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Nicole Severasse
Jihadswarm.
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Posted - 2012.06.20 17:02:00 -
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Just figured I would drop this on the forums for anyone looking to join Heretic Nation.
As a newer corporation looking to move into piracy instead of primarily suicide ganks, I decided to start looking for an alliance. Found Heretic Nation and started talking to Az Tek. Seemed like a cool guy, and tl:dr, I gave him 1.2b for a security deposit. This was supposed to cover security issues from our corp joining the alliance.
I have no doubt he will deny it, and claim I gave him the isk out of kindness, but figured at least now a search on Heretic Nation will return at least one hit on a scam.
Trolls, proceed. |

Cannibal Kane
Praetorian Cannibals
431
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Posted - 2012.06.20 17:06:00 -
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Nicole Severasse wrote:Just figured I would drop this on the forums for anyone looking to join Heretic Nation.
As a newer corporation looking to move into piracy instead of primarily suicide ganks, I decided to start looking for an alliance. Found Heretic Nation and started talking to Az Tek. Seemed like a cool guy, and tl:dr, I gave him 1.2b for a security deposit. This was supposed to cover security issues from our corp joining the alliance.
I have no doubt he will deny it, and claim I gave him the isk out of kindness, but figured at least now a search on Heretic Nation will return at least one hit on a scam.
Trolls, proceed.
Not Troll...
Proof might negate your troll factor.
I'm not a Pirate, I'm a Terrorist.
The Crazy African
*Hair done by LGÇÖOr+¬al, because I'm worth it. |

Calfis
The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities
120
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Posted - 2012.06.20 17:21:00 -
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You should issue a fatwa against them. |

Cetaphil Thrace
The Royal Dynasty Stealth Wear Inc.
9
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Posted - 2012.06.20 17:29:00 -
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What was the scam, you gave him a security deposit, but what happened next? Did you join the alliance? Did he refuse to give back deposit after you didnt join alliance? Did you exchange bitter words with each other? What was the outcome of your security deposit convo? Are you like his girlfriend, and you just broke up? Consult Judge Judy for resolution. |

Ophey Won
Stargate SG-1 Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2012.06.20 17:29:00 -
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Nicole Severasse wrote:Just figured I would drop this on the forums for anyone looking to join Heretic Nation.
As a newer corporation looking to move into piracy instead of primarily suicide ganks, I decided to start looking for an alliance. Found Heretic Nation and started talking to Az Tek. Seemed like a cool guy, and tl:dr, I gave him 1.2b for a security deposit. This was supposed to cover security issues from our corp joining the alliance.
I have no doubt he will deny it, and claim I gave him the isk out of kindness, but figured at least now a search on Heretic Nation will return at least one hit on a scam.
Trolls, proceed.
Kiss your ISK goodbye. You got Scammed and they are all laughing at you now.
P/S. if you give me 500 mil i can get your 1.2 bil back. |

Nicole Severasse
Jihadswarm.
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Posted - 2012.06.20 17:38:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote: Not Troll...
Proof might negate your troll factor.
True, but posting Eve-mails is against the forum rules...and the main point was to just get the name to come up in a search...which I did when I was looking at joining.
@Cetaphil No, did not join the alliance, thought that much was clear? Yes, he said I couldn't have the isk (which I did not bother asking for), because per him, it was unrelated to the alliance. No, I keep my mails polite, as with all my communication...no sense in raging over internet games :) He dropped all convo's after the isk was sent. No.
@Ophey I did before I sent it. And nice try. |

Tyreul Severasse
Weyland-Yutani-Tyreul
0
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Posted - 2012.06.20 17:39:00 -
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Nicole, are we related?
Also, Heretic Nation scammage noted. |

Tauren Tom
Order of the Silver Dragons Silver Dragonz
67
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Posted - 2012.06.20 17:56:00 -
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When will people learn that any group asking for a security deposit is looking to just scam them >.>
Seriously... Its like people are just GIVING away all this isk.
How about you give me some instead? "I transcend gender in ways a Neurotypical like you would not be able to understand." - Xenuria http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1500731&page=1#12
(>^.^)>#-á Wafflez? |

