Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 [7] 8 9 10 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 15:08:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Dah' Khanid You lost that fight when you chose the worst possible of 3 options. You could have lowered jammer, bridged in on manual cyno on POS to load system and grid. You could have used regular jumpbridge to enter system and load grid. But instead, your FC wanted you to go through a small gate with us set up at optimals on, a gate that was perfect to bomb you on also which netted us the 100~ or so first kills. Even if there had been 0 lag, the result would have been the same. WI fleet was actively making warpins, hostiles were definitely firing back. We'll see you out there again, at this rate of getting fights we don't even have to take an inch of :geminate:
It's easier to blame lag than admit they are terrible at e-spaceships, leave them to it
----------
~bitter dog~
etc |
Twyce Nyetlee
Gallente The 5th Freedom Wildly Inappropriate.
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 15:09:00 -
[182]
I must say that besides the lag, the onlining of the SBU's sounds like an absolute horrible experience..lol 3 hours of gate camping...yay waiting for an engagement..yay
and not to mention having to come back again for additional timers..yay
and yes the timers are there so we can get troops in place. It sounds like if we just take the 3 hours to get them in place enemies may just leave out of boredom.
|
Lrrp
Minmatar The Graduates Morsus Mihi
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 15:13:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Malcanis I'll take lag over that any day.
So you'll take sitting in a ship that can't move, can't turn mods on and can't fire? Then watch as as your ship then your pod gets destroyed? Me? I'd rather take my chances with the old Titans DD'ing me. One thing I do know, I won't be jumping thru a gate where large fleets are involved until CCP does it's job and fixes problem.
|
Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 15:16:00 -
[184]
Originally by: hantwo
incorrect, i would like my skill points to count in a battle
Malcanis just owned you and your petty, illogical arguements, fyi
also you might want to take a look at what SP actually does before making a crazy comment like the one I've quoted
not than I expect any better from semi-active bitter PL vets, hurry up and quit so we can be spared the endless whines
----------
~bitter dog~
etc |
Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 15:23:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Lrrp
Originally by: Malcanis I'll take lag over that any day.
So you'll take sitting in a ship that can't move, can't turn mods on and can't fire? Then watch as as your ship then your pod gets destroyed? Me? I'd rather take my chances with the old Titans DD'ing me. One thing I do know, I won't be jumping thru a gate where large fleets are involved until CCP does it's job and fixes problem.
If only there was some other way to get into a system. Or at the very least some way to know when you needed to be there.
|
Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 15:24:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Lrrp
One thing I do know, I won't be jumping thru a gate where large fleets are involved until CCP does it's job and fixes problem.
lolz
the point is that you didn't HAVE to jump through a single heavily camped gate into your certain death - you could have lowered the jammer and bridged in (setting off multiple cynos as decoys at deathstars if you are feeling paranoid about bombers), but you chose the worst possible option and one that would have led to the same result even with zero lag
some people work with the lag, some people win depsite it... others are lazy and/or stupid, or just plain terrible, and they get what they deserve - making threads about it doesnt stop it being something you can mitigate against, if you were not terrible at playing the game
----------
~bitter dog~
etc |
hantwo
Amarr S.A.S Pandemic Legion
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 15:37:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Dah' Khanid You lost that fight when you chose the worst possible of 3 options. You could have lowered jammer, bridged in on manual cyno on POS to load system and grid. You could have used regular jumpbridge to enter system and load grid. But instead, your FC wanted you to go through a small gate with us set up at optimals on, a gate that was perfect to bomb you on also which netted us the 100~ or so first kills. Even if there had been 0 lag, the result would have been the same. WI fleet was actively making warpins, hostiles were definitely firing back. We'll see you out there again, at this rate of getting fights we don't even have to take an inch of :geminate:
It's easier to blame lag than admit they are terrible at e-spaceships, leave them to it
Nice White Knight
--------- Why me eh? |
Twyce Nyetlee
Gallente The 5th Freedom Wildly Inappropriate.
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 15:38:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Lrrp
One thing I do know, I won't be jumping thru a gate where large fleets are involved until CCP does it's job and fixes problem.
lolz
the point is that you didn't HAVE to jump through a single heavily camped gate into your certain death - you could have lowered the jammer and bridged in (setting off multiple cynos as decoys at deathstars if you are feeling paranoid about bombers), but you chose the worst possible option and one that would have led to the same result even with zero lag
some people work with the lag, some people win depsite it... others are lazy and/or stupid, or just plain terrible, and they get what they deserve - making threads about it doesnt stop it being something you can mitigate against, if you were not terrible at playing the game
yes lower the jammer and see enemy capitals on standbye jump in that sounds fantastic. Im sure atlas was just waiting for that.
lag is something that is bearable, this was a complete collapse
|
God's Army
Gallente Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 15:54:00 -
[189]
I heard bobby still taking care of his sexy nipples. C/D? --
Interstellar eXodus and f***ing Proud!
