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cpu939 Gallente Volatile Nature Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.11.11 21:13:00 - [1] Originally by: The Mittani seriouspost if you're some random dude developer who's never flown a mothership you need to back away slowly and let someone who actually has a clue what he's doing handle this ok peace out~ this has to be like a 1st of me to agree with a goon. but he is right also just looked on the test server carrier can do the same amount of drones 10 carrier lvl 5 carrier can atlest fit 1 warfare link module carrier can triage mod ok euthanasia mode not two worried about that the only thing a super carrier has now is it is immune to ew and projected eccm so for the 15b aprox they cost i can do more in a carrier then i can in the super carrier if i lose it i can get 14 more for the same price. ccp please change this back as it is a mega nerf to the super carrier. 01101111 01100110 01100110 01100010 01100101 01100001 01110100 00100000 01100011 01110010 01100101 01100001 01110100 01101001 01101111 01101110
cpu939 Gallente Volatile Nature Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.11.12 22:25:00 - [2] I have scene many nerfs and they bring a few alliances together, this is the 1st nerf that I have scene all the major alliance join force as one voice öwhat are you onö I mean get real think about it here are payers that have worked hard and now to have 2/3 of there isk gone because you think it is a good idea to do so. Why on earth do you think this? come on reply tell me/us how can you take 10b in value and just laugh in the face of your customers. You can't say your not laughing at us, due to your low replies and stealth nerfs, I mean if you want us to stay with your company and give you our cash then I think you should be replying to us. You keep talking about working with the players and then you go and do stuff to show you really don't want to work with us. Come on ccp get your finger out and start to talk with us the player the one who have stayed and will likely stay with you. You want feedback, you want our help then tell us what your ideas are not just this crap ôthis is what we are doingö. Now tell me what are you going to give the players that have spent the time and isk to get these ships. What you have given them with this patch new fighter-bombers less drones/fighters/fighter-bombers more hp made us think they yes they will be of use then made the useless removed vat bay, warfare link, triaged removed Btw what is the play out on insurance on a mother ship. 0101011 001101111 011011000 110000101110100 01101001011011000 1100101001000000 1001110011000010 11101000111010101 11001001100101
cpu939 Gallente Volatile Nature Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.11.16 15:07:00 - [3] Originally by: Tobruk This whole thing is so absurd. EVERYHTING WAS FINE BEFORE YOU MADE THESE CHANGES NOZAH Don't lower cost and gimp the dps hoping that they will become more widespread. If they are good ships they will become more widespread. Don't let them dock so that more people will buy them. If they were as originally tested on SiSi then people will use them regardless. Don't gimp the number of drones to reduce lag. Fix the graphics and coding to enable more bombers. I get what you are going for but all that would have been, simply by leaving things as they were. If you insist on continuing then you owe current MS owners that 5-6 Bil in reduced build cost directly to their wallets, no questions asked. you screwed them big time with your announcement and with these changes. alot of people are saying that we super cap owners are whinnning due to the dps loss i would still like the 20 drones/fighters but the real hit here is the fact that here is such a big isk loss never in eve has any 1 item loss such value in one go. well not in my 3 almost 4 years of playing yes we had the speed nerf and people lost bills from items they could not sell in time this is the 1st time any item has lost 10b in market value. if this hits TQ it will be the biggest nerf to the game in an isk value and yes even a dps value. 0101011 001101111 011011000 110000101110100 01101001011011000 1100101001000000 1001110011000010 11101000111010101 11001001100101
cpu939 Gallente Volatile Nature Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.11.16 19:24:00 - [4] Originally by: Taarna Galin It looks like the workday has come and gone for Nozh and he couldn't spare 5 minutes to post something, anything. remember he doesn't care about the ms pilot player base all he cares about is bumming down eve to get new players in next thing you'll see is the capital skill books costing 36m for capital ship 40m for carrier 8m for dread and 450m for titan i mean no reply from any ccp dev and no dev blog also changes not happing on sisi, i think his post with the changes to docking and 2 fighter/drones per level was just a ploy to get us to wait and then it will hit tq and will be told no this is it. also this is one of the devs along with zulupark who wants only 5 fighter/drones for carriers and ms with us having to give out the others now that he has took 50% away from the ms how long till he removes the other 25%. ccp rp = look we value our players we even have a csm group made up and voted by the players ccp reality = we make the rules if you don't like it tought. while i would like to go to fanfest where alot of talking on the super caps took place i now fell it is a pr stunt and like most stunts ends up going bad. 0101011 001101111 011011000 110000101110100 01101001011011000 1100101001000000 1001110011000010 11101000111010101 11001001100101
