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Rex Mortalis
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Posted - 2004.11.13 23:42:00 -
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Edited by: Rex Mortalis on 15/11/2004 16:51:46 Ignore this post, was a temp state of anger.. at myself
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Rex Mortalis
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Posted - 2004.11.13 23:42:00 -
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Edited by: Rex Mortalis on 15/11/2004 16:51:46 Ignore this post, was a temp state of anger.. at myself
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.11.13 23:46:00 -
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You can only be scammed if you're a complete idiot.
Are you asking us to make your stupidity illegal?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.11.13 23:46:00 -
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You can only be scammed if you're a complete idiot.
Are you asking us to make your stupidity illegal?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.11.13 23:47:00 -
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god damnit, i wanted to make the first post.
but I'll help with the petition anyways.. *unzips*
where do I sign?  _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.11.13 23:47:00 -
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god damnit, i wanted to make the first post.
but I'll help with the petition anyways.. *unzips*
where do I sign?  _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.11.13 23:47:00 -
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I vote against this motion.
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.11.13 23:47:00 -
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I vote against this motion.
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Kane Duthious
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Posted - 2004.11.13 23:50:00 -
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Signed, he said dont do anything else but sign, why are you already posting objections?
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Kane Duthious
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Posted - 2004.11.13 23:50:00 -
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Signed, he said dont do anything else but sign, why are you already posting objections?
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Shakul
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Posted - 2004.11.13 23:51:00 -
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Edited by: Shakul on 13/11/2004 23:55:21 I would rather just have an escrow search system and a safe way to trade labs; this would get around most scams. That would have the same affect as making it "illegel" Scamming is more of an inconvenience than a big problem. It just fills up escrow and wastes players time. If you get scammed, it is completely your fault (Buyer Beware). Auction your items for isk, works sort of like ebay. |

Shakul
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Posted - 2004.11.13 23:51:00 -
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Edited by: Shakul on 13/11/2004 23:55:21 I would rather just have an escrow search system and a safe way to trade labs; this would get around most scams. That would have the same affect as making it "illegel" Scamming is more of an inconvenience than a big problem. It just fills up escrow and wastes players time. If you get scammed, it is completely your fault (Buyer Beware). Auction your items for isk, works sort of like ebay. |

Trevedian
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Posted - 2004.11.13 23:53:00 -
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Edited by: Trevedian on 13/11/2004 23:56:19 Edited by: Trevedian on 13/11/2004 23:55:51
Originally by: Joshua Calvert You can only be scammed if you're a complete idiot.
Are you asking us to make your stupidity illegal?
True that... The profound wisdom of J.C. shines thru... WWJCD
BTW u got me hooked on the Peter Hamilton books Josh 
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Trevedian
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Posted - 2004.11.13 23:53:00 -
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Edited by: Trevedian on 13/11/2004 23:56:19 Edited by: Trevedian on 13/11/2004 23:55:51
Originally by: Joshua Calvert You can only be scammed if you're a complete idiot.
Are you asking us to make your stupidity illegal?
True that... The profound wisdom of J.C. shines thru... WWJCD
BTW u got me hooked on the Peter Hamilton books Josh 
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Xelios
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Posted - 2004.11.13 23:53:00 -
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If only people who agree with you are allowed to post, it doesn't give a very accurate representation of what the player base wants does it?
Best way to not get scammed is to not let yourself get scammed. Check yourself before you wreck yourself, yo.
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Xelios
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Posted - 2004.11.13 23:53:00 -
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If only people who agree with you are allowed to post, it doesn't give a very accurate representation of what the player base wants does it?
Best way to not get scammed is to not let yourself get scammed. Check yourself before you wreck yourself, yo.
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Vegeta
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Posted - 2004.11.13 23:55:00 -
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I concurr... not.
You got scammed and come here whining? boo hoo 
2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
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Vegeta
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Posted - 2004.11.13 23:55:00 -
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I concurr... not.
You got scammed and come here whining? boo hoo 
2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
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Barth3zzzNL
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:02:00 -
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Not having to spend days to filter the spam out of the Escrow would be nice for a change.
Might as well sign it, not that itll do any good  ---------------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

