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Taranius De Consolville
The Mockers of Krondor
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:21:00 -
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So, ive spent the last week trying to figure out this statement by CCP
"We don't interfere in EvE Because its is a player driven PVP game"
Right, taken that information in and assessed it, result, you what?
You say that EvE is PvP driven, i fail to see that.
Wether or not people admit it, the majority of ships and ammo are produced by EMPIRE based corporations selling at market hubs. Then hulkageddon comes in, the corps stop mining, thousands quit (which they have) and the prices of everything sky rockets. PvP in null drops off to the point where Null Sec generally is dead and empty apart from hubs where alliance members congagrate like puppies around its mother.
However, there is a massive rise in ganking in empire, the question is why? The answer is simple, guarenteed kill on the KB, concord kills you, that doesnt show up on the killboards and you get 100mil+ of loot from haulers. So why risk your ass in null when you can do it easily in empire? You wouldnt. But the penalty for this action is tiny. So there is no *risk vs reward* factor involved.
So you have mining, npc faction missions, epic arc missions, ded sites, anomolys, scannable sites, pve to the max, my question is this
This is a not a PVP DRIVEN game, it is an all round game and right now we have half the player base trying to make the rest of the playerbase (the pve pilots) play as they do i.e *mummy he wont play with me, make him play with me*.
So why do u maintain the fiction that it is? Why do you not PROTECT PAYING CUSTOMERS who have no interest in PvP as a whole and just like to make ISK and have fun THERE WAY.
Why? If you want it to be a PVP game, set 3 systems in each empire as safe zones and make the rest null sec. Force people to join alliances and to PvP, the answer is you can't because if everyone on this server was fighting non stop, your server would fail misrably. Why do you not protect the players who want to play a game they pay for there way?
No doubt this will get trolled by every forum idiot but the point is valid
If you want a PvP game, remove the PvE content, revamp the game and make it pure PVP, stop screwing people over, take there money and laugh when they get ganked for no reason at all other than they have a cov ops in there hauler there moving to there new home.
PvP pilots need to sod off back to null sec and leave empire pilots alone to there own business.
Period. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1233
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:23:00 -
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lmao |
baltec1
1466
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:23:00 -
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Every activity in eve involves PVP. CCP is 100% correct while much of what you put is just flat out wrong. |
Harold Tuphlos
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
58
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:24:00 -
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OP doesn't understand pvp. please ignore. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1380
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:24:00 -
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Wow,a refreshing take on an entirely new topic. |
Korg Leaf
Operation Cloverfield The Shadowbolts Collective
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:24:00 -
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WoW... Go back to it. |
Taranius De Consolville
The Mockers of Krondor
8
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:24:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Every activity in eve involves PVP. CCP is 100% correct while much of what you put is just flat out wrong.
first off post with your main
second off, no its not, its perfectly legit and 100% fact, ur just another moron pvp pilot who wants to kill everyone even when dont want to fight you
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Taranius De Consolville
The Mockers of Krondor
8
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:25:00 -
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Korg Leaf wrote:WoW... Go back to it.
crap troll mate. Try again
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Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
93
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:26:00 -
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ninja-whine about suicide ganking it seems to me.
I do agree though, high-sec needs to be nerfed: too much "risk-free" PVE content in it. |
Ituhata Saken
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
288
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:26:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:baltec1 wrote:Every activity in eve involves PVP. CCP is 100% correct while much of what you put is just flat out wrong. first off post with your main second off, no its not, its perfectly legit and 100% fact, ur just another moron pvp pilot who wants to kill everyone even when dont want to fight you
Overlooking that market competition is in fact, player versus player. Controlling the market affects pvp players, therefore pvp players have a right to affect you. You know what an answer is? It's a terminus -- an end. Answers are fine, but questions are where it's at. Questions bring us closer to understanding, -áthey can start a conversation or spark a revolution. So you might as well start asking... now.-á ~See you on the other side 6/6/12~ |
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Luis Graca
56
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:27:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:So, ive spent the last week trying to figure out this statement by CCP
"We don't interfere in EvE Because its is a player driven PVP game"
Right, taken that information in and assessed it, result, you what?
