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Lana's Alt Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.11.11 06:59:00 - [31] Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde This popcorn is delicious... Enjoying watching the smear campaign against this respectable merc corp that you instigated coming to completion are you? From the head of one of the best thought of merc corp around I would have expected a little more class Alek. Istvaan Shogaatsu: As with most such situations the answer is simple: rob them first.
The'Best Hellfury Incura	Posted - 2009.11.11 07:36:00 - [32] Heh, it takes someone truly awful to unite all of C&P. ALEKSEYEV KARRDE FOR CSM
Lana's Alt Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.11.11 09:06:00 - [33] Originally by: The'Best Hellfury Heh, it takes someone truly awful to unite all of C&P. Typical pro Alex response from one of him many lackeys. I expected more from you Lexa. Istvaan Shogaatsu: As with most such situations the answer is simple: rob them first.
The'Best Hellfury Incura	Posted - 2009.11.11 09:22:00 - [34] Originally by: Lana's Alt Originally by: The'Best Hellfury Heh, it takes someone truly awful to unite all of C&P. Typical pro Alex response from one of him many lackeys. I expected more from you Lexa. I didn't expect more of your grammar. I wasn't disappointed. ALEKSEYEV KARRDE FOR CSM
Ezien	Posted - 2009.11.11 09:34:00 - [35] Originally by: Paul Clavet Here is a link to the thread that F-OFF apparently was able to get vanished. I stand by my poor review, since Damien decided it would be easier to beg CCP to delete his bad reviews than to own up to the shortcomings of his merc corp. And after Damien admitted he should not have accepted the contract in the first place and refunded your ISK, and even after having a 3rd party offer to act as a moderator to resolve the issue, you're still angry about it? So since we're here in this not so shiny new thread, how about we settle this once and for all? I challenge you to *a wrastlin' match.* What? There's already plenty of mud here...
Roastedpot Blutkinder	Posted - 2009.11.11 17:48:00 - [36] Originally by: Ezien Originally by: Paul Clavet Here is a link to the thread that F-OFF apparently was able to get vanished. I stand by my poor review, since Damien decided it would be easier to beg CCP to delete his bad reviews than to own up to the shortcomings of his merc corp. And after Damien admitted he should not have accepted the contract in the first place and refunded your ISK a few months later after his thread was ripped a new one.
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.11 19:48:00 - [37] Well its nice to know I have a rather popular merc thread. At least everyone is keeping it on the front page and I get plenty of contract offers STILL despite all the mud. Thank you for making business possible and keeping my thread on top. I have all the trolls and the "lets roast F-OFF" lackey to thank for making our business flourish and possible.
Ezien	Posted - 2009.11.11 20:58:00 - [38] Edited by: Ezien on 11/11/2009 20:59:42 I've never bought the saying "Any publicity is good publicity," but part of a merc's job tends to involve stirring people up, so maybe it applies here. Either way, in before trolls troll Damien's last trollbait to trollland.
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.12 18:58:00 - [39] We have a few contracts lined up so if you have a long term problem, consider us for solving it in about..... 2-3 weeks? Business is good :-)
BrutorCitizen3037	Posted - 2009.11.12 19:53:00 - [40] Who's the biggest scammer Noir. or F-OFF

DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.13 22:14:00 - [41] Still looking to book some contracts. Still booked till the 22nd.