Barth3zzzNL
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:02:00 -
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Not having to spend days to filter the spam out of the Escrow would be nice for a change.
Might as well sign it, not that itll do any good  ---------------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
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Silex D'Arden
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist god damnit, i wanted to make the first post.
but I'll help with the petition anyways.. *unzips*
where do I sign? 
Sweet I just drank like a gallon of water, I'm ready to write an essay on the subject....
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Silex D'Arden
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist god damnit, i wanted to make the first post.
but I'll help with the petition anyways.. *unzips*
where do I sign? 
Sweet I just drank like a gallon of water, I'm ready to write an essay on the subject....
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Urkl
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Rex Mortalis We have all been scammed
In around 4 months of playing, I've never once been scammed, and I buy things on escrow all the time.
Right-click -->inspect merchandise 
There really should be a system for trading/selling lab/factory/office slots, however. That's about the only way I can see that someone could potentially get scammed. Of course, if you're willing to hand over your money before the goods are "in you hands," that's sorta your problem, too. I'd love to have just 1 stinkin' lab, but I'm not willing to pay up-front for it and just trust the other person.
So in short, always "inspect merchandise" before you buy something on escrow, and never pay for something before it's delivered. Remember these 2 things and I promise you'll never ever ever be scammed again.
*** ***** ***** ***** ** ***** ** **** *** *****. |

Urkl
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Rex Mortalis We have all been scammed
In around 4 months of playing, I've never once been scammed, and I buy things on escrow all the time.
Right-click -->inspect merchandise 
There really should be a system for trading/selling lab/factory/office slots, however. That's about the only way I can see that someone could potentially get scammed. Of course, if you're willing to hand over your money before the goods are "in you hands," that's sorta your problem, too. I'd love to have just 1 stinkin' lab, but I'm not willing to pay up-front for it and just trust the other person.
So in short, always "inspect merchandise" before you buy something on escrow, and never pay for something before it's delivered. Remember these 2 things and I promise you'll never ever ever be scammed again.
*** ***** ***** ***** ** ***** ** **** *** *****. |

Jozef Meurtrier
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:10:00 -
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k.
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Jozef Meurtrier
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:10:00 -
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k.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:12:00 -
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Edited by: drunkenmaster on 14/11/2004 00:17:37 not signed.
Removing the ability to scam people would cripple most of the goods exchange systems in the game, which would leave the market in a terribly dull state. Also, the amount of work that would have to go into it to make buying/selling stuff idiot proof, is unrealistic, and unnecessary.
players being more careful takes a lot less effort, and doesn't break anything.
Edit: a system to replace the bounty system will be coming in soonÖ Just write down the names and wait. .
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:12:00 -
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Edited by: drunkenmaster on 14/11/2004 00:17:37 not signed.
Removing the ability to scam people would cripple most of the goods exchange systems in the game, which would leave the market in a terribly dull state. Also, the amount of work that would have to go into it to make buying/selling stuff idiot proof, is unrealistic, and unnecessary.
players being more careful takes a lot less effort, and doesn't break anything.
Edit: a system to replace the bounty system will be coming in soonÖ Just write down the names and wait. .
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:17:00 -
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never ever Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:17:00 -
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never ever Wanna fly with me?
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Nabisco Lobstrosity
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:20:00 -
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Edited by: Nabisco Lobstrosity on 14/11/2004 00:26:55
Originally by: Silex D'Arden
Originally by: DigitalCommunist god damnit, i wanted to make the first post.
but I'll help with the petition anyways.. *unzips*
where do I sign? 
Sweet I just drank like a gallon of water, I'm ready to write an essay on the subject....
Hang on! This reminds me of the perfect slogan for this public interest group - "We moisten your dreams with man urine". How did the rest go? ...
"Won't you help? Just sign the petition and we moisten your dreams with man urine. Won't you help? I think I will ..."
*Nabisco also unzips his pants*
"Won't you help?" Eugh
Now sprinkle MY contribution on the children, so that they may dream. Can't you see what I'm doing here? I'm holding my own urine in a cup because I have responsiblities. Won't you help?
Ladies and gentlemen, if I could just have a moment of your time. Help us save stupid people, perhaps you, drop by precious drop. Because we're all the same yellow color inside. Thank you.
Only with your urine can we be curin', so get up and pee in a cup. . [color=red]!probe species -> class *Created remove(naturalGas) spcsArbtr * 01 Display("The Created walk among you")[/color] |

Nabisco Lobstrosity
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:20:00 -
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Edited by: Nabisco Lobstrosity on 14/11/2004 00:26:55
Originally by: Silex D'Arden
Originally by: DigitalCommunist god damnit, i wanted to make the first post.
but I'll help with the petition anyways.. *unzips*
where do I sign? 
Sweet I just drank like a gallon of water, I'm ready to write an essay on the subject....
Hang on! This reminds me of the perfect slogan for this public interest group - "We moisten your dreams with man urine". How did the rest go? ...
"Won't you help? Just sign the petition and we moisten your dreams with man urine. Won't you help? I think I will ..."
*Nabisco also unzips his pants*
"Won't you help?" Eugh
Now sprinkle MY contribution on the children, so that they may dream. Can't you see what I'm doing here? I'm holding my own urine in a cup because I have responsiblities. Won't you help?
Ladies and gentlemen, if I could just have a moment of your time. Help us save stupid people, perhaps you, drop by precious drop. Because we're all the same yellow color inside. Thank you.
Only with your urine can we be curin', so get up and pee in a cup. . [color=red]!probe species -> class *Created remove(naturalGas) spcsArbtr * 01 Display("The Created walk among you")[/color] |

