Typhado3
Minmatar
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.11.21 01:38:00 -
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This is gonna be really interesting in dominion, Corp spends weeks building up a system to max out it's earning. A few cloakers camp in system with SB, defenders have to sit back and wait till they attack there's nothing they can actively do to help catch them. CCP wanna get rid of AFK empires so you need to actively defend your space, but you can't actively defend your space all you can do is sit there waiting till the AFK cloakers decide to attack. If you can't see how unbalanced this is gonna become in dominion you aren't paying attention or you hate pve'ers and want them to suffer.
 Originally by: CCP Greyscale
Originally by: Typhado3
so how bout giving some tools to help defend so it's not all on the attackers side.
More defensive tools of various natures are things that we're investigating as part of the infrastructure system (but not to the degree that they tip the balance significantly), but the cloaking situation specifically is something that really needs its own fix, IMO (ties into local and directional scanner and probing and map views and all that jazz).
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IMO this isn't a problem with balance this is a problem with CCP failing to implement anything at all to help the defender. Gonna be interesting watching any empire that tries to establish in 0.0 get harrassed to death without anyway to defend themselves but not exactly gonna encourage anyone to actually use any of the new empire building features.
I'm sure someone will say afk cloakers can't hurt you and learn to: align, tank, pvp fit, ecm drones etc. so I'll take a look of a classic carebear ship (hulk) vs a classic afk cloaker ship (stealthbomer)
Each hulk kill is worth 2 stealth bombers so even suicide ganking is worth it, with new squished up systems there's gonna be plenty of targets to make flying those stealthbombers into the middle of enemy space well worth it. Align time of 17 seconds (in b4 stay alligned while mining lol), EHP less than 10k base, 30k max which makes it quite easy to kill before the reinforcements will arive.
I'm sure someone will come back saying you should have shield command ships, logistics, munnins, destroyers, falcons, arazu's and rapiers camping your mining op at all times and its easy for this to make it safe and effective. But then you can even do bombing runs efficiently on solo hulks, let along groups of them which still leaves advantage massively in attackers side. And please don't come back saying hulks should be aligned as bombs will explode before they get to speed and trying to stay perma aligned and at speed in a mining op is beyond a bad joke.
So afk cloakers in system can't hurt me? yet mining while their in system is suicide?
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ccp fix mining agent missions % pls
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