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Mr Xanatos	Posted - 2009.12.11 15:13:00 - [31] Originally by: Sharbat Edited by: Sharbat on 11/12/2009 15:03:13 Hello Moro, since we aren't even aware of stalking you, we took a look into the situation. So let us clarify some things: Your initial corp (Unscripted) attacked one of our friends. We declare war on Unscripted to help our mates (so this war was unrelated to you as a person). After the wardec, you open a chat and smacktalk a whole lot on how you will destroy our two corps. After this little chat you quit Unscripted and leave the rest of the corp to die. As a result of your smacking, you earned yourself a wardec on a personal basis on the new corp (what your reap is what you sow - also have a look at the nice ccp trailer which explains to you in detail how your actions influence this game). And here we are now with you claiming we were wardeccing you all along on an alt we arent even aware of as well as positioning yourself as the innocent person that gets griefed out of the game by us. Also there were never any convos between us and your corps ceos with us requesting that you should be removed from the corp. o/ sharb Dont you just love Eve politics, he said, she said, they :) So somewhere between you attacking can flippers to help someone out and being a smack talker and attacking someone elses friends lies the truth which we will never know. The fact that you posted suggests that you do feel griefed. I'll still talk to that CEO and see if there is a spot for you as playing Eve without a decent bunch of pilots is pretty boring. In the mean time, dont bite off more than you can chew even if your intentions are honorable and dont smack. Telling someone "your mommas so fat that her belly button has its own echo" is never a good thing to do. However intellectual well placed witty banter is always fun especially if the recipient is a little upset :) o/
Svartkraft Nethro Ore Conglomerate	Posted - 2009.12.11 15:29:00 - [32] Edited by: Svartkraft on 11/12/2009 15:31:17 Originally by: Mr Xanatos Dont you just love Eve politics, he said, she said, they :) So somewhere between you attacking can flippers to help someone out and being a smack talker and attacking someone elses friends lies the truth which we will never know. The fact that you posted suggests that you do feel griefed. I'll still talk to that CEO and see if there is a spot for you as playing Eve without a decent bunch of pilots is pretty boring. In the mean time, dont bite off more than you can chew even if your intentions are honorable and dont smack. Telling someone "your mommas so fat that her belly button has its own echo" is never a good thing to do. However intellectual well placed witty banter is always fun especially if the recipient is a little upset :) o/ I'm not quite sure which portions of this text are directed at Nethro, but anyway: The intention of sharbat's post wasnt to claim that we are righteous people. The accusations of grief, ****, pillage and plunder (and whatever else) are probably justified. However, the intention of the post was to clarify that the OP did his share to cause this situation.
Mr Xanatos	Posted - 2009.12.11 15:58:00 - [33] Originally by: Svartkraft I'm not quite sure which portions of this text are directed at Nethro, but anyway: The intention of sharbat's post wasnt to claim that we are righteous people. The accusations of grief, ****, pillage and plunder (and whatever else) are probably justified. However, the intention of the post was to clarify that the OP did his share to cause this situation. My post was in no way directed at Nethro or was I implying anything, simply a generic statement about Eve politics. I have no interest in taking on the sins (if any) of the OP and turning them into my own personal crusade. If he did ye wrong he did ye wrong, I wasn't there so I'm not in a position to accuse anyone of anything. What I am doing is offering the OP is a fresh start, the chance to join a decent Corp and to enjoy Eve the way it should be. If the OP turns out to be a smack talking can flipping immature pilot then so be it, he wont last long in said Corp. If the OP turns out to be good honest respectful player then he will earn a place which a great bunch of pilots. o/
The Aliax Gallente Triton Dynamics LLC	Posted - 2009.12.11 16:02:00 - [34] Originally by: Sharbat Edited by: Sharbat on 11/12/2009 15:03:13 Hello Moro, since we aren't even aware of stalking you, we took a look into the situation. So let us clarify some things: Your initial corp (Unscripted) attacked one of our friends. We declare war on Unscripted to help our mates (so this war was unrelated to you as a person). After the wardec, you open a chat and smacktalk a whole lot on how you will destroy our two corps. After this little chat you quit Unscripted and leave the rest of the corp to die. As a result of your smacking, you earned yourself a wardec on a personal basis on the new corp (what your reap is what you sow - also have a look at the nice ccp trailer which explains to you in detail how your actions influence this game). And here we are now with you claiming we were wardeccing you all along on an alt we arent even aware of as well as positioning yourself as the innocent person that gets griefed out of the game by us. Also there were never any convos between us and your corps ceos with us requesting that you should be removed from the corp. o/ sharb Hmm The Plot thickens /grabs popcorn continue... ______________________________ The Aliax CEO Triton Dynamics LLC.
