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CCP Abraxas

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Posted - 2009.11.16 13:50:00 -
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And now we've got the second part of that little about-face I wrote.
This is a new entry in our chronicle series, published on Mondays every other week.
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2009.11.16 14:14:00 -
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So this explains how pod pilots can change their portraits, which means I'm as guilty as Gilea then. 
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Avan Sercedos
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.11.16 14:34:00 -
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I am slightly creeped out 
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K'uata Sayus
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Posted - 2009.11.16 14:49:00 -
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Part two was a bit anti-climactic, I half expected a strange twist where Gilea would end up in prison and the face she selected set free to assume her identity....
EVERYONE SEEMS NORMAL UNTIL YOU GET TO KNOW THEM. |

Coupe Soleil
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Posted - 2009.11.16 15:03:00 -
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I thought that was a good second part. I didn't see that coming until the masked man killed himself. Unsettling story though, Eve is a creepy place.
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.11.16 15:13:00 -
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Wow, what a story.
Luckily, that not all of us with power and money are selfish bastards but actually care for the mis-fortunate.
Btw. Abraxas, does podpilots store their original body, the one the carries the scars from their childhood and youth, somewhere safe or does it get destroyed the first time their have a pod breach?
While this chronicle beautifully describes the "mechanics" behind avatar face alterations, I think it could be interesting to dip into the mechanics of clone jumping and what that means to the concepts of being alive or dead. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
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Myyona
Minmatar Ataraxia Pharmacies
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Posted - 2009.11.16 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: Myyona on 16/11/2009 15:18:31 Wow, what a story.
Luckily, that not all of us with power and money are selfish bastards but actually care for the mis-fortunate.
Btw. Abraxas, does podpilots store their original body, the one the carries the scars from their childhood and youth, somewhere safe or does it get destroyed the first time their have a pod breach?
While this chronicle beautifully describes the "mechanics" behind avatar face alterations, I think it could be interesting to dip into the mechanics of clone jumping where you can actually meet your former self, and what that means to the concepts of being alive or dead.
--- Nobody can do everything, but everybody can do nothing |

Sidrat Flush
Caldari Life is Experience New Eden Hardware Emporium
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Posted - 2009.11.16 15:58:00 -
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On the subject of clones, I thought they were all stored in suspended animation at the bio-facility until you needed to use it, then your brain image would be transferred to the clone on death of your current physical form.
Some people say that the bodies are grown from stem cells, others say it's labotomized prisoners or other enemies of the State. Who knows for sure though.
Eve-online Industrial Organiser thread full batch manufacturing
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Tirrus Rex
Minmatar American Gods Sanctimony of Bellum
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Posted - 2009.11.16 16:19:00 -
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Not my favorite chronicle. I thought it was pretty cliched, and have seen better.
I'd be interested in seeing stories that are sophisticated but *not* gloomy or sadistic more often. The author is a fantastic wordsmith, and there is a big universe out there. How about mining some story telling themes from a new vein?
Dave
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Julian Darklight
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Posted - 2009.11.16 16:45:00 -
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Creepy story but an exelent one. rippin someones face off??! an i thought i was sadistic! lol
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.11.16 16:58:00 -
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One thing I noticed in several chronicles from different authors is the use of the empire as a race classification. IMHO, this should be avoided and instead the bloodline used. This will give a much more accurate first impression of the character and allows the reader to establish a visual archetype before more information about a character is given, if any.
For example, instead of writing "A group of Minmatar clansmen stormed into the bar." you write "A group of Vherokior clansmen stormed into the bar." In the first example, you probably thought of Brutor or similar types and not of a bunch of Vherokior on a sugar rush. --------
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MeatyBTZ
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Posted - 2009.11.16 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: MeatyBTZ on 16/11/2009 17:49:16 I kind of thought of that once.. A story revolving around a Pilot tired of the never ending but not wanting to stop being a pilot. Wanting to have both.. fakes his death, cuts out the chip that activates on death to wake a clone, while he ships to some paridise planet and does something mundain for the rest of his life. Alas, its not to be, slavers attack the planet he is taken as a slave and the transport pilot happens to be his "other self". Kind of a Gemini Story. Lots of untaped potential there. Tons of possible plot lines. Cloning Capsuleers to try and increase fleet size for an up comming war, etc. Other madness. Could be something Sansha tried.
As for the story, good as ever, but yeah kinda creepy. More than a little disturbing...
Originally by: Myyona Edited by: Myyona on 16/11/2009 15:18:31 Wow, what a story.
Luckily, that not all of us with power and money are selfish bastards but actually care for the mis-fortunate.
Btw. Abraxas, does podpilots store their original body, the one the carries the scars from their childhood and youth, somewhere safe or does it get destroyed the first time their have a pod breach?
While this chronicle beautifully describes the "mechanics" behind avatar face alterations, I think it could be interesting to dip into the mechanics of clone jumping where you can actually meet your former self, and what that means to the concepts of being alive or dead.
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Alenora Tizar
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Posted - 2009.11.17 00:37:00 -
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lol does this mean I can redo my characters portrait? :P
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lord khnrageX
Amarr Socialites Of The Crazy Horse Saloon Temporal Abyss
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Posted - 2009.11.17 02:34:00 -
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I think this should have been the halloween story instead of the prospangnosia one. lord khnrage |