CorInaXeraL
Order of the Silver Dragons Silver Dragonz
9
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Posted - 2012.06.20 18:20:00 -
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I'll take a 1.2 bil Security Deposit and at least offer a hug and farewell kiss before running for the nearest Jita. |

Nicole Severasse
Jihadswarm.
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Posted - 2012.06.20 19:51:00 -
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Tyreul Severasse wrote:Nicole, are we related?
Also, Heretic Nation scammage noted. I think not, common last name and all.
@Tauren I know, I wasn't entirely comfortable with it, but again, I could not find anything suggesting that Heretic Nation or its members had scammed anyone before.
@CorlnaXeraL I know right, should've totally got more bang for the buck :) |

jimmyjam
Deadspace Exploration Conglomerate Clockwork Pineapple
44
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Posted - 2012.06.20 20:31:00 -
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Nicole Severasse wrote:Just figured I would drop this on the forums for anyone looking to join Heretic Nation.
As a newer corporation looking to move into piracy instead of primarily suicide ganks, I decided to start looking for an alliance. Found Heretic Nation and started talking to Az Tek. Seemed like a cool guy, and tl:dr, I gave him 1.2b for a security deposit. This was supposed to cover security issues from our corp joining the alliance.
I have no doubt he will deny it, and claim I gave him the isk out of kindness, but figured at least now a search on Heretic Nation will return at least one hit on a scam.
Trolls, proceed. Well you learned thsi lesson the hard way,It dont make sense to pay to join anyone or anything if they wont accept you on merit then its a waste of time. |

Johnson Johnson
Heretic University Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2012.06.20 20:41:00 -
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az who? |

Daemon Ceed
Jihad Squad from Riyadh Reckless Ambition
199
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Posted - 2012.06.21 00:06:00 -
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Why do fools keep falling for this? Did a coronal mass ejection hit the Earth and irradiate a large swatch of humans' chromosomes to the point that they devolved into the mental equivalent of cro magnons?
I need to start getting into this business, but I keep telling myself "Nah, not enough people would fall for it." This forum constantly proves me wrong. Post with your main or GTFO! The Sandbox = Play however the hell you want. |

Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Cold Hand of Shadow
120
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Posted - 2012.06.21 06:23:00 -
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Looking to pay a security deposit and join a real PVP alliance. Send me spam mails. |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.06.21 06:30:00 -
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Nicole Severasse wrote:Just figured I would drop this on the forums for anyone looking to join Heretic Nation.
As a newer corporation looking to move into piracy instead of primarily suicide ganks, I decided to start looking for an alliance. Found Heretic Nation and started talking to Az Tek. Seemed like a cool guy, and tl:dr, I gave him 1.2b for a security deposit. This was supposed to cover security issues from our corp joining the alliance.
I have no doubt he will deny it, and claim I gave him the isk out of kindness, but figured at least now a search on Heretic Nation will return at least one hit on a scam.
Trolls, proceed.
I seriously wonder about that...but on the other hand, faction fits for cynas have their price. ...should do some recruiting myself...o wait we don-¦t scam... |

Russell Casey
Goldbug Inc.
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Posted - 2012.06.21 14:04:00 -
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Nicole Severasse wrote:Tyreul Severasse wrote:Nicole, are we related?
Also, Heretic Nation scammage noted. I think not, common last name and all. @Tauren I know, I wasn't entirely comfortable with it, but again, I could not find anything suggesting that Heretic Nation or its members had scammed anyone before.
Besides the fact that they were, y'know, PIRATES? 
Oh well, all you're missing is a giant campfest in a system nobody gives a rat's ass about. |

evereplicant
State Protectorate Caldari State
157
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Posted - 2012.06.21 16:13:00 -
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Johnson Johnson wrote:az who?
lol as if you dont know! I mean az tek been a member for a while! Sadly this is eve and sadly heretics still think they are relevant but they are not. Camping Amamake (when they havent been kicked out) is exactly what you call pro is it.
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Griznatch
Xicron Syndicate Tus Network
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:39:00 -
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Securty Deposit (n): a farcical sum of money requested by a corporation or alliance as a condition of employment and paid only by the dim of mind. I used to have a clever sig but I lost it. |