Rex Mortalis
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:25:00 -
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Nabisco Lobstrosity, You have issues.
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Rex Mortalis
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:25:00 -
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Nabisco Lobstrosity, You have issues.
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MooKids
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:29:00 -
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Edited by: MooKids on 14/11/2004 00:32:35 Sure, I'll sign, as long as CCP also removes PVP and makes EVE a mining sim where we never come across any other player.
I love people who say not to post the opposing argument. If you don't want the opposition, don't post in the first place!
Honestly, it seems like people want to make EVE into yet another one of those hack and slash RPGs. If something comes along that requires some thinking or compromise, the carebear kiddies want it removed because it is unfair (e.g. hard). -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |

MooKids
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:29:00 -
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Edited by: MooKids on 14/11/2004 00:32:35 Sure, I'll sign, as long as CCP also removes PVP and makes EVE a mining sim where we never come across any other player.
I love people who say not to post the opposing argument. If you don't want the opposition, don't post in the first place!
Honestly, it seems like people want to make EVE into yet another one of those hack and slash RPGs. If something comes along that requires some thinking or compromise, the carebear kiddies want it removed because it is unfair (e.g. hard). -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |

Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:34:00 -
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PETITION TO MAKE LOGGING IN ILLEGAL!!!!!!
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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:34:00 -
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PETITION TO MAKE LOGGING IN ILLEGAL!!!!!!
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Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:41:00 -
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Edited by: Seto Mazzarotto on 14/11/2004 00:44:17 I vote against. Some of the escrow scams make me laugh.
Also: You get a frigging window that TELLS YOU WHAT YOU'RE GETTING, even IF you don't inspect your escrow, which you should do regardless.
Also, if you're talking about Market scams that use a pile of 1's to make the number shorter in length but in fact are at a ridiculous price, just pay attention to what you're doing.
EDIT: Why is 'kcarc' backwards censored? ----------- Fighting for the ideals of freespace, posthuman ethics, and rock & roll. |

Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:41:00 -
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Edited by: Seto Mazzarotto on 14/11/2004 00:44:17 I vote against. Some of the escrow scams make me laugh.
Also: You get a frigging window that TELLS YOU WHAT YOU'RE GETTING, even IF you don't inspect your escrow, which you should do regardless.
Also, if you're talking about Market scams that use a pile of 1's to make the number shorter in length but in fact are at a ridiculous price, just pay attention to what you're doing.
EDIT: Why is 'kcarc' backwards censored? ----------- Fighting for the ideals of freespace, posthuman ethics, and rock & roll. |
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:55:00 -
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DENIED
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.11.14 00:55:00 -
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DENIED
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Paddyman
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Posted - 2004.11.14 01:17:00 -
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no way jose,
scamming is part of eve, use some cop on and smarts and you'll be grand.
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Paddyman
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Posted - 2004.11.14 01:17:00 -
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no way jose,
scamming is part of eve, use some cop on and smarts and you'll be grand.
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Jorlin
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Posted - 2004.11.14 01:36:00 -
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i only scammed myself by switching the numbers for price and quantity on a trit buy order...and gratulated the seller fulfilling it before i could correct the mistake 
no police, no summons, no courts of law; no proper procedure, no rules of war; no mitigating circumstance; no lawyers fees, no second chance! |

Jorlin
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Posted - 2004.11.14 01:36:00 -
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i only scammed myself by switching the numbers for price and quantity on a trit buy order...and gratulated the seller fulfilling it before i could correct the mistake 
no police, no summons, no courts of law; no proper procedure, no rules of war; no mitigating circumstance; no lawyers fees, no second chance! |

Tuwile Naldai
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Posted - 2004.11.14 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Nabisco Lobstrosity Hang on! This reminds me of the perfect slogan for this public interest group - "We moisten your dreams with man urine". How did the rest go? ...
"Won't you help? Just sign the petition and we moisten your dreams with man urine. Won't you help? I think I will ..."
*Nabisco also unzips his pants*
"Won't you help?" Eugh
Now sprinkle MY contribution on the children, so that they may dream. Can't you see what I'm doing here? I'm holding my own urine in a cup because I have responsiblities. Won't you help?
Ladies and gentlemen, if I could just have a moment of your time. Help us save stupid people, perhaps you, drop by precious drop. Because we're all the same yellow color inside. Thank you.
Only with your urine can we be curin', so get up and pee in a cup.
How many times have you been told you're a genious? 
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Tuwile Naldai
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Posted - 2004.11.14 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Nabisco Lobstrosity Hang on! This reminds me of the perfect slogan for this public interest group - "We moisten your dreams with man urine". How did the rest go? ...
"Won't you help? Just sign the petition and we moisten your dreams with man urine. Won't you help? I think I will ..."
*Nabisco also unzips his pants*
"Won't you help?" Eugh
Now sprinkle MY contribution on the children, so that they may dream. Can't you see what I'm doing here? I'm holding my own urine in a cup because I have responsiblities. Won't you help?
Ladies and gentlemen, if I could just have a moment of your time. Help us save stupid people, perhaps you, drop by precious drop. Because we're all the same yellow color inside. Thank you.
Only with your urine can we be curin', so get up and pee in a cup.
How many times have you been told you're a genious? 
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Sochin
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Posted - 2004.11.14 02:32:00 -
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Somebody just bought a very expensive shuttle... 
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Sochin
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Posted - 2004.11.14 02:32:00 -
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Somebody just bought a very expensive shuttle... 
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Aion Amarra
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Posted - 2004.11.14 02:49:00 -
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Or the 'ultimate' Ibis Class frigate for only 21.111.111 Isk!
Neways, scamming is easy to avoid. It would be good to somehow 'filter out' scams, because they are utterly cluttering up the escrow. It would be much easier to find what you want if there weren't all these scams just doing nothing but getting in the way. I have got no clue how you could possibly 'filter' scams, but a search escrow function would be very, very useful.
(And the trading system for Lab/Factory slots ofcourse.)
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Aion Amarra
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Posted - 2004.11.14 02:49:00 -
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Or the 'ultimate' Ibis Class frigate for only 21.111.111 Isk!
Neways, scamming is easy to avoid. It would be good to somehow 'filter out' scams, because they are utterly cluttering up the escrow. It would be much easier to find what you want if there weren't all these scams just doing nothing but getting in the way. I have got no clue how you could possibly 'filter' scams, but a search escrow function would be very, very useful.
(And the trading system for Lab/Factory slots ofcourse.)
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Nervar
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Posted - 2004.11.14 03:09:00 -
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Go away
If you manage to get yourself scammed, youl need to bee pretty.. less smart -------------------------------------------------> What I look forward to is continued immaturity followed by death.
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Nervar
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Posted - 2004.11.14 03:09:00 -
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Go away
If you manage to get yourself scammed, youl need to bee pretty.. less smart -------------------------------------------------> What I look forward to is continued immaturity followed by death.
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Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.11.14 03:38:00 -
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OMGBUHU!!!
www.dark-cartel.com |

Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.11.14 03:38:00 -
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OMGBUHU!!!
www.dark-cartel.com |

Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2004.11.14 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: Trevedian BTW u got me hooked on the Peter Hamilton books Josh 
Peter Hamilton? As in the Sci-Fi author? Who is completely roxxor?
Josh, the more I get to know about you, the more I find myself liking you. 
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2004.11.14 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: Trevedian BTW u got me hooked on the Peter Hamilton books Josh 
Peter Hamilton? As in the Sci-Fi author? Who is completely roxxor?
Josh, the more I get to know about you, the more I find myself liking you. 
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juduzz
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Posted - 2004.11.14 08:05:00 -
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Not signed although maybe make it so you cant put an escrow up with out a desription,
see 20 nameless escrows is more annoying then some obvious scam ----------------------------------------------
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juduzz
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Posted - 2004.11.14 08:05:00 -
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Not signed although maybe make it so you cant put an escrow up with out a desription,
see 20 nameless escrows is more annoying then some obvious scam ----------------------------------------------
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mahhy
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Posted - 2004.11.14 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: Rex Mortalis We have all been scammed
I've yet to be scammed.
1.) Always inspect merchandise. Always. 2.) Always be very careful to check the price. 3.) Don't play eve drunk 
Not signed. Let the scammers do whatever they want. They know they're the scum of the world.
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mahhy
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Posted - 2004.11.14 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: Rex Mortalis We have all been scammed
I've yet to be scammed.
1.) Always inspect merchandise. Always. 2.) Always be very careful to check the price. 3.) Don't play eve drunk 
Not signed. Let the scammers do whatever they want. They know they're the scum of the world.
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Victoria Madison
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Posted - 2004.11.14 08:10:00 -
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You have to be...
a) Stupid b) Lazy c) Greedy d) Any of the above
...to be scammed in EVE.
Petition NOT signed.
Kisses, Victoria

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Victoria Madison
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Posted - 2004.11.14 08:10:00 -
[64]
You have to be...
a) Stupid b) Lazy c) Greedy d) Any of the above
...to be scammed in EVE.
Petition NOT signed.
Kisses, Victoria

