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mahhy	Posted - 2004.11.14 08:05:00 - [61] Originally by: Rex Mortalis We have all been scammed I've yet to be scammed. 1.) Always inspect merchandise. Always. 2.) Always be very careful to check the price. 3.) Don't play eve drunk Not signed. Let the scammers do whatever they want. They know they're the scum of the world.
mahhy	Posted - 2004.11.14 08:05:00 - [62] Originally by: Rex Mortalis We have all been scammed I've yet to be scammed. 1.) Always inspect merchandise. Always. 2.) Always be very careful to check the price. 3.) Don't play eve drunk Not signed. Let the scammers do whatever they want. They know they're the scum of the world.
Victoria Madison	Posted - 2004.11.14 08:10:00 - [63] You have to be... a) Stupid b) Lazy c) Greedy d) Any of the above ...to be scammed in EVE. Petition NOT signed. Kisses, Victoria
Victoria Madison	Posted - 2004.11.14 08:10:00 - [64] You have to be... a) Stupid b) Lazy c) Greedy d) Any of the above ...to be scammed in EVE. Petition NOT signed. Kisses, Victoria
Enraku Reynolt	Posted - 2004.11.14 08:11:00 - [65] If there was a player rating system and a option to block seeing escrows from either 1. people you blocked 2. peoploe below a certain escrow rating cause theres too much junk forcing real escrows off the listing ------------------------------------------------ Do not let the world change you. Change the world Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the sa
Enraku Reynolt	Posted - 2004.11.14 08:11:00 - [66] If there was a player rating system and a option to block seeing escrows from either 1. people you blocked 2. peoploe below a certain escrow rating cause theres too much junk forcing real escrows off the listing ------------------------------------------------ Do not let the world change you. Change the world Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the sa
Seto Mazzarotto	Posted - 2004.11.14 08:26:00 - [67] Negotiator, your sig will give me nightmares. ----------- Fighting for the ideals of freespace, posthuman ethics, and rock & roll.
Seto Mazzarotto	Posted - 2004.11.14 08:26:00 - [68] Negotiator, your sig will give me nightmares. ----------- Fighting for the ideals of freespace, posthuman ethics, and rock & roll.
Viceroy	Posted - 2004.11.14 08:48:00 - [69] Edited by: Viceroy on 14/11/2004 08:51:13 Haha. Not signed. In fact I'm going to start my own petition to make scamming easier out of spite for people who think they can sexually violate the game into a 100% safe mining sim/chat client to compensate for their own stupidity. kthxbye. Quote: Please post a "signed" message to sign the petition and not post anything else in the topic, this is only a petiton,thanks. What the hell does that mean anyway? "Hi I'd like to propose a stupid idea but i dont want any criticism so either agree with me or dont wake up the people who do agree" Yeah that warning worked like a charm. -
Viceroy	Posted - 2004.11.14 08:48:00 - [70] Edited by: Viceroy on 14/11/2004 08:51:13 Haha. Not signed. In fact I'm going to start my own petition to make scamming easier out of spite for people who think they can sexually violate the game into a 100% safe mining sim/chat client to compensate for their own stupidity. kthxbye. Quote: Please post a "signed" message to sign the petition and not post anything else in the topic, this is only a petiton,thanks. What the hell does that mean anyway? "Hi I'd like to propose a stupid idea but i dont want any criticism so either agree with me or dont wake up the people who do agree" Yeah that warning worked like a charm. -

Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.11.14 09:08:00 - [71] Originally by: Tatsue Nuko Originally by: Trevedian BTW u got me hooked on the Peter Hamilton books Josh Peter Hamilton? As in the Sci-Fi author? Who is completely roxxor? Josh, the more I get to know about you, the more I find myself liking you. Now that's a marked change from the usual pattern of things LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.11.14 09:08:00 - [72] Originally by: Tatsue Nuko Originally by: Trevedian BTW u got me hooked on the Peter Hamilton books Josh Peter Hamilton? As in the Sci-Fi author? Who is completely roxxor? Josh, the more I get to know about you, the more I find myself liking you. Now that's a marked change from the usual pattern of things LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Wrangler	Posted - 2004.11.14 09:53:00 - [73] I think the black market agents are supposed to make scamming harder. [Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators]
Wrangler	Posted - 2004.11.14 09:53:00 - [74] I think the black market agents are supposed to make scamming harder. [Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators]
Xthril Ranger	Posted - 2004.11.14 10:56:00 - [75] Edited by: Xthril Ranger on 14/11/2004 10:59:16 Originally by: Trevedian BTW u got me hooked on the Peter Hamilton books Josh 10 months left for our next fix Linkage Edit: signed.