Melakith Entar
Minmatar FinFleet IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.17 04:36:00 -
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This is a prime example of the seedy underbelly of New Eden, where everything can be bought for a price. Just goes to show that money is no obstacle to some people, and neither is their conscience.
One of the best, if not more chilling Chronicles I have read.
Well done.
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Yaar Podshipnik
Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.11.17 11:11:00 -
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That part about underground drug manufacturing reminded me of some earlier chronicle. There were masked people there and flies. I don't remember which chronicle it was though. Help anyone?
---- Paxton Industries Capital Shipyards - order your big ships today! |

Ranalome
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Posted - 2009.11.17 14:52:00 -
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Hmm... doesn't Prosopagnosia make a bit more sense now? Just wondering..
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Meleric
Caldari Brotherhood of Wolves
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Posted - 2009.11.17 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ranalome Hmm... doesn't Prosopagnosia make a bit more sense now? Just wondering..
Even my thought after reading this chronicle this morning in bed. What if he doesn't suffer Prosopagnosia, but their faces were used the same way (or used for the capsuleers clones maybe?). AFAIR, the capsuleer was very kind, so maybe he had some possibility to duplicate his face in some way and give them his face for exchange ... MAN ! this is getting weirder with every chronicle in this row. It really shows the abyss of some persons ...
Can't wait for the next chronicle !!!
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Phiillipa Suresh
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Posted - 2009.11.17 18:45:00 -
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Brrr, I got the genuine shivers after reading that. In the universe of New Eden, ISK really can buy you anything.
What would I like to know is what Gilea's reasons were for applying for the ultimate face-lift. Was it necessity or merely vanity. Or was it her knowing that she could do it, and that was reason in itself.
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Natalie Mia
Minmatar Prophetics Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.17 21:00:00 -
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This was a pretty cool story. It would seem to fit for a lead in to the character reconstruction that the Devs have been talking about when "Walking in stations" comes into effect. I would hate to think that my reconstruction would leave some virtual prisoner without a face and in mental termoil. OK JK on the caring about the virtual prisoner.
Nat
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Meleric
Caldari Brotherhood of Wolves
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Posted - 2009.11.17 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Yaar Podshipnik
EDIT: Ah, not a chronicle, a short story :) Saccade
I love when you tie your stories to something old and obscure, and then a small detail brings out the memories of a good read.
There are still some links missing ... masks as punishment there and "new" faces for some rich maniacs here ... or was that punishment just a lie for the new employee? Really weird 
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2009.11.17 22:43:00 -
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D:
D: D: D: D: D: ________________
Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
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Anubis Assassin
Caldari SandStorm.
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Posted - 2009.11.17 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: K'uata Sayus Part two was a bit anti-climactic, I half expected a strange twist where Gilea would end up in prison and the face she selected set free to assume her identity....
I kinda had the same thoughts here... F***ed up story though :/ --------------------------- I have to make my own sig break? WTF? These forums suck CCP, fix 'em or get something better... I'm tired of reading Khraunus' sig every single time I read one of his |

