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Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1033	Posted - 2012.06.15 02:47:00 - [271] - Quote Tarsus Zateki wrote: InternetSpaceship wrote: So form a god damned corporation that does that. God, you are so ******* dense. That is exactly what the corporation system in Eve was intended for. Make a police corp, make a merc corp, make any kind of corp that offers protection for miners. You're allowed to do that. DO IT. "Welcome to Joringer Inc. Here's your complimentary Osprey for joining our growing community of miners. Be sure to fit the Shield Extender you've been provided with. If you do not have the skill needed to use a Shield Extender please take one from the corporate hanger. Be sure to insure your complimentary Osprey in the event that the evil Goonswarm attempt to blow it up. Our communal mining operations are every Saturday and Sunday evening at 20:00 Eve Time!" No way, you're teaching them to TANK? What about the Maximizing Yield 101 classes? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Maddy Joringer United Society of Xziles The Skeleton Crew 10	Posted - 2012.06.15 02:50:00 - [272] - Quote Quote: No way, you're teaching them to TANK? What about the Maximizing Yield 101 classes? still waiting for the reply on tanking mining barges ..
Aramatheia European Nuthouse 42	Posted - 2012.06.15 02:50:00 - [273] - Quote Tarsus Zateki wrote: Maddy Joringer wrote: This nonsense of ganking Mining Barges is gonna kill eve until CCP brings in some modifications. Killing mining barges of 2-3 month old players is only gonna make you loose players . This entire thread is created for attention anyway Given that the vast majority of miners aren't actually players the only loss will be a small amount of revenue. I'm sure CCP is willing to take a small hit to their subscription income if it means a reduction in bots. And even those miners that are real humans don't actually play Eve while mining anyway. I'm not going to shed a tear over their loss. Eve will not only survive, but culling the folks that go out of their way to find ways to run Eve while not actually tabbed into the game; will cause the game to flourish more than it already is. Greater conflict will bring greater interest. I have never seen you sitting next to me watching me chat in game as i mine, please tell me how you have this information? if you have secretly installed cameras in my house i WILL call authorities... lol Also i see players and bots lumped into the same paragraph, barely 5 words between them. I am not a bot and i get pretty tired of the forum accusations that i bot because of the skillset i have currently been using/training. If mining was an exploit, something that needed to be "fixed" it wouldnt be in the game at all. Waging war on noobs in retrievers now is just silly beyond words. Not to mention the shift to covetors is quite possibly the human players trying to isolate themselves from the botters by flying something different to the bots therefore escaping the unreasonable claims that they too are bots. Bots wont mysteriously reship if they get engaged/blown up, they will just get a new hulk. For them max yield is thier life. Whats a 300m isk ship if they make billions a day across thier bot accounts (which they then "sell" but immediately hack and rob the accounts of losers who fall for the isk for dollars scam anyway)?
Tarsus Zateki GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 582	Posted - 2012.06.15 02:50:00 - [274] - Quote Maddy Joringer wrote: Tarsus Zateki wrote: Maddy Joringer wrote: there is none.. all experienced players are based in null and all noobs are based in high sec. Which makes quiet hard for newbs and experianced players to co=operate and help each other. Not a single thing you stated here is actually true. My own alliance is living proof of this if you're familiar with how we operate, "Hello newbie, welcome to your first day in Eve. Pod yourself to 0.0 and never look back!" if that's true.. gratz to you folks .. IF CCP made like 20 systems as rookie system where people learn and the rest as PVP systems. things would automatically work out fine. the biggest problem is concord... The really crazy thing is that anyone can do it. You don't need to be some massive nullsec empire with unlimited Technitium income to pull this off. Goonswarm started as a single corporation years ago living in the Verge Vendor region. The corp supplied its newbie pilots with unlimited free frigates paid for by the insurance income when they exploded. "Welcome to Goonfleet, here's your Kestrel (we didn't know any better back then), go blow something (yourself) up!" Every newbie was given a package with all the skillbooks they would need for the next several months, donated by older pilots. The corp was profitable on its own just from a small tax premium and in its first few months of operation introduced hundreds of new pilots to Eve Online. Most of the pilots today doing horrible evil things to you, even The Mittani, started as a baby goon being given his first frigate by an older pilot. Anyone can do this in Eve-Online, they just need to give a damn. