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DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.10 06:18:00 - [1] Federation of Freedom Fighters: F-OFF You Pay: We Deliver F-OFF is ready to fill any Merc job you have to give us. We are equipped to kill, maim, destroy, and any word that implies destruction. Price varies greatly depending on the contract. US time zones covered. Services Offered -War Decs (alliance or corp: price will vary) -Territorial Assault (all security space) -Asset Assault -POS Destruction (small/medium, large in low-sec or 0.0, no Worm hole) note Don't ask for a quote unless you are ready to pay Billions in order to cover Dreadnoughts -Custom Contracts Contact DamienEx in-game for details, discussions, and negotiations. You can also join the channel "F-OFF Contract" and follow the directions there if I am unavailable. If you are interested in assisting us with contracts you can also contact me with inquiries as to join F-OFF. Killboard Current Operations Current Contract: War Dec, End- November 15th, Possible Week Extension On Deck: War Dec, Start November 15th, End Nov 22nd Contract History War Dec -New Eden Regimental Navy -The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre -Aeon of Strife -Deadspace Society -Overtime Alliance POS Take Down -Takmahl Discovery Custom -Mostly Harmless
Lana's Alt Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.11.10 06:19:00 - [2] I for one welcome this new merc corp in to the industry. Good luck and happy hunting. Istvaan Shogaatsu: As with most such situations the answer is simple: rob them first.
Michael Hoare	Posted - 2009.11.10 10:16:00 - [3] -oh wow! Were'nt there like four additional pages to this thread, mostly about how much these people sucked? I pointed out their massive suckage in the last thread. . .
Bai ZongTong HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.11.10 10:33:00 - [4] u guys do courier missions? HYDRA RELOADED 2009: APPLY TODAY. JOIN THE WINNING SIDE.
Jack Dant Minmatar The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre	Posted - 2009.11.10 12:09:00 - [5] Originally by: DamienEx Contract History War Dec -The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre I would like to point out that, while you were indeed hired to dec us last summer, and did so, you never pursued the war. You only killed 2 ships in a whole week (and lost one), and both times it was our corp members getting tired of waiting for you to show up and going 20 jumps to find you. In the meantime, your clients kept losing ships to us all over the place. All in all, a most dissapointing performance, and one you should not brag about.
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.11.10 12:19:00 - [6] Killboard looks fairly disappointing. Seems like there is only 5-6 guys active tops, and that you are averaging a mere 2 kills per day. Doesn't seem like you have much firepower at all. Good luck though. ---
Natasja Podinski	Posted - 2009.11.10 13:09:00 - [7] We are not alone to defy we stand, and those who push us down will die. Under a blackened sky. We light the torches and we hear the sound... Of the soundtrack to the rebellion Kill Lootex Lexa Hellfury for CSM
Miyamoto Isoruku Caldari The Phoenix Enclave	Posted - 2009.11.10 14:10:00 - [8] Originally by: Natasja Podinski We are not alone to defy we stand, and those who push us down will die. Under a blackened sky. We light the torches and we hear the sound... Of the soundtrack to the rebellion Kill Lootex cool story bro
Lana's Alt Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.11.10 14:15:00 - [9] Originally by: Suitonia Killboard looks fairly disappointing. Seems like there is only 5-6 guys active tops, and that you are averaging a mere 2 kills per day. Doesn't seem like you have much firepower at all. Good luck though. Perhaps its the target selection? You cant kill people lots of they don't undock.. I saw we give them a better choice in targets. Istvaan Shogaatsu: As with most such situations the answer is simple: rob them first.
Roastedpot Blutkinder	Posted - 2009.11.10 16:01:00 - [10] Originally by: Lana's Alt Originally by: Suitonia Killboard looks fairly disappointing. Seems like there is only 5-6 guys active tops, and that you are averaging a mere 2 kills per day. Doesn't seem like you have much firepower at all. Good luck though. Perhaps its the target selection? You cant kill people lots of they don't undock.. I saw we give them a better choice in targets. he could be refering to a whopping 3 contracts with a positive efficiency, with a max of 4b damage done (against Deadspace?) and the stunning 15 losses no kills on mostly harmless. great mercs, recommended for sure.

Ignus Viator Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.10 16:31:00 - [11] sometimes who we are hired to kill have a different peak play time then we do. notice the mostly harmless contract is under custom it was by no means a war dec/kill contract. our objective was not to get kills.
Bai ZongTong HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.11.10 16:43:00 - [12] these guys have terribel efficiency and customer serivce. i asked about contract but never replied in many hours. HIGHLY DO NOT REOMMEND. HYDRA RELOADED 2009: APPLY TODAY. JOIN THE WINNING SIDE.
Jack Dant Minmatar The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre	Posted - 2009.11.10 17:40:00 - [13] Originally by: Ignus Viator our objective was not to get kills. In that case, it looks like a resounding success.
Ignus Viator Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.10 18:18:00 - [14] Originally by: Bai ZongTong these guys have terribel efficiency and customer serivce. i asked about contract but never replied in many hours. HIGHLY DO NOT REOMMEND. sorry we didnt respond to your contract request within a few hours.... some of us work full time jobs and go to college . how long exactly is 'many hours'?
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.10 18:19:00 - [15] Edited by: DamienEx on 10/11/2009 18:20:22 Originally by: Michael Hoare -oh wow! Were'nt there like four additional pages to this thread, mostly about how much these people sucked? I pointed out their massive suckage in the last thread. . . Where was the wonderful amount of proof that you were going to provide to back up a single one of your claims. Originally by: Bai ZongTong these guys have terribel efficiency and customer serivce. i asked about contract but never replied in many hours. HIGHLY DO NOT REOMMEND. Aww another troll. Originally by: Jack Dant I would like to point out that, while you were indeed hired to dec us last summer, and did so, you never pursued the war. You only killed 2 ships in a whole week (and lost one), and both times it was our corp members getting tired of waiting for you to show up and going 20 jumps to find you. In the meantime, your clients kept losing ships to us all over the place. All in all, a most dissapointing performance, and one you should not brag about. With you guys it was kinda..... eh. Your primarily a UK corp right? Were US. Time difference didn't really help. So You waiting for us to log on and we were hoping you were still awake. Originally by: Roastedpot he could be refering to a whopping 3 contracts with a positive efficiency, with a max of 4b damage done (against Deadspace?) and the stunning 15 losses no kills on mostly harmless. great mercs, recommended for sure. With Mostly Harmless we were paid to get killed :-) Judging response times, findign gate camps, all the good stuff. Originally by: Suitonia Killboard looks fairly disappointing. Seems like there is only 5-6 guys active tops, and that you are averaging a mere 2 kills per day. Doesn't seem like you have much firepower at all. Good luck though. Try looking at this page. F-OFF Stats Anyone else want to jump on the lets try to make F-OFF look bad/troll F-OFF bandwagon?
Ignus Viator Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.10 18:27:00 - [16] Originally by: Jack Dant Originally by: Ignus Viator our objective was not to get kills. In that case, it looks like a resounding success. sorry i do no know u. likewise you do not know the details of the contract nor can i discuss them with you. therefore you cannot judge the success of the contract
Bai ZongTong HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.11.10 18:35:00 - [17] Originally by: Ignus Viator Originally by: Bai ZongTong these guys have terribel efficiency and customer serivce. i asked about contract but never replied in many hours. HIGHLY DO NOT REOMMEND. sorry we didnt respond to your contract request within a few hours.... some of us work full time jobs and go to college . how long exactly is 'many hours'? m8 dun think ur sooo good coz u goto college n stuff. I GOTO COLLEGE TOO!!!! also many hours is from my post time 10:33:00 to 16:43:00. also since u made posting on 16:31:00, i see you are very unprofesional and chose not to respond to my contract request. or mb its too hard 4 u guys? HYDRA RELOADED 2009: APPLY TODAY. JOIN THE WINNING SIDE.
Jack Dant Minmatar The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre	Posted - 2009.11.10 19:05:00 - [18] Originally by: DamienEx With you guys it was kinda..... eh. Your primarily a UK corp right? Were US. Time difference didn't really help. So You waiting for us to log on and we were hoping you were still awake. So you will accept all contracts, but only fulfill them if they are convenient? That we were EU timezone would be obvious from our killboard. Quote: Try looking at this page. F-OFF Stats It's interesting how none of the top systems of all time are in the current month list. Actually, most of them are 0.0, with no recent kills in there. And how, of the top pilots on your killboard, none of them are still in your corp. Seems to me you are trying to build a credible merc reputation on the 0.0 kills of some people who aren't even in your corp anymore.
Ignus Viator Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.10 20:02:00 - [19] Originally by: Bai ZongTong m8 dun think ur sooo good coz u goto college n stuff. I GOTO COLLEGE TOO!!!! also many hours is from my post time 10:33:00 to 16:43:00. also since u made posting on 16:31:00, i see you are very unprofesional and chose not to respond to my contract request. or mb its too hard 4 u guys? First off, im only your 'm8' if you pay me to be. second i never said i am in college, im not, our contract manager is. third i never implied i was better than anyone. im not im lowest on the totem pole in the corp. i have no say in what contracts we take and am not the one responsible to respond to your request so stop personally attacking me i came here to address the issues ppl brought up. Also notice we are currently booked for the next week or two. seriously, sorry for not responding as fast as u would like we will contact you soon. Not directed at anybody specific but Please leave the thread if your intent is to troll, you havn't worked with us, you don't plan on hiring our services. the only feed back that really should matter is that of previous employers. Good hunting ;)
Ignus Viator Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.10 20:13:00 - [20] Originally by: Jack Dant Originally by: DamienEx With you guys it was kinda..... eh. Your primarily a UK corp right? Were US. Time difference didn't really help. So You waiting for us to log on and we were hoping you were still awake. So you will accept all contracts, but only fulfill them if they are convenient? That we were EU timezone would be obvious from our killboard. Quote: Try looking at this page. F-OFF Stats It's interesting how none of the top systems of all time are in the current month list. Actually, most of them are 0.0, with no recent kills in there. And how, of the top pilots on your killboard, none of them are still in your corp. Seems to me you are trying to build a credible merc reputation on the 0.0 kills of some people who aren't even in your corp anymore. people come and go. leadership remains mostly the same. we are still capable and can deliver. still our recent contract efficiency, if not fullfillment is still good. with a few lessons learned