Freundliches Feuer
Comply Or Die Rolling Thunder.
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Posted - 2012.06.21 20:54:00 -
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Ophey Won wrote:Nicole Severasse wrote:Just figured I would drop this on the forums for anyone looking to join Heretic Nation.
As a newer corporation looking to move into piracy instead of primarily suicide ganks, I decided to start looking for an alliance. Found Heretic Nation and started talking to Az Tek. Seemed like a cool guy, and tl:dr, I gave him 1.2b for a security deposit. This was supposed to cover security issues from our corp joining the alliance.
I have no doubt he will deny it, and claim I gave him the isk out of kindness, but figured at least now a search on Heretic Nation will return at least one hit on a scam.
Trolls, proceed. Kiss your ISK goodbye. You got Scammed and they are all laughing at you now. P/S. if you give me 500 mil i can get your 1.2 bil back.
But if you give ME 600mil, I will get you the 500mil your about to give him + your 1.2bil back!
Good deal, hurry up. |

MrWhitei God
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
69
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Posted - 2012.06.21 21:11:00 -
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Send me proof of this.
If this is the case and you dont get your ISK back Az Tek will be removed from corp.
Heretic Nation dont do recruitment scams |

Jude Lloyd
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
353
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Posted - 2012.06.21 21:25:00 -
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MrWhitei God wrote:Send me proof of this.
If this is the case and you dont get your ISK back Az Tek will be removed from corp.
Heretic Nation dont do recruitment scams
This ^
Contact Whitei with specifics and this issue will be handled. Heretic Army Warlord and Diplomat Host of Frigfest http://judelloyd.blog.com/ http://kb.heretic-army.biz/
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Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2322
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Posted - 2012.06.21 21:54:00 -
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A coven of w(b)itches they may be but they blob with honoure! Speak to their officials and I'm sure you will get your ISK back if you provide some convincing evidence.
Ps they don't really blob if you ask nicely etc. <3 (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Griznatle
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
22
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Posted - 2012.06.21 22:04:00 -
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Quote:Besides the fact that they were, y'know, PIRATES?  Oh well, all you're missing is a giant campfest in a system nobody gives a rat's ass about.
TUNDRAGUN REPRESUNTATUVE wrote:I seriously wonder about that...but on the other hand, faction fits for cynas have their price.  ...should do some recruiting myself...o wait we don-¦t scam...
But what you do like to do is use your titan to drop singular ships in heimatar with a 15 man ab armor hac gang, just SAYEN MEIGHT
Nicole Severasse wrote:Just figured I would drop this on the forums for anyone looking to join Heretic Nation.
As a newer corporation looking to move into piracy instead of primarily suicide ganks, I decided to start looking for an alliance. Found Heretic Nation and started talking to Az Tek. Seemed like a cool guy, and tl:dr, I gave him 1.2b for a security deposit. This was supposed to cover security issues from our corp joining the alliance.
I have no doubt he will deny it, and claim I gave him the isk out of kindness, but figured at least now a search on Heretic Nation will return at least one hit on a scam.
Trolls, proceed.
Just like to +1, as Heretic Red Cell, I will personally see to it that we resolve this. please contact me ingame and we will discuss this. Scamming is allowed in Heretic Nation, using Heretic Nation as bait is a big NO.
evereplicant wrote:Johnson Johnson wrote:az who? lol as if you dont know! I mean az tek been a member for a while! Sadly this is eve and sadly heretics still think they are relevant but they are not. Camping Amamake (when they havent been kicked out) is exactly what you call pro is it.
you know when that one braw said to Jack Sparrow, your the worst pirate I have ever heard of...then Sparrow says back "ah but you have heard of me" So yeah, u mad braw? |

Nicole Severasse
Jihadswarm. Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2012.06.22 01:53:00 -
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I replied to MrWhitei God, but will forward you the mail Griznatle.
For anyone else, I will update the original post if this is resolved. |

