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Zala Brown
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:07:00 -
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I noticed this guy accepts and fails tons courier contracts, losing between 1b and 3b of collateral for each one over last few months . All from different characters in different alliances. Um... so that's interesting....
http://i.imgur.com/AJHZ8.jpg
I dig deeper and look at contracts from some of the other characters he failed the contracts from. MORE OF THE SAME.
http://imgur.com/26j56
http://i.imgur.com/Bmq7Q.jpg
Then I notice other things. Regularly BUYING cheap BPCs for billions of isk.
1b for a prophecy bpc?
http://i.imgur.com/1lz9o.png
2b for a hurricane bpc?
http://i.imgur.com/YhoZe.png
2.5b for a maller bpc?
http://i.imgur.com/LpEFe.png
There are literally DOZENS of contracts like this. A shuttle BPO for 1b? sure why not! What a deal!
http://i.imgur.com/b3yZz.png
Is this guy legitimately doing something that is beyond my understanding? Why not just send isk directly? Is this guy running RMT operation under noses of CCP using failed courier contracts and blueprint contracts to move the isk? Is this a common method? What is a real reason anyone would do something like this? Curious to hear others thoughts.
update: I convoed one of the people that issued one of these courrier contracts, guy seemed friendly at first then immediately leaves convo when I asked about his failed contract.
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Capital Group
DarkCorp Imperium
70
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:08:00 -
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rmt |
Barrak
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
26
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:09:00 -
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I might be wrong, but I think it's something to do with what was called shrink wrapping.
The packages, once canceled, appear back in his hold still wrapped in their contact paper (for want of a better phrase). When you then pack these they become unscannable....
Like I said.... I might be wrong. |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
465
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:09:00 -
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_laundering + http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_farming = answer
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TexasFire
Texas Deep Space
Apocalypse Now.
37
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:11:00 -
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Obvious RMT!
IF there is another explanation, would LOVE to hear it. |
Lord LazyGhost
Kadavr Black Guard
Shadow Cartel
1
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:11:00 -
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Zala Brown wrote:I noticed this guy accepts and fails tons courier contracts, losing between 1b and 3b of collateral for each one over last few months . All from different characters in different alliances. Um... so that's interesting.... http://i.imgur.com/AJHZ8.jpgI dig deeper and look at contracts from some of the other characters he failed the contracts from. MORE OF THE SAME. http://imgur.com/26j56http://i.imgur.com/Bmq7Q.jpgThen I notice other things. Regularly BUYING cheap BPCs for billions of isk. 1b for a prophecy bpc? http://i.imgur.com/1lz9o.png2b for a hurricane bpc? http://i.imgur.com/YhoZe.png2.5b for a maller bpc? http://i.imgur.com/LpEFe.pngThere are literally DOZENS of contracts like this. A shuttle BPO for 1b? sure why not! What a deal! http://i.imgur.com/b3yZz.pngIs this guy legitimately doing something that is beyond my understanding? Why not just send isk directly? Is this guy running RMT operation under noses of CCP using failed courier contracts and blueprint contracts to move the isk? Is this a common method? What is a real reason anyone would do something like this? Curious to hear others thoughts. update: I convoed one of the people that issued one of these courrier contracts, guy seemed friendly at first then immediately leaves convo when I asked about his failed contract.
seems to me like you hit the nail right on the head mate.
seems to me like he is useing this to launder the money around with out makeing it that easy to track. as i would guess ccp watch direct money transfers easyer then multipul different ways of doing so IE selling items and contracts like that mabe woprth a petition to find out 100% :) buddy list the people and watch them drop one after the other one day :) |
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
373
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:11:00 -
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This, I suggest you fill out a petition and bring it too CCP's attention.
EVERYBODY KNOWS |
Alexa Coates
The Scope
Gallente Federation
137
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:12:00 -
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Good job OP, you discovered a money laundering scheme. Now report them ******* and feel good about yourself.
Love my Gallente Federation Navy ships! |
Lord LazyGhost
Kadavr Black Guard
Shadow Cartel
1
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:14:00 -
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or send them a message telling them off the info you have and Bribe them :)
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TexasFire
Texas Deep Space
Apocalypse Now.
37
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:16:00 -
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Alexa Coates wrote:Good job OP, you discovered a money laundering scheme. Now report them ******* and feel good about yourself.
Or dig deeper and lets see a pretty list of names of ISK buyers to play with. |
Zala Brown
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:18:00 -
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TexasFire wrote:Alexa Coates wrote:Good job OP, you discovered a money laundering scheme. Now report them ******* and feel good about yourself. Or dig deeper and lets see a pretty list of names of ISK buyers to play with.
Well if we are understanding this right, the people that issued the contract is the buyer. They set up the courrier with some crap in it for however much they want to buy as the collateral. 1b, 3b, etc. Then this guy accepts the contract and fails it. The issuer/buyer receives the collateral and the deal is done.
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Aramatheia
European Nuthouse
42
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:22:00 -
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reminds me of the days when i used to play wow and you'd see something like 1 piece of wool cloth on the auction house for 200,000 gold... obvious attempt to move gold around without a direct person to person transfer
Underlined and bolded the keyword in that sentence lol |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1770
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:23:00 -
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Zala Brown wrote:Well if we are understanding this right, the people that issued the contract is the buyer. They set up the courrier with some crap in it for however much they want to buy as the collateral. 1b, 3b, etc. Then this guy accepts the contract and fails it. The issuer/buyer receives the collateral and the deal is done.
