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Ranscrip
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Posted - 2009.11.12 03:21:00 -
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Hello, i am looking for as much information I can get on level 10 complexes.
I primarily want to know what it takes to do it. Could a battleship with dual true sansha reppers with 70%/75% across with 6 heavy repair drones on him tank it? Is there much for energy neut rats?
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Ranscrip
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Posted - 2009.11.12 13:11:00 -
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Hello guys and thanks for your replies! I'm fairly excited just to hear that they *can* be done solo.
I don't intend to do them solo; I have 2 alt raven pilots (where the 6 heavy repper drones come from) for DPS. The tank (a navy apoc) is just going to be fit with smartbombs, tractors and salvagers with the biggest tank i manage. i'd use a regular apoc if I could turn the second repairer on only on occasion.
the ravens won't be paper, but I don't want them to get aggro anyway, so I'd like to aggro everything with the apoc and then bring the ravens in.
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Ranscrip
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Posted - 2009.11.12 13:56:00 -
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Kora, i'm not disagreeing, but rather trying to figure this out.
The dual reps do over 3x the repair as a NH with only 15% avg resist less.
It will be repairing 3k armor every 11.25 seconds indefinitely, and if I use faction resist modules, I could probably get around 80%/85% resists.
What do you think?
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Ranscrip
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Posted - 2009.11.12 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: ONLYDEADCAN SEE ... smartbombs etc....Also remind that repair drones are not efficient as logistic ships.....
Thanks for the reply!
That's very useful information; smartbombs would ruin repair drones. I would use a logistics ship, but i am just trying to utilize the ships available to me.
With a battleship tank, I wouldn't factor in sig; I would assume maximum damage. Citadels aren't extreme DPS, but could be difficult if a large volley was released.
Any recommended setups for 3 ships? Is there any way 3 battleships could run a plex safely (pirates not taken into account) & efficiently?
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Ranscrip
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Posted - 2009.11.13 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: Le Chevalier Just a thought, are there heavy neut towers in your lvl 10 complex? We run nighthawk in lvl 5 missions because of the completely passive tank. If your cap disappears in 30 seconds because of neuts things could get ugly quickly.
Yeah, that's some of the information I'm looking for. Obviously I have not run level 10 complexes, so I don't know what to expect. If there are generally only a few neutralizers, it wouldn't be bad because I could take care of them fairly quick. If there's a pile of them, a passive or remote rep tank is almost necessary.
Does anyone have any real numbers on DPS and electronic warfare? All I want to know is how much repair is needed at what amount of resists, and I'd like to know what type of ewar to expect (target jamming, neutralizers, etc. as well as quantity).
Thanks to everyone so far for all the constructive posts.
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Ranscrip
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Posted - 2009.11.13 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: DeputyFruitfly Edited by: DeputyFruitfly on 13/11/2009 07:42:35
Originally by: bnogo Melodramatic talk that ends up not too far from the right idea snipped
Inty that's cap stable with mwd and shield/armor rep running @ large orbit around station.
2x 200km snipe bs, which cloak on new spawn so the inty gets the aggro.
Done.
More snipe dps makes it faster, but 2 are sufficient.
There are other ways, but that's def a good one.
That seems like a good idea. Perhaps I'll train my apoc pilot towards an inty; that would save me a lot of money anyhow... i just wont be able to salvage. two cruise ravens should be ok for sniping or am i wrong?
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Ranscrip
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Posted - 2009.11.13 13:19:00 -
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Edited by: Ranscrip on 13/11/2009 13:22:09
Originally by: Forranz Kinda shocked nobody else caught this.. 6 Repair Drones.. can your two alts not use 5 drones each? Two cruise ravens are not a lot of dps as well..
Repair drones require lvl 5 drones & associated skills. 3 heavy's actually repairs more than 5 mediums (and the raven only has room for 3 heavys)
Yeah, if i need 200k range though, torps are out of the question. The farthest I can get a siege is 60km. It would almost double the DPS though. Any sniper ship wont have much more DPS than cruise either; snipers just have low DPS.
Maybe i should have 1 cruise raven and 1 torp raven?
BTW, since energy neuts will turn MWD off, is 550m/s fast enough to withstand the citadel?
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Ranscrip
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Posted - 2009.11.13 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: DeputyFruitfly Doesn't really matter, though. You're likely to do whatever you want, then die, then cry bitter tears, wondering why no-one tried to help you.
Why do you say that?
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