Originally by: the plague

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I'm generally very supporting of CCP and its design decisions. Even when I disagree with a particular decision, I can almost always see where the devs were coming from, even if I would have chosen another path. But this is just asinine.

I'm almost always on your side, CCP, but even I have to wonder if there isn't some truth to the charge that the devs no longer play the game or even know what's going on.

The Mothership has always been one of the coolest ships in the game, but one rarely seen or used because it was huge waste of ISK. Worse than a waste of ISK, it was little more than a very expensive target. But finally, after years of neglect, this class of ships was finally going to be made into a weapon fearsome enough to justify the extreme price and inability to dock. After testing the new Supercarrier design several times on SISI over the last few weeks, I was still unconvinced the ship was effective enough as it remains one of the few ships in the game that can have its primary weapons taken away from it quite easily. But still, it was still a move in the right direction.

And then someone decided to nerf the damn thing back into uselessness before we even got to use it! This has got to be some kind of new record.

Really CCP, you need to get it into your heads that many players see cap warfare as EVE's endgame. They won't spend years and years paying for accounts, training up characters, and painstakingly building up in-game assets just to fly the same old ships as the noobs. People want an endgame! It is not unreasonable or "unbalanced" for players who have invested years in your game to demand rewards commensurate with that kind of investment. I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that this habit of nerfing and pre-nerfing everything in the damn game into oblivion is beyond old. A lot of us are to the point where we're questioning whether it's really worth the time, energy and in-game currency to invest in anything in this game because it will likely just get snatched away at some point on the whim of some dev.

Come on CCP, you're supposed to be giving seasoned players more reasons to stick with EVE and keep playing. Instead, your intent seems to be to nerf every worthwhile investment in the game into complete uselessness. But if you're not real damn careful, you're going to end up nerfing EVE into uselessness.

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Originally by: Aequitas Veritas

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Edited by: Aequitas Veritas on 14/11/2009 10:17:06
How about:
- Keep the EHP buff
- Let it launch 20 drones (needs that for self protection against smaller ships)
- Limit the bandwith so it can only launch 15 FBs (still 20 fighters) (still does enough damage?)
- Keep the price and buildtime as it is so they dont proliferate like mad
- If you must let them dock that can only happen with a 1 hour redock timer or something

and

- Perhaps make a 2nd "supercarrier" that can use fighterbombers, doesnt have ew immunity, cant use clone vat bay and so on. Gives the newer players something inbetween reg caps and supercaps to look forward to.

Current mom owners doesnt want to see their ship reduced to another carrier class and ppl that doesnt have a ms wants a better ship than what the carrier class today offers. Its good to have goals to strive for, its what keeps ppl playing. Reducing a mom to a "cheap" and accessible ship removes a dream from the game. The step up to a Titan is way to wide for a "regular" player. Thus the mom with its current pricerange and with some buffed abilities ends up as the perfect engame for regular players. We need our dreams.

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