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abitrubbish GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1	Posted - 2012.06.21 21:29:00 - [481] - Quote Forum Puppet wrote: Willie Horton wrote: Not that I like guys that made post ,but for this they should remove some of their dev''s not isk.This is really slap in face and humiliating to some point. What this story actually proves : 1. it pays up to be a goon in eve. CCP's "bugs" will not result in any retribution against you if youre a goon. remember the slip with planetary components ? they were all transformed in "broken" and isk was not paid back. See if they will take any measure against goons now. They even feel so confident that they brag about it on the forums ! 2. goons really have no RL. I am really fortunate if i get to play half an hour per day ( not that the late changes in eve made anything to prevent from getting bored if i play more ). I mean really, those guys have nothing else better to do than to grind spreadsheets and brainstorm over how to get advantage of CCPs mistakes ? I still think this is a joke - otherwise i feel very sorry for them. Well done for (possibly) playing a game less than other people. Even better done for using some of that limited time to make a numbered post saying how little it matters to you.
Aryth GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 338	Posted - 2012.06.21 21:30:00 - [482] - Quote Forum Puppet wrote: Willie Horton wrote: Not that I like guys that made post ,but for this they should remove some of their dev''s not isk.This is really slap in face and humiliating to some point. What this story actually proves : 1. it pays up to be a goon in eve. CCP's "bugs" will not result in any retribution against you if youre a goon. remember the slip with planetary components ? they were all transformed in "broken" and isk was not paid back. See if they will take any measure against goons now. They even feel so confident that they brag about it on the forums ! . Me giving you this history may only serve to enrage you more. But here goes anyway. Goons were heavily invested in components that were later to be rendered .broken We forsaw that CCP would need to do that for the health of the game. So some of the same goons involved in this, instead made outposts with those components and had them in production lines making outputs before CCP did that nerf. The difference between that and this is, components were clearly going to break the game for years. This flushes out within weeks. In the grand scheme of things, we kept this very low key compared to how it could have gone. It would not have been healthy for the game otherwise.
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 2095	Posted - 2012.06.21 21:31:00 - [483] - Quote Nicely done, congratulations gentlemen. I appreciate that you tipped off CCP after making your fortunes, something you didn't necessarily have to do. My new Amarr FW alt should become a lot more interesting shortly. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
Varesk Mafia Redux Black Legion. 100	Posted - 2012.06.21 21:32:00 - [484] - Quote CCP should just fix the loophole and move on. They programed the game, released the patch and messed it up. Its CCPs fault. Goons just pointed it out. tl;dr goons keep rewards ccp fixes broken game with broken patch.
ChYph3r Multiplex Gaming SpaceMonkey's Alliance 68	Posted - 2012.06.21 21:35:00 - [485] - Quote I support my Local Goonion! But not financially seems they have more than enough. Can we get FULL Health and Dental benefits now? http://amp.multiplexgaming.com Twitter = @chyph3r-á #podside #tweetfleet #podbanter #podcastPVP
Major Killz State Protectorate Caldari State 13	Posted - 2012.06.21 21:36:00 - [486] - Quote Time to retire to a life of never ending ship versus ships.
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 1402	Posted - 2012.06.21 21:37:00 - [487] - Quote Heimdallofasgard wrote: Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: Heimdallofasgard wrote: Hell did VV or Akita T even see this coming? VV was predicting another big peak in minerals in July but guess this throws a spanner in the works of that plan Why should I have predicted a peak in July? Where would I have posted that thing? Or are you using my name to put people buy stock you purchased and remained the guy with the lit match in the hands? What I say and think is officially posted on this thread and on the trading section of my website. Link May have been double bottoms, but, there was a post where you linked a graph and a lengthy explanation of it, with peaks in July, might be in amongst that threadnaught you linked o.0 and naw... the mins I had went off to manufacturing some stuff instead. First of all that thread is about Zydrine only. Then "All you have to do is to look for confirmed double bottoms in July". This does not mean zydrine will peak in July. It means that you may look for a double bottom which is a price formation with a "W" shape. Double bottom means "two bottoms". Bottoms in my limited dictionary are the LOWest points of price not peaks. After a double bottom, price may rise a bit, then pull back on the top of the ideal rectangle encasing such W formation and then start slowly rising. Only then you are meant to buy. Only then, if you find a double bottom in July, might be end of July to beginning of September. Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 2095	Posted - 2012.06.21 21:37:00 - [488] - Quote gulftobay wrote: Take the isk back CCP if you want to retain any credibility to the majority of your player base. Now why would they need to do that? Loop holes can happen in any game. Anyone can take advantage of them, not everyone would then turn around and make sure the loop hole got reported and closed. I don't blame them for making some ISK out of it, it was not deemed an exploit when they were actively doing it, if fact they could just as easily STILL be doing it. So perhaps you should take a step back before you deign to speak for the majority of the player base. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
ChYph3r Multiplex Gaming SpaceMonkey's Alliance 68	Posted - 2012.06.21 21:38:00 - [489] - Quote gulftobay wrote: Take the isk back CCP if you want to retain any credibility to the majority of your player base. Hes mad he didnt find the glitch. http://amp.multiplexgaming.com Twitter = @chyph3r-á #podside #tweetfleet #podbanter #podcastPVP
corestwo Goonfleet Investment Banking 467	Posted - 2012.06.21 21:38:00 - [490] - Quote gulftobay wrote: Take the isk back CCP if you want to retain any credibility to the majority of your player base. If this thread is any indication of the feelings of the majority of the playerbase, your opinion is in the minority. Ranger 1 wrote: Nicely done, congratulations gentlemen. I appreciate that you tipped off CCP after making your fortunes, something you didn't necessarily have to do. My new Amarr FW alt should become a lot more interesting shortly. Given that Minmatar have lost something like 35 points in the past day...

Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3708	Posted - 2012.06.21 21:38:00 - [491] - Quote re: PI "broken" items: money was given back (there were and still are npc buy orders for the parts that let you cash out)
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 2095	Posted - 2012.06.21 21:42:00 - [492] - Quote corestwo wrote: gulftobay wrote: Take the isk back CCP if you want to retain any credibility to the majority of your player base. If this thread is any indication of the feelings of the majority of the playerbase, your opinion is in the minority. Ranger 1 wrote: Nicely done, congratulations gentlemen. I appreciate that you tipped off CCP after making your fortunes, something you didn't necessarily have to do. My new Amarr FW alt should become a lot more interesting shortly. Given that Minmatar have lost something like 35 points in the past day... Holy crap, I really need to get home from work. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
MidnightWyvern Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension 9	Posted - 2012.06.21 21:42:00 - [493] - Quote Mere words cannot express my love for Goonswarm Federation. You guys are ******* sick, and if you ever stop being so, I will never stop crying. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eaUaJUhTZfw#t=148s An excellent example of why pod killmails are the best feature to be implemented in EVE Online since warping at zero.
Haifisch Zahne HZ Corp 59	Posted - 2012.06.21 21:43:00 - [494] - Quote REMOVED TO PROTEST CCP's Community Censorship Protocol ("CCCP").
Edington Trent Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 29	Posted - 2012.06.21 21:48:00 - [495] - Quote Wow, this makes me incredibly sad. I have a strong desire to just let my game time run out. Why? There's no point in me playing eve anymore. It's pretty obvious I'll never be successful since I'll never be as clever as the people who pull stuff like this. "Keep it dangerous, keep it risky. That sense of GÇ£here goesGÇ¥ every time you undock should never leave us."-á
corestwo Goonfleet Investment Banking 467	Posted - 2012.06.21 21:49:00 - [496] - Quote Haifisch Zahne wrote: CCP have never once said they will fix the situation. Only IF it "merits" attention. CCP has fixed, at least with a bandaid, the things that made this possible, and I'm sure that they plan to put a more permanent patch into place as well. The only thing remaining to be "fixed" is whether they take action against us for it.
Myopic Thyne Adamas Anima 4	Posted - 2012.06.21 21:51:00 - [497] - Quote Aryth wrote: Most people are myopic. Just confirming, most people are me. I am a master of alts.
Pisov viet Kaesong Kosmonauts Test Alliance Please Ignore 57	Posted - 2012.06.21 21:55:00 - [498] - Quote gulftobay wrote: Take the isk back CCP if you want to retain any credibility to the majority of your player base. Good luck with that, they didnt gained isk from it. Only assets. Unless, of course, there is a part of it I didnt understoof.
God's Apples C0bra Gang 16	Posted - 2012.06.21 21:55:00 - [499] - Quote And not a single **** was given.
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 2095	Posted - 2012.06.21 22:01:00 - [500] - Quote corestwo wrote: Haifisch Zahne wrote: CCP have never once said they will fix the situation. Only IF it "merits" attention. CCP has fixed, at least with a bandaid, the things that made this possible, and I'm sure that they plan to put a more permanent patch into place as well. The only thing remaining to be "fixed" is whether they take action against us for it. Yeah, the did rather leave the door open for that. If they are smart they will work out something amicable, in return for a heads up on any similar issues that might arise in the future. Good luck! (At the very least you should get a hearty thank you from all of the Minmatar FW pilots that have been cashing in as well... and from the Amarr FW pilots who now get the extreme satisfaction of kicking their teeth in.) To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.

Dramaticus Goonswarm Federation 149	Posted - 2012.06.21 22:07:00 - [501] - Quote Pisov viet wrote: gulftobay wrote: Take the isk back CCP if you want to retain any credibility to the majority of your player base. Good luck with that, they didnt gained isk from it. Only assets. Unless, of course, there is a part of it I didnt understoof. Nope, and I repeat for the low reading comprehension guys, No Isk Was Created, Only Spent
ModeratedToSilence Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 134	Posted - 2012.06.21 22:07:00 - [502] - Quote Well done Goons. This is player driven content at its best.