Mr Xanatos	Posted - 2009.12.11 16:14:00 - [35] Originally by: The Aliax Hmm The Plot thickens /grabs popcorn continue... Regular or Chocolate Carmel? nom nom nom
The Aliax Gallente Triton Dynamics LLC	Posted - 2009.12.11 16:17:00 - [36] Originally by: Mr Xanatos Originally by: The Aliax Hmm The Plot thickens /grabs popcorn continue... Regular or Chocolate Carmel? nom nom nom Neg. Butter is king ______________________________ The Aliax CEO Triton Dynamics LLC.
Jack Airron Gallente Setenta Corp F A I L	Posted - 2009.12.11 16:29:00 - [37] Originally by: The Aliax Originally by: Mr Xanatos Originally by: The Aliax Hmm The Plot thickens /grabs popcorn continue... Regular or Chocolate Carmel? nom nom nom Neg. Butter is king
Moro Black	Posted - 2009.12.11 17:34:00 - [38] Originally by: Mr Xanatos Originally by: Svartkraft I'm not quite sure which portions of this text are directed at Nethro, but anyway: The intention of sharbat's post wasnt to claim that we are righteous people. The accusations of grief, ****, pillage and plunder (and whatever else) are probably justified. However, the intention of the post was to clarify that the OP did his share to cause this situation. My post was in no way directed at Nethro or was I implying anything, simply a generic statement about Eve politics. I have no interest in taking on the sins (if any) of the OP and turning them into my own personal crusade. If he did ye wrong he did ye wrong, I wasn't there so I'm not in a position to accuse anyone of anything. What I am doing is offering the OP is a fresh start, the chance to join a decent Corp and to enjoy Eve the way it should be. If the OP turns out to be a smack talking can flipping immature pilot then so be it, he wont last long in said Corp. If the OP turns out to be good honest respectful player then he will earn a place which a great bunch of pilots. o/ I would like a chance to show you I am not a can flipping immature smack talker, I am a Honest respectful player who does his best to help his corp.. in any way I can a fresh start would be great right about now... if you would give me the chance I would not make a liar of myself I would give it my all to better the corp and prove I am a good solid player.
Callista Sincera Amarr	Posted - 2009.12.11 19:44:00 - [39] Sharbat is the kind of guy who blows up people, sees their fitting was crap, sends them some money to replace the loss and invites them into his corp to teach them some PVP. He's also way to relaxed/lazy to bother stalking people through their API keys or corp members. -
Nilithar	Posted - 2009.12.17 00:24:00 - [40] o/ Moro Black I would like a chance to show you I am not a can flipping immature smack talker, I am a Honest respectful player who does his best to help his corp.. in any way I can a fresh start would be great right about now... if you would give me the chance I would not make a liar of myself I would give it my all to better the corp and prove I am a good solid player. Moro came to our corp the Global Unification Project, and he insulted and demeaned our CEO telling him he didnt know what he was going. All in the aims of getting him to hand over control of the corp to Moro and his alt Tim Viden. They proceed to turn our corporation into a dictatorship, stripping everyone of their privileges and titles and telling us all that if we leave he will brand us traitors and hunt us down to extinction to the point where we couldnt do anything in game. After leaving because I didnt want to be under his tyrannical control, he threatens me saying "I'm finished" because i just want to play with my friends and friendly people. He then continues to blame me for other people not wanting to stick around. Moro asked my friend Jadedwarlord to fire on his ship to test it's defensive capability while he was still in the corp, while it was still lawful to do so. Moro then proceeds to destroy Jaded's only ship and talk smack to him telling him that all leavers will die. Is that a respectful mature player? No. Moro even linked Jaded some site to rub in that his ship got vaporized. His actions have harmed other players and he thinks he's in the right and has the right to threaten those of us that he "took over" in the Global Unification Project. Please dont just believe that he's completely innocent, because he is not.