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Tarsus Zateki GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 582	Posted - 2012.06.15 02:52:00 - [275] - Quote Maddy Joringer wrote: Quote: No way, you're teaching them to TANK? What about the Maximizing Yield 101 classes? still waiting for the reply on tanking mining barges .. You don't tank a mining barge. You tank yourself. Pay attention to the game, not whatever you're doing while tabbed out between miner cycles. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1033	Posted - 2012.06.15 02:53:00 - [276] - Quote Tarsus Zateki wrote: You don't tank a mining barge. You tank yourself. Pay attention to the game, not whatever you're doing while tabbed out between miner cycles. Well you can wait for CCP to tank it for you come the winter expansion ... Good job miners, you got a change though cheers Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Tarsus Zateki GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 582	Posted - 2012.06.15 02:54:00 - [277] - Quote Maddy Joringer wrote: Quote: "Welcome to Joringer Inc. Here's your complimentary Osprey for joining our growing community of miners. Be sure to fit the Shield Extender you've been provided with. If you do not have the skill needed to use a Shield Extender please take one from the corporate hanger. Be sure to insure your complimentary Osprey in the event that the evil Goonswarm attempt to blow it up. Our communal mining operations are every Saturday and Sunday evening at 20:00 Eve Time!" when all else fails...make it personal . this seems to be a trend with goonswarm folks around here .. This wasn't a personal attack. I was hoping it would inspire you. You claim newbie pilots can't interact with experienced pilots, that's not true; the older pilots just need to step up. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Tarsus Zateki GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 582	Posted - 2012.06.15 02:56:00 - [278] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Tarsus Zateki wrote: You don't tank a mining barge. You tank yourself. Pay attention to the game, not whatever you're doing while tabbed out between miner cycles. Well you can wait for CCP to tank it for you come the winter expansion ... Good job miners, you got a change though cheers Its not a bad change really. The harder your tank the lower your yield. Should have been how it was from the start. The real issue is that mining is so boring that miners are nearly forced to not actually play the game while doing. I don't actually feel bad about ganking them because no one actually forces you to do such a horribly dull job in Eve, its their own fault, but CCP could greatly improve affairs by making mining interesting game play. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 1896	Posted - 2012.06.15 02:57:00 - [279] - Quote Maddy Joringer wrote: Quote: No way, you're teaching them to TANK? What about the Maximizing Yield 101 classes? still waiting for the reply on tanking mining barges .. You can tank a Covetor such that it is uneconomical to gank it. 14.8k EHP vs Void. This will survive a solo T2 Catalyst gank. It may survive a pair of t1 Catalysts. Either way, it's more expensive to gank than the 2.5m bounty + 5m Isk drop it produces. [Covetor, Tank] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Damage Control II Medium Shield Extender II Strip Miner I Strip Miner I Strip Miner I Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Zainou 'Gypsy' Electronics EE-604 This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
Maddy Joringer United Society of Xziles The Skeleton Crew 10	Posted - 2012.06.15 02:59:00 - [280] - Quote Tarsus Zateki wrote: Maddy Joringer wrote: Quote: No way, you're teaching them to TANK? What about the Maximizing Yield 101 classes? still waiting for the reply on tanking mining barges .. You don't tank a mining barge. You tank yourself. Pay attention to the game, not whatever you're doing while tabbed out between miner cycles. Look... you still haven't given me a single ounce of proof that all miners are botters Blah blah blah... they stay tabbed out blah blah .. Just accept it... All this is for the lolz, the tears and the attention .. Ganking mining barges gives you nothing .. stop repeating the same lines..it just does not make sense.. Either prove most miners are bots, if you cant prove that. Then create some other fancy reason for this nonsense called Hulkageddon @RubyPorto - aah thnx for the fit ...