Shinta Kobi
Minmatar Gun Metal Priests The Makhai
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Posted - 2009.11.17 23:56:00 -
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Depressing, creepy, multi-sided, doesn't give too much away too fast, makes sense after being read... good read here. Like a movie; if you read both parts again after the first time, you get more out of it IMO. :)
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.11.18 02:30:00 -
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Let's hope this sort of thing never happens with weenies. 
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Azura Noctis
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Posted - 2009.11.18 05:35:00 -
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Edited by: Azura Noctis on 18/11/2009 05:36:48 Edited by: Azura Noctis on 18/11/2009 05:35:47 Very nice, quite a tragic fate for anyone to receive.
EDIT-Victim reminds me of Lisa Trevor slightly.
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Typhado3
Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.11.18 07:05:00 -
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Edited by: Typhado3 on 18/11/2009 07:09:12 Very nice. Very interesting story.
And good spotting on the connection between this and that other short story.
Couple questions though, who really runs these things? what the hell did these people do to end up in these prisons? Something tells me they didn't do something that bad... maybe it's the fact the picture makes the victim look sorta like an angle.
The one thing I find slightly wierd in this chronicle is the minmatar flashback (or whatever you call it), it just sounds so much like it's the sorta scene you would see in a Amarr slave mine. At first I wasn't sure weather this was an Amarr camp with Minmatar prisoners or a Minmatar camp with Minmatar prisoners until I went back and re-read the first part of this chronicle. I just find it slightly wierd or disgusting that the minmatar would do exactly the same to their own as they have been rebeling against for so long. Not saying it's not impossible it's EVE afterall can't expect people to be nice.
It would make a lot more sense to me (or at least make me feel a lot better about being minmatar) if these where run by the pirate factions. However that brings up it's own problems with the blood raiders, stealing peoples faces would probably be a step up for them.
Also while I don't see myself doing it will we be able to run these sort of places when planetary interaction is released? ------------------------------
Just a crazy inventor ccp fix mining agent missions % pls
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Angry Poster
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Posted - 2009.11.18 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Myyona Btw. Abraxas, does podpilots store their original body, the one the carries the scars from their childhood and youth, somewhere safe or does it get destroyed the first time their have a pod breach?
According to the Empyrean Age novel the "original" body of the capsuleer is destroyed when they first get podded. The Gallente ceptor pilot (who's name I can't remember) talks about how his new body's skin feels like that of a newborn baby and comments on a scar that he used to have that is now gone.
Of course there might be situations where this is not true. For example if you create a jump clone when you still have your original body then jump to the new clone and store your original body somewhere safe. But usually the original body will be lost once the pod is breached (or at the very least the body's brain will be destroyed to facilitate the transfer of the conciousness).
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Meleric
Caldari Brotherhood of Wolves
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Posted - 2009.11.18 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Typhado3
It would make a lot more sense to me (or at least make me feel a lot better about being minmatar) if these where run by the pirate factions. However that brings up it's own problems with the blood raiders, stealing peoples faces would probably be a step up for them.
Sure. If one of these factions runs this "service", the cruel lying about the face-"givers" (put to death) would be comprehensive. On the other hand, would the wish for a new face bring rich people to deal with pirate factions? Though, the original face was stored "ready for use if she ever needed it back". Or, if the corporation needed the face for some intent? Weird, weird ....
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Flora Marx
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Posted - 2009.11.18 19:25:00 -
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it really got me hooked up...
and no.. i wasnt expecting any twist. this is how bad things are
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Zeredek
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Posted - 2009.11.18 20:21:00 -
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That was f***ing scary... --------- rawr |

Doctor Dodo
Caldari Dalek Tactical Industries Wasted Wolves
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Posted - 2009.11.19 12:00:00 -
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It just goes to show how hard the eve universe is.
It did give me an idea for a mission type for when you have walking in stations. You have to hunt down a facial "volunteer", stun them then drag em back to your agent for a reward.
When I do something stupid it's a learning experience, when you do something stupid it's comedy. |

