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Garresh
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.12.16 10:25:00 -
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I'm trying to create a list of all the things you can do in Eve that you can turn a profit on, and incorporate all the different playstyles that are out there. The reason for this is to really show what makes Eve so different from other MMOs. So I'm throwing this list out here in the hope that people will suggest anything I might have missed, or call bull**** on anything that isn't as profitable as I'd thought. Without further ado: Eve Profession Listings: Mission Running/Plexing Ratting Mining Hauling Production Research Exploration Piracy High Sec Piracy -canflipping -suicide ganking Ninja Salvaging Solo Infiltration(asset theft) Corporate Infiltration/Espionage(information selling/asset theft) Covops scouting for corporations(I've seen forum ads for this...not sure as to profitibility) Drug Smuggling 0.0 warfare/territory holding Mercenary work for corporations Extended stay in W-space via a POS Renting/selling of corporate assets -Jump Clones -POS research facilities Margin Trading Investment Speculation Scamming Factional Warfare
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Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.12.16 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Garresh
Ninja Salvaging
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Originally by: Tiberizzle
Originally by: Aloe Cloveris nyoro~n <:3c
lol wtf is this emoticon
it looks like you are sodomizing a yard gnome
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.12.16 11:35:00 -
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Don't commodify my fun please 
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Tirus Sinobi
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Posted - 2009.12.16 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank Don't commodify my fun please 
I didnt see "being a forum spacktard" on there so I think your safe
Seriously though:
You should truncate the list a little, some of the things on there are not professions, just things you can do, and if your making a list of things you can do in EVE then you will be here a loooong time.
For example High-sec Piracy and Piracy are the same profession, the location is not a factor in determining it as a profession its still just piracy regardless of where it happens.
Ninja salvaging and salvaging are again the same profession, the situation in which the profession is carried out is not a factor.
Hope this helps you get a little consistency in there, also a space between your post and the list might be well received by the eyes. |

Garresh
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.12.16 11:51:00 -
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I'll try and truncate it tomorrow after my final, but I'm too tired and jittery from pre-exam insomnia to make any notable changes right now. If I try, they'll turn out bad.
Anyways, the reason I make seperate notes for each of these things is that they tend to have different playstyles.
Piracy in high sec tends be unique because high-sec pirates tend to focus on how best to either avoid concordokken or manipulate players into angrily exposing themselves to retaliation, or even concordokkening themselves.
Lowsec/Nullsec pirates focus on bubble camps, smartbombing, or a variety of tools which do not apply in high-sec, and generally just try and have the tools to kill everyone that comes through, and focus less on "max alpha" and more on preventing escape.
I guess I'm trying to distinguish different playstyles, and to my knowledge all of these things can make money, but anyways...I'll come back here tomorrow and edit the crap out of it.
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dethleffs
SCHG
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Posted - 2009.12.16 12:02:00 -
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prolly a bit of a time consuming thing to do, but if you want to make this an awesome post, try to link some tutorials/posts about the different playstyles/occupations.
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.12.16 12:04:00 -
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Forum warrior ---
Even though you might disagree with what I say, that doesn't automatically make me a troll. |

Tirus Sinobi
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Posted - 2009.12.16 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Garresh I'll try and truncate it tomorrow after my final, but I'm too tired and jittery from pre-exam insomnia to make any notable changes right now. If I try, they'll turn out bad.
Anyways, the reason I make seperate notes for each of these things is that they tend to have different playstyles.
Piracy in high sec tends be unique because high-sec pirates tend to focus on how best to either avoid concordokken or manipulate players into angrily exposing themselves to retaliation, or even concordokkening themselves.
Lowsec/Nullsec pirates focus on bubble camps, smartbombing, or a variety of tools which do not apply in high-sec, and generally just try and have the tools to kill everyone that comes through, and focus less on "max alpha" and more on preventing escape.
I guess I'm trying to distinguish different playstyles, and to my knowledge all of these things can make money, but anyways...I'll come back here tomorrow and edit the crap out of it.
If you want to distinguish different playstyles use sub categories and formatting otherwise its just going to be a list of EVE related words.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.12.16 12:13:00 -
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Garresh, truncating it isn't the way to go. My first reply was implying there's so much more to the possibilities in this game than a simple list would suggest. However, I appreciate the effort. This could be developed into something useful with the understanding that professions in eve aren't always clearly defined.
Like you say you are trying to define playstyles...
There's a world of difference between low sec piracy and high sec 'piracy'. the danger of lumping the two together is down to playstyle indeed. Low sec pirates rely on ransoming pilots for income, something high sec 'pirates' rarely do since the only real opportunity they have is to ransom people they have tricked into agressing.... and its a one-time only chance to rip off some carebear miner/mission runner, doesn't matter if you dishonour a ransom there since they are unlikely to be tricked into aggression anyway.
Further, salvaging and ninja salvaging are two different professions using the same mechanic.
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Cors
It's A Trap
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Posted - 2009.12.16 12:32:00 -
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You're missing Slacker from your list. Many people in my corp are self styled slackers.
addtionally... can stealing
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
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Posted - 2009.12.16 13:33:00 -
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Auditing Mineral compression consultation (see below for details) Insurance fraud Lotteries Contract camping Datacore farming Alliance creation Temporary standings amelioration Third party / escrow services Moon mining / reacting / alchemy Docking fees / office rents / refinery taxes Selling Alliance Tournament slots
--- 34.4:1 mineral compression |