Roastedpot Blutkinder	Posted - 2009.11.10 21:29:00 - [21] Originally by: Jack Dant Originally by: DamienEx With you guys it was kinda..... eh. Your primarily a UK corp right? Were US. Time difference didn't really help. So You waiting for us to log on and we were hoping you were still awake. So you will accept all contracts, but only fulfill them if they are convenient? That we were EU timezone would be obvious from our killboard. Quote: Try looking at this page. F-OFF Stats It's interesting how none of the top systems of all time are in the current month list. Actually, most of them are 0.0, with no recent kills in there. And how, of the top pilots on your killboard, none of them are still in your corp. Seems to me you are trying to build a credible merc reputation on the 0.0 kills of some people who aren't even in your corp anymore. that would require them to actually do some intel of their own, but since they dont and want it all spoon fed to them im not sure what you expected.
The PitBoss Caldari Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.10 21:37:00 - [22] I approve of this MERC corp ... Thank-You, The Pitboss (Space between The & Pitboss) Signatures by: Kalen Vox
Paul Clavet Honorless Internet Jerks	Posted - 2009.11.10 23:14:00 - [23] Here is a link to the thread that F-OFF apparently was able to get vanished. I stand by my poor review, since Damien decided it would be easier to beg CCP to delete his bad reviews than to own up to the shortcomings of his merc corp. Quote: My review: FOFF was hired on a performance basis to kill WT missionrunners and hulks at a very lucrative rate (50M/30M per kill, respectively). Wardec fee was paid up front. I made it very clear that their objective was enemy carebears, not the enemy fail-PVP fleets which could easily be avoided. FOFF engaged and destroyed an enemy PVP fleet on the first night. This was very impressive, but I reminded them again that it was the carebears I was after. FOFF killed 0 (zero) missionrunners and miners in the first week, and spent the whole time running after the people I told them to ignore. They complained of being unable to find targets while my corp was finding and violencing several eligible targets per day. When an opportunity to pew a fail-fit enemy BS gang camping a station arose, I was told that Damien was having a bad night so they just weren't going to show. Luckily, I had not paid much since the job was performance-based and FOFF failed to perform. Renewed the contract against my better judgement, throwing in extra on the agreed condition that they get all hands on deck the next night while we made an enemy POS sad. Two FOFF pilots showed up, with none of the leadership even logging on. The FOFF pilots that did show up to participate had to be told about the op--leadership had apparently not informed the corp of the job they agreed to do and had been paid for. In their defense, the FOFF pilots that actually showed up were competent and integrated well into our existing fleet. We got the job done, but it was only because other corps had by then joined in the wardec against our enemies and joined up with our fleet. If you pay someone to protect against a possible attack, and neither they nor the threat decides to show, is that still money well spent? After the war ended for us, they continued to get a few WT kills until their dec ended. No missionrunners or miners. TLDR version: Promises victory and can deliver it, as long as their management and pilots actually log on, except that they don't. Extremely poor communication with both clients and their own pilots. Would not hire again. ---- Blog: My Loot, Your Tears
a51 duke1406 Imperium Signal Corps Underworld Excavators	Posted - 2009.11.11 00:33:00 - [24] Serious props to these guys. Gave us a hand with a fight. Know what they are doing and have a good understanding of game mechanics. If I was not a merc I would hire these guys. Give them some love.
Zavulon Sukkot Imperium Signal Corps Underworld Excavators	Posted - 2009.11.11 01:06:00 - [25] I confirm, having seen F-OFF in action across multiple engagements, that they bring everything they claim on-grid and more. When you see F-OFF on the field, they WILL make a difference. Buy now and they may even be on your side! I do NOT suggest giving your opponent the opportunity to hire them first. NATI.
The'Best Hellfury Incura	Posted - 2009.11.11 01:16:00 - [26] Originally by: DamienEx Try looking at this page. F-OFF Stats Spending years flying in 0.0 blobs led by Molle etc. doesn't make you good mercs. ALEKSEYEV KARRDE FOR CSM
Harrigan VonStudly Imperium Signal Corps Underworld Excavators	Posted - 2009.11.11 01:49:00 - [27] Originally by: The'Best Hellfury Originally by: DamienEx Try looking at this page. F-OFF Stats Spending years flying in 0.0 blobs led by Molle etc. doesn't make you good mercs. But having The'Best Hellfurry post in a thread makes it The'Best Thread
The'Best Hellfury Incura	Posted - 2009.11.11 02:02:00 - [28] Edited by: The''Best Hellfury on 11/11/2009 02:03:30 Originally by: Harrigan VonStudly But having The'Best Hellfurry post in a thread makes it The'Best Thread Pretty sure there isn't 2000+ best threads Edit: Really though, linking your stats from 2-3 years of 0.0 fleet battles as evidence of you PvP prowess in a hilarious attempt to cover up for your lack of success as a mercenary is pretty bad ALEKSEYEV KARRDE FOR CSM
Alekseyev Karrde Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.11.11 06:51:00 - [29] This popcorn is delicious... --- Zombie Apocalypse Guitar-Wielding Superteam
Roastedpot Blutkinder	Posted - 2009.11.11 06:59:00 - [30] Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde This popcorn is delicious... do me a favor, go to your kitchen and season the popcorn with lemon pepper salt, you will not be disappointed. another option is pop the popcorn, take it out and pour those mini-marshmellows into the bag and put it back in microwave on low for a few seconds. makes the biggest mess of your life, but tastes so wonderful. just do not combine to two options, they are about as good as f-off on contract (had to make it relevant right?)

Lana's Alt Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.11.11 06:59:00 - [31] Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde This popcorn is delicious... Enjoying watching the smear campaign against this respectable merc corp that you instigated coming to completion are you? From the head of one of the best thought of merc corp around I would have expected a little more class Alek. Istvaan Shogaatsu: As with most such situations the answer is simple: rob them first.
The'Best Hellfury Incura	Posted - 2009.11.11 07:36:00 - [32] Heh, it takes someone truly awful to unite all of C&P. ALEKSEYEV KARRDE FOR CSM
Lana's Alt Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.11.11 09:06:00 - [33] Originally by: The'Best Hellfury Heh, it takes someone truly awful to unite all of C&P. Typical pro Alex response from one of him many lackeys. I expected more from you Lexa. Istvaan Shogaatsu: As with most such situations the answer is simple: rob them first.
The'Best Hellfury Incura	Posted - 2009.11.11 09:22:00 - [34] Originally by: Lana's Alt Originally by: The'Best Hellfury Heh, it takes someone truly awful to unite all of C&P. Typical pro Alex response from one of him many lackeys. I expected more from you Lexa. I didn't expect more of your grammar. I wasn't disappointed. ALEKSEYEV KARRDE FOR CSM
Ezien	Posted - 2009.11.11 09:34:00 - [35] Originally by: Paul Clavet Here is a link to the thread that F-OFF apparently was able to get vanished. I stand by my poor review, since Damien decided it would be easier to beg CCP to delete his bad reviews than to own up to the shortcomings of his merc corp. And after Damien admitted he should not have accepted the contract in the first place and refunded your ISK, and even after having a 3rd party offer to act as a moderator to resolve the issue, you're still angry about it? So since we're here in this not so shiny new thread, how about we settle this once and for all? I challenge you to *a wrastlin' match.* What? There's already plenty of mud here...
Roastedpot Blutkinder	Posted - 2009.11.11 17:48:00 - [36] Originally by: Ezien Originally by: Paul Clavet Here is a link to the thread that F-OFF apparently was able to get vanished. I stand by my poor review, since Damien decided it would be easier to beg CCP to delete his bad reviews than to own up to the shortcomings of his merc corp. And after Damien admitted he should not have accepted the contract in the first place and refunded your ISK a few months later after his thread was ripped a new one.
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.11 19:48:00 - [37] Well its nice to know I have a rather popular merc thread. At least everyone is keeping it on the front page and I get plenty of contract offers STILL despite all the mud. Thank you for making business possible and keeping my thread on top. I have all the trolls and the "lets roast F-OFF" lackey to thank for making our business flourish and possible.
Ezien	Posted - 2009.11.11 20:58:00 - [38] Edited by: Ezien on 11/11/2009 20:59:42 I've never bought the saying "Any publicity is good publicity," but part of a merc's job tends to involve stirring people up, so maybe it applies here. Either way, in before trolls troll Damien's last trollbait to trollland.
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.12 18:58:00 - [39] We have a few contracts lined up so if you have a long term problem, consider us for solving it in about..... 2-3 weeks? Business is good :-)
BrutorCitizen3037	Posted - 2009.11.12 19:53:00 - [40] Who's the biggest scammer Noir. or F-OFF

DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.13 22:14:00 - [41] Still looking to book some contracts. Still booked till the 22nd.
Alekseyev Karrde Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.11.14 00:32:00 - [42] Originally by: BrutorCitizen3037 Who's the biggest scammer Noir. or F-OFF Maru, it only works if you use DIFFERENT ALTS than your nonsense spam threads. Keep trying though, it's kind of cute. Bump for Damien --- Zombie Apocalypse Guitar-Wielding Superteam
Paul Clavet Honorless Internet Jerks	Posted - 2009.11.14 02:14:00 - [43] Originally by: Ezien Originally by: Paul Clavet Here is a link to the thread that F-OFF apparently was able to get vanished. I stand by my poor review, since Damien decided it would be easier to beg CCP to delete his bad reviews than to own up to the shortcomings of his merc corp. And after Damien admitted he should not have accepted the contract in the first place and refunded your ISK, and even after having a 3rd party offer to act as a moderator to resolve the issue, you're still angry about it?] Damien refunded less than one-tenth of the war on enemy carebears that I paid for. Damien did not even tell his corpmates about the POS takedown that I paid him the night before to assist with, so his "all hands WERE on deck!" excuse is a lie, and a weak one at that. Even if the war was indeed a well-intentioned misstep on his part, he did not meet ANY of the conditions of the contract, including the promise he made to send me regular reports on progress. All I got was excuses after the fact about how "hunting carebears is hard, man" while I was looking at a half-dozen carebear kills that we accomplished without them. That third-party moderator you speak of? He's a friend of mine, but his involvement was limited to convo'ing me and saying, "Hey, stop it." Some moderation. F-OFF failed completely in my particular campaign. It wasn't just that they didn't kill the targets, or that they didn't communicate with me as agreed. The problem I have with F-OFF is that at any point they could have said "We were full of fail, but we want to move on. Here's a complete refund with no hard feelings." Instead, they paid back 50M of 600M sent, then instead of addressing my valid concerns about their inability to fulfill their promises, they called me a troll and started a new thread without the feedback. By the way, Damien, one of the first things I said to you when we met was that I would be giving a full review either way the contract turned out. You were excited about the opportunity to get a good review. If you'd like me to post a pastebin of the log in which you agreed to a full review for better or worse, I'd be happy to dig it up. But you won't, you'll call me a troll and dismiss your own failures. I guess that means that I was the only one between us that kept his promise. Potential clients: Hire them if you like. Maybe they'll eventually claw their way into adequacy. Just don't give your money with any expectations, because the moment the going gets tough (even if that just means that they never tell their corpmates about the contract) they'll bail out, cease communication, then attempt to hide their shame through re-made threads full of "A+++ WOULD BUY FROM AGAIN" from corpmates and merc friends who never even hired them. Want me to go away? I'd like the rest of the money back, and a public apology for the Golf Foxtrot that was your performance and lack of diligence during the contract. ---- Blog: My Loot, Your Tears
Le Soltueur Underworld Excavators	Posted - 2009.11.14 02:46:00 - [44] Originally by: Paul Clavet That third-party moderator you speak of? He's a friend of mine, but his involvement was limited to convo'ing me and saying, "Hey, stop it." Some moderation. Just for the record, I made the offer to moderate. Neither of the parties took me up on it in any official capacity. And yes, Paul is a friend. Stubborn as an old, mangy jackass, but a friend. ♥
Michael Hoare	Posted - 2009.11.14 02:54:00 - [45] After long and careful consideration, and taking into account their recent combat record and the comments on this thread, I must stand by my early statement : These Clowns Suck! Anyone who hires this group can expect nothing but failure and excuses. I would rate this Mercenary Corporation at 20 out of a possible 100.
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.14 04:34:00 - [46] Originally by: Paul Clavet Blah Blah Blah For the sake of being professional and keeping F-OFF in some sort of positive light I have refrained from lowering myself to a certain level of behavior and saying certain things on the forums. This changes now. F-OFF quite frankly doesn't give a $h!t what you think of us. We don't care that you are going to bring up the same mute points over and over again, and we don't care that you think we are a horrible awful corp. We can kill ships. We can kill lots of ships many times over again. If you want us to kill specific ships, we wont. We will kill what undocks and what stays undocked with whatever fittings are on it. Our low efficiency stems from the fact that we lose ships like everyone else. We just happen to lose T2 ships that are T2 fitted. Or in my personal experiences, I lose T2 ships that are faction fitted. We are not in the merc business for stats, we are not in it for the isk. We are in the Merc business so we can kill things. Paul, you wont shut up till you get "paid back" in full. You never will get what you want. Stop trying. For all the trolls, troll away. We will still get contracts, we will still get business and we will still kill many ships no matter where we go or what we do. We have been in 0.0 and kill there. Blob fest, titans dooms days, cap ship battles, roaming gangs, fleet battles, we have been there, done that, and over all, we have done it well. Now STFU and give us something to shoot.
Paul Clavet Honorless Internet Jerks	Posted - 2009.11.14 04:45:00 - [47] Originally by: DamienEx Edited by: DamienEx on 14/11/2009 04:36:23 Originally by: Paul Clavet Blah Blah Blah For the sake of being professional and keeping F-OFF in some sort of positive light I have refrained from lowering myself to a certain level of behavior and saying certain things on the forums. This changes now. F-OFF quite frankly doesn't give a $h!t what you think of us. We don't care that you are going to bring up the same mute points over and over again, and we don't care that you think we are a horrible awful corp. We can kill ships. We can kill lots of ships many times over again. If you want us to kill specific ships, we wont. We will kill what undocks and what stays undocked with whatever fittings are on it. Our low efficiency stems from the fact that we lose ships like everyone else. We just happen to lose T2 ships that are T2 fitted. Or in my personal experiences, I lose T2 ships that are faction fitted. We are not in the merc business for stats, we are not in it for the isk. We are in the Merc business so we can kill things. Paul, you wont shut up till you get "paid back" in full. You never will get what you want. Stop trying. For all the trolls, troll away. We will still get contracts, we will still get business and we will still kill many ships no matter where we go or what we do. We have been in 0.0 and kill there. Blob fest, titans dooms days, cap ship battles, roaming gangs, fleet battles, we have been there, done that, and over all, we have done it well. Now STFU and give us something to shoot. EDIT: By the way.... READ THE CORP TICKER Quoting to etch it in stone forever. I suppose that if "not delivering on promises, then keeping the money and telling the client to pound sand" is a "mute" (sic) point, then your ability and professionalism as a merc corp are established firmly. Wow, man. Just wow. ---- Blog: My Loot, Your Tears
Ignus Viator Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.14 04:54:00 - [48] Originally by: Paul Clavet But you won't, you'll call me a troll and dismiss your own failures. I guess that means that I was the only one between us that kept his promise. You've repeated yourselves so many times now dude. sorry you didn't like how things turned out, but time to get up and move on, be a big boy. we won't be taking another "kill missioning/miners" contract again." When war decced any people with sense will be on the look out in local, mission running/mining will be very minimal, if not completely halted. I tried scanning some down myself... but good luck with that in a mission hub system with 70, 90, over 100 people in local running missions. You try scanning them out and then tell me how it goes. Trust me, we won't be doing it again. Another thing we won't be doing again is trying taking a contract against a corporation that lives in wormhole space. i'll say again you've posted your review, now we will go on our seperate ways. We didn't "dismiss them" we admited to them. we said shouldn't have taken the contract, we killed ****, not the right targets. we wouldn't back off a juicy fleet to kill... you've gotta be kidding me if you expected us to avoid the "easily avoidable" war decced targets. short version: Sorry, K? bye
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.14 05:01:00 - [49] Edited by: DamienEx on 14/11/2009 05:01:38 Originally by: Paul Clavet Quoting to etch it in stone forever. I suppose that if "not delivering on promises, then keeping the money and telling the client to pound sand" is a "mute" (sic) point, then your ability and professionalism as a merc corp are established firmly. Wow, man. Just wow. Ive learned my lesson. Don't accept contracts with ret4rded conditions from employers who expect me to take time out of my real life schedule to contact you out of game with a bunch of details you could have found out for yourself by looking at our kill board. Ill change the merc description for our thread to include that we no longer make promises, only kill mails. Quite frankly I haven't had a complaint out of anyone who has employed us besides yourself. Now keep pounding sand... maybe you can attract enough attention to yourself. Or better yet, go hire another merc corp to shoot us. Hire all of them to shoot us. We might die, but hell... well have a good time doing it. On your dollar too :-) Oh did i say that last part out loud?
Paul Clavet Honorless Internet Jerks	Posted - 2009.11.14 05:05:00 - [50] Originally by: Ignus Viator Originally by: Paul Clavet But you won't, you'll call me a troll and dismiss your own failures. I guess that means that I was the only one between us that kept his promise. You've repeated yourselves so many times now dude. sorry you didn't like how things turned out, but time to get up and move on, be a big boy. we won't be taking another "kill missioning/miners" contract again." When war decced any people with sense will be on the look out in local, mission running/mining will be very minimal, if not completely halted. I tried scanning some down myself... but good luck with that in a mission hub system with 70, 90, over 100 people in local running missions. You try scanning them out and then tell me how it goes. Trust me, we won't be doing it again. Another thing we won't be doing again is trying taking a contract against a corporation that lives in wormhole space. i'll say again you've posted your review, now we will go on our seperate ways. We didn't "dismiss them" we admited to them. we said shouldn't have taken the contract, we killed ****, not the right targets. we wouldn't back off a juicy fleet to kill... you've gotta be kidding me if you expected us to avoid the "easily avoidable" war decced targets. short version: Sorry, K? bye You realize that we killed half a dozen of their missionbear ships by doing exactly what you and your CEO said could not be done, right? I'm sorry... was it too hard for you? Yes? Then the proper response is "Our bad. Here's your refund, and sorry for the trouble." not "Well, guess we won't try that again. Thanks for the money, now stop giving the review that was agreed to at the beginning of the contract!" So tell me, are there any other circumstances under which you, as a mercenary corp that wants to remain a going concern, would be willing to take the money and stop returning the client's proverbial calls? How is any client with any criteria other than "Eh, here's half a bil. Go kill our enemies. If you think it's easy enough and you want to actually tell your pilots to show up." supposed to trust you to actually give a flip about what you're being paid to do? ---- Blog: My Loot, Your Tears

DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.14 05:20:00 - [51] Edited by: DamienEx on 14/11/2009 05:20:21 Originally by: Paul Clavet Blah Blah Blah pt2 Despite your feeble attempts to make us look like any less capable of a merc corp than anyone else out there, which you have failed to do, I once again point out, we are getting contacted for contracts, and we are fulfilling the clients desires. All you are doing at this point is keeping our thread at the top of C+P and getting us more publicity. And while your out 600mil isk, we are happily paying our pilots for losses, insurance, getting new ships, helping our corp mates, and resting easy knowing that no matter what you do or say, we will get business, we will get contracts, and we will continue to kill things left and right with no regard for who it is. Rant and rave all you want. Were not going anywhere.
Ignus Viator Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.14 05:29:00 - [52] Edited by: Ignus Viator on 14/11/2009 05:34:17 Edited by: Ignus Viator on 14/11/2009 05:32:51 Edited by: Ignus Viator on 14/11/2009 05:32:18 Originally by: Paul Clavet Originally by: Ignus Viator Originally by: Paul Clavet But you won't, you'll call me a troll and dismiss your own failures. I guess that means that I was the only one between us that kept his promise. You've repeated yourselves so many times now dude. sorry you didn't like how things turned out, but time to get up and move on, be a big boy. we won't be taking another "kill missioning/miners" contract again." When war decced any people with sense will be on the look out in local, mission running/mining will be very minimal, if not completely halted. I tried scanning some down myself... but good luck with that in a mission hub system with 70, 90, over 100 people in local running missions. You try scanning them out and then tell me how it goes. Trust me, we won't be doing it again. Another thing we won't be doing again is trying taking a contract against a corporation that lives in wormhole space. i'll say again you've posted your review, now we will go on our seperate ways. We didn't "dismiss them" we admited to them. we said shouldn't have taken the contract, we killed ****, not the right targets. we wouldn't back off a juicy fleet to kill... you've gotta be kidding me if you expected us to avoid the "easily avoidable" war decced targets. short version: Sorry, K? bye You realize that we killed half a dozen of their missionbear ships by doing exactly what you and your CEO said could not be done, right? I'm sorry... was it too hard for you? Yes? Then the proper response is "Our bad. Here's your refund, and sorry for the trouble." not "Well, guess we won't try that again. Thanks for the money, now stop giving the review that was agreed to at the beginning of the contract!" So tell me, are there any other circumstances under which you, as a mercenary corp that wants to remain a going concern, would be willing to take the money and stop returning the client's proverbial calls? How is any client with any criteria other than "Eh, here's half a bil. Go kill our enemies. If you think it's easy enough and you want to actually tell your pilots to show up." supposed to trust you to actually give a flip about what you're being paid to do? oh wow you killed half a dozen mission ships? good job there man! thats 6.... we killed over 6 ships the first night. the total came to 54 ships causing over 4 billion isk of damage. How i see it. you hired us to cause damage, you paid us around 600 million i believe we refunded you 50 mil, we caused over 6 times the damage of what it cost you to hire us. you paid us in full with the bonus of isk per carebear kills, which we never got. DONE DEAL! we're not giving you money back unless somehow u can magically give us our playtime back for the time we spent war deccing them. GL with that. sorry but i'm not the smartest guy. and you use really big words proverbial callings? proverbial? are you a prophet?. seriously stop being dramatic and all but hurt. Proper is relative, so thats the proper response in your mind. again you've dragged this on and on and on beyond belief and beaten it to death the PROPER thing to do is to MOVE ON. but who can say whats proper ;)
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.14 05:33:00 - [53] Edited by: DamienEx on 14/11/2009 05:33:40 Originally by: Ignus Viator again you've dragged this on and on and on beyond belief and beaten it to death the PROPER thing to do is to MOVE ON. but who can say whats proper ;) I think the word your looking for is.... B( . )( . )BIES!!!
Lana's Alt Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.11.14 09:39:00 - [54] Originally by: Michael Hoare After long and careful consideration, and taking into account their recent combat record and the comments on this thread, I must stand by my early statement : These Clowns Suck! Anyone who hires this group can expect nothing but failure and excuses. I would rate this Mercenary Corporation at 20 out of a possible 100. You should start a web page with independent ratings of all the available merc corps and the type of jobs they do.. Who to contact, expected price range, etc... Actually, _I_ should be doing that! Istvaan Shogaatsu: As with most such situations the answer is simple: rob them first.
Shade Millith Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.11.14 10:22:00 - [55] Wait, so let's get this straight. - You got hired to kill a specific target (Mission runners) - You agreed to the contract - You didn't kill the specific targets (Mission runners) - Got hired again to help take down a tower - Nobody in the merc corp was told about the contract, so only two guys show up - You don't refund isk - You are shocked and appalled that the contracter is ****ed --------------------------------------------
Shinishi	Posted - 2009.11.14 16:53:00 - [56] Edited by: Shinishi on 14/11/2009 16:53:25
Scatha Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.14 18:27:00 - [57] Edited by: Scatha on 14/11/2009 18:29:21 Originally by: Shade Millith Edited by: Shade Millith on 14/11/2009 10:54:21 Wait, so let's get this straight. - You got hired to kill a specific target (Mission runners) - You agreed to the contract - You didn't kill the specific targets (Mission runners) - Got hired again to help take down a tower - Leadership in the merc corp didn't tell the others about the contract, so only two guys show up - You don't refund isk - You are shocked and appalled that the contracter is ****ed 1. Kill Specific targets - Yes, but he was real picky on what was considered a mission fit...any ship that had a webifier in the mid slots was considered by our employer as "PvP" fit. 2. Yep. 3. See number 1. 4. Yup. 5. We had 9 guys on to help the night the tower went into reinforced and were told to not go in because "Another Merc corp was hired to deal with the tower guns." We DID help put said tower into reinforced, tower not fully stronted. Our job was to kill any support that tried to come in and then help with the tower once guns were down. I lead the F-OFF guys on this op. The two guys to show up when the tower came out of reinforced were the only two on from what I've been told. 6. We're not refunding isk, due to time spent and isk for the dec. Price of doing business. He's a fool if he thinks he's getting back more than the 60m. 7. Not surprised, but crying about it isn't going to change anything. Flame away.
Michael Hoare	Posted - 2009.11.14 18:54:00 - [58] First and foremost I would recomend that F-OFF take some of the merc fees they've conned people out of and invest in a whole truckload of non-bunching/non-twisting panties. ***ers. Secondly I would prepare for a whole world of hurt to be heading toward F-OFF any day soon now. You see, this thread has reached critical mass. . . and I am certain that any moment now someone big and nasty will notice that F-OFF fits their PvP ships with very tasty and profitable deadspace loot. Wiping out a few losers and making off with a few billion in salvage sounds like a great way to spend the weekend! Go back to ganking newbs, leave the mercenary work to. . .well, just about anyone but you.
Srialia Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.11.14 19:37:00 - [59] Edited by: Srialia on 14/11/2009 19:39:38 Originally by: Ignus Viator oh wow you killed half a dozen mission ships? good job there man! thats 6.... we killed over 6 ships the first night. the total came to 54 ships causing over 4 billion isk of damage. How i see it. you hired us to cause damage. Incorrect. He hired you to kill mission runners. You repeatedly charged headlong into their group of 8 pvp pilots station/gate camping us to prevent ninja salvaging. The alliance we were fighting was mostly carebears, and they wanted to "teach us a lesson" because they concorded a couple of their big ships trying to kill one of our salvage frigates one night. Only a few of them were actually interested in pvping. We wanted to dishearten their alliance and break their will to fund the war, boring their pvpers out of their minds while making their pve-ers and miners sad and broke. We wanted to destroy their supply lines, murder their women and children. Paul hired you to help with the guerilla war. You said "OK, thanks for the money, now we line up like the British Redcoats and march to the front line!" Not only did you not do what you were hired to do, you undermined our campaign by making their pvpers' lives more exciting. But the reasons don't even really matter. You were hired to do something specific. If it was too specific, you should not have accepted the contract. You accepted the contract and did not deliver. Own up and make amends or expect a terrible reputation. And yes, 6 mission ships is not a big deal. So again, why do you guys keep harping on how difficult it was to find mission ships to kill? Can't have it both ways. Quote: again you've dragged this on and on and on beyond belief and beaten it to death the PROPER thing to do is to MOVE ON. but who can say whats proper ;) The proper thing to do is to make sure everyone thinking about hiring you knows to expect excuses and poor performance. The proper thing for YOU to do is give Paul a refund, letting the entire community know that if you don't honor your end of the contract, you at least don't expect the other party to honor theirs.
MicroWarpdrive II the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.11.14 20:21:00 - [60] stfu Paul Clavet, your whining hurts my **ing eyes. there's so much worse ** that could have happened and your making a huge deal out of this? seriously gtfo of their thread.