You say that EvE is PvP driven, i fail to see that.
True you failed
But you're biggest fail has believing int that statement and then write a tread about that
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baltec1
1466
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:27:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:baltec1 wrote:Every activity in eve involves PVP. CCP is 100% correct while much of what you put is just flat out wrong. first off post with your main second off, no its not, its perfectly legit and 100% fact, ur just another moron pvp pilot who wants to kill everyone even when dont want to fight you
I am my main.
I am also an industrialist. |
Lucie Lipps
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:28:00 -
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I know who I am killing next :)
hahhahahahahaha TARD |
Hestia Mar
Calmaretto
8
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:30:00 -
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Harold Tuphlos wrote:OP doesn't understand pvp. please ignore.
In before Tippia? Damn!
OP doesn't understand the retards who don't care about killing EvE - the ones who should go play BSG Online for their instant PVP gratification |
Korg Leaf
Operation Cloverfield The Shadowbolts Collective
22
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:31:00 -
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CCP are indeed correct when they say the game is 100% PvP. PvP doesn't have to be just fighting and exploding ships. You are PvPing when you sell items on the market as you are trying to undercut the other people selling items. Therefore your argument is invalid. |
Widow Cain
30
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:33:00 -
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What OP fails to grasp is that miner "A" is competing with miner "B" for the best share of the ore market.
The essence of supply and demand is competition and competition is the essence of player versus player.
This is why I hate PLEX so much, because for people competing in the industrial game of getting rich, buying PLEX and selling it for isk is pay 2 win.
OMG You are sooo pixel macho... |
Patrick Estemaire
Black Candle Labs
19
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:34:00 -
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EVE does have a 'safe zone', it's the inside of a station. |
baltec1
1466
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:35:00 -
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Patrick Estemaire wrote:EVE does have a 'safe zone', it's the inside of a station.
Even in a station you can be scammed. |
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
361
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:36:00 -
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1/10 Nothing Found |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
613
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:37:00 -
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Wait, what ?
Sorry OP, but you have it very wrong. I'm not PVP oriented, that does not mean I wish it gone - not anywhere.
Do you realise that a game, any MMO manufacture, combat and destruction game, without PVP, would quickly stagnate into nothingness ?
Once you have made everything, bought everything, what's going to happen to anything on the markets ? Who is going to buy anything ? For what reason ? No PVP = no circle of life and death. This games demands PVP to be as successful as it is and more importantly, long-lived.
Some areas in the game are slightly "safer" than others, but this does not mean you are not going to get pounced on sooner or later.
No PVP in Eve ?? I'd leave instantly. It would be utterly pointless to play any game which has no circle of life.
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
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Patrick Estemaire
Black Candle Labs
20
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:37:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Patrick Estemaire wrote:EVE does have a 'safe zone', it's the inside of a station. Even in a station you can be scammed.
Bummer for you OP, looks like nowhere is safe. I hear Facebook offers some games.
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Korg Leaf
Operation Cloverfield The Shadowbolts Collective
23
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:59:00 -
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Whilst reading this I couldn't help but think that the OP was the fastest sperm... |
Aramatheia
European Nuthouse
42
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Posted - 2012.06.17 19:03:00 -
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i'm not a fanboy of highsec gankers, i've lost a mining ship to them. However i didnt complain about it. i've known since before i even created my trial that people will be real dogs in eve because they can. Thats just how it goes. I'm still probably pretty far on the soft side of the scale. But i know how to eat a loss when it rolls along. Losing the ship is only a miniscule fraction of the challenge. The real challenge is how you get up, dust yourself and get on with it
You can accept the loss and carry on, or maybe alter your direction, stop mining/industrial and move to pvp or find a corp that hides in wormholes or whatever.
I will never accept a perfect safe zone, one day i'll probably end up in null. Honestly i'd like to see thousand ship fleets do battle before i stop playing.
PS are scimitar's in demand much in big fleet battles or are pvp fleets mostly armor? (i can train into the armor version simply enough all i need is a little skilling in armor modules and the faction cruiser 5!) |
Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
148
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Posted - 2012.06.17 19:07:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:baltec1 wrote:Every activity in eve involves PVP. CCP is 100% correct while much of what you put is just flat out wrong. first off post with your main
Bahahahaha hahaha...