Xthril Ranger	Posted - 2004.11.14 10:56:00 - [76] Edited by: Xthril Ranger on 14/11/2004 10:59:16 Originally by: Trevedian BTW u got me hooked on the Peter Hamilton books Josh 10 months left for our next fix Linkage Edit: signed.
Gariuys	Posted - 2004.11.14 11:21:00 - [77] Originally by: Viceroy Edited by: Viceroy on 14/11/2004 08:51:13 Haha. Not signed. In fact I'm going to start my own petition to make scamming easier out of spite for people who think they can sexually violate the game into a 100% safe mining sim/chat client to compensate for their own stupidity. kthxbye. Quote: Please post a "signed" message to sign the petition and not post anything else in the topic, this is only a petiton,thanks. What the hell does that mean anyway? "Hi I'd like to propose a stupid idea but i dont want any criticism so either agree with me or dont wake up the people who do agree" Yeah that warning worked like a charm. Yeah never get why people try, it's a forum, place of discussion, not a good place to have a poll with only 1 possible answer. Oh and not signed. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
Gariuys	Posted - 2004.11.14 11:21:00 - [78] Originally by: Viceroy Edited by: Viceroy on 14/11/2004 08:51:13 Haha. Not signed. In fact I'm going to start my own petition to make scamming easier out of spite for people who think they can sexually violate the game into a 100% safe mining sim/chat client to compensate for their own stupidity. kthxbye. Quote: Please post a "signed" message to sign the petition and not post anything else in the topic, this is only a petiton,thanks. What the hell does that mean anyway? "Hi I'd like to propose a stupid idea but i dont want any criticism so either agree with me or dont wake up the people who do agree" Yeah that warning worked like a charm. Yeah never get why people try, it's a forum, place of discussion, not a good place to have a poll with only 1 possible answer. Oh and not signed. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
MysticNZ	Posted - 2004.11.14 11:26:00 - [79] Nup. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
MysticNZ	Posted - 2004.11.14 11:26:00 - [80] Nup. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.

Skaz	Posted - 2004.11.14 13:39:00 - [81] sigh I don't know how often CCP has said that scamming IS and WILL CONTINUE to be a part of the EVE universe, so sorry this "petition" of yours is pointless. Sure scamming is way too easy right now, but it's also really easy to spot. What EVE needs is a sort of contract system, you know official docs and stuff, might even spice up the trade. Who knows what Shiva will bring though, like Wrangler said the black market system is supposed to change something "No, I'm not alt.....even if I have been in Pator Tech School for 2 years..."
Skaz	Posted - 2004.11.14 13:39:00 - [82] sigh I don't know how often CCP has said that scamming IS and WILL CONTINUE to be a part of the EVE universe, so sorry this "petition" of yours is pointless. Sure scamming is way too easy right now, but it's also really easy to spot. What EVE needs is a sort of contract system, you know official docs and stuff, might even spice up the trade. Who knows what Shiva will bring though, like Wrangler said the black market system is supposed to change something "No, I'm not alt.....even if I have been in Pator Tech School for 2 years..."