cpu939 Gallente Volatile Nature Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.11.16 19:39:00 - [5] Originally by: Agmar I'm looking for Nozh's dev blog, but I'm not finding it. The last minute is not the right time to implement massive changes. What's wrong with sticking to what everyone agreed to be good, THEN assess the need for a nerf or change later? that would need ccp to use logic 0101011 001101111 011011000 110000101110100 01101001011011000 1100101001000000 1001110011000010 11101000111010101 11001001100101
cpu939 Gallente Volatile Nature Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.11.17 16:44:00 - [6] Originally by: CCP Abathur Good morning, thread. I'd like to start off by saying a few things that you all should consider in your feedback. Dominion is not being released tomorrow or next week; it's still 2-3 months from deployment. We have no intention of springing changes on the player base at the last minute. One of the reasons we are putting out so much information now is that we want to get this stuff onto the test server and allow you all to play with it and provide feedback. We appreciate the scope of the changes we are implementing and are not just planning to just ignore your concerns. At this stage of development, there are still quite a few things we can alter in terms of balance. We want to include you in the process and the Dev team will be following these threads, and subsequent ones on the Test Server forum, very closely. Please bear this in mind in your replies. so no last minute changes, wait yes there was not ignoring our concerns, wait yes told dev blog about last minute change no reply from devs for days include us the players in the process, no one ccp dev changed it no reason as to why he did the changes but same dev was also one of the devs that wanted carrier and moms to have only 5 fighter and make you hand out the rest, yes i do think this dev should never go near capital ships again move him to only work with rookie ship and shuttle changes. some of hte player base might say there is whining in this topic but we are the players that fly them and yes i infact want more people to fly them they look good both on the battle field and on the killboards. don't drop the price by 40%, sure drop the price as your removing the clone vat bay, keep the 3 extra drones per level, yes i know the ship costs a lot but i know corps that have these ships and it was the work of the corp that got these ships all members worked to get them no moon goo used. this leads to team work and is also a good goal for corps to work towards. ccp atlest give us the information on what and why you are doing it not this wall of deadly silentance. 0101011 001101111 011011000 110000101110100 01101001011011000 1100101001000000 1001110011000010 11101000111010101 11001001100101
cpu939 Gallente Volatile Nature Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.11.17 19:12:00 - [7] Originally by: Oljud Zork Well I cross post hers since you clearly discuss dps from the new xMom¦s. This is my post in the Super Carrier feedback tread. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1180138&page=21#606 Against Capitals the Hel are the top damage dealer even if the Nyx has a damage bonus, it¦s because the Hel has a Explosion Radius bonus to the missiles fired by the Fighter Bombers. Against Titans and Super Carriers are the winner the Nyx. Regards // Zork Linkage this is worth a read nice work on it 0101011 001101111 011011000 110000101110100 01101001011011000 1100101001000000 1001110011000010 11101000111010101 11001001100101
cpu939 Gallente Volatile Nature Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.11.19 22:29:00 - [8] 7 days and no dev blog, whats going on ccp scared of what we might say? is this where you tell the carrier pilots that to keep the super carrier better then you we have given it not only the the fighter-bombers but only 10, so to make it better for them we will be removing 50% of your drone useage. -Or is it a case you don't know what to stay you know these super capital pilots are multipul account holders and your trying to work out the cost if they leave. sure some will say let them go, lets think on this for a minute if the super carrier pilot only has 2 accounts then that a very small drop to ccp what if like me and they have more lets say 5 accounts thats 2000+ accounts still small, but what i find is most of these older players are also doing fc'ing, production, ceo/directors and they keep there corp/alliance running. also if like myself they have sold ETC then that can be an added impact to the game maybe only 1/4 sell ETC but thats still 100+ codes gone. all we are asking now is to know what is going on and to be able to reply to your ideas sure it might be whinny some of it is good infomation that the dev might not have looked at. so to ccp get your finger out and give us the information 0101011 001101111 011011000 110000101110100 01101001011011000 1100101001000000 1001110011000010 11101000111010101 11001001100101

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