it. Let's see in three months what the actual selling stats were in the first few days, AND the stats after. For me I'm much more excited about Mass Effect 2 which comes in spring. Sure, it's not like CoD but the first one was unique, great story, I cleared that one. To be honest I can't wait for the second. This game broke day 1 entertainment product record. Meaning on its first day this game outsold any other entertainment product you can think of, concert tickets, music albums, movie tickets, dvds/vhs, and video games. Raking in an impressive 310$ million dollars which could have easily paid for the production of the flabergastic failsauce movie G.I. Joe places this ahead of the previous record holder Halo 3 which had been at the time the blame for hollywoods worst month in over a decade. The previous holder of the title before halo 3 was Jurrasic Park 2 and before then the Empire Strikes Back the first showing. What has made CoD such a successful series is being able to 'experince' some of our favorite military fanatic moments we've seen in the media. The biggest nod was probably Saving Private Ryan, which itself changed wold war 2 movies forever, at the time medal of honor never came close to delivering. Other nods have been to Enemy at the Gates, The Rock, Black Hawk Down, News Media of the ac130 video and many more I cannot recall of. Then to top things off they continue to add thier own experinces that have yet to be seen anywhere. Fourtuante the first CoDs had a rich history of ww2 to pull from. Bringing that level of intensity to a mordern battlefield however had to be penned form scratch almost but in the end it vastly paid off becomming one of the more memorable and stacked against mordern shooters around for the higher octane arcade paced fighting. However the number one driving factor for such negativity is probably from an activision board level decision to nix the ability for players to get thier own servers, this is probably the same reason why there are two studios working on call of duty and clear evidence that activision wants to milk the COD cow as much as possible. The other source of such negativity however is one particular mission where morals are questioned and can be extremly disturbing for a few. It grew a big enough stink that they had to patch it to allow 'skipping' the mission. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
Reiisha Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.17 13:20:00 - [122] News: Gamespot is deleting bad reviews on MW2 PC. Yay. "If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.11.17 14:24:00 - [123] Originally by: Reiisha News: Gamespot is deleting bad reviews on MW2 PC. Yay. lemme guess, activision pressure to "remove reviews or we remove our ads"? --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.17 14:53:00 - [124] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Reiisha News: Gamespot is deleting bad reviews on MW2 PC. Yay. lemme guess, activision pressure to "remove reviews or we remove our ads"? Do you really need to guess the obvious?
Kravick Drasani	Posted - 2009.11.17 15:09:00 - [125] Originally by: Reiisha News: Gamespot is deleting bad reviews on MW2 PC. Yay. Metacritic had a user score of 1.4 out of 10 for about 3 or 4 days. Next thing you know a score of 5.6 shows up over night. All of the new reviews looked like cut and paste responses you'd find in an email but praising MW2. Activision has turned into the new EA. Just another publisher I'm never going to touch again. - Originally by: Rilwar If you want to nag on warp speed, how about the question of "Why does my Crow manage to go 9.5AU/s for 2 seconds during a 9AU jump?"
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.11.17 17:51:00 - [126] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Reiisha News: Gamespot is deleting bad reviews on MW2 PC. Yay. lemme guess, activision pressure to "remove reviews or we remove our ads"? Do you really need to guess the obvious? I'm captain obvious, and my super power is to point out the obvious. nice to meet you --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Bestofworst Gallente	Posted - 2009.11.17 20:47:00 - [127] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Reiisha News: Gamespot is deleting bad reviews on MW2 PC. Yay. lemme guess, activision pressure to "remove reviews or we remove our ads"? Do you really need to guess the obvious? I'm captain obvious, and my super power is to point out the obvious. nice to meet you This is a good post. ---- My Music Anything I say is only what I think. If you have a problem with me, take it up with me.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.17 21:59:00 - [128] My question is what makes it a bad game? There are people convinced this is the worst game in the world? I have played games FAR worse than this game and Ive been told those arent even near the bottom of the pile. Graphics? Well at least its on par with current games, its not distratingly bad, and the art is consistent at least. Ultimately games shouldnt be judged on graphics alone, there are some really top notched graphics games out there and to say none the least suck in every other aspect, then you have games that purposely gone backwards on grapics and they're alot better than some of the crud churned out. Sound? High quality, no annoying voice overs or horrible music or misbalanced sense of sound though the pacing of the game. Controls? Smooth and easy to pick up and understand, there are shooters out there that has thrown this out the window before and CoD isnt one of them. Story? Thoughtful and compelling enough to pick up the player motivate him to finish, there are games out there that can pick up a player then drop them from wanting to finish, though it was a short story of a game it was crammed packed with action. Replay value? This is a faltering value on this game, even the people say the hardest mode was relativly easier Im not sure if this is was a result of fixing a problem in the last game the 'infinite' enemies but it probably is. Yet there are those that this game irks them to think this is the worst game ever published, be honest this game is far from the worst, however its not the best out there either. Things you think that would have improved the game? -Probably the option for dedicated servers on the PC version -A west coast US campaign involving the fresh out of boot camp marines having to deal with a situation they're wherent prepared for (which I think they where doing but had to remove due to publishing schedules, which explains the golden gate bridge map) -A set of Special Ops mode tailored to allow 3-4 players and matchmaking for those missions as well, and maybe a few more missions that are more of a mini game like a 'horde' mode than just survive a few waves that already exist. -Multiplayer Improvment? other than the dedicated servers the pc gamers want, would love to see non combat rewards for prestige mode and probably a few more maps (lack of variety in game styles right now) Any game that could have been improved isnt the best game out there, but I think infinity ward knows they raised the bar again on terms of presenting a story though a game that can rival hollywoods ability to tell a story. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
Lazarann Mercury Nation House of Mercury	Posted - 2009.11.17 22:19:00 - [129] At the risk of getting e-lynched: I love MW2, single- and multi-player. ---------------- A million faces, each a million lies
Shock Blade The Nemesis	Posted - 2009.11.17 22:47:00 - [130] Personally I love it so far, single player was awesome and multiplayer despite the lack of dedicated servers is proving to be just as addictive, and sooo much fun with the new class options And in reply to the person on about game spot deleting reviews, you missed the bit where you can actually see what they deleted, IÆd hardly call the following a review.... Not played the game but no dedicated server = fail (1 star) I hear somebodyÆs already prestigeed twice on XBOX / PS3 leader boards btw, anyone confirm?