Aaron Rex	Posted - 2004.11.14 14:04:00 - [83] Edited by: Aaron Rex on 14/11/2004 14:08:55 I played for over a year before being scammed, but it finaly happened and I'm now a proud owner of a 10mill shuttle. This happened cos at the time I was very tired, in a hurry and not paying attention. My fault pure and simple. Sure I was a bit angry at first, not at the scammer, but at myself, though not for long. In fact, when I found out that the seller used his main (pirate) character in sted of an alt the little anger I had for him dissapeared. Scamming (and being scammed) is part of Eve. Just like gate camping is. The more you remove it the less of a "surprise factor" you have in the game and the blander it gets. Now I can buy stuff off the market without having to pay attention since if I attempt to buy something at inflated prices I get a warning box. I can also jump through 0.4-0.1 systems hardly without worry since gate camping there is all but gone. It makes Eve a tad less interesting. On a final note, how would you discriminate agains scams and rippoffs? For example with shuttles: Is a 20k shuttle a scam or someone trying to make an increased profit? What about 50k? 100k? 1mill? Where do you draw the line? Pettition not signed EDIT: Profanity replaced Aaron Rex - Remember the Scordite... The Fated
Aaron Rex	Posted - 2004.11.14 14:04:00 - [84] Edited by: Aaron Rex on 14/11/2004 14:08:55 I played for over a year before being scammed, but it finaly happened and I'm now a proud owner of a 10mill shuttle. This happened cos at the time I was very tired, in a hurry and not paying attention. My fault pure and simple. Sure I was a bit angry at first, not at the scammer, but at myself, though not for long. In fact, when I found out that the seller used his main (pirate) character in sted of an alt the little anger I had for him dissapeared. Scamming (and being scammed) is part of Eve. Just like gate camping is. The more you remove it the less of a "surprise factor" you have in the game and the blander it gets. Now I can buy stuff off the market without having to pay attention since if I attempt to buy something at inflated prices I get a warning box. I can also jump through 0.4-0.1 systems hardly without worry since gate camping there is all but gone. It makes Eve a tad less interesting. On a final note, how would you discriminate agains scams and rippoffs? For example with shuttles: Is a 20k shuttle a scam or someone trying to make an increased profit? What about 50k? 100k? 1mill? Where do you draw the line? Pettition not signed EDIT: Profanity replaced Aaron Rex - Remember the Scordite... The Fated
OffBeaT	Posted - 2004.11.14 17:29:00 - [85] Edited by: OffBeaT on 14/11/2004 17:34:43 Edited by: OffBeaT on 14/11/2004 17:33:33 iv been scamed befor, its part of the game. like in life we just have too be on the look out for it. thou, i dont think you should beable too use a alt too do it.. if you commint a crime in eve the person you commited the offance too should have the right too track you down and get some payback if he can. using alts stops this from happening. total BS.. law can not be enforced proper in eve. im thinking a rating system is needed like on ebay where if you scam people and they report it too concord you get a -rating as a dealer of goods or even band from selling in certain systems. this is why i like the old system better. traders would police there own and report too others of scames on the trade channle. one trade channle is all that was needed. easyer too keep a eye on scamers.
OffBeaT	Posted - 2004.11.14 17:29:00 - [86] Edited by: OffBeaT on 14/11/2004 17:34:43 Edited by: OffBeaT on 14/11/2004 17:33:33 iv been scamed befor, its part of the game. like in life we just have too be on the look out for it. thou, i dont think you should beable too use a alt too do it.. if you commint a crime in eve the person you commited the offance too should have the right too track you down and get some payback if he can. using alts stops this from happening. total BS.. law can not be enforced proper in eve. im thinking a rating system is needed like on ebay where if you scam people and they report it too concord you get a -rating as a dealer of goods or even band from selling in certain systems. this is why i like the old system better. traders would police there own and report too others of scames on the trade channle. one trade channle is all that was needed. easyer too keep a eye on scamers.
Steel Rage	Posted - 2004.11.14 18:34:00 - [87] Read what you are buying. If it is too good to be true it probably is. Even if it seems normal read what you are buying. I have sold shuttles for 5 million I hold the isk for one month then give the isk back. It's hilarious you should try it.
Steel Rage	Posted - 2004.11.14 18:34:00 - [88] Read what you are buying. If it is too good to be true it probably is. Even if it seems normal read what you are buying. I have sold shuttles for 5 million I hold the isk for one month then give the isk back. It's hilarious you should try it.
Edoo	Posted - 2004.11.14 18:46:00 - [89] well... i'd hate to be scammed, but at least it makes it more realistic. I don't agree sorry.
Edoo	Posted - 2004.11.14 18:46:00 - [90] well... i'd hate to be scammed, but at least it makes it more realistic. I don't agree sorry.



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