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Skyraker7
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Posted - 2004.11.14 15:09:00 -
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Ok boys. wake up. GMs did NOT tell ASS to move away. Thank you for reading and understanding that sentence. yeah, you can read it again, it might help, GMs did NOT tell ASS to move away.
They politely asked us to desist, no threats, they just had a quiet word.
Regards
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Skyraker7
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Posted - 2004.11.14 15:09:00 -
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Quote:
Ok boys. wake up. GMs did NOT tell ASS to move away. Thank you for reading and understanding that sentence. yeah, you can read it again, it might help, GMs did NOT tell ASS to move away.
They politely asked us to desist, no threats, they just had a quiet word.
Regards
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.11.14 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Falhofnir
Looks like i lied to escape nafri's mindless comments.
I agree with you sally, pvp is broken a lot.
Once again, not all lorth points are valid, and i ain't saying .4- camps shouldn't exist.
There's just too much of it around around forums these days, i can't refrain from expressing my point of view about it anymore.
Which i'll probably stop doing now, because posting in c&p seems even more useless now than it used to be back in the days.
sorry, but do i complain when our HQ gets camped for a full week by a 300+ player corp?
nah i dont think so
and yeah posting here is useless, i stopped posting useful comments here a long long time ago, nobody reads them
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.11.14 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Falhofnir
Looks like i lied to escape nafri's mindless comments.
I agree with you sally, pvp is broken a lot.
Once again, not all lorth points are valid, and i ain't saying .4- camps shouldn't exist.
There's just too much of it around around forums these days, i can't refrain from expressing my point of view about it anymore.
Which i'll probably stop doing now, because posting in c&p seems even more useless now than it used to be back in the days.
sorry, but do i complain when our HQ gets camped for a full week by a 300+ player corp?
nah i dont think so
and yeah posting here is useless, i stopped posting useful comments here a long long time ago, nobody reads them
Wanna fly with me?
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Karistis
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Posted - 2004.11.14 16:07:00 -
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I find that the anti-pirates use more lame tactics than the pirates do. There's nothing like jumping into a system that says it has no pilots in space, only to find a 25BS blockade that takes 30secs to get a cruiser and then brags about it even if they don't get the pod. I charged a blockade once. Was 2 BB and ceptor vs my caracal. I was in 0.0 JQA space. Funny how they got totally and utterly owned despite their target and warp jamming. All 3 of them lost their ships that day. I didn't log out at a safespot or anything either, but I very well could have. Shows how much uber skillz u "anti-pirates" got lol.
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Karistis
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Posted - 2004.11.14 16:07:00 -
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I find that the anti-pirates use more lame tactics than the pirates do. There's nothing like jumping into a system that says it has no pilots in space, only to find a 25BS blockade that takes 30secs to get a cruiser and then brags about it even if they don't get the pod. I charged a blockade once. Was 2 BB and ceptor vs my caracal. I was in 0.0 JQA space. Funny how they got totally and utterly owned despite their target and warp jamming. All 3 of them lost their ships that day. I didn't log out at a safespot or anything either, but I very well could have. Shows how much uber skillz u "anti-pirates" got lol.
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2005.01.17 22:04:22 combat Chackle [PUSY] perfectly runs from you, wrecking for 1500 cowardice. |
Annu
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Posted - 2004.11.14 16:11:00 -
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Hello
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Annu
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Posted - 2004.11.14 16:11:00 -
[188]
Hello
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Sangxianc
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Posted - 2004.11.14 16:26:00 -
[189]
Wolf Derainger I love you.
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Any man's death diminishes me, as I am involved in mankinde; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
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Sangxianc
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Posted - 2004.11.14 16:26:00 -
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Wolf Derainger I love you.
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Any man's death diminishes me, as I am involved in mankinde; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
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Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.11.14 17:04:00 -
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Well..
I know a very cool game where PVP is impossible and you can chop in the stone quarry or mine some iron ore all day long with the single biggest risk being that someone else mines your deposit....not to worry though as they respawn minutes later. You will never ever have to worry about being killed...EVER!
Sounds great no? The game is called Horizons and if you hurry up you might be able to play it for a bit before it dies...
As for the subscriberbase leaving...
Uhm maybe CCP should blaim that phenomenon, which is now long since OVER, on the REAL reasons why people leave...tons of bugs, BORING gameplay, borked gfx...uhm but no that prolly has NOTHING to do with people leaving. Im sure its ALL because they were ganked, yah ok...
Maybe we should just have two servers. Carebearland and Pirateland and make it a non pvp and a pvp server. then we dont need to bother with the MORE THEN REDICULOUS security rating issues blocking people out of half the game.
So you dont think ganking is PVP... What is PVP then? Is it not ganking if you machienegun a bunch of soldiers to jelly with your Panzertank in a 1st person shooter? Is it not PVP if you snipe a soldier right between the eyes from some unseen location in any shooter game? Is it not PVP when you destroy the nme's supply lines in any RTS game?
Is anything which in your very own opinion does not constitute 'fair fighting' actually PVP? I mean. To me it seems like its close to impossible to win any fight in your version of PVP. And in EVE specifically it is already impossible to lose any fights since you never really lose anything except maybe some ego...