Jngar
Amarr TEMPLAR. Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.11.20 14:51:00 -
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Excellent story.
It is not even all that far fetched. I just read about a sickening parallel with RL: Gang Abducts People to Drain Their Fat and Sell it to the Rich
(copied and pasted from the thread on part 1 where i accidentally posted this first)
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ellena allente
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Posted - 2009.11.20 19:55:00 -
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creepy story, New Eden is sooo messed up
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AppleStew
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Posted - 2009.11.20 21:47:00 -
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So can I gun down my own face, tractor in the frozen corpse, take it to the nearest med facility and get his face burned on to mine? 
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Celanti
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2009.11.20 22:14:00 -
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Edited by: Celanti on 20/11/2009 22:13:59
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Kaito Rei
Gallente Kentucky Fried Capitals New EVE Rising
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Posted - 2009.11.20 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: Anubis Assassin
Originally by: K'uata Sayus Part two was a bit anti-climactic, I half expected a strange twist where Gilea would end up in prison and the face she selected set free to assume her identity....
I kinda had the same thoughts here... F***ed up story though :/
i second to that and was kinda disappointed that it didnt go that way, but when it would've, then it wouldnt be that dark and evil eve.^^ _________________________________________________________
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Lusulpher
Blackwater Syndicate Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.11.20 23:35:00 -
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Edited by: Lusulpher on 20/11/2009 23:38:06 Edited by: Lusulpher on 20/11/2009 23:37:01
Originally by: Angry Poster Edited by: Angry Poster on 18/11/2009 08:56:09
Originally by: Myyona Btw. Abraxas, does podpilots store their original body, the one the carries the scars from their childhood and youth, -stuff-- Edit:
Quote: Couple questions though, who really runs these things? what the hell did these people do to end up in these prisons? Something tells me they didn't do something that bad... maybe it's the fact the picture makes the victim look sorta like an angle.
In a place where money rules the world I'd assume that prisons and penal services would have been privatized long ago. So the prisons are being run by companies that wish to maximize their income and minimize their expenses. And if a few lousy prisoners have to lose face over it (literally) then so be it.
In real life prisoners were/are also often used for medical experiments and other such research - it's just that these prisons and experiments were usually state-sponsored but in a place like the caldari state where the "state" basically is run by capitalist companies ... why not?
Don't let your conscience stand in the way of profit. 
Preach on!
When it comes to the empires/RL, the philosophies define the bad guys vs. good guys, the methods are far from the ideals. Fair and expedient trials in Gallente space...waterboarding, foreign-based prison camps run by secretive police.
Liberated slaves going home to rebuild...chaotic tribal governments conflicting with each other. Even stealing food and committing genocide/discrimination against their own refugees based on how much they fear their former overlords.
Communist, Socialistic utopia in Caldari space...corrupt, dictatorial/obligarchy, capitalistic China/Russia/Cuba/Cambodia.
Religious beacon of the crumbling Universe in Amarr...corrupt, gluttonous Catholic establishment from the Crusades.
Jovians secretly monitoring everyone to see how much Humanity they can glean before erasing the rest...2012.
See a pattern? Take that pattern and assume all of those places are super-Capitalistic and spaceships are like Fords.[And space is like pudding. And there is no cyno warmup. And rockets suck.]  TotalHelDeath.
Also, liked how you toned back on the shockingly, shiny words. It did not break my immersion to the very end. 4.5/5 You still have more poetic and traumatic stories in the older Chrons. And I'm glad I read them all. Keep this up.
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Lusulpher
Blackwater Syndicate Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.11.20 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jngar Excellent story.
It is not even all that far fetched. I just read about a sickening parallel with RL: Gang Abducts People to Drain Their Fat and Sell it to the Rich
(copied and pasted from the thread on part 1 where i accidentally posted this first)
Ummm, who is buying this "secret, rare human fat"? WOuld they like to purchase the rare stuff in my exotic "driveway"?
People, being killed, for cosmetic purposes only. New low? Or same ****, new toilet? 
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Vor Nofos
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Posted - 2009.11.21 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Mashie Saldana So this explains how pod pilots can change their portraits, which means I'm as guilty as Gilea then. 
Actually, there's an artificial process as well which was presented in the first part :)
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Pliauga
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.23 13:33:00 -
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Good read. Me likes.
------- "Skynet" is my internet provider, should I be worried? |

Tara Maroo
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Posted - 2009.11.25 04:30:00 -
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Awesome, I've never teken the time to read any of the EVE Chronicles. I may start after now :)
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Hazel Lynn
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Posted - 2009.11.25 12:30:00 -
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This story has just killed a tiny portion of my hope for mankind.
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Studly McStudderson
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Posted - 2009.11.26 17:11:00 -
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I thought it was going to turn out like the Orson Scott Card Story Fat Farm.
If you haven't read it, I recommend it. you can find it in Orson Scott Card's Intergalactic Medicine Show"
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Irongut
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.11.27 00:21:00 -
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Excellent story Abraxas, possibly one of your best. The pacing and creepiness are perfect. I'm really looking forward to reading your book when Amazon get it back in stock.
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Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution
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Posted - 2009.11.27 22:21:00 -
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Excellent story, I really like the writing style. Reminds me very much of the book Spares by Michael Marshall Smith., although your writing style is more Grim.
This was the first chronicle I've read in about 5 years .. good starting point, I'll have to go back and read part one!
 Buy ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in the Eve-Online Store |

