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mwarp out Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.12.01 19:38:00 - [31] Originally by: Millerchill Why is there never post about: EVE destroyed my life? So the EVE Sever is down for most of the day. I was thinking back on my days playing WOW. I remember when the servers was down people was making hate post about how they could not survive without gameing for almost a hole day!! ^^ And how they have no real life left because WoW made them additive, and they lost there Girlfriends and Jobs. And now Blizz was taking the only thing they had left have away from them (a hole day!!!) by shutting down the server! to upgrade them. Those basteds! (hehe fell the irony) Anyway my point is why is there no: ôI hate EVE! I lost my Job and Girlfriendö Come on someone must have been additive to this great game? Or are EVE players just more mature and can handle bad things in life without escaping into a MMO I could post here as an example, but I am not going to since I canceled all my accounts due to that *got CCP GM / DEV / SCAPE GOAT that refused to make motherships worth training for because noone would ever fit close range high DPS guns on ** because dreads need target painters... So, I do not have a problem no more. Now, I am poasting from a beach. I have to make a call to the police so I do not ruin the day of some inocent little child in the morning. Bye all. Eve was all I had
5pinDizzy Amarr Pillow Fighters Inc	Posted - 2009.12.01 19:45:00 - [32] Originally by: Phrophet Originally by: Leihlah EVE requires greater intellectual fortitude than WoW. The kind of QQ gamers that fill the forums with tripe don't last more than 10 minutes in EVE. This ... tbfh Sorry? Have I been going to the wrong forums these past few years? There are probably loads of players that have had their lives wrecked by eve. But they wont post on the forum about it. 1. Eve community and eve gameplay mantra is everything is always your own fault. So whats the pointing complaining?
Galatea Honore	Posted - 2009.12.01 19:55:00 - [33] Originally by: hall vinal It's not really about IQ. Smarter people are not necessarily more emotionally fit :P I think there is less of a chance to get addicted to EVE because requires longer waiting times than WoW. Many projects takes months to come to fruition. In the time that you're waiting for skills to train up or things to complete you are just bound to go and have more of a life. You can't mindlessly bash monsters for hours. PVE in EVE is much less glamorous than it is in WoW. Your intuition is touching on something I remember from a psychology class. They did an experiment where an animal would get a treat after pulling a lever, but according to a few different patterns: 1. Get a treat after a fixed number of pulls 2. Maybe get a treat, maybe not (random) 3. Get a treat, but only at certain (fixed) times 4. Get a treat, but at variable (random) times #2 produces the highest rate of response - what we would call compulsive behavior - because it's just like a slot machine. It's analogous to running raid after raid, waiting for one drop to come up. And it's especially addictive because the best items in WoW simply can't be bought, whereas most things in EVE can. #1 is second, and that's like grinding for ISK, gold or levels. #3 and #4 produce infrequent responses. #3 is like letting your skills level up. There's a lot more to it, of course. People tend to go on the raid treadmill because there are only a certain number of spots for every activity, which makes group acceptance - social success - hinge on having the best loot. Also, I think the fact that you can lose items and implants leads people to stress less over having the shiniest items.
Allen Ramses Caldari Typo Corp	Posted - 2009.12.01 20:17:00 - [34] Edited by: Allen Ramses on 01/12/2009 20:18:38 Originally by: mwarp out I could post here as an example, but I am not going to since I canceled all my accounts due to that *got CCP GM / DEV / SCAPE GOAT that refused to make motherships worth training for because noone would ever fit close range high DPS guns on because dreads need target painters... I see no scapegoats in CCP, just one lead game designer who has authorized -tons of counterproductive modifications to EVE Online since Empyrean Age. Furthermore, it's not what wasn't done, it's what WAS done. Granted the fault does not lie with him alone, but since he is the lead coordinator, he has a responsibility not to authorize grossly flawed methods of balance. Not only did he authorize them, he advocated them! You can't expect people not to get **ed off about this kind of disregard for appropriate and proper balance. ____________________ CCP: Catering to the cowards of a cold, harsh universe since November, 2006.
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.12.01 20:20:00 - [35] Originally by: Millerchill Why is there never post about: EVE destroyed my life? How do you kill that witch has no life? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Malen Nenokal Gallente	Posted - 2009.12.01 20:24:00 - [36] Edited by: Malen Nenokal on 01/12/2009 20:23:46 Because we're all a bunch of cool dudes with big ****s.
Yerotun	Posted - 2009.12.01 20:29:00 - [37] You see, during a downtime like this, all the true eve addicts are catching up on the past 6 months of only gettin 1 hour of sleep a night. Nubbin.
