So, ive spent the last week trying to figure out this statement by CCP

"We don't interfere in EvE Because its is a player driven PVP game"

Right, taken that information in and assessed it, result, you what?

You say that EvE is PvP driven, i fail

"Player versus Player".

I put something on the market and compete with other PLAYERS for the one guy who buys it.
I sit in a belt and mine and compete with other people on the belt for the biggest roids. (i don't mine lol)
I explore things in lowsec, probe sites, try to run them and compete with others for the same site.

That's PvP. That's Everyone vs. Everyone in it's glory.
What the random guy up there is referring to is plainly *combat PvP*,
ignoring the whole 90% other things in the game which also are Player vs Player.


That's enough already to ignore all the rest of random guy's post.


Edit:
It's kind of interesting (and sad) that people use PvP as a single word, ignoring it's actual meaning
and reducing it to what they think it means to them.

I too have to be honest. I would like low sec brought up to the point that when you leave the training grounds, the game is on.
Look at it practically, look at how much excess server capacity you would have with concord only in the training systems.

Not true. You can go through many MMOs without ever having to interact with other people. Like a single player game with a chat room added.

Is CONCORD that server intensive?

So, ive spent the last week trying to figure out this statement by CCP

"We don't interfere in EvE Because its is a player driven PVP game"

Right, taken that information in and assessed it, result, you what?

You say that EvE is PvP driven, i fail to see that.

-SNIP-

PvP pilots need to sod off back to null sec and leave empire pilots alone to there own business.

Period.

I dunno if Inferno fixed it when they redid the aggro system, but according to devs the ancient Crimewatch system is like a millstone around the necks of low/hi large-scale fleet warfare. Then again Burn Jita went well, so...

OP knew coming in that this was a primarily pvp oriented game.

I have trouble believing anyone who comes to this game doesn't already know that. So why is it so hard to accept the losses, IF YOU ALREADY KNEW IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN?

lmao

This argument is so old. I used to play Jumpgate by red devil, a space twitch based Sandbox back in 2000 before Eve. I say even more sandbox than eve as realtime joystick skills were required and not some facet of clicking.

OP knew coming in that this was a primarily pvp oriented game.

I have trouble believing anyone who comes to this game doesn't already know that. So why is it so hard to accept the losses, IF YOU ALREADY KNEW IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN?

Stuff

The context I meant was JG had everything EVE does with supply and demand market and PVP, PLUS real SKILL was needed my 'true sandbox' comment was meant in that regard. YOU are the skilled person that impacts combat et al it's not how long you clicked 'add to queue' in your skill learning list which Eve is.

So, ive spent the last week trying to figure out this statement by CCP

"We don't interfere in EvE Because its is a player driven PVP game"

Right, taken that information in and assessed it, result, you what?

You say that EvE is PvP driven, i fail to see that.

Wether or not people admit it, the majority of ships and ammo are produced by EMPIRE based corporations selling at market hubs. Then hulkageddon comes in, the corps stop mining, thousands quit (which they have) and the prices of everything sky rockets. PvP in null drops off to the point where Null Sec generally is dead and empty apart from hubs where alliance members congagrate like puppies around its mother.

However, there is a massive rise in ganking in empire, the question is why? The answer is simple, guarenteed kill on the KB, concord kills you, that doesnt show up on the killboards and you get 100mil+ of loot from haulers. So why risk your ass in null when you can do it easily in empire? You wouldnt. But the penalty for this action is tiny. So there is no *risk vs reward* factor involved.

So you have mining, npc faction missions, epic arc missions, ded sites, anomolys, scannable sites, pve to the max, my question is this

This is a not a PVP DRIVEN game, it is an all round game and right now we have half the player base trying to make the rest of the playerbase (the pve pilots) play as they do i.e *mummy he wont play with me, make him play with me*.

So why do u maintain the fiction that it is? Why do you not PROTECT PAYING CUSTOMERS who have no interest in PvP as a whole and just like to make ISK and have fun THERE WAY.

Why? If you want it to be a PVP game, set 3 systems in each empire as safe zones and make the rest null sec. Force people to join alliances and to PvP, the answer is you can't because if everyone on this server was fighting non stop, your server would fail misrably. Why do you not protect the players who want to play a game they pay for there way?

No doubt this will get trolled by every forum idiot but the point is valid

If you want a PvP game, remove the PvE content, revamp the game and make it pure PVP, stop screwing people over, take there money and laugh when they get ganked for no reason at all other than they have a cov ops in there hauler there moving to there new home.

PvP pilots need to sod off back to null sec and leave empire pilots alone to there own business.

Period.

I hate to flame other people but here i go.