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Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.12.17 03:46:00 -
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Obviously some of the little stuff is good like improved Minmy guns and more faction BS.
But the core and name sake of Dominion - does it pretty much suck? Are the sovereignty, moon mineral and capitol ship changes making the game better or more fun for anyone as they stand now?
This is an actual question. If it has made the game better for you please take the time to explain.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Asuka Smith
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2009.12.17 03:50:00 -
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Most of the balance changes are great, as for the sov changes yeah they are buggy but giving them two weeks to decide if it is a failure or not is absurd.
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2009.12.17 03:53:00 -
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Edited by: Emperor Cheney on 17/12/2009 03:53:13 in my opinion, the graphics changes alone justify the update. I am in love with the new starfields. I want to marry them.
edit to add: and fleet finder. I also want to marry fleet finder. Me and the UI/Graphical interfaces have this weird poly thing going.
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Gun Gal
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Posted - 2009.12.17 03:56:00 -
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Edited by: Gun Gal on 17/12/2009 03:56:43
op: it is fair to say you are a blathering idiot.
it is also fair to say people like you should gtfo of eve and go whine somewhere else.
and most likely it is fair to say ill prob get a temp ban, but whatever, i dislike whiners like you. you are a blight on interent society , and deserve every negative thing that will ever happen to you.
and for the record, dominion is pretty much the same as every expansion, a bunch of noob WoW rejects whining, complaining, crying, then they either suck it up or leave, and in any case, CCP fixes it.
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Bane Loppknow
Pel Industries
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Posted - 2009.12.17 03:59:00 -
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I think the new sov system will prove to be a good thing. Right now it's still very young. It has already accomplished one of it's primary goals: get new people into 0.0. Some alliances may not have freed up some room, but many have, and I suspect that as CCP fine-tunes the sov system, the rest will follow. |

Virgil Travis
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.17 04:03:00 -
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If you ask those who were first to explore wormholes when Apocrypha was released, chances are they found plenty of bugs and some figured that this new content sucked too, those that decided to put forward well written opinions on what could be improved and gave CCP a chance are probably much happier with that side of the game now.
It's a big change to an established set of mechanics, and it's only a couple of weeks old. You could try giving it a chance.
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Muad' Dib
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.17 04:11:00 -
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Originally by: Gun Gal Edited by: Gun Gal on 17/12/2009 03:56:43
op: it is fair to say you are a blathering idiot.
it is also fair to say people like you should gtfo of eve and go whine somewhere else.
and most likely it is fair to say ill prob get a temp ban, but whatever, i dislike whiners like you. you are a blight on interent society , and deserve every negative thing that will ever happen to you.
and for the record, dominion is pretty much the same as every expansion, a bunch of noob WoW rejects whining, complaining, crying, then they either suck it up or leave, and in any case, CCP fixes it.
You cannot call an expansion a success when you have that many problems with sov, that haven't been tested, when the test of this expansion was a joke and when they ****ed up in the first few days after Dominion the way they did - 'forgetting' to not allow DDD's in low-sec ... 'forgetting' to fully nerf fw lvl 4's ... forgetting to test out the new sov changes and refusing to name as exploits obvious sov exploits.
All of these show that this expansion resembles more and more the work of blithering idiots with no QA department behind them than the work of a professional company. --- I smack just for myself. Allow faction cap boosters to be traded via normal market ! |

EL Brutor
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2009.12.17 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: Muad' Dib
You cannot call an expansion a success when you have that many problems with sov, that haven't been tested, when the test of this expansion was a joke and when they ****ed up in the first few days after Dominion the way they did - 'forgetting' to not allow DDD's in low-sec ... 'forgetting' to fully nerf fw lvl 4's ... forgetting to test out the new sov changes and refusing to name as exploits obvious sov exploits. All of these show that this expansion resembles more and more the work of blithering idiots with no QA department behind them than the work of a professional company.
Those Fremen should teach u some manners, Paul Atreides. Its not nice for a Duke to curse like that. Your father Leto will be turning inside his tomb...
"Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of their women" |