Alekseyev Karrde Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.11.14 00:32:00 - [42] Originally by: BrutorCitizen3037 Who's the biggest scammer Noir. or F-OFF Maru, it only works if you use DIFFERENT ALTS than your nonsense spam threads. Keep trying though, it's kind of cute. Bump for Damien --- Zombie Apocalypse Guitar-Wielding Superteam
Paul Clavet Honorless Internet Jerks	Posted - 2009.11.14 02:14:00 - [43] Originally by: Ezien Originally by: Paul Clavet Here is a link to the thread that F-OFF apparently was able to get vanished. I stand by my poor review, since Damien decided it would be easier to beg CCP to delete his bad reviews than to own up to the shortcomings of his merc corp. And after Damien admitted he should not have accepted the contract in the first place and refunded your ISK, and even after having a 3rd party offer to act as a moderator to resolve the issue, you're still angry about it?] Damien refunded less than one-tenth of the war on enemy carebears that I paid for. Damien did not even tell his corpmates about the POS takedown that I paid him the night before to assist with, so his "all hands WERE on deck!" excuse is a lie, and a weak one at that. Even if the war was indeed a well-intentioned misstep on his part, he did not meet ANY of the conditions of the contract, including the promise he made to send me regular reports on progress. All I got was excuses after the fact about how "hunting carebears is hard, man" while I was looking at a half-dozen carebear kills that we accomplished without them. That third-party moderator you speak of? He's a friend of mine, but his involvement was limited to convo'ing me and saying, "Hey, stop it." Some moderation. F-OFF failed completely in my particular campaign. It wasn't just that they didn't kill the targets, or that they didn't communicate with me as agreed. The problem I have with F-OFF is that at any point they could have said "We were full of fail, but we want to move on. Here's a complete refund with no hard feelings." Instead, they paid back 50M of 600M sent, then instead of addressing my valid concerns about their inability to fulfill their promises, they called me a troll and started a new thread without the feedback. By the way, Damien, one of the first things I said to you when we met was that I would be giving a full review either way the contract turned out. You were excited about the opportunity to get a good review. If you'd like me to post a pastebin of the log in which you agreed to a full review for better or worse, I'd be happy to dig it up. But you won't, you'll call me a troll and dismiss your own failures. I guess that means that I was the only one between us that kept his promise. Potential clients: Hire them if you like. Maybe they'll eventually claw their way into adequacy. Just don't give your money with any expectations, because the moment the going gets tough (even if that just means that they never tell their corpmates about the contract) they'll bail out, cease communication, then attempt to hide their shame through re-made threads full of "A+++ WOULD BUY FROM AGAIN" from corpmates and merc friends who never even hired them. Want me to go away? I'd like the rest of the money back, and a public apology for the Golf Foxtrot that was your performance and lack of diligence during the contract. ---- Blog: My Loot, Your Tears
Le Soltueur Underworld Excavators	Posted - 2009.11.14 02:46:00 - [44] Originally by: Paul Clavet That third-party moderator you speak of? He's a friend of mine, but his involvement was limited to convo'ing me and saying, "Hey, stop it." Some moderation. Just for the record, I made the offer to moderate. Neither of the parties took me up on it in any official capacity. And yes, Paul is a friend. Stubborn as an old, mangy jackass, but a friend. ♥
Michael Hoare	Posted - 2009.11.14 02:54:00 - [45] After long and careful consideration, and taking into account their recent combat record and the comments on this thread, I must stand by my early statement : These Clowns Suck! Anyone who hires this group can expect nothing but failure and excuses. I would rate this Mercenary Corporation at 20 out of a possible 100.
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.14 04:34:00 - [46] Originally by: Paul Clavet Blah Blah Blah For the sake of being professional and keeping F-OFF in some sort of positive light I have refrained from lowering myself to a certain level of behavior and saying certain things on the forums. This changes now. F-OFF quite frankly doesn't give a $h!t what you think of us. We don't care that you are going to bring up the same mute points over and over again, and we don't care that you think we are a horrible awful corp. We can kill ships. We can kill lots of ships many times over again. If you want us to kill specific ships, we wont. We will kill what undocks and what stays undocked with whatever fittings are on it. Our low efficiency stems from the fact that we lose ships like everyone else. We just happen to lose T2 ships that are T2 fitted. Or in my personal experiences, I lose T2 ships that are faction fitted. We are not in the merc business for stats, we are not in it for the isk. We are in the Merc business so we can kill things. Paul, you wont shut up till you get "paid back" in full. You never will get what you want. Stop trying. For all the trolls, troll away. We will still get contracts, we will still get business and we will still kill many ships no matter where we go or what we do. We have been in 0.0 and kill there. Blob fest, titans dooms days, cap ship battles, roaming gangs, fleet battles, we have been there, done that, and over all, we have done it well. Now STFU and give us something to shoot.
