Frankly as far as psychoanalysis goes I'd be more concerned about the people who get all raged up over losing internet pixels. I mean honestly this guy has likely lost less in ships in the last several months than I have in the last week. Two of them were pet projects that were rather expensive that I was testing out (Both were successful then I died in them by getting cocky :v). Who cares?

It is interesting that you are now diverting your attention to me in attempt to discredit me (ad hominem) instead of arguing what I wrote. You also do not reflect over the fact that a guy took pleasure in causing emotional distress to an actual person. It was'nt "die ship die", but he was well aware that there was a real person (two actually, he reflected on who they were) who was emotionally hurt (even tho its just pixels) and he enjoys the anonimity and the opportunity to hurt someone without repercussions.

If you think about it, I'd guess that eve demographics would reflect rl demographics in the percentage of sadistic gankers. Not all pvpers/gankers/pvpers are sociopaths, of course, but those that are don't see anything wrong with it, nor do they understand that other person might be upset (even briefly and laugh about it later).

It is not about how much other person was hurt or not, nor would there be any damage done, but the clue is in the lack of insight and inability to make a connection.

It is interesting that you are now diverting your attention to me in attempt to discredit me (ad hominem) instead of arguing what I wrote. You also do not reflect over the fact that a guy took pleasure in causing emotional distress to an actual person. It was'nt "die ship die", but he was well aware that there was a real person (two actually, he reflected on who they were) who was emotionally hurt (even tho its just pixels) and he enjoys the anonimity and the opportunity to hurt someone without repercussions.

If you think about it, I'd guess that eve demographics would reflect rl demographics in the percentage of sadistic gankers. Not all pvpers/gankers/pvpers are sociopaths, of course, but those that are don't see anything wrong with it, nor do they understand that other person might be upset (even briefly and laugh about it later).

It is not about how much other person was hurt or not, nor would there be any damage done, but the clue is in the lack of insight and inability to make a connection.

OP and friends can justify their actions as much as they want - it doesn't change the result.

This thread is getting cyclical. I'm done psychoanalyzing for the night.

Ciao.

OP and friends can justify their actions as much as they want - it doesn't change the result.

This thread is getting cyclical. I'm done psychoanalyzing for the night.

roleplay

Wow, another suicide ganker bandwagon thread. Let me summarize it. He wants to kill the stupid newbs and make them quit the game so they learn from their mistake of playing EvE. This is getting idiotic.

Hulk Pilots aren't new to the game. Thus they are not newbies.

I don't see anything wrong with doing a lot of things in games.

I betray my friends every time I play Diplomacy or Risk.
I gouge my friends every time I play Monopoly.
I take my friends money every time I play Poker.

In Game Actions != Real Life Actions.
In Game Behavior != Real Life Behavior
In Game Morality != Real Life Morality

The Hulk hull isn't that skill intensive. these are 2 month old players.

The Hulk hull isn't that skill intensive. these are 2 month old players.

Wow, another suicide ganker bandwagon thread. Let me summarize it. He wants to kill the stupid newbs and make them quit the game so they learn from their mistake of playing EvE. This is getting idiotic.

When you play monopoly when your friends land on boardwalk, you laugh at them and belittle them and tell them if they don't like it they should quit. When you play poker you win a pot and call everyone stupid newbs for playing into your hand. By the end of the day you don't have any friends left to play with because your smack talking foolishness got in the way.

I didn't want them to quit, I wanted them to learn from their mistake. If they want to cry & rage-quit the game over it, the least they could do is give me their stuff.



I'm brave IRL too. We should go on a date.

sure you are, hero. kinda reminds me of a few yrs ago when i met a mouthy guy in a bar with a selfmade goonswarm t-shirt.

All mouth and bravado online, but, alas face to face usually a different story.

ahh well, such is life

Hulkageddon may be over (sort of), but it's spirit will forever live on. I found myself rather bored yesterday, waiting for a guy to log on so I could gank his so-called ungankable hulk. It didn't happen, so I decided to kill a random hulk for a giggle. I found this.

Being happy with my quick little gank, I was about to hit the sack & received a convo from the other person in the belt. If I'm to take a guess, I killed a husband & wife veld mining team... And she clearly wears the pants.

If I'm to take another guess, it appears that they're planning to sell the accounts. Mission accomplished?

Way to go B****boy, you are able to kill UNARMED ships......You should join Boobswarm

A shame. I'd love to hear you psychoanalyze the miners. If gankers are sociopaths for shooting ships in a ship-shooting game, what does that make the carebears? Are they "AFK" in real life--catatonic perhaps?

Ugghhghghg. I really shouldn't have checked this thread again ;)

If you go back over my posts, you'll notice I haven't called anyone a sociopath. I certainly don't think OP or gankers are sociopaths. I mean, some of them may be, and ganking in EVE may be a natural outlet for their sickness, but ganking in EVE definately doesn't make someone a sociopath.

I've just been commenting on my beliefs regarding the connection between actions in a game and actions in real life. I don't necessarily think OP would go out of his way to hurt someone in real life - but based on what I know of him through this forum post, I would say he is more likely to than someone who practices kindness in-game.

Care-bearing, is very different and much harder to analyze. OP gave us a specific scenario to look at, "carebear" is far too general of a term. Maybe the player is new, and not confident enough with the game mechanics to pursue PvP; maybe the player enjoys the serenity (okay, boredom) of mining. There are far too many possible reasons for me to list.

Of course if we're talking about a player that has been around for a long time and actively fears the gankers and pirates, then I would say that they suffer from a lack of self-confidence. They don't trust in their own ability to either defeat their enemies or to find others to help them defeat their enemies. They, instead, let fear rule their choices and decisions - they operate based on what they feel will be the safest move.

OP, on the other hand, seemed to enjoy and relish the suffering he has caused - which may set him apart from other gankers or pirates. The fact that he posted on the forums about his actions (and linked chat logs) really indicates that he's proud of distressing his victims.

I'm a really kind person in real life, but I like to blow up pixel spaceships in a computer game. What is your analysis?

I'm a really kind person in real life, but I like to blow up pixel spaceships in a computer game. What is your analysis?

Frankly as far as psychoanalysis goes I'd be more concerned about the people who get all raged up over losing internet pixels.

That you're lying to troll me on a forum. :)

EDIT: Okay, finefine - I'd say you have a repressed desire for power over other people. You may not even realize it. Do you have overbearing parents? As a child, were you bullied a lot? I'm genuinely curious.

Where did you do your Post-Doctoral work in Psychoanalysis?

Haha! I only have a Bachelors Degree. Although I'm currently attending graduate school.

I guess I should note that I am not qualified to dole out medical advice; just opinions. I just figured that was assumed, you know - with this being a video game forum and all... ;)

any claim to anything resembling accuracy?