I can't think of a more likely scenario.
I know how I'd launder money in game if I were ever so inclined. Let's just say it wouldn't leave a significant trail to follow.
It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Torneach
Viziam
Amarr Empire
266
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:33:00 -
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EVE money laundering! |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
914
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:35:00 -
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Lord LazyGhost wrote:or send them a message telling them off the info you have and Bribe them :)
FAIL
Accepting isk from an RMT'er looks just like buying it from them. At the very least that isk will go away, and more likely you'll get flagged as just another RMT buyer and get the royal treatment.
Here's your sign... |
Pandorium9
Pandorium Prime
The CodeX Alliance
14
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:39:00 -
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His name says it all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fence_(criminal)
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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
159
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:40:00 -
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I for one, wonder how you managed to "notice this".....
Looking to stamp out apiphobia in my lifetime..... |
Ghost Xray
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:41:00 -
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I contacted the guy who sold the shuttle bpo "Y U buy iskies from RMTer?" just for the fun of it, but all I got was "oO"  |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
236
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:57:00 -
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Barrak wrote:I might be wrong, but I think it's something to do with what was called shrink wrapping.
The packages, once canceled, appear back in his hold still wrapped in their contact paper (for want of a better phrase). When you then pack these they become unscannable....
Like I said.... I might be wrong.
this is common and I would agree with you for somethings.. like maybe a valuable BP or physical item... but a shuttle? Something is probably up there.
[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
231
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Posted - 2012.06.15 18:59:00 -
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Nice list of RMT and customers, let the bans roll 
brb |
Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
121
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:09:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Added soundtrack.
although my eyes were open
they might have just as well've been closed
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No More Heroes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
648
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:13:00 -
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Money laundering, er isk laundering
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
3452
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:19:00 -
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This is a great example of why RMT is so hard to hide. There's tons of ways to make a single transaction appear legitimate. There are not a lot of ways to make having a constant habit of sending money to random people appear legitimate. |
Trollin
87
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:27:00 -
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you should edit the OP thread title to "RMT contracts revealed" or something more eye catching
Notify: Wallet hit for -2.500.000.000 Wrecking damage by GM [CCP]
You are your own worst enemy. |
Bridgette d'Iberville
DeadStar Marauders
13
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:27:00 -
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Easily the best thread in GD today. With that list, you could potentially do an awful lot of (completly justifiable) damage.
Neut the bastards |
xX Fence Xx
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:29:00 -
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Paranoia willdestroya, guys and girls. Yes, failed contracts were part of a big scheme... of agreements between certain inter-alliance spies. I'm but a part of a chain. Too bad I was discovered - and, I guess, some of my comrades as well. But it's life. It is, well, dark side of EVE, but is noway forbidden by rules. Do you really think I'd take such an obvious name, and run such a lot of easily noticeable deals if I was RMTing? Get real.
Other than that, I live pretty much common life of a capsuleer. I enjoy claim wars with my main, I run missions to cover my ship losses, I build and sell ships, and so forth. Now, do you know why did this topic appear? It's all about competition  Sometimes I get drops of Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link. As I'm not a tackler, I have no use for them - so I sell them via contracts. Sometimes I get two of them per day, sometimes none. Today I've got lucky streak of "Right Hand" + "Damsel", and got 4 of them. And placed it all for sale. Know what? Some jealous dude called "Lord Jita" (who is, obviously, trade char of this topic OP) sends me a message about "crashing zor market". Out of curiosity, I check his own deals in this area. And OMFG - he sells about 50 of them each week! Without buying at least one. And he's still picking on someone selling 1-2 imps daily. Well yes, he might of course buy it elsewhere with other chars... but he can as well just run an ultimate bot farm which farms missions for ages. No living human can play so much manually, to farm about 7 chips every day - their drop chance is rather low. So I'd suggest CCP to check his account and his money flow as well.
Oh, and shuttle? It was a scam. My fault. |
Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
7454
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:44:00 -
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lol
CCP Zulu.....
Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Sturmwolke
237
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Posted - 2012.06.15 20:56:00 -
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Funny thing, he doesnt even need to make some of those contracts public . Personal contract would have worked fine.
No doubt milking the "plausible deniability" line.
Also notice those contracts were accepted with 2-3 mins of issuance - meaning it's a planned set up.
Edit: To note a point on the shuttle as claimed by the xxFencexx character, a 2mins scam?
Very successful scam I must say. |
xX Fence Xx
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:21:00 -
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Sturmwolke wrote:Edit: To note a point on the shuttle as claimed by the xxFencexx character, a 2mins scam?
Very successful scam I must say.
Indeed, we've privately agreed to set up a contract. For BPO. Another BPO, though. Too bad I was too trustful. Won't happen in the future anymore. |
Zala Brown
State War Academy
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:23:00 -
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xX Fence Xx wrote:Sturmwolke wrote:Edit: To note a point on the shuttle as claimed by the xxFencexx character, a 2mins scam?
Very successful scam I must say. Indeed, we've privately agreed to set up a contract. For BPO. Another BPO, though. Too bad I was too trustful. Won't happen in the future anymore.
haha You really expect people to believe that? This thread just took a turn for the hilarious.
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