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Elaron
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.11.13 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Pattern Clarc I'm pretty certain now, that the balance team really have no idea what their doing.
I've been of that opinion since the non-answer about balance in the never-repeated "I'll answer all your questions" thread a couple of years ago.
There is apparently a dev blog coming, presumably about all capital warfare, and it had better be pretty damn epic otherwise - well, they thought the negativity they saw about ghost training and the carrier nerf was bad?
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Elaron
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.11.16 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Mkiaki The change to the Nag is awesome 
Are you a bitter Moros pilot? :P
Once again, Nozh - and I'm sure it was you that did this - you really must reconsider this change. Doing this at this stage seems, well, petty.
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Elaron
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.11.19 18:21:00 -
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I've submitted bug report ID #86867 with the following text:
Quote: Only a few months ago, the Naglfar was changed by CCP Chronotis to be focused more on projectile damage than relying on split weapon bonuses. See thread http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1061225, specifically post 498 on page 17 which details the changes that made it to Tranquility.
This came about after a very long period of player lobbying with proof that the Naglfar was substantially subpar compared to the other dreadnoughts. This lobbying effort even involved the CSM, and the improvement to the ship has been touted since as one of the things the CSM has achieved.
The current change on SiSi back to split weapon bonuses undoes a significant portion of the improvement. The Naglfar is already the most training-intensive dreadnought to pilot (requiring two - soon three - capital weapon systems trained as well as, for maximum fitting flexibility, both capital tanking methods); to hamper it with what will effectively be only one weapon bonus (it is mathematically demonstrable that two split weapon bonuses are equivalent to one weapon bonus on more focused ships) feels unjust and poorly thought out. On top of it, fitting it will be more problematic as the requirement to fit double the number of weapon modules in order to get the same increase in damage means less slots available for tanking.
Please revisit the Naglfar changes before Dominion and I implore you to revert the ship back to focused weapon bonuses, with citadel missiles being a supplement to DPS, not a major component. The current change on SiSi is desperately unfair to a ship that has only just been changed to let it be competitive for the first time. If you feel that the Tranquility bonuses of 7.5% each overdo it for the ship, then by all means reduce them, but please keep the projectile focus that the players and the CSM lobbied so hard for.
Looking forward to seeing what the response is.
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Elaron
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.11.23 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: HeliosGal actualy ignore the 00 whiners and go with the balance. Put dominions thro and have a mini patch with mothership changes to make em adapt or die more
I wouldn't have minded a reduction in the Naglfar's bonuses for balance, but returning the ship to having a split weapon bonus is asinine and insulting.
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Elaron
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.11.27 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: SiSi bonuses for the Naglfar Minmatar Dreadnought Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Capital Projectile damage per level 5% bonus to Missile Launcher rate of fire per level.
Something about the wording of the latter bonus led me to wonder something. It doesn't specify citadel missile launchers.
So I fitted a Siege Launcher II to the ship.
And it got the Rate of Fire bonus.
I've bug reported it, so let's see if that stays...
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Elaron
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.11.27 15:53:00 -
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Edited by: Elaron on 27/11/2009 15:55:07
Originally by: Seishi Maru Wonder if ccp is paying attention how many naglfars are being suicided before insurance expires. Personally I know already 3 pilots :)
Well, I'm seriously thinking about liquidating the investment I made in my Naggy.
Edit: Oh yes, and it look like that RoF bonus applying to non-Citadel launchers is intended.
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Elaron
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.12.22 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abathur Naglfar has been made Vertical again.
Thanks for listening to us, Abathur!
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