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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.11.14 08:11:00 -
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If there was a player rating system and a option to block seeing escrows from either 1. people you blocked 2. peoploe below a certain escrow rating cause theres too much junk forcing real escrows off the listing ------------------------------------------------ Do not let the world change you. Change the world
Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the sa |

Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.11.14 08:11:00 -
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If there was a player rating system and a option to block seeing escrows from either 1. people you blocked 2. peoploe below a certain escrow rating cause theres too much junk forcing real escrows off the listing ------------------------------------------------ Do not let the world change you. Change the world
Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the sa |

Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2004.11.14 08:26:00 -
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Negotiator, your sig will give me nightmares. ----------- Fighting for the ideals of freespace, posthuman ethics, and rock & roll. |

Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2004.11.14 08:26:00 -
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Negotiator, your sig will give me nightmares. ----------- Fighting for the ideals of freespace, posthuman ethics, and rock & roll. |

Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.11.14 08:48:00 -
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Edited by: Viceroy on 14/11/2004 08:51:13 Haha. Not signed. In fact I'm going to start my own petition to make scamming easier out of spite for people who think they can sexually violate the game into a 100% safe mining sim/chat client to compensate for their own stupidity. kthxbye.
Quote: Please post a "signed" message to sign the petition and not post anything else in the topic, this is only a petiton,thanks.
What the hell does that mean anyway? "Hi I'd like to propose a stupid idea but i dont want any criticism so either agree with me or dont wake up the people who do agree"
Yeah that warning worked like a charm. -
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.11.14 08:48:00 -
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Edited by: Viceroy on 14/11/2004 08:51:13 Haha. Not signed. In fact I'm going to start my own petition to make scamming easier out of spite for people who think they can sexually violate the game into a 100% safe mining sim/chat client to compensate for their own stupidity. kthxbye.
Quote: Please post a "signed" message to sign the petition and not post anything else in the topic, this is only a petiton,thanks.
What the hell does that mean anyway? "Hi I'd like to propose a stupid idea but i dont want any criticism so either agree with me or dont wake up the people who do agree"
Yeah that warning worked like a charm. -
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.11.14 09:08:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Tatsue Nuko
Originally by: Trevedian BTW u got me hooked on the Peter Hamilton books Josh 
Peter Hamilton? As in the Sci-Fi author? Who is completely roxxor?
Josh, the more I get to know about you, the more I find myself liking you. 
Now that's a marked change from the usual pattern of things 
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.11.14 09:08:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Tatsue Nuko
Originally by: Trevedian BTW u got me hooked on the Peter Hamilton books Josh 
Peter Hamilton? As in the Sci-Fi author? Who is completely roxxor?
Josh, the more I get to know about you, the more I find myself liking you. 
Now that's a marked change from the usual pattern of things 
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Wrangler
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Posted - 2004.11.14 09:53:00 -
[73]
I think the black market agents are supposed to make scamming harder. 
[Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators] |

Wrangler
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Posted - 2004.11.14 09:53:00 -
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I think the black market agents are supposed to make scamming harder. 
[Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators] |

Xthril Ranger
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Posted - 2004.11.14 10:56:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Xthril Ranger on 14/11/2004 10:59:16
Originally by: Trevedian
BTW u got me hooked on the Peter Hamilton books Josh 
10 months left for our next fix 
Linkage
Edit: signed.
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Xthril Ranger
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Posted - 2004.11.14 10:56:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Xthril Ranger on 14/11/2004 10:59:16
Originally by: Trevedian
BTW u got me hooked on the Peter Hamilton books Josh 
10 months left for our next fix 
Linkage
Edit: signed.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.11.14 11:21:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Viceroy Edited by: Viceroy on 14/11/2004 08:51:13 Haha. Not signed. In fact I'm going to start my own petition to make scamming easier out of spite for people who think they can sexually violate the game into a 100% safe mining sim/chat client to compensate for their own stupidity. kthxbye.
Quote: Please post a "signed" message to sign the petition and not post anything else in the topic, this is only a petiton,thanks.
What the hell does that mean anyway? "Hi I'd like to propose a stupid idea but i dont want any criticism so either agree with me or dont wake up the people who do agree"
Yeah that warning worked like a charm.
Yeah never get why people try, it's a forum, place of discussion, not a good place to have a poll with only 1 possible answer. Oh and not signed. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |

Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.11.14 11:21:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Viceroy Edited by: Viceroy on 14/11/2004 08:51:13 Haha. Not signed. In fact I'm going to start my own petition to make scamming easier out of spite for people who think they can sexually violate the game into a 100% safe mining sim/chat client to compensate for their own stupidity. kthxbye.
Quote: Please post a "signed" message to sign the petition and not post anything else in the topic, this is only a petiton,thanks.
What the hell does that mean anyway? "Hi I'd like to propose a stupid idea but i dont want any criticism so either agree with me or dont wake up the people who do agree"
Yeah that warning worked like a charm.
Yeah never get why people try, it's a forum, place of discussion, not a good place to have a poll with only 1 possible answer. Oh and not signed. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |

MysticNZ
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Posted - 2004.11.14 11:26:00 -
[79]
Nup.
(\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |

MysticNZ
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Posted - 2004.11.14 11:26:00 -
[80]
Nup.
(\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |
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Skaz
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Posted - 2004.11.14 13:39:00 -
[81]
*sigh*
I don't know how often CCP has said that scamming IS and WILL CONTINUE to be a part of the EVE universe, so sorry this "petition" of yours is pointless.
Sure scamming is way too easy right now, but it's also really easy to spot.
What EVE needs is a sort of contract system, you know official docs and stuff, might even spice up the trade. Who knows what Shiva will bring though, like Wrangler said the black market system is supposed to change something 
"No, I'm not alt.....even if I have been in Pator Tech School for 2 years..." |

Skaz
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Posted - 2004.11.14 13:39:00 -
[82]
*sigh*
I don't know how often CCP has said that scamming IS and WILL CONTINUE to be a part of the EVE universe, so sorry this "petition" of yours is pointless.
Sure scamming is way too easy right now, but it's also really easy to spot.
What EVE needs is a sort of contract system, you know official docs and stuff, might even spice up the trade. Who knows what Shiva will bring though, like Wrangler said the black market system is supposed to change something 
"No, I'm not alt.....even if I have been in Pator Tech School for 2 years..." |

Aaron Rex
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Posted - 2004.11.14 14:04:00 -
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Edited by: Aaron Rex on 14/11/2004 14:08:55 I played for over a year before being scammed, but it finaly happened and I'm now a proud owner of a 10mill shuttle. This happened cos at the time I was very tired, in a hurry and not paying attention. My fault pure and simple. Sure I was a bit angry at first, not at the scammer, but at myself, though not for long. In fact, when I found out that the seller used his main (pirate) character in sted of an alt the little anger I had for him dissapeared.
Scamming (and being scammed) is part of Eve. Just like gate camping is. The more you remove it the less of a "surprise factor" you have in the game and the blander it gets. Now I can buy stuff off the market without having to pay attention since if I attempt to buy something at inflated prices I get a warning box. I can also jump through 0.4-0.1 systems hardly without worry since gate camping there is all but gone. It makes Eve a tad less interesting.
On a final note, how would you discriminate agains scams and rippoffs? For example with shuttles: Is a 20k shuttle a scam or someone trying to make an increased profit? What about 50k? 100k? 1mill? Where do you draw the line?
Pettition not signed
EDIT: Profanity replaced
Aaron Rex - Remember the Scordite... The Fated |

Aaron Rex
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Posted - 2004.11.14 14:04:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Aaron Rex on 14/11/2004 14:08:55 I played for over a year before being scammed, but it finaly happened and I'm now a proud owner of a 10mill shuttle. This happened cos at the time I was very tired, in a hurry and not paying attention. My fault pure and simple. Sure I was a bit angry at first, not at the scammer, but at myself, though not for long. In fact, when I found out that the seller used his main (pirate) character in sted of an alt the little anger I had for him dissapeared.
Scamming (and being scammed) is part of Eve. Just like gate camping is. The more you remove it the less of a "surprise factor" you have in the game and the blander it gets. Now I can buy stuff off the market without having to pay attention since if I attempt to buy something at inflated prices I get a warning box. I can also jump through 0.4-0.1 systems hardly without worry since gate camping there is all but gone. It makes Eve a tad less interesting.
On a final note, how would you discriminate agains scams and rippoffs? For example with shuttles: Is a 20k shuttle a scam or someone trying to make an increased profit? What about 50k? 100k? 1mill? Where do you draw the line?
Pettition not signed
EDIT: Profanity replaced
Aaron Rex - Remember the Scordite... The Fated |