Azirapheal
Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2009.12.17 04:32:00 -
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i just dot care about sov. too many years with naptrains and an inability to get in on decent ratting in my younger days without having to suck the dong of an alliance made me pretty much lose any interest in it.
balance changes are nice. and with the new starfields i have an excuse to actually spin a ship in space between hunts.
as for the whole mom/supercarrier thing. its like titans. i just dont care.
Originally by: Azirapheal i never ever thought id live to see the day.... that titans were nerfed for being FOTM HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist SoonÖ
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Alaura Aquila
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.12.17 05:07:00 -
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Originally by: Gun Gal Edited by: Gun Gal on 17/12/2009 03:56:43
op: it is fair to say you are a blathering idiot.
it is also fair to say people like you should gtfo of eve and go whine somewhere else.
and most likely it is fair to say ill prob get a temp ban, but whatever, i dislike whiners like you. you are a blight on interent society , and deserve every negative thing that will ever happen to you.
and for the record, dominion is pretty much the same as every expansion, a bunch of noob WoW rejects whining, complaining, crying, then they either suck it up or leave, and in any case, CCP fixes it.
What she said.
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I SoStoned
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.12.17 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Azirapheal i just dot care about sov. too many years with naptrains and an inability to get in on decent ratting in my younger days without having to suck the dong of an alliance made me pretty much lose any interest in it.
I'm with this guy... bending over for this alliance or that alliance just to do anything in 0.0 utterly burned me out on the entire concept. There's just so much taste of dick you can choke on before you vomit.
Lucky for me Empire (0.1 and up) has been very, very good for me, and I only run missions to pay for charters.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.12.17 05:32:00 -
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I think it's fair to say at this point that this thread is a failure.
My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |

Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2009.12.17 05:43:00 -
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One of the dev blogs said, paraphrased "If it takes 12 months to get it right, it will take 12 months. We're that committed". You're complaining after 2 weeks... Fifty more to go dude.
Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition
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Posted - 2009.12.17 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: I SoStoned
Originally by: Azirapheal i just dot care about sov. too many years with naptrains and an inability to get in on decent ratting in my younger days without having to suck the dong of an alliance made me pretty much lose any interest in it.
I'm with this guy... bending over for this alliance or that alliance just to do anything in 0.0 utterly burned me out on the entire concept. There's just so much taste of dick you can choke on before you vomit.
Lucky for me Empire (0.1 and up) has been very, very good for me, and I only run missions to pay for charters.
So what you are saying is you only like a man if he is in a Concord uniform? 
Honestly guys, are you this bitter about the rent you pay for your home, or the taxes you pay on your property? Heh.
Getting a foothold in 0.0 is done one of three ways. Either through joining an existing 0.0 entity, negotiation, or through brute force. Often one method is smarter, and much more practical, than the others.
Negotiating successfully with an entity more militarily powerful than yourself is a sign of intelligence, not subservience. Once you figure that out, you'll find your chances of success in whatever you choose to do will increase substantially.
===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you. |

Trocent
Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2009.12.17 05:53:00 -
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I think it's fair to say that Muad' Dib is a moron. You haven't gotten your way and it hasn't been done the way you want and you act like you could do better. Quit eve because whiners like you don't belong here.
Expansions take time to get everything worked out. Give it time and STFU. Just be glad these expansions are free and you dont have to pay for each one like most other MMOs. Whats the expansion cost for other MMOs anyhow?
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Cyberman Mastermind
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Posted - 2009.12.17 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: Trocent Just be glad these expansions are free
How could an expansion for eve NOT be free without destroying most of what eve stands for or forcing players to stop playing?
A paid expansion would have to be optional, how would you do that in Eve? Sharded server? Regions you can't access? |

Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.12.17 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: Cyberman Mastermind A paid expansion would have to be optional, how would you do that in Eve?
"This skill requires CONCORD pilot license #14 to train." "This ship requires CONCORD pilot license #7 to board." "This module requires CONCORD pilot license #8 to fit." "This charge requires CONCORD pilot license #18 to load." "This gate//container//wreck requires CONCORD pilot license #5 to open." "You cannot use this feature without CONCORD pilot license #3."
It can be done 
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.17 07:55:00 -
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Edited by: Marko Riva on 17/12/2009 07:55:42 planets - check starfield - check mail system - check
MOM - oops SOV - oops DD's in low sec - oops FW issues - oops massive fleet lag - oops
So they gave the car an updated interior but they completely messed up the engine, nice overhaul.
----------- I think, therefore I'm single. New projectile damage PDF Alliance creation service |