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.11.17 23:07:00 - [131] Originally by: Shock Blade Personally I love it so far, single player was awesome and multiplayer despite the lack of dedicated servers is proving to be just as addictive, and sooo much fun with the new class options And in reply to the person on about game spot deleting reviews, you missed the bit where you can actually see what they deleted, IÆd hardly call the following a review.... Not played the game but no dedicated server = fail (1 star) I hear somebodyÆs already prestigeed twice on XBOX / PS3 leader boards btw, anyone confirm? people prestigeed on the PC version arround day... 1? that's just how awesome VAC+IW.net is. now I am in agreement that IW.net is good for the casual gameplay, that is if you manage to get a game with no hackers about, but not for competitive FPS, and that's the main gripe. also, the fact that IW shat on the face of the modding community means that they intend to implement a P2P/microtransaction/DLC model. some FPS survive with such method, BUT, they are f2p --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.17 23:17:00 - [132] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Reiisha News: Gamespot is deleting bad reviews on MW2 PC. Yay. lemme guess, activision pressure to "remove reviews or we remove our ads"? Do you really need to guess the obvious? I'm captain obvious, and my super power is to point out the obvious. nice to meet you Post of the year award.
Doom Nightmare	Posted - 2009.11.17 23:40:00 - [133] Originally by: Grimpak people prestigeed on the PC version arround day... 1? that's just how awesome VAC+IW.net is. now I am in agreement that IW.net is good for the casual gameplay, that is if you manage to get a game with no hackers about, but not for competitive FPS, and that's the main gripe. also, the fact that IW shat on the face of the modding community means that they intend to implement a P2P/microtransaction/DLC model. some FPS survive with such method, BUT, they are f2p Well nobody did in Europe (going on leaderboards for PC here). Still, whats with all this talk of hackers, I've been playing for 4-5 days now and it's been fine
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.11.17 23:51:00 - [134] Originally by: Doom Nightmare Originally by: Grimpak people prestigeed on the PC version arround day... 1? that's just how awesome VAC+IW.net is. now I am in agreement that IW.net is good for the casual gameplay, that is if you manage to get a game with no hackers about, but not for competitive FPS, and that's the main gripe. also, the fact that IW shat on the face of the modding community means that they intend to implement a P2P/microtransaction/DLC model. some FPS survive with such method, BUT, they are f2p Well nobody did in Europe (going on leaderboards for PC here). Still, whats with all this talk of hackers, I've been playing for 4-5 days now and it's been fine some people have reported wallhacks/aimbots from day 1 and they either took too much time or haven't been banned yet. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.11.17 23:59:00 - [135] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Irida Mershkov Do you really need to guess the obvious? I'm captain obvious, and my super power is to point out the obvious. nice to meet you Post of the year award. Looks like Captain Obvious has competition. Maybe he should sue you for Superpower Infringement. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.18 00:04:00 - [136] Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Irida Mershkov Do you really need to guess the obvious? I'm captain obvious, and my super power is to point out the obvious. nice to meet you Post of the year award. Looks like Captain Obvious has competition. Maybe he should sue you for Superpower Infringement. I'm sure that there are many American lawyers that would try to take up the case.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.11.18 00:06:00 - [137] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: Grimpak ]I'm captain obvious, and my super power is to point out the obvious. nice to meet you Post of the year award. Looks like Captain Obvious has competition. Maybe he should sue you for Superpower Infringement. I'm sure that there are many American lawyers that would try to take up the case. See, there you go again, using HIS superpower. Seriously. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Orion Eridanus Dark Ashes	Posted - 2009.11.18 03:49:00 - [138] Originally by: Irida Mershkov I'm sure that there are many American lawyers that would try to take up the case. I'll take the case, my fee is 10 taco's a day Originally by: Paulo Damarr That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.11.18 04:14:00 - [139] Welcome to the console generation that takes whatever the man gives him and licks the plate clean.. At premium prices too.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.11.18 05:07:00 - [140] Originally by: Zeba Welcome to the console generation that takes whatever the man gives him and licks the plate clean.. At premium prices too. is there dlc out?!?! oh and mw3 should be out for xmas!