OffBeaT
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Posted - 2004.11.14 17:29:00 -
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Edited by: OffBeaT on 14/11/2004 17:34:43 Edited by: OffBeaT on 14/11/2004 17:33:33 iv been scamed befor, its part of the game. like in life we just have too be on the look out for it. thou, i dont think you should beable too use a alt too do it.. if you commint a crime in eve the person you commited the offance too should have the right too track you down and get some payback if he can. using alts stops this from happening. total BS.. law can not be enforced proper in eve. im thinking a rating system is needed like on ebay where if you scam people and they report it too concord you get a -rating as a dealer of goods or even band from selling in certain systems. this is why i like the old system better. traders would police there own and report too others of scames on the trade channle. one trade channle is all that was needed. easyer too keep a eye on scamers.
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OffBeaT
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Posted - 2004.11.14 17:29:00 -
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Edited by: OffBeaT on 14/11/2004 17:34:43 Edited by: OffBeaT on 14/11/2004 17:33:33 iv been scamed befor, its part of the game. like in life we just have too be on the look out for it. thou, i dont think you should beable too use a alt too do it.. if you commint a crime in eve the person you commited the offance too should have the right too track you down and get some payback if he can. using alts stops this from happening. total BS.. law can not be enforced proper in eve. im thinking a rating system is needed like on ebay where if you scam people and they report it too concord you get a -rating as a dealer of goods or even band from selling in certain systems. this is why i like the old system better. traders would police there own and report too others of scames on the trade channle. one trade channle is all that was needed. easyer too keep a eye on scamers.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.11.14 18:34:00 -
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Read what you are buying. If it is too good to be true it probably is. Even if it seems normal read what you are buying. I have sold shuttles for 5 million I hold the isk for one month then give the isk back. It's hilarious you should try it.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.11.14 18:34:00 -
[88]
Read what you are buying. If it is too good to be true it probably is. Even if it seems normal read what you are buying. I have sold shuttles for 5 million I hold the isk for one month then give the isk back. It's hilarious you should try it.
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Edoo
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Posted - 2004.11.14 18:46:00 -
[89]
well... i'd hate to be scammed, but at least it makes it more realistic. I don't agree sorry.
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Edoo
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Posted - 2004.11.14 18:46:00 -
[90]
well... i'd hate to be scammed, but at least it makes it more realistic. I don't agree sorry.
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2004.11.15 01:15:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Joshua Calvert Now that's a marked change from the usual pattern of things 
Just don't let it get to your head, I'm already spoken for. 
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2004.11.15 01:15:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Joshua Calvert Now that's a marked change from the usual pattern of things 
Just don't let it get to your head, I'm already spoken for. 
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Valrandir
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Posted - 2004.11.15 01:18:00 -
[93]
Edited by: Valrandir on 15/11/2004 01:27:24 Let's not, because
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=123404
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Valrandir
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Posted - 2004.11.15 01:18:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Valrandir on 15/11/2004 01:27:24 Let's not, because
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=123404
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.11.15 01:53:00 -
[95]
So to sum this thread up, WORST idea ever (said with the voice of the comic book guy in Simpsons). __________ Capacitor research |

Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.11.15 01:53:00 -
[96]
So to sum this thread up, WORST idea ever (said with the voice of the comic book guy in Simpsons). __________ Capacitor research |

Elexia Sly
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Posted - 2004.11.15 01:56:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Nabisco Lobstrosity Edited by: Nabisco Lobstrosity on 14/11/2004 00:26:55
Originally by: Silex D'Arden
Originally by: DigitalCommunist god damnit, i wanted to make the first post.
but I'll help with the petition anyways.. *unzips*
where do I sign? 
Sweet I just drank like a gallon of water, I'm ready to write an essay on the subject....
Hang on! This reminds me of the perfect slogan for this public interest group - "We moisten your dreams with man urine". How did the rest go? ...
"Won't you help? Just sign the petition and we moisten your dreams with man urine. Won't you help? I think I will ..."
*Nabisco also unzips his pants*
"Won't you help?" Eugh
Now sprinkle MY contribution on the children, so that they may dream. Can't you see what I'm doing here? I'm holding my own urine in a cup because I have responsiblities. Won't you help?
Ladies and gentlemen, if I could just have a moment of your time. Help us save stupid people, perhaps you, drop by precious drop. Because we're all the same yellow color inside. Thank you.
Only with your urine can we be curin', so get up and pee in a cup.
Holy crap, thats funny. I'd like to contribute, but I think I just pee'd my pants.....Wait....gimme that cup...I'll go ring'em out. 
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Elexia Sly
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Posted - 2004.11.15 01:56:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Nabisco Lobstrosity Edited by: Nabisco Lobstrosity on 14/11/2004 00:26:55
Originally by: Silex D'Arden
Originally by: DigitalCommunist god damnit, i wanted to make the first post.
but I'll help with the petition anyways.. *unzips*
where do I sign? 
Sweet I just drank like a gallon of water, I'm ready to write an essay on the subject....
Hang on! This reminds me of the perfect slogan for this public interest group - "We moisten your dreams with man urine". How did the rest go? ...
"Won't you help? Just sign the petition and we moisten your dreams with man urine. Won't you help? I think I will ..."
*Nabisco also unzips his pants*
"Won't you help?" Eugh
Now sprinkle MY contribution on the children, so that they may dream. Can't you see what I'm doing here? I'm holding my own urine in a cup because I have responsiblities. Won't you help?
Ladies and gentlemen, if I could just have a moment of your time. Help us save stupid people, perhaps you, drop by precious drop. Because we're all the same yellow color inside. Thank you.
Only with your urine can we be curin', so get up and pee in a cup.
Holy crap, thats funny. I'd like to contribute, but I think I just pee'd my pants.....Wait....gimme that cup...I'll go ring'em out. 
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2004.11.15 02:00:00 -
[99]
Signed!
Scamming & Ore thieving MUST GO CCP! ------------------------------------------------ "for piece sakes!" |

