The hi sec publords do not realize much of the hi sec population are alts of us lo and null folk.

Are you sure? Because that is some of the people clamoring to ban alts and multiple accounts for that very reason.

However, I wouldn't call it much. If that were true, there would have been an equilibrium reached already. Unless people take the roleplaying too far and fight themselves in the metagame as well as in the pew pew.

You play this game called EVE right?

Anyway, on topic, I've only seen a few seriously suggest banning alts. The rest are being sarcastic/trolling... I hope.

1) CCP makes money from it, significantly.

2) It would be impossible to enforce.

The hi sec publords do not realize much of the hi sec population are alts of us lo and null folk.

So, please, stop the complaints.

Anyway, on topic, I've only seen a few seriously suggest banning alts. The rest are being sarcastic/trolling... I hope.

1) CCP makes money from it, significantly.

2) It would be impossible to enforce.

Not really. CCP could just refuse to allow more than one character per account.

But if they did this, the tinfoil hat crowd would vanish off the forums due to a single guy not being able to switch names every 2-3 weeks when everyone's successfully ignored him to death.

I'd like to point out there is a significant difference between wishing to curb behaviour like NPC corp hauling, mining and war dec evasion and wanting to ban alts.

I have only ever seen one or two posts requesting a ban on alts.

this is obviously a rumor

Alts are overrated anyway. Everything alts can do people can do, they just get used for convenience. And CCP is not going to cut off their primary source of income.

Not really. CCP could just refuse to allow more than one character per account.

But if they did this, the tinfoil hat crowd would vanish off the forums due to a single guy not being able to switch names every 2-3 weeks when everyone's successfully ignored him to death.

I have 3 account 1 miner 1 main pvp and 1 transport open in every 3 screens i have multi tasking for the win lol. Nah just make the game a little bit easyer for me. Nothing special about it i think many people have this setup.

Your forums alt would need it's own account, too. Quite a predicament for some posters here...

Well, now that I'm the Lord of a high security Pub, that calls for a celebration.



"Barmaid, a large mug of Quafe Ultra Special Edition for everyone in the house."

The hi sec publords do not realize much of the hi sec population are alts of us lo and null folk.

Just as a little side thing...anytime CCP does something to try and draw in more money without a positive impact on space, players shut it down.

Explain the positive aspects of alts.

Anyway, on topic, I've only seen a few seriously suggest banning alts. The rest are being sarcastic/trolling... I hope.

1) CCP makes money from it, significantly.

2) It would be impossible to enforce.

It's not, really.

It's stated in your post that alts won't go away because CCP makes money off them, but several other projects of theirs have, so...since the idea is so lolworthy, why are alts worth keeping around?

What significant benefit do they bring to the game?

They allow:

1) Wardec avoidance

2) Espionage

3) Market PVP

4) Parallel training tracks (Which allow to reach functionality concurrently rather than sequentially)

5) Allow different role plays by the same player - genders, races, professions, etc

6) Specialized character toons (leadership toons for mining/fc. PI toons, etc)

7) Nerfed, but datacore collection was a great reason and more time consuming, PI (you can train two accounts of 3 toons to elite PI in about 6 months, giving you 36 planets. You wont have a life, but... 36 ******* PLANETS. You can then harvest them for 6 months and live a year off them making the accounts inactive.

The list could go on. Before the Inferno, they were also used to decshield.

Let's see...

1) Meh

2) Spying on noob corps gives tons of intel

3) You can do that anyway... market PvP doesn't track people unless you sell, then what? They'd have to buy more to know all those orders were yours but then no one cares

4) agreed

5) Genders and race don't mean crap anymore

6) Meh

7) Those are all still boring as hell, my alt can do 6 planets... right now I'm harvesting off 1 because it bored me so I stopped

1) You are not a carebear then, but we are talking any use. Station camping while moving in an alt is #1 carebear trick. In fact, I used to collect tears from "mercs" by following them around in a velator in an npc corp alt. So salty!

2) You do not understand deep espionage then, which requires bypassing API checks, generating a persona etc.

3) I mean in the sense that you can enhance the opportunities by adding hundred of extra orders and dozens of more contracts

4) :)

5) They do to FW and role play people - hence this is a reason for people to pay for alts, which is the question. It is awkward to be Caldari in a Gallente militia, aint it? As to gender, again roleplay. Most of us dont care and are dudes with girl avatars, but some of us like variety.

6) Then you don't know how to solo mine with an orca, a hauler and a hulk. :)

7) True, but we are talking in general. I know people who dont pvp for half the year doing PI and then stop all PI and go and play.

They allow:

1) Wardec avoidance

2) Espionage

3) Market PVP

4) Parallel training tracks (Which allow to reach functionality concurrently rather than sequentially)

5) Allow different role plays by the same player - genders, races, professions, etc

6) Specialized character toons (leadership toons for mining/fc. PI toons, etc)

7) Nerfed, but datacore collection was a great reason and more time consuming, PI (you can train two accounts of 3 toons to elite PI in about 6 months, giving you 36 planets. You wont have a life, but... 36 ******* PLANETS. You can then harvest them for 6 months and live a year off them making the accounts inactive.

The list could go on. Before the Inferno, they were also used to decshield.

The hi sec publords do not realize much of the hi sec population are alts of us lo and null folk.

The hi sec publords do not realize much of the hi sec population are alts of us lo and null folk.

The hi sec publords do not realize much of the hi sec population are alts of us lo and null folk.

Except, as I mentioned, there is no legal way for CCP to ensure a single person doesn't control multiple accounts except requiring IDs to open and manage accounts and to plex them up etc.

Are you sure? Because that is some of the people clamoring to ban alts and multiple accounts for that very reason.

However, I wouldn't call it much. If that were true, there would have been an equilibrium reached already. Unless people take the roleplaying too far and fight themselves in the metagame as well as in the pew pew.

- envy and jellies at being not able to afford it.

Are you sure? Because that is some of the people clamoring to ban alts and multiple accounts for that very reason.

However, I wouldn't call it much. If that were true, there would have been an equilibrium reached already. Unless people take the roleplaying too far and fight themselves in the metagame as well as in the pew pew.

No more POWER OF TWO promotions?

What ever will CCP do?

I actually think around half the characters in Hisec are most likely alts of nullsec and lowsec players. I have 9 actual characters on 3 accoutns, all with uses and roles. Of that 9, 6 are actually in hisec.

We all have the main, most people are not hardcore role players, but we play against toons, not people. But some people want to play against people, hence ban alts/multiple accounts, along with the jellies etc...

I remember seeing a bio about this....

Gate camping in a hic: 200 mil isk.
Bottle of bicardi: 20$

Killing your own indy alt hauling in 2 billion worth if pos mods for your corp: priceless