... hahahahahahahahah ha |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4076
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Posted - 2012.06.17 19:10:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:So, ive spent the last week trying to figure out this statement by CCP
"We don't interfere in EvE Because its is a player driven PVP game"
Right, taken that information in and assessed it, result, you what?
You say that EvE is PvP driven, i fail to see that.
Wether or not people admit it, the majority of ships and ammo are produced by EMPIRE based corporations selling at market hubs. Then hulkageddon comes in, the corps stop mining, thousands quit (which they have) and the prices of everything sky rockets. PvP in null drops off to the point where Null Sec generally is dead and empty apart from hubs where alliance members congagrate like puppies around its mother.
However, there is a massive rise in ganking in empire, the question is why? The answer is simple, guarenteed kill on the KB, concord kills you, that doesnt show up on the killboards and you get 100mil+ of loot from haulers. So why risk your ass in null when you can do it easily in empire? You wouldnt. But the penalty for this action is tiny. So there is no *risk vs reward* factor involved.
So you have mining, npc faction missions, epic arc missions, ded sites, anomolys, scannable sites, pve to the max, my question is this
This is a not a PVP DRIVEN game, it is an all round game and right now we have half the player base trying to make the rest of the playerbase (the pve pilots) play as they do i.e *mummy he wont play with me, make him play with me*.
So why do u maintain the fiction that it is? Why do you not PROTECT PAYING CUSTOMERS who have no interest in PvP as a whole and just like to make ISK and have fun THERE WAY.
Why? If you want it to be a PVP game, set 3 systems in each empire as safe zones and make the rest null sec. Force people to join alliances and to PvP, the answer is you can't because if everyone on this server was fighting non stop, your server would fail misrably. Why do you not protect the players who want to play a game they pay for there way?
No doubt this will get trolled by every forum idiot but the point is valid
If you want a PvP game, remove the PvE content, revamp the game and make it pure PVP, stop screwing people over, take there money and laugh when they get ganked for no reason at all other than they have a cov ops in there hauler there moving to there new home.
PvP pilots need to sod off back to null sec and leave empire pilots alone to there own business.
Period.
Congratulations on walking into that wall more persistently and with more style than I've ever seen before.
No, really: you deserve a prize.
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1076
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Posted - 2012.06.17 19:11:00 -
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Stating that your point is valid doesn't make it valid, just saying. "Eve isnGÇÖt some welcoming online utopia: itGÇÖs cut-throat, cruel, atavistic despite the futuristic setting. Give people a sandbox, and theyGÇÖll throw the sand in a rivalGÇÖs eyes before kicking them in the shins and destroying their sandcastle." -Keza MacDonald, IGN. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1381
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Posted - 2012.06.17 19:17:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:baltec1 wrote:Every activity in eve involves PVP. CCP is 100% correct while much of what you put is just flat out wrong. first off post with your main You owe me a soda and new keyboard. Thanx. |
killorbekilled TBE
Dare Bears
101
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Posted - 2012.06.17 19:18:00 -
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This is eve everyone vs everyone.
huh? |
Kimmi Chan
Illuminatus Reforged The Revenant Order
108
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Posted - 2012.06.17 19:18:00 -
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I have to assume that the OP is new to New Eden. Welcome to EvE sir. I hope you enjoy your day.
If you don't mind I would like to ask you a couple of questions about why you decided to try this game.
What is because of something like this?
Or was it something more like this?
Just curious. -á"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
489
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Posted - 2012.06.17 19:45:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Congratulations on walking into that wall more persistently and with more style than I've ever seen before.
No, really: you deserve a prize.
Special Prize for a "Special Person!"
I really can't decide if threads like these are serious or if the OP really is that monumentally THICK... I haven't even bothered looking up his corp history, or his killboard history - it's just really hard for me to get this degree of stupid concentrated into one post, without it actually being a deliberate troll.
Do you guys/gals really think this isn't a troll?
You know there's something fundamentally wrong when the only way people can think of to promote the "best" part of the game is to make everything else suck more. |
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