Jude Lloyd
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
353
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Posted - 2012.06.22 04:20:00 -
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! <3 Mother Amamake. Heretic Army Warlord and Diplomat Host of Frigfest http://judelloyd.blog.com/ http://kb.heretic-army.biz/
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Az Tek
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2012.06.22 05:17:00 -
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LMAO. Your doucheness knows no bounds does it? So I don't let you in alliance and you attempt to target my rep? Come on bro. this is another reason why I didn't let you in. When speaking to you on vent I could tell there was something off by how much **** you were talking about all those people and how much bullshit fell out of your mouth. Also how trifling and conniving you were. You told me how you set your 'ex-friend' up at school with fraudulent paperwork concerning cheating on test results? I mean how ******* random is that? And you kept bragging about it? Like it was cleaver? Also the bullshit you kept saying. You own 5 accounts 2 of which were titan pilots, a high ranked PVP pilot, a max capital builder, and a nyx pilot. That you were gonna let the alliance use them when you got in. Obviously I knew this was bullshit simply by talking to you and poking around. Also by your killboard, your age, and your general mentality. One of the most childish people I've ever spoke to on vent. Here's how it went down though..
He contacted me after seeing my recruitment thread on the forums. I told him I was not sure I could get his corp into alliance due to how **** their killboard wasand how new they were to PVP. NEG EXP. but if they wanted to join uni it 'MIGHT' be possible. But he'd need to fly with us for a week or two. I mean their killboard just ******* sucked and his pvp exp was just as bad. So i told him this. So he asked me to train him. I told him sure. AND DID SO. I trained him on and off for a few days. Took a ton of time to. guy didn't listen, kept lying about dumb ****. etc etc. I gave him a few ships as well. but I stuck with him. Kept helping and training. Went over overview setting, basic tactics for solo and fleet, null sec, etc etc. Well after a while it came up that i was having an issue with isk and he said he hadn't known or he wouldn't have taken the ships so he offered me 1.2 bil to keep. So obviously I took it. but his **** got old soon. He got worse and worse and worse. so finally the other day when he logged onto vent I had had enough. He was telling me he knew some famous actors and had just hung out with them the night before and all this other bullshit I absolutely hate liars. So I told him he needed to look else where. that he wouldn't listen, and all he did was lie, he had no skill what so ever, and he was lazy and unwilling to listen that i had wasted so much time on him. So he got pissed and asked me for the isk back. He even asked me if i scammed him. I told him straight up he gave me the isk and if he regretted it he shouldn't have done it. It was payment for dealing with his stupid **** for such a long time while training him and the hips i gave him.
Here is the mail that proceeded after he got pissy that I rejected him. So he sends me a message asking me if i had scammed him. Also, after this post I am done with this thread. I wouldn't have even bothered to post here to start with but i don't want the corp to have a bad name cause this douche wants to cry about being rejected over complete stupidity. You all can hold his hand and believe him if you want. I personally couldn't give x2 fucks less. Is now walking away.
Big *snip* according to our forum rules, you are not allowed to post any personal conversation (like eve-mail or petitions) in the forum.
Quote:You are not permitted to publicize any private correspondence (including petitions) received from any of the aforementioned
See Forum Rules for further Information (point 9)
ISD Dosnix |

Griznatle
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2012.06.22 05:26:00 -
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So, Az tek, from what you have said here, it sounds like the 1.2 bil was a training fee, to help this bro fill out his prereqs to allow him to put in an app into heretic army without requiring extensive time in university.
This COULD ALSO BE A "give me money ill train you" scam, with a slight recruitment scam mixed in. Seeing as this potential is not a vanilla "you give me isk i let you in corp" I will have to investigate further with both parties, our policies allow scamming, but no scamming is allowed when the corp is used as bait. I will need to think.
Please open a convo with me when you see me online next, i would love to get your side on the matter that is not influenced by these trolls. Thanks. |

Az Tek
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2012.06.22 05:32:00 -
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.06.22 07:11:00 -
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Quote:But what you do like to do is use your titan to drop singular ships in [undisclosed location] with a 15 man ab armor hac gang, just SAYEN MEIGHT
wellllll...it was nothing personal I assure You...(and we were 16) |

Daemon Ceed
Jihad Squad from Riyadh Reckless Ambition
211
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Posted - 2012.06.22 07:42:00 -
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This dumbfeck should've just kept his mouth shut on the forums about this and walked away like a man with some pride. Instead, all the dirty laundry is getting aired and OP is made to look like a total douchebag. I'm sure this won't bode well for him for the next alliance he tries to court his corp into. They are gonna read this and slam the door in his muthafecking face  Post with your main or GTFO! The Sandbox = Play however the hell you want. |
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