LaVista Vista Conservative Shenanigans Party	Posted - 2009.11.18 05:27:00 - [141] Originally by: Grimpak now I am in agreement that IW.net is good for the casual gameplay, that is if you manage to get a game with no hackers about Oh please, don't even start the whole hacker argument. It's nothing but the exact same "Terrorist" argument, which the government use to control you. It's simply not something that matters. For what it's worth, I have been accused of using wallhack twice since MW2 was released. People who label others as hackers only do so because of their inability to explain how you just killed their 1337 ass!
Neyro7830 Gallente The 5th Freedom Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.11.18 06:20:00 - [142] Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Grimpak now I am in agreement that IW.net is good for the casual gameplay, that is if you manage to get a game with no hackers about Oh please, don't even start the whole hacker argument. It's nothing but the exact same "Terrorist" argument, which the government use to control you. It's simply not something that matters. For what it's worth, I have been accused of using wallhack twice since MW2 was released. People who label others as hackers only do so because of their inability to explain how you just killed their 1337 ass! I guess you haven't seen the 11 billion youtube videos out there of people using aimbots, no recoil scripts, and wallhacks in mw2 have you. Oh god how did this get here I am not good with computer
Marlona Sky D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.11.18 08:36:00 - [143] Edited by: Marlona Sky on 18/11/2009 08:43:39 Aim-Bots... Yet another reason why I'm glad DUST 514 will be console only.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.18 12:23:00 - [144] Originally by: Zeba Welcome to the console generation that takes whatever the man gives him and licks the plate clean.. At premium prices too. Belive it or not we hate bad console games probably alot worse than pc gamers do. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2009.11.18 12:25:00 - [145] Quote: now I am in agreement that IW.net is good for the casual gameplay, that is if you manage to get a game with no hackers about, but not for competitive FPS, and that's the main gripe. I used to think that, but with actual release i changed my mind. In principle MW2 is probably an average shooter overall, nothing special, but gameplay wise and balance wise they only completely ****ed up a few things, could be worse. Online besides that is pretty much a disaster (which makes it average with poor quality of other recent games). But as casual player: I still want to play on a clan server so you just play regulary with same people, that is more fun than always with random people. My ports are confirmed to be open, but it still says strict, limitting me in games. Way too often terrible lag with the p2p crap. Way too many errors, host migration failed, could not connect to host, lobby closed, hell even error messages telling you to reconnect to xbox live when playing on PC! Long time between games, and takes too long to get into a game quite often. When you finally in a game and you start next map you get host migration failed or something similar and you can start searching again. Sucky replay value, only a few maps, some of them crap maps, very short games, no custom maps -> you quickly have enough of those maps. With dedi servers we would get custom maps, so better replay value. When you are on a good server it wont suddenly start lagging, sure it can happen sometimes, but nowehre near are frequent with p2p. Yuo dont have port forwarding to worry about, you got admins (granted they sometimes are not the brightest people, but still better than nothing), it is just better in every possible way, p2p doesnt add anything. All these things make what could have been a great game nothing more than an average game. That it is now pretty much confirmed that virusses are being spread via IWnet also doesnt improve it.
Xanos Blackpaw Amarr Clann Fian Revival Of The Talocan Empire	Posted - 2009.11.18 14:50:00 - [146] Anyone else notice that any footage in the MW2 reviews on the PC version on both IGN and GameSpot is all from a concole version? And they make no mention what so ever about any bad things? The only bad thing both places mention is a short story but thats is made up for be a 'AWESOME' multiplayer mode... Did then get a script each from infinity ward to read out of or they pull all adds or what? ________________________________________________ Tau - Yeah we suck in close combat. To bad you will never get there. For the greater good!! Quote: "I love Australia! Our spiders have health bars.
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.11.18 15:17:00 - [147] Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw Anyone else notice that any footage in the MW2 reviews on the PC version on both IGN and GameSpot is all from a concole version? And they make no mention what so ever about any bad things? The only bad thing both places mention is a short story but thats is made up for be a 'AWESOME' multiplayer mode... Did then get a script each from infinity ward to read out of or they pull all adds or what? isn't it obvious? oh and btw, it seems that IW.net now helps spreading trojans --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2009.11.18 15:34:00 - [148] Activision didnt allow reviewers to test the pc version before release, and since basicly all reviews these days are before release and otherwise you are outdated, they probably didnt bother to do a real PC review. From a dutch site: (Tweakers.net) Quote: Zoals jullie wellicht al hebben gelezen, hebben we een Modern Warfare 2 review geplaatst op basis van de Xbox 360-versie. Dit is geen bewuste keuze, maar de enige review-mogelijkheid die ons werd geboden door Activision. Which translates roughly to: We made an Xbox 360 review since that was the only possibility Activision gave us.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.11.18 16:27:00 - [149] Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Grimpak now I am in agreement that IW.net is good for the casual gameplay, that is if you manage to get a game with no hackers about Oh please, don't even start the whole hacker argument. It's nothing but the exact same "Terrorist" argument, which the government use to control you. It's simply not something that matters. For what it's worth, I have been accused of using wallhack twice since MW2 was released. People who label others as hackers only do so because of their inability to explain how you just killed their 1337 ass! because when you spawn a few 100 feet in the sky and are getting shot at by a constant barrage of sniper fire that is just their good skills. (from halo 2 not mw2, really cba to buy mw2, never a fan of the cod series)