Jadedwarlord	Posted - 2009.12.17 00:27:00 - [41] Hello all, My name is Jadedwarlord, and i am both a former member of Global Unification Project, as well as a former associate of Moro Black. I see here on this thread that Moro is trying to convince you that he is a decent and fair player of Eve. I am here today to give you a firsthand account of someone who actually played with him in game, revealing that in reality Moro is simply not what he claims. I joined the Global Unification Project soon after its creation by Synthics. Being new to the game, this was the first corporation that i have been a part of, and i quickly developed friendships with all the members. The corporation is made up of laid back, social individuals whose only goal was to have fun and build a prosperous mining guild. Moro Black single-handedly ruined our corp. He joined about a week ago, taking over position as CEO of the corp. Synthics has been busy as of late, and was simply ready to pass the torch. After the transfer was complete, Moro immediately seized the company assets, barred the members from their corporate accounts, and pushed for us to move out into null sec space. Soon after his joining the corp, we had war declared on our corp. through some internal investigation, the members of our corp found out that Moro had been insulting members of the opposing corp, fueling the war declaration. All of these decisions and actions were taken without the consent of the entire corp, and simply served to put the rest of us in unneeded danger. A good friend of mine, Da Brain123, had his barge blown up, and the rest of us have been living in fear. Not long after making the long move out to null sec space, i ascertained that it would not be possible for me to make ends meet out there. Being a new pilot with barely tree weeks of playing under my belt, i was not prepared to live out in null sec. several other corp members were in the same situation. Nilithar, a fellow corp mate and friend discovered that several of his real-world friends played Eve, and so decided to form a new corp with them out in high sec space. Seeing this, i decided to join him in this endeavor. I had no problems with anyone in the corp, this move was simply made in order to stay close to friends. I submitted my letter of resignation to the corp, and formerly resigned from the Global Unification Project. Not long after, i was contacted by Moro Black in a private conversation. What follows if the conversation, from which you can deduce the actions that he took against me...
Jadedwarlord	Posted - 2009.12.17 00:36:00 - [42] Jadedwarlord > what is it? Tim Viden > u are leaving for his corp Jadedwarlord > yeah, we're friends Tim Viden > man why? Tim Viden > I thought we were friends Jadedwarlord > im going to enjoy a more laid back corp Tim Viden > I wanted to ask u to help me with something but I guess not anymore since u are leaving :( Jadedwarlord > we are Jadedwarlord > im sorry man, we just want to stick together Tim Viden > ok Jadedwarlord > and i want to go back to high sec space Tim Viden > but before u go can u help me with something Jadedwarlord > im already 27 jumps out Tim Viden > can u help me test my ship before u leave the corp Tim Viden > cause u cant help me do that when u leave since we cant attack eachother Tim Viden > NPC rats cant do the dmg player ships can Tim Viden > so I cant test my ship to make sure I can beat these war guys Jadedwarlord > if you fly out here to where i am i will Tim Viden > and I cant trust anyone in local cause they will kill me Tim Viden > where are u Tim Viden > I am in high sec Tim Viden > <b><url=showinfo:5//30001703>Taru</url></b> Jadedwarlord > sobaseki Vll Tim Viden > u are close to taru Jadedwarlord > can you fly out here? Tim Viden > sure Jadedwarlord > ive been flying all mornin Tim Viden > what ship are u in Jadedwarlord > my BC Tim Viden > bah Tim Viden > talk to me on moro Moro Black > ok Moro Black > I am 12 jumps from soba Moro Black > it will take my BS forever to get there Moro Black > can we meet half way? Jadedwarlord > what system? Moro Black > Madirmilie Moro Black > <b><url=showinfo:5//30003503>Madirmilire</url></b> Moro Black > thats half way Jadedwarlord > ok Jadedwarlord > otw Moro Black > when u get there meet at the first belt Jadedwarlord > ok Moro Black > 2 away what about u? Jadedwarlord > 5 away Moro Black > how are u going so slow?? Moro Black > are u warping to 0?? Jadedwarlord > ...... Jadedwarlord > i ve got auto pilot on Moro Black > nah man Moro Black > warp to 0 and just jump Moro Black > it is alot faster Jadedwarlord > hmmmmm Moro Black > with auto pilot and warping to 0 and jumping Moro Black > say u auto pilot 15 jumps Moro Black > but u warp to 0 and jump 40 jumps with the same ship Moro Black > u will get 40 jumps done before auto pilot gets 15 Jadedwarlord > ok
Jadedwarlord	Posted - 2009.12.17 00:36:00 - [43] Moro Black > I am waiting at the first bekt Moro Black > belt* Moro Black > how far are u Jadedwarlord > 1 jump Jadedwarlord > ok, im coming Moro Black > alright Moro Black > shoot me when u get here Moro Black > my tank is turned on Jadedwarlord > im not seeing you Moro Black > im at the first belt on the list Jadedwarlord > which number? Moro Black > 1 Jadedwarlord > i went to #1 Moro Black > I 1 Moro Black > there is 2 1's Jadedwarlord > coming Moro Black > Madirmilire I - Asteroid Belt 1 Moro Black > shoot me when rdy Jadedwarlord > ok Jadedwarlord > im getting out to 15k Moro Black > fire I will pay for your ammo that u use Jadedwarlord > why are you shooting me? Moro Black > u wanna leave this corp I told u only people who die get to leave deserters Moro Black > Nilithar will be at war with me in 24 hrs Jadedwarlord > you bastard Jadedwarlord > that is just lame Moro Black > I sent a mail to the corp when I joined Moro Black > if anyone left without good reason they will die Jadedwarlord > staying with friends is a good reason Moro Black > why Jadedwarlord > you are just being anal Moro Black > nilithar will die soon enough Moro Black > http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=8870610 Moro Black > here u go Moro Black > o and btw Moro Black > when u join nilithar Moro Black > tell him I am coming for him Jadedwarlord > you are a ****ing prick Jadedwarlord > go to hell Moro Black > already been there Moro Black > have a nice day