Paul Clavet Honorless Internet Jerks	Posted - 2009.11.14 04:45:00 - [47] Originally by: DamienEx Edited by: DamienEx on 14/11/2009 04:36:23 Originally by: Paul Clavet Blah Blah Blah For the sake of being professional and keeping F-OFF in some sort of positive light I have refrained from lowering myself to a certain level of behavior and saying certain things on the forums. This changes now. F-OFF quite frankly doesn't give a $h!t what you think of us. We don't care that you are going to bring up the same mute points over and over again, and we don't care that you think we are a horrible awful corp. We can kill ships. We can kill lots of ships many times over again. If you want us to kill specific ships, we wont. We will kill what undocks and what stays undocked with whatever fittings are on it. Our low efficiency stems from the fact that we lose ships like everyone else. We just happen to lose T2 ships that are T2 fitted. Or in my personal experiences, I lose T2 ships that are faction fitted. We are not in the merc business for stats, we are not in it for the isk. We are in the Merc business so we can kill things. Paul, you wont shut up till you get "paid back" in full. You never will get what you want. Stop trying. For all the trolls, troll away. We will still get contracts, we will still get business and we will still kill many ships no matter where we go or what we do. We have been in 0.0 and kill there. Blob fest, titans dooms days, cap ship battles, roaming gangs, fleet battles, we have been there, done that, and over all, we have done it well. Now STFU and give us something to shoot. EDIT: By the way.... READ THE CORP TICKER Quoting to etch it in stone forever. I suppose that if "not delivering on promises, then keeping the money and telling the client to pound sand" is a "mute" (sic) point, then your ability and professionalism as a merc corp are established firmly. Wow, man. Just wow. ---- Blog: My Loot, Your Tears
Ignus Viator Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.14 04:54:00 - [48] Originally by: Paul Clavet But you won't, you'll call me a troll and dismiss your own failures. I guess that means that I was the only one between us that kept his promise. You've repeated yourselves so many times now dude. sorry you didn't like how things turned out, but time to get up and move on, be a big boy. we won't be taking another "kill missioning/miners" contract again." When war decced any people with sense will be on the look out in local, mission running/mining will be very minimal, if not completely halted. I tried scanning some down myself... but good luck with that in a mission hub system with 70, 90, over 100 people in local running missions. You try scanning them out and then tell me how it goes. Trust me, we won't be doing it again. Another thing we won't be doing again is trying taking a contract against a corporation that lives in wormhole space. i'll say again you've posted your review, now we will go on our seperate ways. We didn't "dismiss them" we admited to them. we said shouldn't have taken the contract, we killed ****, not the right targets. we wouldn't back off a juicy fleet to kill... you've gotta be kidding me if you expected us to avoid the "easily avoidable" war decced targets. short version: Sorry, K? bye
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.14 05:01:00 - [49] Edited by: DamienEx on 14/11/2009 05:01:38 Originally by: Paul Clavet Quoting to etch it in stone forever. I suppose that if "not delivering on promises, then keeping the money and telling the client to pound sand" is a "mute" (sic) point, then your ability and professionalism as a merc corp are established firmly. Wow, man. Just wow. Ive learned my lesson. Don't accept contracts with ret4rded conditions from employers who expect me to take time out of my real life schedule to contact you out of game with a bunch of details you could have found out for yourself by looking at our kill board. Ill change the merc description for our thread to include that we no longer make promises, only kill mails. Quite frankly I haven't had a complaint out of anyone who has employed us besides yourself. Now keep pounding sand... maybe you can attract enough attention to yourself. Or better yet, go hire another merc corp to shoot us. Hire all of them to shoot us. We might die, but hell... well have a good time doing it. On your dollar too :-) Oh did i say that last part out loud?
Paul Clavet Honorless Internet Jerks	Posted - 2009.11.14 05:05:00 - [50] Originally by: Ignus Viator Originally by: Paul Clavet But you won't, you'll call me a troll and dismiss your own failures. I guess that means that I was the only one between us that kept his promise. You've repeated yourselves so many times now dude. sorry you didn't like how things turned out, but time to get up and move on, be a big boy. we won't be taking another "kill missioning/miners" contract again." When war decced any people with sense will be on the look out in local, mission running/mining will be very minimal, if not completely halted. I tried scanning some down myself... but good luck with that in a mission hub system with 70, 90, over 100 people in local running missions. You try scanning them out and then tell me how it goes. Trust me, we won't be doing it again. Another thing we won't be doing again is trying taking a contract against a corporation that lives in wormhole space. i'll say again you've posted your review, now we will go on our seperate ways. We didn't "dismiss them" we admited to them. we said shouldn't have taken the contract, we killed ****, not the right targets. we wouldn't back off a juicy fleet to kill... you've gotta be kidding me if you expected us to avoid the "easily avoidable" war decced targets. short version: Sorry, K? bye You realize that we killed half a dozen of their missionbear ships by doing exactly what you and your CEO said could not be done, right? I'm sorry... was it too hard for you? Yes? Then the proper response is "Our bad. Here's your refund, and sorry for the trouble." not "Well, guess we won't try that again. Thanks for the money, now stop giving the review that was agreed to at the beginning of the contract!" So tell me, are there any other circumstances under which you, as a mercenary corp that wants to remain a going concern, would be willing to take the money and stop returning the client's proverbial calls? How is any client with any criteria other than "Eh, here's half a bil. Go kill our enemies. If you think it's easy enough and you want to actually tell your pilots to show up." supposed to trust you to actually give a flip about what you're being paid to do? ---- Blog: My Loot, Your Tears

DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.14 05:20:00 - [51] Edited by: DamienEx on 14/11/2009 05:20:21 Originally by: Paul Clavet Blah Blah Blah pt2 Despite your feeble attempts to make us look like any less capable of a merc corp than anyone else out there, which you have failed to do, I once again point out, we are getting contacted for contracts, and we are fulfilling the clients desires. All you are doing at this point is keeping our thread at the top of C+P and getting us more publicity. And while your out 600mil isk, we are happily paying our pilots for losses, insurance, getting new ships, helping our corp mates, and resting easy knowing that no matter what you do or say, we will get business, we will get contracts, and we will continue to kill things left and right with no regard for who it is. Rant and rave all you want. Were not going anywhere.