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.18 19:59:00 - [150]
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.11.18 21:01:00 - [151] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Zeba Welcome to the console generation that takes whatever the man gives him and licks the plate clean.. At premium prices too. is there dlc out?!?! oh and mw3 should be out for xmas! You naff. I've already pre-ordered mw4 for $90 and it should be out first quarter 2010. They say its rumoured to have an even moar intense 5vs5 multiplay and SIX hours of singleplayer content. Also: Over half a billion is sales in two days for the us and uk market alone.. My god. Now EVERYONE is going to start acting like EA. All gaming is doomed now if the indi devs and online shops start jumping on the OMGPROFITS at the exspence of a proper game bandwagon.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.18 22:52:00 - [152] 5hrs for a shooter is awfully long for something thats heavily scripted and story driven with few repeating scenarios I think the game would have sucked alot more if they tried to strech the current content out with what little time they had and could have done and lost the attention span of the player. I mean its almost like making a movie at this point in gaming, gone are mostly the uninteresting shooters consisting of 80 levels drawn on graph paper, now adays most levels are designed in a comic book or at least they try it this way. Take a look at warcraft and how it destroyed mmo tradition. No more exp grinding its now Quest Grinding, at least with quest grinding you somewhat do something alot different than bashing the same rabbit 80 times in a row. Now its go out bash 20 rabbits then bash this then bash that. More and more games are moving away from static content, the more succesful games do this very well I mean its easy to design a tower defense game that has 1 tower type and 1 enemy type. But trying to add 1 new enemy type and 1 new tower type can make the game a bit more addictive which is why games like Plants vs Zombies and Defense Grid where great tower defense games. Applying this logic to a shooter however is far more difficult due to the fact most enemies and weapons are not the centerpeice of the game. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.11.18 23:02:00 - [153] Fair enough. But riddle me this Batman. Was it worth or even be remotely considered worth $60 for the delivered content?
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.18 23:03:00 - [154] Originally by: Zeba Fair enough. But riddle me this Batman. Was it worth or even be remotely considered worth $60 for the delivered content? It's the most fun Fps I've played in quite a while. Multiplayer regularly has me and my mates ****ing ourselves with laughter, so hell yes from me.
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2009.11.18 23:32:00 - [155] Edited by: Barakkus on 18/11/2009 23:33:39 CoD4 took twice as long to run through than MW:2 I was actually disapointed with the length of the campaign. There are some people out there that like a game to take more than a couple hours to beat still...I blame the ADD generation after mine for the decline in quality of video games...I get rather tired of the fact that most games released in the past couple years, the single player takes 3 or 4 hours to complete...and I'm completely uninterested in online FPS after spending tons of time playing Unreal Tournamnent 10 years ago. It got really boring...I tried Crysis online the other day, and it's pretty much the same crap that Unreal Tournament was...which is the whole reason I don't bother with online shooters...besides if I want to play something online, I'll play an MMO, not a FPS (unless it was an MMO). MW:2 is definitely a GREAT game, I just feel it was a bit short compared to CoD4. ****, my wife even wants to play the CoD series after watching me play it, and she's not one for video games lol.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.11.18 23:39:00 - [156] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 18/11/2009 23:33:14 Originally by: Zeba Fair enough. But riddle me this Batman. Was it worth or even be remotely considered worth $60 for the delivered content? It's the most fun Fps I've played in quite a while. Multiplayer regularly has me and my mates ***ing ourselves with laughter, so hell yes from me. Edit: 49/6 with a Knife-spree, Marathon, Lightweight and Commando Pro. Basically just a running blur shooting across the map knifing people before they can react. So you happily* paid $60 for what rightfully should have been a $20 expansion pack for mw1? Oh wait they nixed dedicated servers and introduced an unrealistic player limit of 18 max so they couldn't sell it as an expansion. Ah well lets charge em $60 and call it a full game. Roffles..
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.18 23:55:00 - [157] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Irida Mershkov Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 18/11/2009 23:33:14 Originally by: Zeba Fair enough. But riddle me this Batman. Was it worth or even be remotely considered worth $60 for the delivered content? It's the most fun Fps I've played in quite a while. Multiplayer regularly has me and my mates ***ing ourselves with laughter, so hell yes from me. Edit: 49/6 with a Knife-spree, Marathon, Lightweight and Commando Pro. Basically just a running blur shooting across the map knifing people before they can react. So you happily* paid $60 for what rightfully should have been a $20 expansion pack for mw1? Oh wait they nixed dedicated servers and introduced an unrealistic player limit of 18 max so they couldn't sell it as an expansion. Ah well lets charge em $60 and call it a full game. Roffles.. Yup, but, I'm not the type of person who tries to devalue someone else's enjoyment based on their own knee-jerk reactions.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.11.19 00:04:00 - [158] It's not a knee jerk reaction. It's one that I have been steadily refining since EA killed off Earth and Beyond and started the whole lets make the devs work on a shoestring budget but spend tens of millions in advertising hype so we can charge even moar than the average AAA game price whilst making even moar profits by regurgitation the same content from last years or even last six months game with a few tweaks and call it a full game. Now its spread to Activision and you just lick the plate clean and go yumm yumm. So yeah I guess I am devauling your entertainment for your own good but another $60 lunchables pack will be along soon for you to eat up in a gulp so its probably wasted effort.
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.19 00:16:00 - [159] Welcome to business. Provided its an entertainment I enjoy, then it is worth my money.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.11.19 00:26:00 - [160] Yea I love how you can just jump straight into a game and start playing. As can be seen in the following presentation...... Linkage At least you can think about how good that 5 hours of SP was, whilst you twiddle your thumbs.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.11.19 00:28:00 - [161] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Its ok. Noone ever wants to admit they got scammed en mass. And tbh activision did scam people because they only announced the stuff about multiplayer after everyone and his aimbot had preordered it. Classic EA stunt tbh.
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.19 00:33:00 - [162] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Irida Mershkov Its ok. Noone ever wants to admit they got scammed en mass. And tbh activision did scam people because they only announced the stuff about multiplayer after everyone and his aimbot had preordered it. Classic EA stunt tbh. Ya tis true. Mind you EA are slowly getting better-ish. But it is definitely true the PC users got scammed out of their asses hard, which I didn't support myself.
Crewman Jenkins Caldari Malicious Demi-Lancers	Posted - 2009.11.19 00:42:00 - [163] Originally by: Nova Fox Originally by: Crewman Jenkins Ill not pay for this atrocity I hope this isnt you. Ha, what is he upset about I cant understand him.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.11.19 00:51:00 - [164] Originally by: Mag's Yea I love how you can just jump straight into a game and start playing. As can be seen in the following presentation...... Linkage At least you can think about how good that 5 hours of SP was, whilst you twiddle your thumbs. Ok. There is no way in hell I will buy pc mw2 at any price if that is the normal way you have to get into an online game and its not just his personal isp issues. I mean wtf they made half a freakin billion and rising off this game so give it a real pc multiplayer. Also is this how console fps games are matched? I've never played one so I have no idea.
Teetxe	Posted - 2009.11.19 04:20:00 - [165] The masses are morons. This is nothing new.
Dramaan	Posted - 2009.11.19 04:48:00 - [166] Well expect some to like it. This game is lackin most from the othe call of duty game a stoy you belive in. This game have noting new from cod4:MW. But i whoud not recomend any that likes fps and stoy mordern warfare:2 . The cod:mw2 fans can say whatever they like some will like it, but many will hate it.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.11.19 05:08:00 - [167]
Orion Eridanus Dark Ashes	Posted - 2009.11.19 06:20:00 - [168] Originally by: Reiisha News: Gamespot is deleting bad reviews on MW2 PC. Yay. Freedom of speech: Only if you pay the bills. Originally by: Paulo Damarr That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.19 07:59:00 - [169] Originally by: Zeba Fair enough. But riddle me this Batman. Was it worth or even be remotely considered worth $60 for the delivered content? I have seen better done with less funding (Portal comes to mind) but Im sure MW2 costed alot to produce, I fear for the next generation of games as thier production costs will rival movies. As for the amount of product delivered it is well in the 30-50$ range for the single player content and defeinetly worth every penny of a rental. Replay value of the SP is limited to regathering intel and playing it on a harder difficulty and what few acheivements are involved with that one. There is an extreme amounts of replay value in Special Ops modes which takes some of the best experinces of MW1 and MW2+ and turn them into a co-op experinces, missions from MW1 such as one player mannning the ac-130 while your buddy runs to the extraction point on the ground. The special Ops on hard mode is extremly difficult solo and with a friend and its a great blast none the less, only thing to be desired is an 'infinite' mode on some of the survival missions (capped at 5 waves on most of those type) and only 2 player co-op, but for those completionist this will definetly keep them busy for hours even with a friend. Multiplayer is everything the original MW was on console and then some, the lack of map variety is the only thing wanting hopefully the new content released next year fixes this, it feels far more balanced than it used to be then again we havent been out for a month yet to figure out a 'flavor' of the month. Recent game that I felt ripped off on was ODST at 50-60$ with a very short campaign and nothing much extra on multiplayer or bonus content much and with no match making on firefight makes it meh. Game was easily worth half of the sale value. Production spent I assure was far less than MW2s as they used the halo 3 havok powered engine again. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.11.19 10:56:00 - [170] /me waits till march, when BFBC2 will blow MW2 out of the water.
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.11.19 15:24:00 - [171] Edited by: Xen Gin on 19/11/2009 15:23:43 Originally by: Nova Fox Originally by: Zeba Fair enough. But riddle me this Batman. Was it worth or even be remotely considered worth $60 for the delivered content? I have seen better done with less funding (Portal comes to mind) but Im sure MW2 costed alot to produce, Not as much as the $25million they spent on marketing. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.11.19 16:28:00 - [172] Edited by: Grimpak on 19/11/2009 16:30:10 Originally by: Xen Gin Edited by: Xen Gin on 19/11/2009 15:23:43 Originally by: Nova Fox Originally by: Zeba Fair enough. But riddle me this Batman. Was it worth or even be remotely considered worth $60 for the delivered content? I have seen better done with less funding (Portal comes to mind) but Im sure MW2 costed alot to produce, Not as much as the $25million they spent on marketing. the marketing costs are rated at at least 3x the development costs. so yes, the sales are only this successful because of marketing, apparently. edit: also, the IW forums seem to be down for over a day already. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2009.11.19 16:52:00 - [173] Originally by: Mag's /me waits till march, when BFBC2 will blow MW2 out of the water. Why? PS3 limitted beta keys now being handed out and in december PC gets open beta ;)
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.11.19 17:06:00 - [174] Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Mag's /me waits till march, when BFBC2 will blow MW2 out of the water. Why? PS3 limitted beta keys now being handed out and in december PC gets open beta ;) because it will, at least, give out the same experience as MW2 plus dedicated servers and mod support? --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Irida Mershkov Gallente Black Marsh X	Posted - 2009.11.19 17:20:00 - [175] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Mag's /me waits till march, when BFBC2 will blow MW2 out of the water. Why? PS3 limitted beta keys now being handed out and in december PC gets open beta ;) because it will, at least, give out the same experience as MW2 plus dedicated servers and mod support? You didn't just try to degrade BC2 into MW2 territory did you? Oh no you didn't.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2009.11.19 17:28:00 - [176] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Mag's /me waits till march, when BFBC2 will blow MW2 out of the water. Why? PS3 limitted beta keys now being handed out and in december PC gets open beta ;) because it will, at least, give out the same experience as MW2 plus dedicated servers and mod support? Read again ;) Question isnt why get it (i might buy it too, just afraid like BF2 it will be too much centered on vehicles, where you could drive a tank, shoot main gun, and shoot machine gun all at the same time, which just plain sucked imo. And when walking on foot you couldnt destroy helis, those things even survived full hits from anti tank missiles), question is why wait until march when you can get beta already in december?