da brain123	Posted - 2009.12.17 01:26:00 - [44] Edited by: da brain123 on 17/12/2009 01:26:58 oooooh and the plot thickens.... =)... Well i might as well throw in my 5 bob. I was one of the founding members of Global unification project along with my RL m8 Sythics. We were running the corp up on its way... me heading up the mining and sythics to deal with combat. Eventually the goal was a low-sec spot, the POS.. y'know... the 'great EVE dream' to twist a cliqu'e. Anyway, we managed to build up to a decent size and helped many a newb along with the game, coz I been playing a fair long while... I was the first person to contact moro... when he was still in unscripted... mainly along business lines to protect our rapidly growing mining div in low-sec. Soon after this correspondance he informed us that a 'noob corp' had wardecced unscripted, wich would have been fine except they hired a merc corp to dec them into the ground. Not to far from what moro has been saying on here but not the whole truth... I never suspected any personal vendetta and therfore welcomed an experienced player into our corp to head up a PvP division and essentially do exactly what i suggested in the first place... only within the corp. What follows next happenned during a series of absences on my behalf do to RL concerns. when i returned after a few days, sythics was poised to hand over leadership to Moro. Or at least his alt. this wasnt so bad i thought.... i had bickered with Moro on a number of occasions about trivial things like fittings, mining spots, etc... but this is just a normal part of EVE and happens between any experienced players imo. =) Again i had to leave for a few days and when i returned i found that we had been war-decced and i had missed 24 hours grace... Moro's solution was to move us to null-sec... not a disagreeable proposition itslef.... i just had ...troubles... getting there. At this point i have to i think congratulate sharbat on hunting me down in 3 seperate occasions while making the trip and once managing to blow my hauler with most of my gear in it =P.. From that point on EVE-mails and private convo's were racing like wildfire and a significant dissent was becoming apparent within the corp. people were not happy with having there hand forced...... despite a number of significant benifits to our new null-sec home. I still never really like moro, just his attitude stunk to me... especially as i am so much more of a casual and layed-back player... Having now just returned from anotyher few days break.. i can sympathise with Jaded and nilithar... both of whom i recruited in their wee bantams outside the tutorial mission station =)and both of whom ahve been treated unfairly by an over-zealous CEO. I think moro takes this game way to seriously and ruins the fun for everyone else... at least among me and my [ex]corp-mates. There has been a number of solutions suggested so far and i must go to the lengths of adding another 2... .Since you seem so impossibly rich "Moro Black > I got over 5bill isk" (from a convo with redezem, another of my RL corp-mates. who i hope posts his testimony here as well) just pay them up for whatever greviences (it cant be that much of a dent out of your volimunous wallet) and let sleeping dogs lie. AKA carebear solution.. =) .(ok i lied this is an overall sugegstion not a solution to ure prob)... find a waaaaaaay more serious corp in EVE and have fun in it... people like those of us that were the core of global unification jus dont take good to people who play over-serious.. were to layed back and focussed on RL... i mean seriously man. [ 2009.12.09 13:03:52 ] Moro Black > I play for about 12 hrs a day u are not like me Moro Black > sometimes more Moro Black > like now Moro Black > I have been on eve for 21 hrs Moro Black > and will be on for another 10+ (taken straight out of chat log from the discussion about moro leading the corp instead of sythics) lol srry.. i edited the timestamps a bit =P
SupaKudoRio	Posted - 2009.12.17 02:49:00 - [45] munches popcorn Shouldn't this be in C&P? On another note, how do you like your pods in the morning?
Cyprus Black Caldari Cowboy Diplomacy	Posted - 2009.12.17 05:02:00 - [46] Originally by: Moro Black ...and being in a NPC cor I cant do really anything I want the 11% tax now takes too much from missions I was feeling sympathetic for the OP until I read this part. Now I see him for what he really is. Another whining alt from the same small minority of players complaining about the 11% NPC tax. His whining about the tax disguised as a newbies plea for help. ___________________________________ ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in EvE... you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Jadedwarlord	Posted - 2009.12.17 05:55:00 - [47] Moro also has an additional alt named Jess42. So in recap: Moro Black, Tim Viden, and Jess42.