Tyrone Bighams
Gallente Mnemonic Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.11.27 23:43:00 -
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ohgod. creepy as anything. good story though.
In Actuality What Has Been Stated Applies More Directly To The Former Poster Than to Myself. NO, U!!!
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Terra Mikael
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.11.28 03:02:00 -
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She didn't want that face anyway ___________ Proof that Daniel Jackson is a ret@rded furry |

Emdium
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Posted - 2009.11.28 22:42:00 -
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I think my character would appreciate a new face. He sure could use it. If he had any vanity that is. Great read.
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Isaac Starstriker
Amarr The Confederate Navy Forever Unbound
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Posted - 2009.12.05 07:02:00 -
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^ that mostly
Good read, a bit creeped out and now I'm curious about your mental state (lol jk)
--Isaac Signature is now under construction: check back in a couple weeks. Or months....
AMAAR VICTOR!
"You just can't fix stupid"
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Anmaris Voeld
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Posted - 2009.12.28 03:02:00 -
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Great chronicle!
I think it's probably safe to say that we don't really know that governments (or at least all the governments) are behind the secret prisons and masked ones. The marketing guy Vertan told his client that, and the prisoners themselves might think they are held in government custody, but who knows the truth of it. It seems a little unlikely that four separate empires would develop nearly same technique for dealing with forced-face transplants (only the shape and form of the masks differ).
It's more likely that a single corp or organized crime syndicate is behind this program. They might buy prisoners from the governments or from unscrupulous private prison operators or from corrupt local officials, some might be kidnapped from pirate raids, sill others might have just been grabbed off the streets in some slum based on their attractiveness or some wealthy capsuleer's particular order. The syndicate could certainly have good relationships with all the empires or even be controlled by one of them, a network of "legit" public facing clinics, and contacts in the capsuleer medical community. |

Killskull Bonerot
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Posted - 2010.01.10 09:23:00 -
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No wonder those "special container" courier missions pay so well.
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Katsu Masanori
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Posted - 2010.03.17 15:35:00 -
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Very strange. Never knew those ideas that are coming true now about face transplants would give rise to a story like this one.
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Kavin Alavandar
Extropy Dianoetics
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Posted - 2010.04.20 06:15:00 -
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Well.
That's inefficient.
I'd like to introduce New Eden to self-replicating nanorobotics. It may have heard of it. An order of magnitude faster, cheaper, safer and more humane for any possible task, including cosmetic surgery. Just saying. No reason to rip faces off. _______________________________________________ 'The illiterate of this century are not those who cannot read and write; but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn.' |

Dereck Drebin
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Posted - 2010.07.12 14:16:00 -
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Personally, I find it rather odd that a rich and (presumably) somewhat famous non-capsuleer is shelling out money to have her face replaced with that of a political prisoner. Not for the inherent moral implications, but rather the fact that the source of the "new" face is someone who, for whatever reason, is incarcerated for life. What sort of electronic records about both parties involved exist? What would need to be altered to reflect this cosmetic surgery? Could someone who underwent such a "transfer" be mistakenly arrested for the crimes of their "donor"?
Also, a concern specifically related to capsuleers. Although the artificial facial modification is not as much of a problem, I wonder how the issue of cloning will be handled. If a capsuleer were to have their face grafted in this manner, the tissue would not represent their DNA, thus the new face would remain with the old body upon pod breach, or even a clone jump. Therefore, the best option for capsuleers would be artificial modification, by which all clones can be updated, perhaps even at the genetic level.
Even so, this is quite a disturbing story. Perhaps this sort of story mechanic can be incorporated into in-game missions, as in a kill mission where the objective is to destroy an illegally operated prison colony or underground cosmetic facility (or both). Not necessarily for morality's sake, but rather that these facilities are unregistered with the authorities and/or their operation cuts into the profits of the corporation that hires you to destroy them. The applications to Incarna, however, are obvious, so those go without mentioning.
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Adecus Horizon
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Posted - 2010.09.08 12:44:00 -
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Hearing a story like this makes me want eve to march a fleet to save the harmed slaves and destroy the facilities that do those ops. It adds an interesting morality driven side to the game. Brilliant story.
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