Doctor Penguin Amarr Sacred Templars	Posted - 2009.11.19 18:00:00 - [177] Edited by: Doctor Penguin on 19/11/2009 18:01:50 Just confirming that I spent ú10 on Team Fortress 2 two years ago and it's still being upgraded. It has a lively community, bajillions of maps and modes and a lot of value because each of the 9 classes are so different to each other. What would that ú10 buy me from IW? A 30 second trailer in black and white? With everyone else ranting about how great it is because they get to see it in colour because they dropped at least ú200 on a console? MW2 is nothing but Counter Strike: Source with regenerating health and upgrade mechanics stolen out of World of Warcraft to make the game last longer. ________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Soundwave Get out Mindstar, or I'll punch you in the ovaries.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.11.19 23:13:00 - [178] Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Mag's /me waits till march, when BFBC2 will blow MW2 out of the water. Why? PS3 limitted beta keys now being handed out and in december PC gets open beta ;) Well a friend is playing the PS3 Beta and he says it's great so far. I didn't actually know it was being released on the PC as a Beta,(never thought to look) thanks for the heads up.
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.11.20 00:01:00 - [179] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Mag's /me waits till march, when BFBC2 will blow MW2 out of the water. Why? PS3 limitted beta keys now being handed out and in december PC gets open beta ;) because it will, at least, give out the same experience as MW2 plus dedicated servers and mod support? You didn't just try to degrade BC2 into MW2 territory did you? Oh no you didn't. ok fine I did a mistake there --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Orion Eridanus Dark Ashes	Posted - 2009.11.20 02:11:00 - [180] Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Mag's /me waits till march, when BFBC2 will blow MW2 out of the water. Why? PS3 limitted beta keys now being handed out and in december PC gets open beta ;) because it will, at least, give out the same experience as MW2 plus dedicated servers and mod support? Read again ;) Question isnt why get it (i might buy it too, just afraid like BF2 it will be too much centered on vehicles, where you could drive a tank, shoot main gun, and shoot machine gun all at the same time, which just plain sucked imo. And when walking on foot you couldnt destroy helis, those things even survived full hits from anti tank missiles), question is why wait until march when you can get beta already in december? If you couldn't destroy helo's with the anti tank class then you were doing it wrong. That's all my brother and I would do in BF2, both go anti-tank and have a blast helo hunting. Originally by: Paulo Damarr That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.20 02:20:00 - [181] Edited by: Nova Fox on 20/11/2009 02:23:09 Originally by: Xen Gin Edited by: Xen Gin on 19/11/2009 15:23:43 Originally by: Nova Fox Originally by: Zeba Fair enough. But riddle me this Batman. Was it worth or even be remotely considered worth $60 for the delivered content? I have seen better done with less funding (Portal comes to mind) but Im sure MW2 costed alot to produce, Not as much as the $25million they spent on marketing. Let me correct you here It costs 40-50 million USD to produce mordern warfare 2 this is the money the studio itself spent on making this game. Price Tag of a Blockbuster Movie in hollywood is around 300-400 million USD now and alot of them dont break even. GI JOE for example is still struggling to get enough money back from marketing costs which is why its out on Disc now. The publisher Activision the ones responsible for distributing, manufacturing, and advertisment had a bill of 200$ million USD, im sure some of those commericals during sports games where high priced, at least it wasnt a superbowl commerical all that would have been spent in one shot on that one. The however the game did make a profit up in the 1+ billion USD now and that includes the charity to help veterans get job placments deducting from it. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
JeremyCricket	Posted - 2009.11.20 11:38:00 - [182] I really don't understand why people are getting angry about people spending their own money on something they want. It's frankly condescending to suggest that anyone who buys MW2 has been duped into buying something that is not worth the money.I think most people have made a considered decision based on previous games in the series and reviews. I think it is something to do with Eve that gives people on these forums the idea the 'them' and 'us' idea, 'us' being the informed older gamer who can see through the marketing of games companies and 'them' being the greatergaming public who are just mindless consumers. Part of the hate is also i think due to Eve being a game where once you are ahead that's where you stay, woe betide a game that puts everyone on an equal footing based purely on skill. Rant over, and if it wasn't clear I do like Eve.