Forcei Invested Interests	Posted - 2009.12.17 06:11:00 - [48] Whats this... /popcorn in New Citizens?

CCP Ildoge	Posted - 2009.12.17 06:25:00 - [49] * Moved from New Citizens Q&A forum. - CCP Ildoge Ildoge Community Representative CCP Hf Contact us

Cyprus Black Caldari Cowboy Diplomacy	Posted - 2009.12.17 06:26:00 - [50] Originally by: Jadedwarlord Moro also has an additional alt named Jess42. So in recap: Moro Black, Tim Viden, and Jess42. Oh, I'm gonna hunt this ****er down and chase him out of EvE. ___________________________________ ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in EvE... you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki

Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2009.12.17 06:30:00 - [51] Originally by: CCP Ildoge * Moved from New Citizens Q&A forum. - CCP Ildoge Lol.. OK who else read this as 'Hello pirates of eve, please greaf this guy some more, kthanksbie'
Molaichi	Posted - 2009.12.17 06:31:00 - [52] Didn't expect to see sth like this here... let's see how it goes further
Hellfury Resurrected Incura HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.12.17 06:38:00 - [53] Originally by: CCP Ildoge * Moved from New Citizens Q&A forum. - CCP Ildoge You moved the thread, but left in the massive walls of chatlogs. I see you've been taking moderating lessons from CCP Applebabe (a phenomenal moderator imho) -------------------------------------------
Sir Carnage	Posted - 2009.12.17 06:58:00 - [54] Originally by: Lana Torrin Originally by: CCP Ildoge * Moved from New Citizens Q&A forum. - CCP Ildoge Lol.. OK who else read this as 'Hello pirates of eve, please greaf this guy some more, kthanksbie' this. Think I'll see if we can pry ourselves away and head on up to shoot. Shouldn't take too much convincing, we're getting antsy again. Quote: A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. - Douglas Adams
Serlunt	Posted - 2009.12.17 07:03:00 - [55] The second page made me laugh so hard I dribbled a little. True story.
Liang Nuren No Salvation War.Pigs.	Posted - 2009.12.17 07:25:00 - [56] Originally by: Sir Carnage Originally by: Lana Torrin Originally by: CCP Ildoge * Moved from New Citizens Q&A forum. - CCP Ildoge Lol.. OK who else read this as 'Hello pirates of eve, please greaf this guy some more, kthanksbie' this. Think I'll see if we can pry ourselves away and head on up to shoot. Shouldn't take too much convincing, we're getting antsy again. Hahaha, I read it that way too. -Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org
Marko Riva Adamant Inc	Posted - 2009.12.17 07:50:00 - [57] Founding member 1: this new guy is an idiot Founding member 2: yeah, lets not kick him from the corp, you know what? lets make in CEO, that'll be fun! ----------- I think, therefore I'm single. New projectile damage PDF Alliance creation service
Navtiqes Space Sheriff	Posted - 2009.12.17 08:13:00 - [58] Edited by: Navtiqes on 17/12/2009 08:14:03 Originally by: Cyprus Black Originally by: Jadedwarlord Moro also has an additional alt named Jess42. So in recap: Moro Black, Tim Viden, and Jess42. Oh, I'm gonna hunt this ****er down and chase him out of EvE. For a guy who whines alot he doesn't seem to have all that many losses. Nothing on the alts and just 3 registered on the main. ..And he thinks he's got it rough now
Ivanna Nuke Gallente Daralux	Posted - 2009.12.17 08:40:00 - [59] Confirming the OP still owes me his wallet. But I can haz stuffz when you emo rage quit right?
Brego Tralowski Gallente Dead space evolution	Posted - 2009.12.17 09:34:00 - [60] This is better than the soaps on TV, firstly, any corp offering to take this numpty in i'd think carefully about it, he's obviously getting the attention he deserves right now and wants to hide behind the corpies in a more experienced corp. And secoundly I quite fancy paying him a visit too! Remember theres no smoke without fire Moro as the saying goes, if you act like a burk then be prepared to be treated in the same way. Obviously I can't say whats true or not with this situation of yours but, perhaps you thought none of the other Eve pilots whom you 'alledgedly' treated like cr*p would see this and post? Anyhoo, Fail for you! ----------------------------------------------- Fly safe, but not too safe!



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