Zothike
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.16 13:49:00 -
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Edited by: Zothike on 16/12/2009 13:50:08 recruitement officer
Jump clones ? how it is a profession ?
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Ivana Twinkle
Amarr Polytechnique Gallenteenne
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Posted - 2009.12.16 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Zothike Edited by: Zothike on 16/12/2009 13:50:08 recruitement officer
Jump clones ? how it is a profession ?
if have a corporation selling jump clones to people. Thats a profession i guess
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
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Posted - 2009.12.16 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ivana Twinkle
Originally by: Zothike Edited by: Zothike on 16/12/2009 13:50:08 recruitement officer
Jump clones ? how it is a profession ?
if have a corporation selling jump clones to people. Thats a profession i guess
Also an interesting sideline of income for Rorqual / mothership pilots. --- 34.4:1 mineral compression |

w1ndstrike
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Posted - 2009.12.16 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Garresh
Covops scouting for corporations(I've seen forum ads for this...not sure as to profitibility)
Quite profitable, even if it requires a specialized set of tools, usually (or at least in the case of my own services) goes hand-in-hand with hauling important but small volume items through dangerous territory.
general requirements for the profession are a covops ship, though a null-sub T3 is best if you're doing it for small lowsec or noSec corps.
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Karmic Enigma
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Posted - 2009.12.16 15:05:00 -
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to help you: Mission Running and Plexing is rarther diferent, as one you need to explore...
so: - Explorer -> Explorer of K-Space -> Explorer of W-Space
"Extended stay in W-space via a POS" is not a profession, explorer is.
Also, inside Explorer, you can add Industry (from mining to building T1/T3 ships), plexing, military (piracy included).
So, in term of WH, explorer would be the most adequate thing, with some specs.
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Bruh'n Orellux
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Posted - 2009.12.16 16:43:00 -
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Edited by: Bruh''n Orellux on 16/12/2009 16:45:35
Interesting topic, as I wonder what's out there that I'm unaware of. Here's my version. I left stuff out that I'm not too familiar with (especially industry). It's also kind of hard to categorize certain things since they can fall under multiple categories and some are more of a means to an end, rather than an end itself.
PvP
- Piracy - Anti-Piracy - Factional Warfare - Mercenary Work - 0.0 Occupancy/Warfare - Bounty Hunting (dead profession)
* What would you call corps that wardec other corps for no reason? * What exactly is highsec piracy?
PvE
- Mission Running - Plexing (deadspace complexes on map -- DED deadspace reports) - Exploration - Ratting (mini-profession) - Salvaging (mini-profession)
Industry
- Mining (highsec, lowsec, 0.0, wormholes, exploration sites) - Hauling - Trading - Scamming - Manufacturing (in general; I'm not familiar with invention, production, research, etc)
Other (not sure how to categorize these)
- Corporate Spy - Corporate Thief - 0.0 rescue - Can thief (for profit, as opposed to a can flipper who does it just to grief or as a means to pvp)
What's up with drug smuggling? How do you get into that?
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Traidor Disloyal
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.12.16 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Bruh'n Orellux
* What would you call corps that wardec other corps for no reason? * What exactly is highsec piracy?
There is always a reason to wardec another corp/alliance. Maybe they have a funny corp/alliance symbol. Maybe you thought a person from the corp/alliance had a funny/interesting name. Maybe they spoke up in local when you are on your man-period.
I have always wondered what people mean when they say "highsec piracy" myself. ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it. |

w1ndstrike
Trans-Aerospace Industries
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Posted - 2009.12.16 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Traidor Disloyal
I have always wondered what people mean when they say "highsec piracy" myself.
I have a couple friends (RL) that do the highsec priacy thing, and it breaks down into a couple different themes with multiple different variations of each:
extortion: usually through a wardec or threatening one, though for mining corps suicide ganking works equally well.
pure piracy for goods/materials: usually ore theft by can flipping, though suicide ganking indys/freighters works here too
ransoms: gaining money by forcing the opponent to become a viable target, then pinning and gaining a ransom in exchange for the release of the ship intact.
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Garresh
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.12.17 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Auditing Mineral compression consultation (see below for details) Insurance fraud Lotteries Contract camping Datacore farming Alliance creation Temporary standings amelioration Third party / escrow services Moon mining / reacting / alchemy Docking fees / office rents / refinery taxes Selling Alliance Tournament slots
Could you explain some of these in more depth? I'm doing a more in-depth writeup of playstyles now(which won't fit in my original post). I'm probably going to have to scrap this thread and start another with reserved slots...heh.
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Yonna Paris
Gallente Hinata House
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Posted - 2009.12.17 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Pompous Forum whiner
Fixed.
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CCP Manifest
C C P