+BricK sQuAD½ ex. ROADKILL ex. Stain Alliance ex. Stain Empire
|
Riedle
Minmatar Raptus Regalitor Black Legion.
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 15:58:00 -
[190]
Originally by: blazeyadeadhommie Just wanted to say GF. Thank you atlas for bring the fight to us. Also would like to give a BIG HAND to CCP for ****ing up again.I am never disapointed by you and would like to congratulate you on your newest failure that is dominion. You have really out done yourselves this time. That was the first time i have ever been pod'd with out ever leaving my ship. You guys are the BEST. (CLAPPING)I can't wait to see whats next.
You again eh? lol. Well my alliance is blue to Atlas so hopefully I can finally get my revenge on you.
;)
Linkage for backstory
|
|
CobraXero
Caldari Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 16:05:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Malcanis
Right, because in your world, Titans really reduced the size of blobs? EvE was a magical fantasy world of 20vs20 fights until that terrible day of December 1st 2009? Morsus Mihi were well known for their small, tightly co-ordinated fleets, and disdained to bring numbers they didn't need, what with all those Titans they had.?
No, wait, you're just a member of an alliance which has forgotten how to fight without your Titans doomsdaying every gang of 3 or more coming through the Taisy gate.
All these tears about lag... yeah the lag is bad, but stop making excuses. Lag affects everybody. Deal with it - there are ways, accept that you will take some losses, and fight.
Or stay safe in your POS shields and whine about how this is all CCP's fault, while other alliances are getting out there and getting on with it. Your choice, really.
Mal, dont get me wrong, i am playing this game already longer than you are allowed to use a computer. I didnt loose a single tear over a lost fight about a system at all, i just wanted to drive the tread more into a direction showing the current problems. I miss those times where you actually checked caod about the political landscape and whats going on, not like today when all you can read here is "x blobbed y" and personal threats like 13 year olds that can't even spell correctly in their own language. I aint a fan of Blobs either, friendly or hostile, and look back to the times when 20 vs. 20 was "awesome" and made it on caod as breaking news I went a long way with EvE's community, and i can tell you it's getting worse every day. So let's try and have a productive discussion about EvE's problems, and how its possible to fix them. But maybe we should take that to another forum, coad is full of clowns
C. I went to Delve, and all i got was a crappy BoB T-Shirt ...
|
Biosman
Caldari Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 16:17:00 -
[192]
The sad thing is there SHOULD be blobs,blobs are meant to happen, Gargantuan fleets 300-1000 ships each side dukeing out for space. Imagine all the mechanics working as it should do,allowing the kind of battle experience on a scale never witnessed. Waves of intercepters and dictors followed by Hacs Battleships slugging it out long range and Battlecruisers medium. The dreads,Eves armoured corps)hotdropping,carriers and even...titans all on the grid in an all out do or die situation for 10 alliances and coalition dominance....
Meanwhile on a laggy gate somewhere in Eve....#2345 in queue
|
michael weels
Gallente D00M. Triumvirate.
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 16:21:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Endeva Good job atlas. dont listen those NC failures making execuses why they are sucha fail in pvp. same happend to them in pb. go atlas <3
Guess who's paying how much to Me now? =P
|
Astal Atlar
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 16:54:00 -
[194]
Quote: yes lower the jammer and see enemy capitals on standbye jump in that sounds fantastic. Im sure atlas was just waiting for that.
Yeah like you don't have spies in atlas or your allies and we never formed capitals you waited 3 full hours to figure that and gatehr all your blob. Dah told you your fc failed,you had several options,worse choice made = death. It was fun lag was managable I am just mad served didn't generate like 100+ of our kills,but the fraps and ect show the carnage quiet well.
|
Ur235
Gallente Feudum Chalybis Primary.
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 17:08:00 -
[195]
Fail NC ftw?
|
Twyce Nyetlee
Gallente The 5th Freedom Wildly Inappropriate.
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 17:12:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Astal Atlar
Quote: yes lower the jammer and see enemy capitals on standbye jump in that sounds fantastic. Im sure atlas was just waiting for that.