Ignus Viator Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.14 05:29:00 - [52] Edited by: Ignus Viator on 14/11/2009 05:34:17 Edited by: Ignus Viator on 14/11/2009 05:32:51 Edited by: Ignus Viator on 14/11/2009 05:32:18 Originally by: Paul Clavet Originally by: Ignus Viator Originally by: Paul Clavet But you won't, you'll call me a troll and dismiss your own failures. I guess that means that I was the only one between us that kept his promise. You've repeated yourselves so many times now dude. sorry you didn't like how things turned out, but time to get up and move on, be a big boy. we won't be taking another "kill missioning/miners" contract again." When war decced any people with sense will be on the look out in local, mission running/mining will be very minimal, if not completely halted. I tried scanning some down myself... but good luck with that in a mission hub system with 70, 90, over 100 people in local running missions. You try scanning them out and then tell me how it goes. Trust me, we won't be doing it again. Another thing we won't be doing again is trying taking a contract against a corporation that lives in wormhole space. i'll say again you've posted your review, now we will go on our seperate ways. We didn't "dismiss them" we admited to them. we said shouldn't have taken the contract, we killed ****, not the right targets. we wouldn't back off a juicy fleet to kill... you've gotta be kidding me if you expected us to avoid the "easily avoidable" war decced targets. short version: Sorry, K? bye You realize that we killed half a dozen of their missionbear ships by doing exactly what you and your CEO said could not be done, right? I'm sorry... was it too hard for you? Yes? Then the proper response is "Our bad. Here's your refund, and sorry for the trouble." not "Well, guess we won't try that again. Thanks for the money, now stop giving the review that was agreed to at the beginning of the contract!" So tell me, are there any other circumstances under which you, as a mercenary corp that wants to remain a going concern, would be willing to take the money and stop returning the client's proverbial calls? How is any client with any criteria other than "Eh, here's half a bil. Go kill our enemies. If you think it's easy enough and you want to actually tell your pilots to show up." supposed to trust you to actually give a flip about what you're being paid to do? oh wow you killed half a dozen mission ships? good job there man! thats 6.... we killed over 6 ships the first night. the total came to 54 ships causing over 4 billion isk of damage. How i see it. you hired us to cause damage, you paid us around 600 million i believe we refunded you 50 mil, we caused over 6 times the damage of what it cost you to hire us. you paid us in full with the bonus of isk per carebear kills, which we never got. DONE DEAL! we're not giving you money back unless somehow u can magically give us our playtime back for the time we spent war deccing them. GL with that. sorry but i'm not the smartest guy. and you use really big words proverbial callings? proverbial? are you a prophet?. seriously stop being dramatic and all but hurt. Proper is relative, so thats the proper response in your mind. again you've dragged this on and on and on beyond belief and beaten it to death the PROPER thing to do is to MOVE ON. but who can say whats proper ;)
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.14 05:33:00 - [53] Edited by: DamienEx on 14/11/2009 05:33:40 Originally by: Ignus Viator again you've dragged this on and on and on beyond belief and beaten it to death the PROPER thing to do is to MOVE ON. but who can say whats proper ;) I think the word your looking for is.... B( . )( . )BIES!!!
Lana's Alt Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.11.14 09:39:00 - [54] Originally by: Michael Hoare After long and careful consideration, and taking into account their recent combat record and the comments on this thread, I must stand by my early statement : These Clowns Suck! Anyone who hires this group can expect nothing but failure and excuses. I would rate this Mercenary Corporation at 20 out of a possible 100. You should start a web page with independent ratings of all the available merc corps and the type of jobs they do.. Who to contact, expected price range, etc... Actually, _I_ should be doing that! Istvaan Shogaatsu: As with most such situations the answer is simple: rob them first.