Michael Hoare	Posted - 2009.11.14 23:28:00 - [61] Edited by: Michael Hoare on 14/11/2009 23:59:31 Oh my goodness. . . when Suddenly Ninja's come out publicly against you, yer screwed. I understand all of your Carrier/Dreadnought/Titan pilots have defected to other corporations/alliances. . . care to comment? I understand DamienEx is having a BAD DAY, as he lost a deadspace fitted HAC recently worth 1.5 billion ISK, Linkage We hope this will not effect future contracts? Speaking of contracts, just how many contracts have you failed? You accepted 350 million ISK to kill my targets, and accomplished nothing. You ask for proof. . .I ask you how many 350 million ISK contracts you have accepted and failed. If you have more than one, I would say you have bigger issues to worry about! If I were you, I would disolve your corporation, sell all the assets, split the money equally among all the people in your corporation while publicly committing Seppuku to atone for your asshat-itude. Until then, take my advice and go back to WoW, before some real mercs wipe the floor with you for giving all mercs a bad name!
Ignus Viator Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.15 05:20:00 - [62] Originally by: Srialia Edited by: Srialia on 14/11/2009 19:39:38 Originally by: Ignus Viator oh wow you killed half a dozen mission ships? good job there man! thats 6.... we killed over 6 ships the first night. the total came to 54 ships causing over 4 billion isk of damage. How i see it. you hired us to cause damage. Incorrect. He hired you to kill mission runners. You repeatedly charged headlong into their group of 8 pvp pilots station/gate camping us to prevent ninja salvaging. The alliance we were fighting was mostly carebears, and they wanted to "teach us a lesson" because they concorded a couple of their big ships trying to kill one of our salvage frigates one night. Only a few of them were actually interested in pvping. We wanted to dishearten their alliance and break their will to fund the war, boring their pvpers out of their minds while making their pve-ers and miners sad and broke. We wanted to destroy their supply lines, murder their women and children. Paul hired you to help with the guerilla war. You said "OK, thanks for the money, now we line up like the British Redcoats and march to the front line!" Not only did you not do what you were hired to do, you undermined our campaign by making their pvpers' lives more exciting. But the reasons don't even really matter. You were hired to do something specific. If it was too specific, you should not have accepted the contract. You accepted the contract and did not deliver. Own up and make amends or expect a terrible reputation. And yes, 6 mission ships is not a big deal. So again, why do you guys keep harping on how difficult it was to find mission ships to kill? Can't have it both ways. The proper thing to do is to make sure everyone thinking about hiring you knows to expect excuses and poor performance. The proper thing for YOU to do is give Paul a refund, letting the entire community know that if you don't honor your end of the contract, you at least don't expect the other party to honor theirs. the first part of your post is kinda confusing. but i was wrong. my bad. sorry we didn't kill mission running war targets. sorry we tried. move on. please don't tell me whats proper. see my previous posts. Again we tried hunting their mission ships but didn't find them. over how long period of time did it take to kill those 6 ships? a month? no your not getting refunded. end of discussion, now f-off. people will be able to read your previous post. and you guys are just *****ing and whining. get over it.
Ignus Viator Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.15 05:26:00 - [63] Edited by: Ignus Viator on 15/11/2009 05:27:50 Edited by: Ignus Viator on 15/11/2009 05:26:17 Originally by: Michael Hoare Edited by: Michael Hoare on 14/11/2009 23:59:31 Oh my goodness. . . when Suddenly Ninja's come out publicly against you, yer screwed. I understand all of your Carrier/Dreadnought/Titan pilots have defected to other corporations/alliances. . . care to comment? I understand DamienEx is having a BAD DAY, as he lost a deadspace fitted HAC recently worth 1.5 billion ISK, Linkage We hope this will not effect future contracts? Speaking of contracts, just how many contracts have you failed? You accepted 350 million ISK to kill my targets, and accomplished nothing. You ask for proof. . .I ask you how many 350 million ISK contracts you have accepted and failed. If you have more than one, I would say you have bigger issues to worry about! If I were you, I would disolve your corporation, sell all the assets, split the money equally among all the people in your corporation while publicly committing Seppuku to atone for your asshat-itude. Until then, take my advice and go back to WoW, before some real mercs wipe the floor with you for giving all mercs a bad name! who the hell are you? (retorical) and no i don't care to comment cuz idk who the hell you and your "merc review and bonding commission" are all about. please continue to read the corp ticker every time u guys decide to post AGAIN LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER we failed killing mission runners on your contract. sorry move on. AGAIN LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER we failed killing mission runners on your contract. sorry move on. AGAIN LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER we failed killing mission runners on your contract. sorry move on. AGAIN LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER we failed killing mission runners on your contract. sorry move on. you guys have beaten this to death. and killed it again shot its corpse, ****d it and molested it. i'm beginning to think you guys just like to hear yourselves talk. yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea? SORRY we didn't kill mission runners on a contract that ended 2 months ago or so. but its time to move on. you've brought up the same points over and over and over and over agian. so you've done your job with our review now F-OFF
Lana's Alt Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.11.15 13:04:00 - [64] Originally by: Ignus Viator we didn't kill mission runners on a contract I believe this is the point.... Istvaan Shogaatsu: As with most such situations the answer is simple: rob them first.
Michael Hoare	Posted - 2009.11.15 17:22:00 - [65] Edited by: Michael Hoare on 15/11/2009 17:24:55 You know, this is bit of a giggle. . . watching these big bad wannabe mercs come un-****ing-glued on the forums is pure entertainment. Watching these losers try to spin their blatant failures into some sort of success, only to be slapped down by anyone and everyone is great comedy! Reading their posts as they try to squirm away from blame while trying to talk tough has literally reduced me to howling laughter. I think between me and the other bloke we can keep this sort of fun up indefinately, unless of course F-OFF is willing to admit culpability, offer a sincere apology and tender a refund to Paul. . . If not, we can find it in our hearts to make certain that every potential employer in this game knows what sort of failure they can expect by hiring you!
Ydoc Llezsor Hydro Chronic Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2009.11.15 18:08:00 - [66] Originally by: Michael Hoare Edited by: Michael Hoare on 15/11/2009 17:24:55 You know, this is bit of a giggle. . . watching these big bad wannabe mercs come un-**ing-glued on the forums is pure entertainment. Watching these losers try to spin their blatant failures into some sort of success, only to be slapped down by anyone and everyone is great comedy! Reading their posts as they try to squirm away from blame while trying to talk tough has literally reduced me to howling laughter. I think between me and the other bloke we can keep this sort of fun up indefinately, unless of course F-OFF is willing to admit culpability, offer a sincere apology and tender a refund to Paul. . . If not, we can find it in our hearts to make certain that every potential employer in this game knows what sort of failure they can expect by hiring you! If you think they are **ty mercs why not dec them yourselves? Too scared? Also for what its worth, ive flown with f-off in the past and they are great at blowing up internet spaceships. If you need people killed these are the guys to do it.
Ignus Viator Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.15 18:56:00 - [67] Originally by: Michael Hoare Edited by: Michael Hoare on 15/11/2009 17:24:55 You know, this is bit of a giggle. . . watching these big bad wannabe mercs come un-**ing-glued on the forums is pure entertainment. Watching these losers try to spin their blatant failures into some sort of success, only to be slapped down by anyone and everyone is great comedy! Reading their posts as they try to squirm away from blame while trying to talk tough has literally reduced me to howling laughter. I think between me and the other bloke we can keep this sort of fun up indefinately, unless of course F-OFF is willing to admit culpability, offer a sincere apology and tender a refund to Paul. . . If not, we can find it in our hearts to make certain that every potential employer in this game knows what sort of failure they can expect by hiring you! http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1066326&page=1#1 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1214869 Originally by:** Jonny 101 Could we have the facts this is based on, and i'm assuming I should speak to this corp to find out what corp your main is in, as i'm guessing they just ***** slapped him judging by your rubbish thread? See thing is, you're a nobody, pretending to be a somebody, going around judging people who...are someone, if that means they are good someones or rubbish someones...doesn't matter, because they're not hiding their inadequacies behind a very silly alt. Perhaps if you told us who your main was, if you even have one...or admit that this is your only char, so that you actually show us who you are to talk about this? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So you're admitting that you started this unbiased review thread so that you could unbiasedly review a mercenary corporation that war decced your mining alt? And, your main would be who by the way, if you're going to accuse someone without any evidence what so ever, the least you could do is tell us who you are. ^^ that sums up my thoughts.
Ignus Viator Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.15 19:02:00 - [68] Originally by: Ydoc Llezsor If you think they are ****ty mercs why not dec them yourselves? Too scared? Also for what its worth, ive flown with f-off in the past and they are great at blowing up internet spaceships. If you need people killed these are the guys to do it. thanks man, nice to hear :)
Jarik Utoni Minmatar	Posted - 2009.11.15 19:07:00 - [69] i find this thread to be less merc contract and more troll the poor merc corp. if you are displeased with their service make one post and leave, if you are happy with their performance do the same. but don't stick arround and troll them all day because your EvE game won't load or your daily forum post count isn't high enough yet. ---- -Jarik Utoni, Stealthbomber Pilot d(^.^)b
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.15 20:07:00 - [70] I couldn't be more satisfied with the amount of attention this is getting us :-) It took me a bit to put 2 and 2 together but i finally realized that Michael Hoare actually is a recent employer. He had us target what he called an empire corp. He wanted 10 kills per week, not unreasonable at all. What he failed to mention is that said corp had 90% of its active members living in worm holes. We spent hours probing for worm holes and jumping in and out of them TRYING to find them in the initial operation area that we were given. Turns out they moved. Once the location of where they had moved was obtained, we proceeded to move our scanning characters into the area and began the process all over again. Further research showed that there are 2000+ wormholes in all of eve. Three days into the war dec, no kills, and not even a single sighting of one of the war targets, we gave Milena Marich aka Michael Hoare a full refund of said isk. We didnt even keep the 2 mil from the war dec. His character INSISTED we keep a portion of the isk as gratitude for our time. We didnt keep any of it. There were also no bribes from the target, there wasnt even any communication from them. In light of this contract going the wrong way, we offered to get an out of corp alt to join the target and then proceed to get locations, worm hole entrance and exit points so we could then move a number of our pvp characters into the worm hole to attack the corp. Milena Marich seemed satasfied with that response and we told him we would get back to him as soon as all the peices were in place. I can safely say we will not be contacting our employer in regards to anything. But to make this short and sweet... -Michael Hoare is Milena Marich -We refunded Milena Marich since we couldnt kill targets who were in worm holes that we had no way of getting to -We offered a means of completing the contract in the future, and it was accepted -Some of us learned how to probe things out better Fin.

DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.15 20:21:00 - [71] Originally by: Michael Hoare Edited by: Michael Hoare on 14/11/2009 23:59:31 I understand all of your Carrier/Dreadnought/Titan pilots have defected to other corporations/alliances. . . care to comment? Some people cant live in empire. They like 0.0. So most of them parted with us on a positive note and we still talk and keep in contact. We dont expect people to stay in corp if we aren't going to be fulfilling their play style. Quote:* I understand DamienEx is having a BAD DAY, as he lost a deadspace fitted HAC recently worth 1.5 billion ISK, Linkage We hope this will not effect future contracts? God forbid I take my faction fitted ships and use them for something besides mission running? Why buy something just for it to sit in station and be pretty. Not my play style. If im going to spend 1.5 bil on a ship, im going to fly it around, and im going to lose it in combat eventually. Quote:* Speaking of contracts, just how many contracts have you failed? You accepted 350 million ISK to kill my targets, and accomplished nothing. You ask for proof. . .I ask you how many 350 million ISK contracts you have accepted and failed. If you have more than one, I would say you have bigger issues to worry about! -Pauls: Refunded for the portion we 'failed' -Yours: Refunded entirely. Ive got wallet transactions that I would be more than happy to share with the rest of the eve community to show that we in fact refunded you Quote:* *If I were you, I would disolve your corporation, sell all the assets, split the money equally among all the people in your corporation while publicly committing Seppuku to atone for your asshat-itude. Until then, take my advice and go back to WoW, before some real mercs wipe the floor with you for giving all mercs a bad name! We have been through worse measures than this. Non of us play WoW. An we know we are ass-hats... i mean.... our corp ticker is F-OFF after all. What dont you people get about this already ?
Michael Hoare	Posted - 2009.11.15 20:25:00 - [72] Originally by: DamienEx -Michael Hoare is Milena Marich -We refunded Milena Marich since we couldnt kill targets who were in worm holes that we had no way of getting to -We offered a means of completing the contract in the future, and it was accepted -Some of us learned how to probe things out better Fin. Oops. . . I am so busted. Better do something about that Clownshoes, like war-decc a former employer! Seriously, never heard of Milena Marich and I hope that this thread does not reflect poorly on her or her corporation/alliance.
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.15 20:29:00 - [73] No one else has hired us for 350mil, except you, and i know this because i recently upped the price for our contracts.
PostmasterGeneral Minmatar yo i'm posting	Posted - 2009.11.15 20:44:00 - [74] Originally by: Michael Hoare Originally by: DamienEx -Michael Hoare is Milena Marich -We refunded Milena Marich since we couldnt kill targets who were in worm holes that we had no way of getting to -We offered a means of completing the contract in the future, and it was accepted -Some of us learned how to probe things out better Fin. Oops. . . I am so busted. Better do something about that Clownshoes, like war-decc a former employer! Seriously, never heard of Milena Marich and I hope that this thread does not reflect poorly on her or her corporation/alliance. i for one can't wait until your main gets introduced to the own zone
w1ldt4ngent SWARTA	Posted - 2009.11.15 22:57:00 - [75] Only experience I've had with F-OFF is when one of their members ninja-salvaged my nearly cleaned up mission site (you couldn't have made off with much more than 2-3mil ISK... money must be tight at F-OFF with all these refunds going around), but I can say from the general attitude from it's members in here that a lot of you could definitely use a lesson in knowing when to STFU. By continuing to address the accusations of your detractors, true or not, you're only making yourselves look worse, therefore, said detractors are accomplishing their goals. I'd recommend you institute a corp-wide policy, taking effect immediately, to not address disgruntled customers, unless you're the CEO or some other duly-authorized corp officer. All of you getting on here trying to dog-pile the unhappy customers is only making you look like a bunch of, well, dogs. -random carebear nobody ___________________________ Swartans! Prepare for glory!
Ignus Viator Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.16 01:23:00 - [76] Originally by: w1ldt4ngent Only experience I've had with F-OFF is when one of their members ninja-salvaged my nearly cleaned up mission site (you couldn't have made off with much more than 2-3mil ISK... money must be tight at F-OFF with all these refunds going around), but I can say from the general attitude from it's members in here that a lot of you could definitely use a lesson in knowing when to STFU. By continuing to address the accusations of your detractors, true or not, you're only making yourselves look worse, therefore, said detractors are accomplishing their goals. I'd recommend you institute a corp-wide policy, taking effect immediately, to not address disgruntled customers, unless you're the CEO or some other duly-authorized corp officer. All of you getting on here trying to dog-pile the unhappy customers is only making you look like a bunch of, well, dogs. -random carebear nobody lol... i think i know who you are and i think that might've been me! there where only 3-4 wartargets online and they where docked in current system, i got bored so i scanned some random person down in mission hub system and found them mining. i just took some loot :P anyway yea your right we shouldn't be addressing them anymore. and i will not be anymore, i'm pretty over saying the same things over and over again. i'm out of the thread now late.
Lana's Alt Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.11.16 02:15:00 - [77] Originally by: Jarik Utoni i find this thread to be less merc contract and more troll the poor merc corp. if you are displeased with their service make one post and leave, if you are happy with their performance do the same. but don't stick arround and troll them all day because your EvE game won't load or your daily forum post count isn't high enough yet. Because if you bought a car from a dodgy second hand dealer and they gave you a cardboard cutout instead you'd only bother to tell one person and then let them keep ripping people off right? Istvaan Shogaatsu: As with most such situations the answer is simple: rob them first.
Michael Hoare	Posted - 2009.11.16 18:06:00 - [78] The Mercenary Review and Bonding Commission rates this mercenary group: Federation of Freedom Fighters Rating: 20/100 Poor -bump-
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.16 21:17:00 - [79] Laa dee da. I love all the attention were getting. It makes me smile on the inside.
Paul Clavet Honorless Internet Jerks	Posted - 2009.11.17 01:01:00 - [80] Originally by: DamienEx -We refunded Milena Marich since we couldnt kill targets who were in worm holes that we had no way of getting to So let me ask: When you guys do fail contracts, which seems to happen with some regularity, what is the criteria for refunds? It seems to me that if you refunded Milena for something you promised, failed to do, but what nearly impossible, then I should get a refund for the contract terms you promised, failed to do, but we were doing on a regular basis. So again, why do only some of your failed contracts get refunds? ---- Blog: My Loot, Your Tears