Reiisha Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.20 14:14:00 - [183] Originally by: Nova Fox My question is what makes it a bad game? There are people convinced this is the worst game in the world? I have played games FAR worse than this game and Ive been told those arent even near the bottom of the pile. Graphics? Well at least its on par with current games, its not distratingly bad, and the art is consistent at least. Ultimately games shouldnt be judged on graphics alone, there are some really top notched graphics games out there and to say none the least suck in every other aspect, then you have games that purposely gone backwards on grapics and they're alot better than some of the crud churned out. Sound? High quality, no annoying voice overs or horrible music or misbalanced sense of sound though the pacing of the game. Controls? Smooth and easy to pick up and understand, there are shooters out there that has thrown this out the window before and CoD isnt one of them. Story? Thoughtful and compelling enough to pick up the player motivate him to finish, there are games out there that can pick up a player then drop them from wanting to finish, though it was a short story of a game it was crammed packed with action. Replay value? This is a faltering value on this game, even the people say the hardest mode was relativly easier Im not sure if this is was a result of fixing a problem in the last game the 'infinite' enemies but it probably is. Yet there are those that this game irks them to think this is the worst game ever published, be honest this game is far from the worst, however its not the best out there either. Things you think that would have improved the game? -Probably the option for dedicated servers on the PC version -A west coast US campaign involving the fresh out of boot camp marines having to deal with a situation they're wherent prepared for (which I think they where doing but had to remove due to publishing schedules, which explains the golden gate bridge map) -A set of Special Ops mode tailored to allow 3-4 players and matchmaking for those missions as well, and maybe a few more missions that are more of a mini game like a 'horde' mode than just survive a few waves that already exist. -Multiplayer Improvment? other than the dedicated servers the pc gamers want, would love to see non combat rewards for prestige mode and probably a few more maps (lack of variety in game styles right now) Any game that could have been improved isnt the best game out there, but I think infinity ward knows they raised the bar again on terms of presenting a story though a game that can rival hollywoods ability to tell a story. It is a bad game because it the developers took the easy route and copied the first Modern Warfare, but added a lot of restrictions. They dumbed a great game down (even more) and made iw.net mandatory purely for generating revenue. The game hasn't been made for gamers, the game has been made for Activision shareholders. That is why it's a bad game. "If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
JeremyCricket	Posted - 2009.11.20 15:07:00 - [184] What gives you the idea that some games companies are more driven by the greed of their shareholders than others? Here's news for you: no games companies are charities! They are all out to make a profit. Everything CCP does is for profit, form the most expensive advert to the smallest bug fix. Don't be so naive.
JitaBum Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.11.20 15:50:00 - [185] They still left the key for the console in the instruction manual. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Eeyx9srtao
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.11.20 17:42:00 - [186] Originally by: JeremyCricket What gives you the idea that some games companies are more driven by the greed of their shareholders than others? Here's news for you: no games companies are charities! They are all out to make a profit. Everything CCP does is for profit, form the most expensive advert to the smallest bug fix. Don't be so naive. Surprisingly companies make more profit when they DON'T stab them in the back and poison them! ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Lt Forge Pilots From Honour Aeternus.	Posted - 2009.11.21 03:30:00 - [187] Link Girls, don't forget to purchase your copy _____________
karma militia	Posted - 2009.11.21 03:47:00 - [188] Originally by: JitaBum They still left the key for the console in the instruction manual. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Eeyx9srtao They unlocked that console almost a week ago, started messing with their servers, i think the games were even ranked. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pBQO3qkrgQ&feature=related Originally by: Corwain The human race is going extinct soon and you all ****ing deserve it.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.11.21 03:58:00 - [189] Originally by: karma militia Originally by: JitaBum They still left the key for the console in the instruction manual. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Eeyx9srtao They unlocked that console almost a week ago, started messing with their servers, i think the games were even ranked. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pBQO3qkrgQ&feature=related I doubt iw or activision could give a flying shiat. They already made a billion off of it and counting..
IVeige Caldari IVever	Posted - 2009.11.21 14:15:00 - [190] graphics are nice, doesnt take time to get to play on multiplayer. But its ALOT like the last one. feel like hardcore mode with all the weapons. Also not enough people in multi games. I miss the time when you could join a 30 people game with a machine gun and have some fun.