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Posted - 2009.12.17 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: dethleffs prolly a bit of a time consuming thing to do, but if you want to make this an awesome post, try to link some tutorials/posts about the different playstyles/occupations.
We really should get this "unhidden", but you might want to check out this PDF: http://www.eveonline.com/careerguide/
Tell your friends!
--CCP Manifest-- |
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Tierie
Caldari Duty.
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Posted - 2009.12.17 14:21:00 -
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Wormhole rescue, too.
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5pinDizzy
Amarr Pillow Fighters Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.17 14:38:00 -
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I can't see forum warrior up there.
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Hra Neuvosto
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.12.17 15:48:00 -
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Selling killmails (there's a thread somewhere in the Sell Orders)
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Solid Star
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Posted - 2009.12.17 16:14:00 -
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Some of the professions listed are not professions. "0.0 warfare/territory holding" should be Nullsec Soldier, FC, Corp director/leader, Alliance leader.
Loot Reprocessor (buy loot of market and reprocess)
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Zapatero
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: dethleffs prolly a bit of a time consuming thing to do, but if you want to make this an awesome post, try to link some tutorials/posts about the different playstyles/occupations.
We really should get this "unhidden", but you might want to check out this PDF: http://www.eveonline.com/careerguide/
Tell your friends!
Probably need a bit of an update on it... just as soon as we put the next mag to bed  EON | blog |

Lord XSiV
Amarr Digital Research - Omega Protocol
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Garresh
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Auditing Mineral compression consultation (see below for details) Insurance fraud Lotteries Contract camping Datacore farming Alliance creation Temporary standings amelioration Third party / escrow services Moon mining / reacting / alchemy Docking fees / office rents / refinery taxes Selling Alliance Tournament slots
Could you explain some of these in more depth? I'm doing a more in-depth writeup of playstyles now(which won't fit in my original post). I'm probably going to have to scrap this thread and start another with reserved slots...heh.
Auditing falls under Scamming.
As do most lotteries.
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:38:00 -
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Edited by: Marko Riva on 17/12/2009 21:38:08
Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: dethleffs prolly a bit of a time consuming thing to do, but if you want to make this an awesome post, try to link some tutorials/posts about the different playstyles/occupations.
We really should get this "unhidden", but you might want to check out this PDF: http://www.eveonline.com/careerguide/
Tell your friends!
I sense a lack of "devious" career options.
----------- I think, therefore I'm single. New projectile damage PDF Alliance creation service |

Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:38:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Pompous on 17/12/2009 21:38:42
Originally by: 5pinDizzy I can't see forum warrior up there.
I begged him to put it up there, I begged him ---
Even though you might disagree with what I say, that doesn't automatically make me a troll. |
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Tierie Wormhole rescue, too.
I'd like to see this profession get a boost in the near future. Maybe add a "Distrees Call" loot that drops randomly from NPCs. It contains the coordinates to a wormhole leading to a random and stranded pilot on any system. This in turn could be sold to wormhole rescuers which in turn could collect a fee to save the stranded.
The stranded pilot would have to activate the "distress call" signal in order to have it randomly drop on someone's mission. And just so that there isn't abuse activating the distress signal would cost a hefty amount (10 - 20 million?) Meh. Went on a tanget... What were we talking about?
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |

Tajwel Kura
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:41:00 -
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List of professions in EVE
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Julius Rigel
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Posted - 2009.12.18 00:27:00 -
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Edited by: Julius Rigel on 18/12/2009 00:29:31
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Rescuing etc.
How would the server know whether a character needed to be rescued, though? And how would it know whether the character would be logged in any time soon in order to be rescued?
And to OP: Your list (and the old list) is missing:
Running poker / gambling and / or competitions that involve luck
Playing poker / gambling and / or competitions that involve luck
Running racing / frigate fights and / or competitions that don't involve much luck
Participating in racing / frigate fights and / or competitions that don't involve much luck
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Feone
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Posted - 2009.12.18 00:48:00 -
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Thread TLDR.
The list is full of 'jobs' or 'services' mixed with some professions.
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