Lana's Alt Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.11.17 01:33:00 - [81] Originally by: Michael Hoare The Mercenary Review and Bonding Commission rates this mercenary group: Federation of Freedom Fighters Rating: 20/100 Poor -bump- The Skool has rated the Mercenary Review and Bonding Commission and found it is one sided and bias in almost all of its reviews and has given it a score of 1/10:Very Bad.
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.17 03:56:00 - [82] Originally by: Paul Clavet Blah x3 pt3 Because we dont like you :-)
Michael Hoare	Posted - 2009.11.18 02:17:00 - [83] The Mercenary Review and Bonding Commission rates this mercenary group: Federation of Freedom Fighters Rating: 20/100 Poor -bump-
Lightningshade Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.11.18 12:57:00 - [84] Edited by: Lightningshade on 18/11/2009 13:00:50 Originally by: Michael Hoare The Mercenary Review and Bonding Commission rates this mercenary group: Federation of Freedom Fighters Rating: 20/100 Poor -bump- Terrible attempt at a gimmick, your a joke. Originally by: DamienEx Originally by: Paul Clavet Blah x3 pt3 Because we dont like you :-) You don't honor refunds because you don't like someone?
Lana's Alt Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.11.18 13:36:00 - [85] Originally by: Lightningshade Originally by: DamienEx Originally by: Paul Clavet Blah x3 pt3 Because we dont like you :-) You don't honor refunds because you don't like someone? You know whats funny? Even I dont use that excuse..
Lightningshade Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.11.18 13:54:00 - [86] Originally by: Lana's Alt Originally by: Lightningshade Originally by: DamienEx Originally by: Paul Clavet Blah x3 pt3 Because we dont like you :-) You don't honor refunds because you don't like someone? You know whats funny? Even I dont use that excuse.. I like the corp, and the few guys that I remember from there (somewhat) - I don't think I remember this Damien guy - but imo he should state his opinion and then just shut up about it. Playing the "Oh yeh, this attention is great" just doesn't look so fondly on him. You know, when you go into a fast food restaurant, complain about the food, even though it was great and still get a refund - that's so the public image doesn't get screwed.
Tirus Sinobi	Posted - 2009.11.18 17:15:00 - [87] Originally by: DamienEx I couldn't be more satisfied with the amount of attention this is getting us :-) It took me a bit to put 2 and 2 together but i finally realized that Michael Hoare actually is a recent employer. He had us target what he called an empire corp. He wanted 10 kills per week, not unreasonable at all. What he failed to mention is that said corp had 90% of its active members living in worm holes. We spent hours probing for worm holes and jumping in and out of them TRYING to find them in the initial operation area that we were given. Turns out they moved. Once the location of where they had moved was obtained, we proceeded to move our scanning characters into the area and began the process all over again. Further research showed that there are 2000+ wormholes in all of eve. Three days into the war dec, no kills, and not even a single sighting of one of the war targets, we gave Milena Marich aka Michael Hoare a full refund of said isk. We didnt even keep the 2 mil from the war dec. His character INSISTED we keep a portion of the isk as gratitude for our time. We didnt keep any of it. There were also no bribes from the target, there wasnt even any communication from them. In light of this contract going the wrong way, we offered to get an out of corp alt to join the target and then proceed to get locations, worm hole entrance and exit points so we could then move a number of our pvp characters into the worm hole to attack the corp. Milena Marich seemed satasfied with that response and we told him we would get back to him as soon as all the peices were in place. I can safely say we will not be contacting our employer in regards to anything. But to make this short and sweet... -Michael Hoare is Milena Marich -We refunded Milena Marich since we couldnt kill targets who were in worm holes that we had no way of getting to -We offered a means of completing the contract in the future, and it was accepted -Some of us learned how to probe things out better Fin. Isnt there a reason you shouldnt give this information out, maybe some kind of trust issue. Nobody clever is going to hire a Mercenary corporation that tells the entire forum the details of the contracts. What happened to confidentiality? This is expected of all Mercenary corporations is it not?
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.18 19:01:00 - [88] I have yet to release any details about a contract where someone was cooperating with us and not attempting to wreck our image by posting a load of crap without coming out with his main to confirm or deny the fact that he was a character that we had been employed by or not. I just answered everyone's question to get the truth onto the plate. And as for the "we dont like you" comment, cant take a joke can we?
Lightningshade Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.11.18 23:32:00 - [89] Originally by: DamienEx I have yet to release any details about a contract where someone was cooperating with us and not attempting to wreck our image by posting a load of crap without coming out with his main to confirm or deny the fact that he was a character that we had been employed by or not. I just answered everyone's question to get the truth onto the plate. And as for the "we dont like you" comment, cant take a joke can we? Way to get defensive girlfriend. Did I hurt your efeelings? Professional attitude right there. gl
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.19 01:11:00 - [90] Originally by: Lightningshade Way to get defensive girlfriend. Did I hurt your efeelings? Professional attitude right there. gl Dont flatter your self. I wasnt talking to you :-)

Paul Clavet Honorless Internet Jerks	Posted - 2009.11.19 01:39:00 - [91] Originally by: DamienEx And as for the "we dont like you" comment, cant take a joke can we? So that means that you do give refunds when you you fail a contract? Because I'm still waiting on the rest of my money. ---- Blog: My Loot, Your Tears
Shinyl Amarr EdgeGamers	Posted - 2009.11.19 05:34:00 - [92] Originally by: Paul Clavet Originally by: DamienEx And as for the "we dont like you" comment, cant take a joke can we? So that means that you do give refunds when you you fail a contract? Because I'm still waiting on the rest of my money. So... you're complaining about someone being dishonorable towards you... but you're in a corp called Honorless Internet Jerks...
Lightningshade Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.11.19 10:26:00 - [93] Originally by: DamienEx Originally by: Lightningshade Way to get defensive girlfriend. Did I hurt your efeelings? Professional attitude right there. gl Dont flatter your self. I wasnt talking to you :-) As a rep of F-OFF, your embarrassing yourself.
JordanParey Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.11.19 13:19:00 - [94] Originally by: Lightningshade Originally by: DamienEx Originally by: Lightningshade Way to get defensive girlfriend. Did I hurt your efeelings? Professional attitude right there. gl Dont flatter your self. I wasnt talking to you :-) As a rep of F-OFF, your embarrassing yourself. A little humility and a bit more action would go a long way here...lol.
lol thx Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.11.19 15:42:00 - [95] Originally by: JordanParey A little humility and a bit more action would go a long way here...lol. Says the guy with like 17 kills 25 losses on bc and only flies in blobs.
Zavulon Sukkot Imperium Signal Corps Underworld Excavators	Posted - 2009.11.19 20:37:00 - [96] Originally by: lol thx Originally by: JordanParey A little humility and a bit more action would go a long way here...lol. Says the guy with like 17 kills 25 losses on bc and only flies in blobs. Because a recon / bomber pilot should solo engage blobs? NATI.
Paul Clavet Honorless Internet Jerks	Posted - 2009.11.20 01:24:00 - [97] Originally by: Shinyl Originally by: Paul Clavet Originally by: DamienEx And as for the "we dont like you" comment, cant take a joke can we? So that means that you do give refunds when you you fail a contract? Because I'm still waiting on the rest of my money. So... you're complaining about someone being dishonorable towards you... but you're in a corp called Honorless Internet Jerks... Correct. If anyone trusts me with anything big, that person is likely a fool. However, I was under the impression that mercenary corps must remain true to their promises if they desire to remain a going concern. It's obvious that Damien's word is worth about 400 million ISK to him. If that's the case, then it's fine, but I have to wonder why anyone would want to hire someone whose integrity is worth so little. It's not that I need the money. It's that I don't like the thought of someone as substandard as F-OFF continuing to take money, fail contracts, laugh, and move on. If they want to scam, great! I'm just making sure that they pick a method more original than "mercenary corp that takes money and runs". Also, I've gotten some very sweet mercenary tears. As we all know, mercenary tears are extra, extra sweet. I'm not going away without a refund and full apology for the failure of the contract and the failure to make good on the refund that was due. ---- Blog: My Loot, Your Tears
JordanParey Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.11.20 04:31:00 - [98] Originally by: lol thx Originally by: JordanParey A little humility and a bit more action would go a long way here...lol. Says the guy with like 17 kills 25 losses on bc and only flies in blobs. lol. I've never made any claim to be a PVP player, and while I have considered taking ****yBear no. 3 (the first two kinda asploded) out for some piratey stuff, I fly those ships because they are good SUPPORT.
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.22 02:20:00 - [99] Oh someone hired a merc corp on us :-) Wonder who? :-p
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.23 23:14:00 - [100] So we have yet to see the mercs who have dec'ed us.... laughable really. If you have targets that undock and shoot, well take it :-)

DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.24 21:26:00 - [101] Same old, same old... hire us, we kill things, do your dirty work etc.
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.25 23:08:00 - [102] Were still available to kill things. Have a few contracts in the works but nothing official yet.
Lana's Alt Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.11.26 05:08:00 - [103] You appear to have lost everyone's interest.. I'll go get Kubi for you..
Roastedpot Blutkinder	Posted - 2009.11.26 08:22:00 - [104] Edited by: Roastedpot on 26/11/2009 08:24:30 Originally by: Lana's Alt You appear to have lost everyone's interest.. I'll go get Kubi for you.. they keep proving their own fail, we dont have to do it for them anymore including damien single handily making their war profitable for their current targets.. http://f-off.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=26224
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.26 17:17:00 - [105] What can i say, I like flying faction fit ships. The Cerberus just happens to be my pride and joy... well... was my pride and joy. Anyway, open for contracts.
Velocity Prime Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.11.26 17:48:00 - [106] Recommendation to F-OFF from someone who knows a little something about marketing: 1) Dissolve your corp and start a new one - Yes, that sucks. 2) Get a new front man. The current one is obviously inadequate at solidifying your reputation in a posative light. He may be a good FC, but a public relations specailist he is not. 3) Don't **** off people with more clout than yourselves. VelociLogic.com
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.26 18:58:00 - [107] Edited by: DamienEx on 26/11/2009 18:58:08 1. Not happening. We've been around over 5 years. This is the least of our concerns. 2. You think im the only one with the "We don't give a $h!t" attitude? 3. Who have we p!ssed off that has any influence over anything what so ever?
Argus Brond	Posted - 2009.11.26 21:28:00 - [108] Originally by: DamienEx Edited by: DamienEx on 26/11/2009 18:58:08 1. Not happening. We've been around over 5 years. This is the least of our concerns. 2. You think im the only one with the "We don't give a $h!t" attitude? 3. Who have we p!ssed off that has any influence over anything what so ever? Confirming we don't give a ****.
w1ldt4ngent SWARTA	Posted - 2009.11.26 21:57:00 - [109] Originally by: Argus Brond Originally by: DamienEx Edited by: DamienEx on 26/11/2009 18:58:08 1. Not happening. We've been around over 5 years. This is the least of our concerns. 2. You think im the only one with the "We don't give a $h!t" attitude? 3. Who have we p!ssed off that has any influence over anything what so ever? Confirming we don't give a **. Confirming your confirmation that no one gives a . ___________________________ Swartans! Prepare for glory!**
Roastedpot Blutkinder	Posted - 2009.11.26 23:10:00 - [110] Originally by: DamienEx What can i say, I like flying faction fit ships. The Cerberus just happens to be my pride and joy... well... was my pride and joy. Anyway, open for contracts. well my point is, as a merc corp, you are (generally) not supposed to hand your wartargets more isk than you have killed for the whole war in one ship.. perhaps its just my skewed view of your uselessness..