Reiisha Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.22 02:32:00 - [191] Originally by: JeremyCricket What gives you the idea that some games companies are more driven by the greed of their shareholders than others? Here's news for you: no games companies are charities! They are all out to make a profit. Everything CCP does is for profit, form the most expensive advert to the smallest bug fix. Don't be so naive. They're free to make profit, as long as we get a fair product in return. Unless you're saying that you should pay a hell of a lot for a car with square wheels, which is what MW2 comes down to. They're going to make you pay after the fact to get proper round wheels, and maybe they'll sell you the steering wheel in a few months too. In the meantime they're laughing their arse off while swimming in $1000 bills because you were 'naive' enough to buy their car. "If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
Teetxe	Posted - 2009.11.22 13:40:00 - [192] Its not a bad game because of its content. It IS a bad game because technologically it is a step backwards for multiplayer gaming and gaming culture. Aswell as has already been stated. Its largely a copy/paste job of CoD4 with less freedom and more marketing hype.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.11.22 22:58:00 - [193] Originally by: Reiisha It is a bad game because it the developers took the easy route and copied the first Modern Warfare, but added a lot of restrictions. They dumbed a great game down (even more) and made iw.net mandatory purely for generating revenue. The game hasn't been made for gamers, the game has been made for Activision shareholders. That is why it's a bad game. Thats ODST, where they used the same engine and did some more polishing up. They did the same thing for Gears of War 1 & 2. MW2 is definetly presented as a different engine all together from sound presentation to how the pipeline works and even map models imported from the first game have a very stark different look and feel to them, even if they did use the same engine the amount of efforted shoved into it is just as much as making gears of war using unreal engine (unreal had an early limitation on male models). Dumbdown? Controls havent changed at all cept for the response times and feel. They also changed out one person loads out thier kits as its feels to be a diversly more stratigic experince, alot of weapons are harder to use imo. The only thing they seemed to dumbed down was the hit boxes on people. Which is a better improvment than shooting somone in the head in the previous game and missing entirely. Your just probably ****ed off that people no longer have to fight the controls to shoot you anymore. My major complaint is the lack of variety of maps. If you think its a bad game give a fuller review why, one liners aint going to cut it for me when trying to understand. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 11OCT09
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.11.22 23:58:00 - [194] Originally by: Nova Fox Originally by: Reiisha It is a bad game because it the developers took the easy route and copied the first Modern Warfare, but added a lot of restrictions. They dumbed a great game down (even more) and made iw.net mandatory purely for generating revenue. The game hasn't been made for gamers, the game has been made for Activision shareholders. That is why it's a bad game. Thats ODST, where they used the same engine and did some more polishing up. They did the same thing for Gears of War 1 & 2. MW2 is definetly presented as a different engine all together from sound presentation to how the pipeline works and even map models imported from the first game have a very stark different look and feel to them, even if they did use the same engine the amount of efforted shoved into it is just as much as making gears of war using unreal engine (unreal had an early limitation on male models). Dumbdown? Controls havent changed at all cept for the response times and feel. They also changed out one person loads out thier kits as its feels to be a diversly more stratigic experince, alot of weapons are harder to use imo. The only thing they seemed to dumbed down was the hit boxes on people. Which is a better improvment than shooting somone in the head in the previous game and missing entirely. Your just probably ****ed off that people no longer have to fight the controls to shoot you anymore. My major complaint is the lack of variety of maps. If you think its a bad game give a fuller review why, one liners aint going to cut it for me when trying to understand. No it's a dumbed down game for taking the stupid "Duh, our players can't use a server list, but can port forward their routers and firewalls options!" option. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Reiisha Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.24 12:34:00 - [195] Originally by: Nova Fox MW2 is definetly presented as a different engine all together from sound presentation to how the pipeline works and even map models imported from the first game have a very stark different look and feel to them, even if they did use the same engine the amount of efforted shoved into it is just as much as making gears of war using unreal engine (unreal had an early limitation on male models). It's the same engine. The only thing they added was texture streaming as far as i know - I think i've even seen an IW post stating exactly that. Originally by: Nova Fox Dumbdown? Controls havent changed at all cept for the response times and feel. They also changed out one person loads out thier kits as its feels to be a diversly more stratigic experince, alot of weapons are harder to use imo. The only thing they seemed to dumbed down was the hit boxes on people. Which is a better improvment than shooting somone in the head in the previous game and missing entirely. Your just probably ***ed off that people no longer have to fight the controls to shoot you anymore. Weapon balance is gone. Kill streaks are overpowered. Death streaks have been introduced. MP Maps i've seen have a very linear, lazy design. All these things have been done to cater to the console crowd, because they're relatively easy to do - Ignoring balance and gameplay just to put in "cool" things. That's the mark of lazy and bad game design. If you shot someone in the head and didn't kill him either your ping was too high or you were suffering from packetloss. Something that still* happens in MW2. Larger hitboxes just mean that it happens less often because you hit more, relatively speaking, and when it actually happens you dismiss the event because you think you missed. I'll not start about how the game doesn't require as much skill anymore. The controls were perfect in MW1. It may seem easier to play MW2 because the controls are actually looser, even helping you along a little, rather than responding perfectly to your input which is something you really want in MP. If you only play casually you probably wouldn't notice though, but that's the entire point of the game, apparently. This is reason enough for the 'pro' players not to play MW2 in competitions. Having no dedicated servers is just the cherry on the top. Originally by: Nova Fox My major complaint is the lack of variety of maps. If you think its a bad game give a fuller review why, one liners aint going to cut it for me when trying to understand. There's more than enough 'fuller' reviews on why MW2 is worse than MW1. I get the feeling you're not seeing this from a PC player's perspective, the platform this game, it's developer and the entire genre spawned from, and the platform IW is turning it's back on. Imagine CCP redesigning EVE for the console market. Fleet battles can have a maximum of 32 players involved because solar systems are hosted on clients now. There are only 5 weapons in the game, 1 of which is "unlocked" after a while and kills everyone on the field. The market is scrapped because it's "too difficult to operate on a console", and all modules are being sold at fixed prices in a simple drop down menu - All 5 of them. There's only 1 ship left, to 'streamline' the gameplay, so there's no need to buy or train for it. Then they keep it at $15/month and make the same changes for the PC version, because "it's better". THAT is what IW has done with MW2. "If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"

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