Batolemaeus
Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.12.17 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
But the core and name sake of Dominion - does it pretty much suck? Are the sovereignty, moon mineral and capitol ship changes making the game better or more fun for anyone as they stand now?
Cap changes were ****, sov changes achieved nothing but even more timezone warfare and blobbing, upgrades aren't worth the effort and can hold 2-3 people per system max, server performance can't support 100 people moving through systems.
So yeah. The features that were hyped the most have failed pretty hard. ----------------------------------------------
Originally by: CCP Prism X In New Eden, EVE wins you.
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UVPhoenix2
R.EVE.olutioN Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2009.12.17 08:06:00 -
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At least it's not as bad as Quantum Rise. ___
After I'm gone, your Earth will be free to live out its miserable span of existence, as one of my satellites, and that's how it's going to be. |

Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2009.12.17 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: Trocent Whats the expansion cost for other MMOs anyhow?
You mean regular content updates? 0$ last I checked.
Major content expansions with new leveled zones? Too much, but leveling is what makes most MMOs suck anyway. Nothing like being level 80 when everyone you invite to play your favorite game has a cap of 60 and won't be able to play with you in any current content.
The only company to charge for regular content updates is SOE that I know of, and we all know how much of a joke they are.
Also the kind of segregation paid expansions cause would break EVE, period.
tl;dr: thank god CCP isn't that stupid.
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started. EVE has devs that care about sound? (Ha ha ha! Gotcha. It actually doesn't!) |

Khalm
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.12.17 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Gun Gal Edited by: Gun Gal on 17/12/2009 03:56:43
op: it is fair to say you are a blathering idiot.
it is also fair to say people like you should gtfo of eve and go whine somewhere else.
and most likely it is fair to say ill prob get a temp ban, but whatever, i dislike whiners like you. you are a blight on interent society , and deserve every negative thing that will ever happen to you.
and for the record, dominion is pretty much the same as every expansion, a bunch of noob WoW rejects whining, complaining, crying, then they either suck it up or leave, and in any case, CCP fixes it.
What this guy said... ---
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Salmeria
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2009.12.17 08:39:00 -
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Its been fine... although they should have had the AF and MS changes. I am also much richer due to moon mining changes!
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Solj RichPopolous
Amarr Eve Liberation Force OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.17 08:41:00 -
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Edited by: Solj RichPopolous on 17/12/2009 08:43:38
Originally by: Gun Gal Edited by: Gun Gal on 17/12/2009 03:56:43
op: it is fair to say you are a blathering idiot.
it is also fair to say people like you should gtfo of eve and go whine somewhere else.
and most likely it is fair to say ill prob get a temp ban, but whatever, i dislike whiners like you. you are a blight on interent society , and deserve every negative thing that will ever happen to you.
and for the record, dominion is pretty much the same as every expansion, a bunch of noob WoW rejects whining, complaining, crying, then they either suck it up or leave, and in any case, CCP fixes it.
This guy is an idiot who can't read that the OP was asking a question?
Did I miss the memo where asking a question about how OTHER PEOPLE AND/OR YOU feel about something was considered whining?
Typical forum monkeys.
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Falconwraith
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Posted - 2009.12.17 08:53:00 -
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I personally would say it's far far far to early to tell whether this will be a success or failure. Changes in sov will take weeks if not months to adjust to.
the patch has been out for a little over 2 weeks and a LOT of the new sov functions just recently came online. I'd wait until FEB before passing to much judgment.
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Morel Nova
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.12.17 09:15:00 -
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I dont give a crap about the rest of the stuff because the faction ships are super fun Reward small gang/solo pvp!
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Vultaras
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Posted - 2009.12.17 09:29:00 -
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Stop using such a words EVE Fail Fail and Fail.... This game is amazing and no other game can compete in cosmos . If you do not like....You are free go away from here and stop whining and flooding forums
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Mrs Snowman
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Posted - 2009.12.17 09:32:00 -
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You seem to be under the false and wildly ignorant opinion that Dominion is merly the changes to sovereignty.
It took CCP many many years to realize that the old sovereignty system was fail, so all we know for sure is that Exodus, failed (if that was the expansion which introduced it.
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Leana Darkrider
Minmatar Creatio -ex- nihilo The Donkey Rollers
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Posted - 2009.12.17 09:35:00 -
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Dominion is working as intended ______________________________________ If only EVE could cook, if only.... |

Sumelar
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Posted - 2009.12.17 10:07:00 -
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The sov changes are a step in the right direction. There's no way CCP can prevent big alliance from claiming the same huge swaths in spirit if not in name, by virtue of their huge fleets. But at least the system in place now is vastly superior to the old way, in terms of people being able to stake claim and have a null sec home.
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