Shade Millith Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.11.14 10:22:00 - [55] Wait, so let's get this straight. - You got hired to kill a specific target (Mission runners) - You agreed to the contract - You didn't kill the specific targets (Mission runners) - Got hired again to help take down a tower - Nobody in the merc corp was told about the contract, so only two guys show up - You don't refund isk - You are shocked and appalled that the contracter is ****ed --------------------------------------------
Shinishi	Posted - 2009.11.14 16:53:00 - [56] Edited by: Shinishi on 14/11/2009 16:53:25
Scatha Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.14 18:27:00 - [57] Edited by: Scatha on 14/11/2009 18:29:21 Originally by: Shade Millith Edited by: Shade Millith on 14/11/2009 10:54:21 Wait, so let's get this straight. - You got hired to kill a specific target (Mission runners) - You agreed to the contract - You didn't kill the specific targets (Mission runners) - Got hired again to help take down a tower - Leadership in the merc corp didn't tell the others about the contract, so only two guys show up - You don't refund isk - You are shocked and appalled that the contracter is ****ed 1. Kill Specific targets - Yes, but he was real picky on what was considered a mission fit...any ship that had a webifier in the mid slots was considered by our employer as "PvP" fit. 2. Yep. 3. See number 1. 4. Yup. 5. We had 9 guys on to help the night the tower went into reinforced and were told to not go in because "Another Merc corp was hired to deal with the tower guns." We DID help put said tower into reinforced, tower not fully stronted. Our job was to kill any support that tried to come in and then help with the tower once guns were down. I lead the F-OFF guys on this op. The two guys to show up when the tower came out of reinforced were the only two on from what I've been told. 6. We're not refunding isk, due to time spent and isk for the dec. Price of doing business. He's a fool if he thinks he's getting back more than the 60m. 7. Not surprised, but crying about it isn't going to change anything. Flame away.
Michael Hoare	Posted - 2009.11.14 18:54:00 - [58] First and foremost I would recomend that F-OFF take some of the merc fees they've conned people out of and invest in a whole truckload of non-bunching/non-twisting panties. ***ers. Secondly I would prepare for a whole world of hurt to be heading toward F-OFF any day soon now. You see, this thread has reached critical mass. . . and I am certain that any moment now someone big and nasty will notice that F-OFF fits their PvP ships with very tasty and profitable deadspace loot. Wiping out a few losers and making off with a few billion in salvage sounds like a great way to spend the weekend! Go back to ganking newbs, leave the mercenary work to. . .well, just about anyone but you.
Srialia Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.11.14 19:37:00 - [59] Edited by: Srialia on 14/11/2009 19:39:38 Originally by: Ignus Viator oh wow you killed half a dozen mission ships? good job there man! thats 6.... we killed over 6 ships the first night. the total came to 54 ships causing over 4 billion isk of damage. How i see it. you hired us to cause damage. Incorrect. He hired you to kill mission runners. You repeatedly charged headlong into their group of 8 pvp pilots station/gate camping us to prevent ninja salvaging. The alliance we were fighting was mostly carebears, and they wanted to "teach us a lesson" because they concorded a couple of their big ships trying to kill one of our salvage frigates one night. Only a few of them were actually interested in pvping. We wanted to dishearten their alliance and break their will to fund the war, boring their pvpers out of their minds while making their pve-ers and miners sad and broke. We wanted to destroy their supply lines, murder their women and children. Paul hired you to help with the guerilla war. You said "OK, thanks for the money, now we line up like the British Redcoats and march to the front line!" Not only did you not do what you were hired to do, you undermined our campaign by making their pvpers' lives more exciting. But the reasons don't even really matter. You were hired to do something specific. If it was too specific, you should not have accepted the contract. You accepted the contract and did not deliver. Own up and make amends or expect a terrible reputation. And yes, 6 mission ships is not a big deal. So again, why do you guys keep harping on how difficult it was to find mission ships to kill? Can't have it both ways. Quote: again you've dragged this on and on and on beyond belief and beaten it to death the PROPER thing to do is to MOVE ON. but who can say whats proper ;) The proper thing to do is to make sure everyone thinking about hiring you knows to expect excuses and poor performance. The proper thing for YOU to do is give Paul a refund, letting the entire community know that if you don't honor your end of the contract, you at least don't expect the other party to honor theirs.
MicroWarpdrive II the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.11.14 20:21:00 - [60] stfu Paul Clavet, your whining hurts my **ing eyes. there's so much worse ** that could have happened and your making a huge deal out of this? seriously gtfo of their thread.



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