EVE has, if you can even call it a PVP game anymore, probably the least hard core type PVP EVER. Its so fluffy it almost gives me an astma attack. Seriously, people who cannot stand gatecamps or being killed in general are much better off moving to a PVE game. Either that or CCP have to finally decide wtf they want and squish PVP, carebears or just make two servers. This jibbering about PVP and wether or not its fair play or if its PVP or not or blahblah is getting old very fast imho.
Originally by: cashman
It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.11.14 17:04:00 -
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Well..
I know a very cool game where PVP is impossible and you can chop in the stone quarry or mine some iron ore all day long with the single biggest risk being that someone else mines your deposit....not to worry though as they respawn minutes later. You will never ever have to worry about being killed...EVER!
Sounds great no? The game is called Horizons and if you hurry up you might be able to play it for a bit before it dies...
As for the subscriberbase leaving...
Uhm maybe CCP should blaim that phenomenon, which is now long since OVER, on the REAL reasons why people leave...tons of bugs, BORING gameplay, borked gfx...uhm but no that prolly has NOTHING to do with people leaving. Im sure its ALL because they were ganked, yah ok...
Maybe we should just have two servers. Carebearland and Pirateland and make it a non pvp and a pvp server. then we dont need to bother with the MORE THEN REDICULOUS security rating issues blocking people out of half the game.
So you dont think ganking is PVP... What is PVP then? Is it not ganking if you machienegun a bunch of soldiers to jelly with your Panzertank in a 1st person shooter? Is it not PVP if you snipe a soldier right between the eyes from some unseen location in any shooter game? Is it not PVP when you destroy the nme's supply lines in any RTS game?
Is anything which in your very own opinion does not constitute 'fair fighting' actually PVP? I mean. To me it seems like its close to impossible to win any fight in your version of PVP. And in EVE specifically it is already impossible to lose any fights since you never really lose anything except maybe some ego...
EVE has, if you can even call it a PVP game anymore, probably the least hard core type PVP EVER. Its so fluffy it almost gives me an astma attack. Seriously, people who cannot stand gatecamps or being killed in general are much better off moving to a PVE game. Either that or CCP have to finally decide wtf they want and squish PVP, carebears or just make two servers. This jibbering about PVP and wether or not its fair play or if its PVP or not or blahblah is getting old very fast imho.
Originally by: cashman
It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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will9anthony
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Posted - 2004.11.14 17:31:00 -
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hey book, LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA 
boy i just waisted so much bandwith.... oh wait thats right i pay my monthly fee just like everyone else, and these forums are part of that... so kiss my ass
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will9anthony
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Posted - 2004.11.14 17:31:00 -
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hey book, LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA
boy i just waisted so much bandwith.... oh wait thats right i pay my monthly fee just like everyone else, and these forums are part of that... so kiss my ass
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Falhofnir
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Posted - 2004.11.14 19:58:00 -
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skyraker, you're either a liar, or you've been lied to, or there's another reason i can think of which would really disappoint me, but sorry, no.
best indicator of my point being valid is the lack of answers/flames by your corpmates considering what i've been saying in those two threads starring armoured assassins over the past two days.
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Falhofnir
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Posted - 2004.11.14 19:58:00 -
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skyraker, you're either a liar, or you've been lied to, or there's another reason i can think of which would really disappoint me, but sorry, no.
best indicator of my point being valid is the lack of answers/flames by your corpmates considering what i've been saying in those two threads starring armoured assassins over the past two days.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.11.14 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Falhofnir
skyraker, you're either a liar, or you've been lied to, or there's another reason i can think of which would really disappoint me, but sorry, no.
best indicator of my point being valid is the lack of answers/flames by your corpmates considering what i've been saying in those two threads starring armoured assassins over the past two days.
how are you so smart baby?
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.11.14 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Falhofnir
skyraker, you're either a liar, or you've been lied to, or there's another reason i can think of which would really disappoint me, but sorry, no.
best indicator of my point being valid is the lack of answers/flames by your corpmates considering what i've been saying in those two threads starring armoured assassins over the past two days.
how are you so smart baby?
Wanna fly with me?
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Falhofnir
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Posted - 2004.11.14 20:08:00 -
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i'm just a smart ass, don't blame me :(
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Falhofnir
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Posted - 2004.11.14 20:08:00 -
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i'm just a smart ass, don't blame me :(
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awk
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Posted - 2004.11.14 20:27:00 -
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Alright I'm getting pretty fed up with ASS telling everyone they were asked to leave because they're so uber, and people actually believing that nonsense! The reason they were asked to leave is because they were exploiting a bug in the sentry guns. If you've ever petitioned a pirate blockade before you'll know that the GMs don't want to hear it, they are perfectly OK with any size fleet tanking the sentries, as long as they are not exploiting anything.
I'll say it again, they were NOT told to leave because they were tanking sentries, because of how many ships they killed, or for which system they were in. For obvious reasons I will not go into detail about the exploit, but it is quite serious and had much to do with their success. |
awk
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Posted - 2004.11.14 20:27:00 -
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Alright I'm getting pretty fed up with ASS telling everyone they were asked to leave because they're so uber, and people actually believing that nonsense! The reason they were asked to leave is because they were exploiting a bug in the sentry guns. If you've ever petitioned a pirate blockade before you'll know that the GMs don't want to hear it, they are perfectly OK with any size fleet tanking the sentries, as long as they are not exploiting anything.
I'll say it again, they were NOT told to leave because they were tanking sentries, because of how many ships they killed, or for which system they were in. For obvious reasons I will not go into detail about the exploit, but it is quite serious and had much to do with their success. |
Reebo77
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Posted - 2004.11.14 20:31:00 -
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Yawn! These threads just make me want to kill more carebears.
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Reebo77
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Posted - 2004.11.14 20:31:00 -
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Yawn! These threads just make me want to kill more carebears.
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Sangxianc
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Posted - 2004.11.14 21:44:00 -
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Edited by: Sangxianc on 14/11/2004 21:47:45
Edited by: Sangxianc on 14/11/2004 21:47:15
So, they were told to leave because they were exploiting an uber l337 bug of greatness which made them powerful beyond all comprehension which for some inexplicable reason you're not allowed to tell us?
Eh...
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Any man's death diminishes me, as I am involved in mankinde; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee. |
Sangxianc
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Posted - 2004.11.14 21:44:00 -
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Edited by: Sangxianc on 14/11/2004 21:47:45
Edited by: Sangxianc on 14/11/2004 21:47:15
So, they were told to leave because they were exploiting an uber l337 bug of greatness which made them powerful beyond all comprehension which for some inexplicable reason you're not allowed to tell us?
Eh...
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Any man's death diminishes me, as I am involved in mankinde; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee. |
Falhofnir
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Posted - 2004.11.14 22:17:00 -
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out of pure philantropism, i'll direct you to the forum rules webpage link on the left of your screen.
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Falhofnir
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Posted - 2004.11.14 22:17:00 -
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out of pure philantropism, i'll direct you to the forum rules webpage link on the left of your screen.
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2004.11.14 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth
My enitire argument is that if CCP coninually nerfs gate camps in empire then it should be obvious that they are being conducted in a manner in which they did not intend. And if we continue to see such camps then we will continue to see more nerfs. And the these nerfs have a negative effect on the entire population of eve and especially whats left of what I would call ligitement pirats.
I want a PVP game, this is why I bought it and why I coninue the pay every mounth. My concern is that more nerfs lead to more and more ways to avoid PVP. And it is allready to easy right now. And I feel the root cause of the majoirty of the nerfs, and perhaps some of the hesitancy of CCP to fix certain things, is the gank squads that are far too common.
The gank squads are common because thats the only way that pirating can be done. If you try solo pirating miners/NPCers, one third the people will have 4 WCS and be impossible to hold, one third will turn on a tank and log, and one third will be morons and let you kill them and curse about it.
It is next to impossible to pirate alone because of WCS and logoffs. 2-4 people splitting tolls and mining loot means that you'd be lucky to cover ammo costs, so you cant really pirate in belts and make much money. The only real place you can pirate and actually get positive isk flow is at gates, and you need at least 7 or 8 people to properly camp a gate.
The problem is that there are no reasonable alternatives to gatecamps for pirates in empire. Yeah, you can hunt in belts and accumulate an impressive collection of killmails (and hatemails), but the only real place to make isk is killing everything in sight at a well-traveled .4 gate. Don't blame the gankers for taking the only available option to them.
Originally by: Sochin
CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2004.11.14 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth
My enitire argument is that if CCP coninually nerfs gate camps in empire then it should be obvious that they are being conducted in a manner in which they did not intend. And if we continue to see such camps then we will continue to see more nerfs. And the these nerfs have a negative effect on the entire population of eve and especially whats left of what I would call ligitement pirats.
I want a PVP game, this is why I bought it and why I coninue the pay every mounth. My concern is that more nerfs lead to more and more ways to avoid PVP. And it is allready to easy right now. And I feel the root cause of the majoirty of the nerfs, and perhaps some of the hesitancy of CCP to fix certain things, is the gank squads that are far too common.
The gank squads are common because thats the only way that pirating can be done. If you try solo pirating miners/NPCers, one third the people will have 4 WCS and be impossible to hold, one third will turn on a tank and log, and one third will be morons and let you kill them and curse about it.
It is next to impossible to pirate alone because of WCS and logoffs. 2-4 people splitting tolls and mining loot means that you'd be lucky to cover ammo costs, so you cant really pirate in belts and make much money. The only real place you can pirate and actually get positive isk flow is at gates, and you need at least 7 or 8 people to properly camp a gate.
The problem is that there are no reasonable alternatives to gatecamps for pirates in empire. Yeah, you can hunt in belts and accumulate an impressive collection of killmails (and hatemails), but the only real place to make isk is killing everything in sight at a well-traveled .4 gate. Don't blame the gankers for taking the only available option to them.
Originally by: Sochin
CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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