Locke DieDrake The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.12.01 20:34:00 - [38] Originally by: Galatea Honore Originally by: hall vinal It's not really about IQ. Smarter people are not necessarily more emotionally fit :P I think there is less of a chance to get addicted to EVE because requires longer waiting times than WoW. Many projects takes months to come to fruition. In the time that you're waiting for skills to train up or things to complete you are just bound to go and have more of a life. You can't mindlessly bash monsters for hours. PVE in EVE is much less glamorous than it is in WoW. Your intuition is touching on something I remember from a psychology class. They did an experiment where an animal would get a treat after pulling a lever, but according to a few different patterns: 1. Get a treat after a fixed number of pulls 2. Maybe get a treat, maybe not (random) 3. Get a treat, but only at certain (fixed) times 4. Get a treat, but at variable (random) times #2 produces the highest rate of response - what we would call compulsive behavior - because it's just like a slot machine. It's analogous to running raid after raid, waiting for one drop to come up. And it's especially addictive because the best items in WoW simply can't be bought, whereas most things in EVE can. #1 is second, and that's like grinding for ISK, gold or levels. #3 and #4 produce infrequent responses. #3 is like letting your skills level up. There's a lot more to it, of course. People tend to go on the raid treadmill because there are only a certain number of spots for every activity, which makes group acceptance - social success - hinge on having the best loot. Also, I think the fact that you can lose items and implants leads people to stress less over having the shiniest items. Unlike WOW, in EVE the only people that stress over uber loot are the empire carebears. Even then, they tend to keep their faction fitted rattlesnakes in station due to fear. No one in active PVP is running a full faction fit. It costs too much for the bonus you get from it. You will see faction mods once in a while on a kill mail, but almost always from someone that got surprised, rather than someone that chose to engage. Like the faction fitted legion that tried to gank a friendly freighter recently in low sec. I'm pretty sure he didn't expect us to hot drop a fleet on his ass. ______________________________________________ Goon FC(08/12/06):"its a trap" "that thing is fully operational"
Omal Oma Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.12.01 20:36:00 - [39] We were losers before we started playing, EVE enhanced our lives. Hi
Salpad Carebears with Attitude	Posted - 2009.12.01 20:39:00 - [40] Originally by: Schwarzbier Could also be that skilling up does not = time actually at the computer. "Say, I've got 15 days till Recon 5 is done, why not spend some time with the family?" Yes. There's much less grind in EVE Online, compared to MMORPGs such as WoW. -- Salpad C.E.O., Carebears with Attitude
hall vinal	Posted - 2009.12.01 20:57:00 - [41] Edited by: hall vinal on 01/12/2009 20:59:57 Originally by: Galatea Honore Originally by: hall vinal It's not really about IQ. Smarter people are not necessarily more emotionally fit :P I think there is less of a chance to get addicted to EVE because requires longer waiting times than WoW. Many projects takes months to come to fruition. In the time that you're waiting for skills to train up or things to complete you are just bound to go and have more of a life. You can't mindlessly bash monsters for hours. PVE in EVE is much less glamorous than it is in WoW. Your intuition is touching on something I remember from a psychology class. They did an experiment where an animal would get a treat after pulling a lever, but according to a few different patterns: I am just judging by my own behavioral patterns and by my observations of behavior of other players. I have observed that it is usually the players who are involved in EVE's equivalent to WoW raiding who display the most signs of addiction, such as winding up their alarm clock to some ungodly times to wake up in morning to raid some POSes, spending hundreds and even thousands of dollars purchasing virtual currency to replenish ships and towers for their corporation, dedicating a lot of time to posting threads in their internal alliance forum as well as defending their alliance on CAOD or trolling those other alliances. It is people who participate in small gang and large gang warfare in EVE which is similar to raiding in WoW that start displaying these kinds of signs that point to them being addicted. With my own behavior, I have noticed that I have no trouble logging off if all I was doing was some trading, missions, solo pvp. But the moment I get into small gang warfare again I find it difficult to tell myself "stop" when it is already 12am on the clock and I have to get up early for work tomorrow. WoW gaming though centers a lot around raiding. I have never played WOW but I heard that in end game you cannot avoid it. In EVE in comparison you can happily log in for a couple of hours, do a few level 4 missions solo, gank a passerby hauler or two, flip some buy/sell orders, and refuel your POS and log off. The end game of EVE does not demand the kind of play style that WoW gaming demands, and because of this I feel that there is a lesser risk of running into a major addiction with EVE. CCP though does not care much about this because we all still keep paying them for skill training
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies	Posted - 2009.12.01 22:44:00 - [42] Seen a fair few in alliance leadership that crashed and burned due to addiction, most recovered, but not all. Aside from them, only others I've seen heavily at risk are FC's. Can't recall any 'Eve destroyed my life posts here though'.

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