Velocity Prime Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.11.26 23:54:00 - [111] Edited by: Velocity Prime on 26/11/2009 23:56:47 Originally by: Argus Brond Originally by: DamienEx Edited by: DamienEx on 26/11/2009 18:58:08 1. Not happening. We've been around over 5 years. This is the least of our concerns. 2. You think im the only one with the "We don't give a $h!t" attitude? 3. Who have we p!ssed off that has any influence over anything what so ever? Confirming we don't give a ****. Actually, you guys should start a new thread with a new spin: "Give us your money, we don't give a fòck!" VelociLogic.com
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.27 00:13:00 - [112] Originally by: Roastedpot well my point is, as a merc corp, you are (generally) not supposed to hand your wartargets more isk than you have killed for the whole war in one ship.. perhaps its just my skewed view of your uselessness.. True yes, it is never my intention to give away all my faction mods to war targets. This just so happened to be an event in which i lost the ship. Oh well....
w1ldtang3nt	Posted - 2009.11.27 15:33:00 - [113] Originally by: Velocity Prime Actually, you guys should start a new thread with a new spin: "Give us your money, we don't give a fòck!" I smoke weed every day and I don't give a fuuuuck
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.27 20:36:00 - [114] Still open for hire.
Meaningless	Posted - 2009.11.27 21:08:00 - [115] Well guys sorry to say we do not use Merc corps.We do not need too.we call on the Alliance's that are blue too us,If we need help.has for the lost ship,I would say sorry for your loss.But we all had fun and that is what this game is,for fun.better luck next time.has for making a new corp.just try more and you guys can get it setup right. good luck to you all....good fights...o7
Kell Braugh Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.11.28 01:55:00 - [116] Damn, if I'd had seen this before, I would have contracted you to fight back when we were taking your space. - In essence, any combat related activity involving damage has been 'speed nerfed' to just take 6 times longer with a predetermined outcome coined balance by CCP.
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.11.28 19:32:00 - [117] We kill things. If they undock :-)
Roastedpot Blutkinder	Posted - 2009.11.28 20:05:00 - [118] Originally by: DamienEx We kill things. If they undock :-) you are horrible at what you do..
Armoured C Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.11.28 20:10:00 - [119] Edited by: Armoured C on 28/11/2009 20:14:03 Originally by: Kell Braugh Damn, if I'd had seen this before, I would have contracted you to fight back when we were taking your space. when i was in FOFF i wish we would of stayed and fight what we did was cowardly and pathetic. first sign of trouble we ran with our tails between our legs and ran for empire, i knew then that this wasn't the corp i wanted to be in. Some of the guys in there are allright but since that moment i lost all trust in FOFF combat abilities and looking back at the last 3 weeks combat on there killboard. im sorry but 41 Ships killed (0.5B ISK)8 Ships lost (1.9B ISK)22.02% Efficiency (ISK) i miss faife ='( /rant off
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.12.03 17:10:00 - [120] Bump... sue me, i gave in.

Cpt NathanC Minmatar Black Talon Inc.	Posted - 2009.12.03 18:33:00 - [121] Originally by: Kell Braugh Damn, if I'd had seen this before, I would have contracted you to fight back when we were taking your space. This made me giggle.
Armoured C Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.12.03 21:45:00 - [122] Originally by: Cpt NathanC Originally by: Kell Braugh Damn, if I'd had seen this before, I would have contracted you to fight back when we were taking your space. This made me giggle. aye me to and i was in FOFF at the time :)
Michael Hoare	Posted - 2009.12.04 06:20:00 - [123] -These guys still suck, in my professional opinion.
w1ldt4ngent SWARTA	Posted - 2009.12.04 06:26:00 - [124] Originally by: Michael Hoare -These guys still suck, in my professional opinion. Remind me again, what were your credentials? Oh, I forgot, you haven't got any. (fake edit: I'm not defending or attacking F-0FF.) ___________________________ Swartans! Tonight we dine in Hek!
w1ldt4ngent SWARTA	Posted - 2009.12.04 16:43:00 - [125] Originally by: Michael Hoare Edited by: Michael Hoare on 04/12/2009 07:35:50 (Real Edit)In all of my incarnations, spread across several accounts and perhaps a dozen toons I have contracted almost 10 billion ISK in mercanary fees, including a contract to this crew. I have also been on the recieveing end of their affections when they attacked a poor wormhole corporation one of my alts was sheltering in. . . once again, these lamers will just take your money and run. Worthless without proof. ___________________________ Swartans! Tonight we dine in Hek!*
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.12.04 22:56:00 - [126] I like cheesecake.
Roastedpot Blutkinder	Posted - 2009.12.04 23:44:00 - [127] Originally by: DamienEx I like cheesecake. you like failing at everything you do.
Kozlack Minmatar Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.12.05 07:44:00 - [128] I like you keeping us on the front page, thanks.
Hellfury Resurrected Incura HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.12.05 07:48:00 - [129] Originally by: Roastedpot Originally by: DamienEx I like cheesecake. you like failing at everything you do. -------------------------------------------
Byatta Kujar	Posted - 2009.12.05 07:55:00 - [130] how much to wardec an alliance?

weedmasta Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.12.05 09:37:00 - [131] Good luck guiz o7 ___________________________________ Shuuuun, shuuuun the smacktalkers.
Armoured C Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.12.05 10:52:00 - [132] Edited by: Armoured C on 05/12/2009 10:55:01 good to see you guys doing so well last week 5 Ships killed (0.5B ISK)9 Ships lost (1.1B ISK)30.61% Efficiency (ISK) and of course this week ]3 ships killed (0.4B ISK)4 Ships lost (0.4B ISK)47.53% Efficiency (ISK) FOFF KB
Roastedpot Blutkinder	Posted - 2009.12.05 18:32:00 - [133] Originally by: Armoured C Edited by: Armoured C on 05/12/2009 10:55:01 good to see you guys doing so well last week 5 Ships killed (0.5B ISK)9 Ships lost (1.1B ISK)30.61% Efficiency (ISK) and of course this week ]3 ships killed (0.4B ISK)4 Ships lost (0.4B ISK)47.53% Efficiency (ISK) FOFF KB thats because they "kill good", which actually means "die better than they kill"
Michael Hoare	Posted - 2009.12.05 19:41:00 - [134] -Careful Kiddies! If you make F-OFF cry, they will report you to CCP. Apparently making big bad mercs cry is a bannable offense. . . DamienEx has filed dozens of complaints against the people making posts in this thread, claiming everything from harrassment to personal attacks. So make certain you play nice kiddies, hate to see these clowns get their panties anymore twisted than they already are!
Armoured C Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.12.05 19:52:00 - [135] Originally by: Michael Hoare -Careful Kiddies! If you make F-OFF cry, they will report you to CCP. Apparently making big bad mercs cry is a bannable offense. . . DamienEx has filed dozens of complaints against the people making posts in this thread, claiming everything from harrassment to personal attacks. So make certain you play nice kiddies, hate to see these clowns get their panties anymore twisted than they already are! well follow the forum rules and nothing will happen.
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.12.05 20:40:00 - [136] Fact: I have reported one person. Fiction: I have reported dozens of people. If you want me to start reporting every little post that is off topic, spam, flame, or non-content containing, then I would be happy to arrange that. Although.... I do quite like my off topic, cheesecake post....
Lightningshade Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.12.06 21:31:00 - [137] Originally by: DamienEx Fact: I have reported one person. did he hurt your e-feelings?
Cpt NathanC Minmatar Breach and Clear	Posted - 2009.12.06 21:43:00 - [138] Originally by: Lightningshade Originally by: DamienEx Fact: I have reported one person. did he hurt your e-feelings? I think he may have sad face
Roastedpot Blutkinder	Posted - 2009.12.07 01:58:00 - [139] Originally by: Cpt NathanC Originally by: Lightningshade Originally by: DamienEx Fact: I have reported one person. did he hurt your e-feelings? I think he may have sad face aww poor DamienEx :(, maybe if he was any good that wouldnt happen
DamienEx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.12.07 03:35:00 - [140] You have all hurt my feelings so much that I have decided I am no longer going to be the face of F-OFF. As much as I love all your smiling faces and pretty character portraits, I am turning over command to someone else. Please enjoy his new face and welcome him with the same love you have given me.

Velocity Prime Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.12.07 19:14:00 - [141] Originally by: DamienEx You have all hurt my feelings so much that I have decided I am no longer going to be the face of F-OFF. As much as I love all your smiling faces and pretty character portraits, I am turning over command to someone else. Please enjoy his new face and welcome him with the same love you have given me. Woah, did I call it, or did I call it?! Originally by: Velocity Prime Recommendation to F-OFF from someone who knows a little something about marketing: 1) Dissolve your corp and start a new one - Yes, that sucks. 2) Get a new front man. The current one is obviously inadequate at solidifying your reputation in a posative light. He may be a good FC, but a public relations specailist he is not. 3) Don't ** off people with more clout than yourselves. What was your response? Originally by:** DamienEx Edited by: DamienEx on 26/11/2009 18:58:08 1. Not happening. We've been around over 5 years. This is the least of our concerns. 2. You think im the only one with the "We don't give a $h!t" attitude? 3. Who have we p!ssed off that has any influence over anything what so ever? You guys really do care about your image. Congratulations and good luck in your future endeavors. VelociLogic.com


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