No More Heroes GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 693	Posted - 2012.06.21 22:10:00 - [503] - Quote God's Apples wrote: And not a single **** was given. 25 pages later... .
Heimdallofasgard T.O.R. 170	Posted - 2012.06.21 22:12:00 - [504] - Quote Dramaticus wrote: Pisov viet wrote: gulftobay wrote: Take the isk back CCP if you want to retain any credibility to the majority of your player base. Good luck with that, they didnt gained isk from it. Only assets. Unless, of course, there is a part of it I didnt understoof. Nope, and I repeat for the low reading comprehension guys, No Isk Was Created, Only Spent Just curious, when ships are blown up of the opposing faction and rewards are given based on ship value... that's creating LP right? ccp might argue that's an isk faucet, mind you they clearly said that was going to be a game mechanic so... yeah, working within the rules. Kick Heim.
Travis Musgrat BURN EDEN Northern Coalition. 9	Posted - 2012.06.21 22:12:00 - [505] - Quote CCP Sreegs wrote: Ituhata Saken wrote: Dearest Market-Interested Space Tycoons, At downtime today we made an adjustment to the average price of some items in order to curb a situation whereby the average price of an item could be manipulated in order to create a disparity between the value of an item in Isk and its value in Loyalty Point payouts. There will be additional changes in how this system works in the future. We will be monitoring for attempted manipulation of the LP market and will reverse any proceeds deemed to have been obtained through manipulative means. We are watching you. DonGÇÖt be That Guy. By way of explanation we addressed the manipulation issue but haven't yet completed the investigation into the scope of the abuse. Once that happens I'm pretty sure some people are going to be a bit less smug about the money they made that one time when there was a bank error in their favor and then lost again when the bank fixed the glitch. So what I am reading here is -----Edit----- Post edited. Rule 29. Personal attacks and abuse of CCP staff is prohibited. ISD Tyrozan Ensign Community Communications Liaisons Interstellar Services Department
Brewlar Kuvakei Adeptio Gloriae 93	Posted - 2012.06.21 22:14:00 - [506] - Quote CCP Sreegs wrote: Ituhata Saken wrote: Dearest Market-Interested Space Tycoons, At downtime today we made an adjustment to the average price of some items in order to curb a situation whereby the average price of an item could be manipulated in order to create a disparity between the value of an item in Isk and its value in Loyalty Point payouts. There will be additional changes in how this system works in the future. We will be monitoring for attempted manipulation of the LP market and will reverse any proceeds deemed to have been obtained through manipulative means. We are watching you. DonGÇÖt be That Guy. By way of explanation we addressed the manipulation issue but haven't yet completed the investigation into the scope of the abuse. Once that happens I'm pretty sure some people are going to be a bit less smug about the money they made that one time when there was a bank error in their favor and then lost again when the bank fixed the glitch. So it's ok for CCP to gift it's pet players billions in isk in the form of T2BPO but when goons take you to the cleaners using brains they did wrong? Ehm no I'm glad CCP now knows what it's like to be an EVE inventor getting ripped off while trying to do an honest days work. Good Job goons, keep it up. You fight for the common EVE player against CCP and the pets. Burn New Eden in the name of the helpless. Goons have stolen CCP's silver spoon that they use to feed their pets and CCP is pissed off, good work goons!
Terribad French Defence Union 1	Posted - 2012.06.21 22:16:00 - [507] - Quote You magnificent bastards..
Dramaticus Goonswarm Federation 149	Posted - 2012.06.21 22:16:00 - [508] - Quote Heimdallofasgard wrote: Dramaticus wrote: Pisov viet wrote: gulftobay wrote: Take the isk back CCP if you want to retain any credibility to the majority of your player base. Good luck with that, they didnt gained isk from it. Only assets. Unless, of course, there is a part of it I didnt understoof. Nope, and I repeat for the low reading comprehension guys, No Isk Was Created, Only Spent Just curious, when ships are blown up of the opposing faction and rewards are given based on ship value... that's creating LP right? ccp might argue that's an isk faucet, mind you they clearly said that was going to be a game mechanic so... yeah, working within the rules. We spent ISK to make LP and while we(the Jewbal) will net out way ahead this was actually a huge ISK sink for EVE due to LP store costs and transaction fees.
Desert Ice78 Cobra Kai Dojo WHY so Seri0Us 139	Posted - 2012.06.21 22:20:00 - [509] - Quote Goons, you are all terrible, terrible I say!!! Damn you all!!!!! shakes fist (P.S. Sreegs, I hope you're not really going to take the ISK of them. Not fair that.) I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused.
Harrowedsmiley Laurentson INC StructureDamage 0	Posted - 2012.06.21 22:21:00 - [510] - Quote Hats off to the Goons, they did the research and therefore get the profits.



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