Yeah like you don't have spies in atlas or your allies and we never formed capitals you waited 3 full hours to figure that and gatehr all your blob. Dah told you your fc failed,you had several options,worse choice made = death. It was fun lag was managable I am just mad served didn't generate like 100+ of our kills,but the fraps and ect show the carnage quiet well.
we can wait 3 hours we are defending remember. The nice part about timers is we determine when to come. Be mad at ccp they designed it this way.
|
Kar Stoertebecker
Minmatar Eye of God Wildly Inappropriate.
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 17:38:00 -
[197]
Planning a large fleet fight? Please let us know http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=940053
so for me it is easy Atlas is not searching for good fights they like to kill stuff and what is more easy then kill ppl jumping in a laged system well done Bobby Friends One Round for you
to ccp Have a nice Vacation
cu on lagfield Kar
|
Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 17:50:00 -
[198]
Edited by: Malcanis on 16/12/2009 17:52:58
Originally by: CobraXero
Originally by: Malcanis
Right, because in your world, Titans really reduced the size of blobs? EvE was a magical fantasy world of 20vs20 fights until that terrible day of December 1st 2009? Morsus Mihi were well known for their small, tightly co-ordinated fleets, and disdained to bring numbers they didn't need, what with all those Titans they had.?
No, wait, you're just a member of an alliance which has forgotten how to fight without your Titans doomsdaying every gang of 3 or more coming through the Taisy gate.
All these tears about lag... yeah the lag is bad, but stop making excuses. Lag affects everybody. Deal with it - there are ways, accept that you will take some losses, and fight.
Or stay safe in your POS shields and whine about how this is all CCP's fault, while other alliances are getting out there and getting on with it. Your choice, really.
Mal, dont get me wrong, i am playing this game already longer than you are allowed to use a computer...
[Changing the subject and whinging about CAOD omitted]
Ah, you've been playing since 1982? Gratz. That certainly gives you the right to try and patronise your way out of a corner
All I'm saying here are the plain facts: it was your system to defend. You had every advantage: there was no difficulty faced by you that we did not also have to deal with, and with less resources, longer supply routes, fewer people, less - many less supercaps, a station in system, etc etc etc. Your coalition failed to capitalise on any of those advantages because it couldn't come up with any better plan than "form a huge blob in EL8 and then hope that TRI/PA/INIT/CO2 stop shooting the JC- station in order to jump through a gate, for no reason whatsoever" Well OK stuff happens, I realise you're probably just a grunt and what's happening is not the way you would like things to be, but there it is: you wear the alliance ticker, so that means you accept that you're associated with them.
But when you start to say terrible things like "oh if only titans could grid-DD again then everything would be fine", sorry buddy, I have to call you on talking complete bull****. And it is bull****. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it. MM relied heavily on doomsdaying everything and ultrablobbing whatever was left, and now those options are gone, you guys have no working fleet doctrine. You'll have to lrn2fleetfight all over again. Once you've done so, you will be a better alliance for it.
My personal advice would be to start sooner rather than later. I wish you the best of luck.
EDIT: Added to which, if my analysis above differs substantially in substance (if not tone) from what is being said on your own alliance forums, I would be greatly surprised.
|
Gehnster
Gallente Domini Umbrus DEFI4NT
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 17:53:00 -
[199]
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=940053
Have you guys used that? Just wondering. If so, I guess it hasn't helped and that is a shame. After knowing a few big fights have happened in the same general area though I would have thought CCP taken the hint by now and done something about it.
|
Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 18:27:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Twyce Nyetlee
yes lower the jammer and see enemy capitals on standbye jump in that sounds fantastic. Im sure atlas was just waiting for that.
ohnoes capitals
don't you, ME, MM, and RZR combined have a larger cap fleet than atlas? why would you be scared about that?
----------
~bitter dog~
etc |
|
Natasha Bonnet
Amarr The Republic of Sovereignty
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 18:36:00 -
[201]
Keeping this post short and sweet.
CCP brings in over 4.5m dollars a year. A metric crap ton is used for advertising, employee's (who make the game 'better'), and the server updates every once in a blue moon.
CCP is wanting to move the mass of ppl in high sec into 0.0 (hence the spawning sites). They also (mentioned above) bring in new players via advertising (server set a record not to long ago with 54k on server at once). Yet the server itself is still the same dinosoar.
WHY DO WE THINK THAT LAG IS ACCEPTIBLE?
Game has been around since 2003, lag has held it's hand till now. 2006-2007 was rlly bad, and then CCP made it bearable. (if you read between the lines, that means that 2008 was the ONLY decent year of 'bearable' lag).
What many fail to relize is that DOMINION came out, and alot of ppl joined in EVE. Thus bogging down the server... again.