Bhaal
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Posted - 2004.11.15 02:00:00 -
[100]
Signed!
Scamming & Ore thieving MUST GO CCP! ------------------------------------------------ "for piece sakes!" |
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Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2004.11.15 02:10:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Bhaal Signed!
Scamming & Ore thieving MUST GO CCP!
Please don't forget to sign on corp thieves, pirates, warmongers and playerkillers in general.
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Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2004.11.15 02:10:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Bhaal Signed!
Scamming & Ore thieving MUST GO CCP!
Please don't forget to sign on corp thieves, pirates, warmongers and playerkillers in general.
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Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.11.15 03:30:00 -
[103]
Petition: Completely remove CONCORD, Sentry Guns and Faction Navies.
Please say 'signed' below in this post. If you dont agree you are not allowed to post, and will be damned to eternal hellfire by whatever diety that you worship.
100% of people want this THEY MUST GO, CCP! -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |

Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.11.15 03:30:00 -
[104]
Petition: Completely remove CONCORD, Sentry Guns and Faction Navies.
Please say 'signed' below in this post. If you dont agree you are not allowed to post, and will be damned to eternal hellfire by whatever diety that you worship.
100% of people want this THEY MUST GO, CCP! -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |

meowcat
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Posted - 2004.11.15 09:54:00 -
[105]
the problem isn't the scamming, its the fact that 99.99% of scammers are alts.
There is no accountability - i could log in now and make 2 alts, and set up 50 scams on each one, and nobody would know who was actually responsible...

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yeah but no but yeah but no but |

meowcat
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Posted - 2004.11.15 09:54:00 -
[106]
the problem isn't the scamming, its the fact that 99.99% of scammers are alts.
There is no accountability - i could log in now and make 2 alts, and set up 50 scams on each one, and nobody would know who was actually responsible...

~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~
yeah but no but yeah but no but |

Avon
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Posted - 2004.11.15 10:03:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Aaron Rex Edited by: Aaron Rex on 14/11/2004 14:08:55 I played for over a year before being scammed, but it finaly happened and I'm now a proud owner of a 10mill shuttle. This happened cos at the time I was very tired, in a hurry and not paying attention. My fault pure and simple. Sure I was a bit angry at first, not at the scammer, but at myself, though not for long. In fact, when I found out that the seller used his main (pirate) character in sted of an alt the little anger I had for him dissapeared.
Scamming (and being scammed) is part of Eve. Just like gate camping is. The more you remove it the less of a "surprise factor" you have in the game and the blander it gets. Now I can buy stuff off the market without having to pay attention since if I attempt to buy something at inflated prices I get a warning box. I can also jump through 0.4-0.1 systems hardly without worry since gate camping there is all but gone. It makes Eve a tad less interesting.
On a final note, how would you discriminate agains scams and rippoffs? For example with shuttles: Is a 20k shuttle a scam or someone trying to make an increased profit? What about 50k? 100k? 1mill? Where do you draw the line?
Pettition not signed
EDIT: Profanity replaced
/me checks his wallet... ______________________________________________
Never argue with idiots. They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |

Avon
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Posted - 2004.11.15 10:03:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Aaron Rex Edited by: Aaron Rex on 14/11/2004 14:08:55 I played for over a year before being scammed, but it finaly happened and I'm now a proud owner of a 10mill shuttle. This happened cos at the time I was very tired, in a hurry and not paying attention. My fault pure and simple. Sure I was a bit angry at first, not at the scammer, but at myself, though not for long. In fact, when I found out that the seller used his main (pirate) character in sted of an alt the little anger I had for him dissapeared.
Scamming (and being scammed) is part of Eve. Just like gate camping is. The more you remove it the less of a "surprise factor" you have in the game and the blander it gets. Now I can buy stuff off the market without having to pay attention since if I attempt to buy something at inflated prices I get a warning box. I can also jump through 0.4-0.1 systems hardly without worry since gate camping there is all but gone. It makes Eve a tad less interesting.
On a final note, how would you discriminate agains scams and rippoffs? For example with shuttles: Is a 20k shuttle a scam or someone trying to make an increased profit? What about 50k? 100k? 1mill? Where do you draw the line?
Pettition not signed
EDIT: Profanity replaced
/me checks his wallet... ______________________________________________
Never argue with idiots. They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
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