Tarsus Zateki GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 582	Posted - 2012.06.15 03:00:00 - [281] - Quote Maddy Joringer wrote: Tarsus Zateki wrote: Maddy Joringer wrote: Quote: No way, you're teaching them to TANK? What about the Maximizing Yield 101 classes? still waiting for the reply on tanking mining barges .. You don't tank a mining barge. You tank yourself. Pay attention to the game, not whatever you're doing while tabbed out between miner cycles. Look... you still haven't given me a single ounce of proof that all miners are botters Blah blah blah... they stay tabbed out blah blah .. Just accept it... All this is for the lolz, the tears and the attention .. Ganking mining barges gives you nothing .. stop repeating the same lines..it just does not make sense.. Either prove most miners are bots, if you cant prove that. Then create some other fancy reason for this nonsense called Hulkageddon Just keep moving those goal posts! If you move them far enough you might actually come out of this ahead. And what does Hulkageddon have to do with botters? Hulkageddon is a pretty simple concept. Some "evil" people have placed a bounty on T2 Barges. So we kill T2 Barges to get the bounty. The Hulk is what matters, whether they're botting or not is irrelevant. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 1896	Posted - 2012.06.15 03:00:00 - [282] - Quote Maddy Joringer wrote: Tarsus Zateki wrote: Maddy Joringer wrote: Quote: No way, you're teaching them to TANK? What about the Maximizing Yield 101 classes? still waiting for the reply on tanking mining barges .. You don't tank a mining barge. You tank yourself. Pay attention to the game, not whatever you're doing while tabbed out between miner cycles. Look... you still haven't given me a single ounce of proof that all miners are botters Blah blah blah... they stay tabbed out blah blah .. Just accept it... All this is for the lolz, the tears and the attention .. Ganking mining barges gives you nothing .. stop repeating the same lines..it just does not make sense.. Either prove most miners are bots, if you cant prove that. Then create some other fancy reason for this nonsense called Hulkageddon Cause it's fun. That's reason enough to do anything, seeing as this is a game. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
Maddy Joringer United Society of Xziles The Skeleton Crew 10	Posted - 2012.06.15 03:03:00 - [283] - Quote Tarsus Zateki wrote: Maddy Joringer wrote: Tarsus Zateki wrote: Maddy Joringer wrote: Quote: No way, you're teaching them to TANK? What about the Maximizing Yield 101 classes? still waiting for the reply on tanking mining barges .. You don't tank a mining barge. You tank yourself. Pay attention to the game, not whatever you're doing while tabbed out between miner cycles. Look... you still haven't given me a single ounce of proof that all miners are botters Blah blah blah... they stay tabbed out blah blah .. Just accept it... All this is for the lolz, the tears and the attention .. Ganking mining barges gives you nothing .. stop repeating the same lines..it just does not make sense.. Either prove most miners are bots, if you cant prove that. Then create some other fancy reason for this nonsense called Hulkageddon Just keep moving those goal posts! If you move them far enough you might actually come out of this ahead. After reading some of your posts i though you would have the intelligence to accept to at least leave new players alone to let them learn.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1033	Posted - 2012.06.15 03:04:00 - [284] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: Maddy Joringer wrote: Look... you still haven't given me a single ounce of proof that all miners are botters Blah blah blah... they stay tabbed out blah blah .. Just accept it... All this is for the lolz, the tears and the attention .. Ganking mining barges gives you nothing .. stop repeating the same lines..it just does not make sense.. Either prove most miners are bots, if you cant prove that. Then create some other fancy reason for this nonsense called Hulkageddon Cause it's fun. That's reason enough to do anything, seeing as this is a game. Posts like that make it all worth it. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Aramatheia European Nuthouse 42	Posted - 2012.06.15 03:06:00 - [285] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Tarsus Zateki wrote: You don't tank a mining barge. You tank yourself. Pay attention to the game, not whatever you're doing while tabbed out between miner cycles. Well you can wait for CCP to tank it for you come the winter expansion ... Good job miners, you got a change though cheers mining is still going to be lock a rock activate beam watch, wait... wait... move ore to orca/jetcan still not "emergent" gameplay /sigh lol Will in fact make it harder for ppl who genuinely want to screw with bots to do so, short of reporting them - which is boring
Tarsus Zateki GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 582	Posted - 2012.06.15 03:09:00 - [286] - Quote Maddy Joringer wrote: After reading some of your posts i though you would atleast accept to leave new players alone to let them learn the game without getting their expensive ships killed just for the lolz of some guy. Given that you continually flip flop on whatever it is that we're arguing anytime I start to dismantle one of your talking points I've pretty much just assumed you're a troll and everything for the last few pages has been sport on my part. Now change the subject again I grow tired of this game. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Aramatheia European Nuthouse 42	Posted - 2012.06.15 03:12:00 - [287] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: Maddy Joringer wrote: Quote: No way, you're teaching them to TANK? What about the Maximizing Yield 101 classes? still waiting for the reply on tanking mining barges .. You can tank a Covetor such that it is uneconomical to gank it. 14.8k EHP vs Void. This will survive a solo T2 Catalyst gank. It may survive a pair of t1 Catalysts. Either way, it's more expensive to gank than the 2.5m bounty + 5m Isk drop it produces. [Covetor, Tank] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Damage Control II Medium Shield Extender II Strip Miner I Strip Miner I Strip Miner I Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Zainou 'Gypsy' Electronics EE-604 nice fit, might copy paste that one, not sure where all my fitting power was going, t2 strips perhaps? or do they eat same attributes? I'm not immune to learning, im happy to learn, I have spent the past month training shield skills to max and training repper drones and shield boosting on my alt. Also last week for a laugh i entered and flew around in a wormhole i scanned down. I was sure to bookmark my exit but then buzzed around scanning a little, found some anomalies and such, but didnt have assets nearby i could use to actually do anything so i eventually left. The whole no communication beacon/no local thing was fun. Theres was a cheetah somewhere too, no doubt trying to find the random interloper in a probe lol
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 1897	Posted - 2012.06.15 03:12:00 - [288] - Quote Maddy Joringer wrote: Quote: Cause it's fun. That's reason enough to do anything, seeing as this is a game. its fun killing a new players who are learning the game .. i guess we all have our weard ways of having fun... these posts really does make it worth thinking if it was all useful to spend my time here try to reason with this stupidity of ganking mining barges If you're in a mining barge, you've played for at least two weeks. That's more than long enough to have learned: CCP Wrangler wrote: EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 1897	Posted - 2012.06.15 03:15:00 - [289] - Quote Aramatheia wrote: nice fit, might copy paste that one, not sure where all my fitting power was going, t2 strips perhaps? or do they eat same attributes? I'm not immune to learning, im happy to learn, I have spent the past month training shield skills to max and training repper drones and shield boosting on my alt. T2 is generally harder on fittings. With the implant, that fits fairly easily, I think. Didn't check by how much it fits. If you can get shield gang links from an Orca (or better yet, a Tengu), you'll have so much more tank. Rep drones and Active tanking are not the way to go for tanking/avoiding ganks. Buffer and real RR (from a ship, like an Osprey) is the creamy goodness. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
Devilish Ledoux GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 99	Posted - 2012.06.15 03:17:00 - [290] - Quote If you honestly think that mining is playing Eve, then I can only communicate with you in the universal language: Gunfire.
Maddy Joringer United Society of Xziles The Skeleton Crew 10	Posted - 2012.06.15 03:21:00 - [291] - Quote Tarsus Zateki wrote: Maddy Joringer wrote: After reading some of your posts i though you would atleast accept to leave new players alone to let them learn the game without getting their expensive ships killed just for the lolz of some guy. Given that you continually flip flop on whatever it is that we're arguing anytime I start to dismantle one of your talking points I've pretty much just assumed you're a troll and everything for the last few pages has been sport on my part. Now change the subject again I grow tired of this game. Saying "my way or the highway" isn't dismantling arguments .. All i have ever seen here is saying Goons did this Goons did that u should follow it coz we are awezomes.. You still havn't given me proof on your famous accusations " minerz are evil botz they should be keeeeleeed " . If you ever read the opening statement of the thread and some of the replies of your goon folks its clearly targeting an entire community and the result will be the game getting not fun for most of the new players .. but wait.. Be like goon swarm eh.. Attacking Hulks... i understand that better and got very little issues against it ... attacking mining barges..go right ahead , you might convince CCP to make them more survivable in the winter expansion....
InternetSpaceship GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 28	Posted - 2012.06.15 03:23:00 - [292] - Quote Maddy Joringer wrote: Quote: Cause it's fun. That's reason enough to do anything, seeing as this is a game. its fun killing a new players who are learning the game .. i guess we all have our weard ways of having fun... these posts really does make it worth thinking if it was all useful to spend my time here try to reason with this stupidity of ganking mining barges Yup. If you think those new players need help, start a corp to help them. There are countless vets in hisec that would help. Don't think it can be done in hisec? Do it in lowsec then. Almost the entire game world hates us, certainly you can find support. Official Recruiter for GoonSwarm Corporation. If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.-á If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you.
InternetSpaceship GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 28	Posted - 2012.06.15 03:25:00 - [293] - Quote Maddy Joringer wrote: Tarsus Zateki wrote: Maddy Joringer wrote: After reading some of your posts i though you would atleast accept to leave new players alone to let them learn the game without getting their expensive ships killed just for the lolz of some guy. Given that you continually flip flop on whatever it is that we're arguing anytime I start to dismantle one of your talking points I've pretty much just assumed you're a troll and everything for the last few pages has been sport on my part. Now change the subject again I grow tired of this game. Saying "my way or the highway" isn't dismantling arguments .. All i have ever seen here is saying Goons did this Goons did that u should follow it coz we are awezomes.. You still havn't given me proof on your famous accusations " minerz are evil botz they should be keeeeleeed " . If you ever read the opening statement of the thread and some of the replies of your goon folks its clearly targeting an entire community and the result will be the game getting not fun for most of the new players .. but wait.. Be like goon swarm eh.. Attacking Hulks... i understand that better and got very little issues against it ... attacking mining barges..go right ahead , you might convince CCP to make them more survivable in the winter expansion.... Doesn't matter why we pop them, the fact is that we do. Don't like it? Make a corp to stop us. Official Recruiter for GoonSwarm Corporation. If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.-á If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you.
Maddy Joringer United Society of Xziles The Skeleton Crew 10	Posted - 2012.06.15 03:27:00 - [294] - Quote InternetSpaceship wrote: Maddy Joringer wrote: Quote: Cause it's fun. That's reason enough to do anything, seeing as this is a game. its fun killing a new players who are learning the game .. i guess we all have our weard ways of having fun... these posts really does make it worth thinking if it was all useful to spend my time here try to reason with this stupidity of ganking mining barges Yup. If you think those new players need help, start a corp to help them. There are countless vets in hisec that would help. Don't think it can be done in hisec? Do it in lowsec then. Almost the entire game world hates us, certainly you can find support. I don't hate goonswarm for how they came to power. I just hate the concept of ganking, especially mining barges. Mitani did an awesome job on getting goonsworm to a superpower status. AM not here for the lulz or the tears.. Attacking an entire community is rather sad ...
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 1897	Posted - 2012.06.15 03:29:00 - [295] - Quote Maddy Joringer wrote: InternetSpaceship wrote: Maddy Joringer wrote: Quote: Cause it's fun. That's reason enough to do anything, seeing as this is a game. its fun killing a new players who are learning the game .. i guess we all have our weard ways of having fun... these posts really does make it worth thinking if it was all useful to spend my time here try to reason with this stupidity of ganking mining barges Yup. If you think those new players need help, start a corp to help them. There are countless vets in hisec that would help. Don't think it can be done in hisec? Do it in lowsec then. Almost the entire game world hates us, certainly you can find support. I don't hate goonswarm for how they came to power. I just hate the concept of ganking, especially mining barges. Mitani did an awesome job on getting goonsworm to a superpower status. AM not here for the lulz or the tears.. Attacking an entire community is rather sad ... If you hate the idea that violence can come at any time, in any form, no matter where you are, why are you playing a game whose core idea you hate? This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
Aramatheia European Nuthouse 42	Posted - 2012.06.15 03:37:00 - [296] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: Aramatheia wrote: nice fit, might copy paste that one, not sure where all my fitting power was going, t2 strips perhaps? or do they eat same attributes? I'm not immune to learning, im happy to learn, I have spent the past month training shield skills to max and training repper drones and shield boosting on my alt. T2 is generally harder on fittings. With the implant, that fits fairly easily, I think. Didn't check by how much it fits. If you can get shield gang links from an Orca (or better yet, a Tengu), you'll have so much more tank. Rep drones and Active tanking are not the way to go for tanking/avoiding ganks. Buffer and real RR (from a ship, like an Osprey) is the creamy goodness. gang links thats what i meant, im currently training the siege warfare skill on my orca alt, it will fly the harmonization gang link once im siege link spec 4 or whatever the true skill name is lol (i'll train to lvl 5 as well but i'll feel "safe" enough in space once lvl 4) Come to think of it everthing fitted to my covetor was t2 (except rigs) and i know what the cpu gulper was now.. yup, yield booster lol. I bet if i take that off my fittings flexibility would go all crazy like. Of course within 2 days i'll be ready to launch my hulk anyway (could do it now even but im patient) so covetor tanking is kind of moot lol. Is tengu a better booster than say, a command ship? i was also thinking of training my alt into command ships but i wont if theres better alternatives /shrug
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 1897	Posted - 2012.06.15 03:43:00 - [297] - Quote Aramatheia wrote: RubyPorto wrote: Aramatheia wrote: nice fit, might copy paste that one, not sure where all my fitting power was going, t2 strips perhaps? or do they eat same attributes? I'm not immune to learning, im happy to learn, I have spent the past month training shield skills to max and training repper drones and shield boosting on my alt. T2 is generally harder on fittings. With the implant, that fits fairly easily, I think. Didn't check by how much it fits. If you can get shield gang links from an Orca (or better yet, a Tengu), you'll have so much more tank. Rep drones and Active tanking are not the way to go for tanking/avoiding ganks. Buffer and real RR (from a ship, like an Osprey) is the creamy goodness. gang links thats what i meant, im currently training the siege warfare skill on my orca alt, it will fly the harmonization gang link once im siege link spec 4 or whatever the true skill name is lol (i'll train to lvl 5 as well but i'll feel "safe" enough in space once lvl 4) Come to think of it everthing fitted to my covetor was t2 (except rigs) and i know what the cpu gulper was now.. yup, yield booster lol. I bet if i take that off my fittings flexibility would go all crazy like. Of course within 2 days i'll be ready to launch my hulk anyway (could do it now even but im patient) so covetor tanking is kind of moot lol. Is tengu a better booster than say, a command ship? i was also thinking of training my alt into command ships but i wont if theres better alternatives /shrug Command ships give a 3%/level bonus to their respective boosting. T3s give a 5%/level bonus. You'll also have to tank your hulk. You'll actually have to tank your Hulk much better, because the income from ganking it is higher, so you can spend more to gank it and still turn a profit. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
InternetSpaceship GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 28	Posted - 2012.06.15 03:45:00 - [298] - Quote Maddy Joringer wrote: InternetSpaceship wrote: Maddy Joringer wrote: Quote: Cause it's fun. That's reason enough to do anything, seeing as this is a game. its fun killing a new players who are learning the game .. i guess we all have our weard ways of having fun... these posts really does make it worth thinking if it was all useful to spend my time here try to reason with this stupidity of ganking mining barges Yup. If you think those new players need help, start a corp to help them. There are countless vets in hisec that would help. Don't think it can be done in hisec? Do it in lowsec then. Almost the entire game world hates us, certainly you can find support. I don't hate goonswarm for how they came to power. I just hate the concept of ganking, especially mining barges. Mitani did an awesome job on getting goonsworm to a superpower status. AM not here for the lulz or the tears.. Attacking an entire community is rather sad ... Right. So I'm saying get those miners together with some combat vets and work together. We mine all the high end **** in Hulks in our space because we have competent intel and a POS in the same system. There is no reason everyone else can't do the same. Stop mining in hisec space. You get ganked and can't preemptively fight back. Everyone knows this, so stop doing it. Official Recruiter for GoonSwarm Corporation. If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.-á If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you.
Ludi Burek The Player Haters Corp 119	Posted - 2012.06.15 03:45:00 - [299] - Quote Short story. Being busy with RL, I hardly played eve during the last few months. Yesterday I thought, what the hell I have a bunch of thrashers here, may as well blow them on some mackinaws. Ice belts are empty these days though, but soon enough I find two macks and orca mining away. Didn't even bother to scan them and just warped in with a thrasher and opened on one. He went down very easy. Hardly surprising since he had no midslot modules. After all this time, people still mine like that. So I go back to jump into another thrasher while my alt is watching cloaked, keeping the warp in point warm. The guy continues pod mining. About 20 minutes later, the other mackinaw pilot starts smacking in russian and the pod warps out. While I'm en route with a new thrasher, 12 jumps, the pod returns with a brand new mack. Everyone still in the same spot. They not even mining. I see no laser effects. Finally, the thrasher arrives and I pop the other mack. Don't want to be accused of picking on one pilot. Also, no tank. Managed to kill his pod too. My alt travels 5 jumps to get a salvager module. I wasn't really prepared. Come back, salvage the wrecks. The guys are still there. If I had time I would have returned with another thrasher but I couldn't be bothered. What's the point of this story? To show what kind of imbeciles people are screaming in outrage about protecting. How the **** anyone can have sympathy for these creatures, I cannot understand.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 1898	Posted - 2012.06.15 03:47:00 - [300] - Quote Ludi Burek wrote: What's the point of this story? To show what kind of imbeciles people are screaming in outrage about protecting. How the **** anyone can have sympathy for these creatures, I cannot understand. You're kidding me. You used a thrasher? This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.

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