Atlas shooting at ghosts targets is lame. NC's screens not loading is lame.
Look at the browser. You would use a few months ago? Yea, no one. And now it works a charm. THANK YOU CCP FOR PROVING MY POINT.
A few months ago ppl said that the browser was worthless and would never be fixed. Why? CAUSE IT WAS LIKE THAT SINCE THE BEGINNING.
So, planet interfacing comes out next for the upcoming 'Dust 514' next winter. Woot? More stuff, yay? CCP, plz fix what you have now so we can actually ENJOY what you give us. The sov system is great (screwed up on caps, but that is what happens when given to someone who doesnt know exactly what he is doing [still cant target paint a phoenix]).
I would rather all the added stuff be put on hold if it meant an awsome server coming out that we could compare the old and new browser to. It is time to stop making excuses for CCP and for CCP to stop makeing excuses, period. You have our money, and we dont pay for the game cause of what there is right now- but because we expect the future to be better than the present. And the #1 eve- wide complaint for YEARS IS LAGG.
(OH, you also fixed jita [you know, the system that would always lag cause that is how it has been since the beginning?])
|
Twyce Nyetlee
Gallente The 5th Freedom Wildly Inappropriate.
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 18:37:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Twyce Nyetlee
yes lower the jammer and see enemy capitals on standbye jump in that sounds fantastic. Im sure atlas was just waiting for that.
ohnoes capitals
don't you, ME, MM, and RZR combined have a larger cap fleet than atlas? why would you be scared about that?
Im sure we do but with the grid fail im glad we didnt bring them or you could have added a ton of cap losses as well
|
Jinn Kast
Caldari modro Gentlemen's Club
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 18:54:00 -
[203]
so many tears......so few tissues
|
Gokil
Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 18:55:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Natasha Bonnet Keeping this post short and sweet.
|
Natasha Bonnet
Amarr The Republic of Sovereignty
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 18:57:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Gokil
Originally by: Natasha Bonnet Keeping this post short and sweet.
You want me to go longer? I dont think the forms give me enough room to do so
|
Joao Duarte
Minmatar Fat J Wildly Inappropriate.
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 19:25:00 -
[206]
Let's bring all our fleets to Jita once every week. I'm sure that would prove a point.
|
Svetlanna
Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 20:00:00 -
[207]
Lag is a negative concept invented by players since 2003, greatly developped during all those years of Eve playing attempts, and which only goal is to disrupt the montlhy income and business plan of CCP, and discredit the named respectable company. So, please, stop inventing and posting about this Goonstyle propaganda regarding something that none of us has ever experienced.
|
InnerDrive
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 20:05:00 -
[208]
Originally by: Vlajko san It's not lag. Lag is something we are used to for years. This is something completely different. This just doesn't work, and that is that. I've been (or tried to be) in at least 10 larger fleet engagements since the Dominion, and every single one of them ended in 1 of 3 ways:
1. We jump in and get afk-slaughtered not being able to load system at all. 2. Enemies jump in and we afk-slaughter them without them being able to do anything. 3. NOD crashes and both sides spend a couple of hours trying to get back in game.
This is getting really old, really fast, while CCP not only ignores the problem, but doesn't even want's to recognize it's existence. If nothing is done about this very soon, this could as well be the end of Eve as we know it.
i usualy never post on here , but this is a issue very near to my heart, i cant say it better exactly like he said it its like that. Fix it ccp and stop acting like theres no out of the ordinary issue
|
Jamus Gorrelius
Amarr Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 20:10:00 -
[209]
have to agree with everything, were expected to have large engagements with the new sov changes but we are unable to, if accepted there was a problem then we would be half way there.
But instead they choose to ignore the issues, this real'y needs to be sorted or fleet engagements will stop, which means less fighting and we will stagnate and die in the end.
Could we have a reply here please CCP?
|
blazeyadeadhommie
Minmatar Divine Power. Wildly Inappropriate.
|
Posted - 2009.12.16 20:25:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Riedle
Originally by: blazeyadeadhommie Just wanted to say GF. Thank you atlas for bring the fight to us. Also would like to give a BIG HAND to CCP for ****ing up again.I am never disapointed by you and would like to congratulate you on your newest failure that is dominion. You have really out done yourselves this time. That was the first time i have ever been pod'd with out ever leaving my ship. You guys are the BEST. (CLAPPING)I can't wait to see whats next.
You again eh? lol. Well my alliance is blue to Atlas so hopefully I can finally get my revenge on you.
;) ROFLMAO, You still holding on to that. Linkage for backstory
|
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 [7] 8 9 10 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |