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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
HellFleet
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Posted - 2009.12.30 09:37:00 -
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Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 30/12/2009 09:39:35
That's what I managed to get a Dramiel's sig radius down to.
It goes 8983m/s in standard, 13065.1m/s in overload (MWD), 756m/s with nothing on and AB it goes 3414m/s standard, 4712m/s overload.
Now let's think.
9.99341 signature at 3414m/s. Webbed with even a 90% web (faction ship webbing) slows you down to 341m/s. Can you be hit? I mean, your signature is so ridiculously small that are you nigh invulnerable, save for smartbombs?
Even moving 341 m/s, unless you've got somebody moving at a 0 transversal full on for multiple seconds and they get incredibly lucky, you're barely EVER going to get hit. I mean this just opened my mind to new levels of stupidity.
Oh, I should probably mention this fit does approx. 152 DPS with a 60km operating range in damage (103 gun DPS) and a 50km point range (yes, I'm using special bonuses). Naturally, about 3000 EHP. And to further make lollery, it has a tracking disruptor that runs cap stable forever. Literally, forever.
Heh, I may have to try this. What do you guys think, is this feasible or just plain silly?
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swedepicker
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Posted - 2009.12.30 09:47:00 -
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What is the fit, hopefully its not a stupidly overpriced gtc funded one.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
HellFleet
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Posted - 2009.12.30 09:48:00 -
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Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 30/12/2009 09:53:27
Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 30/12/2009 09:49:18
 Originally by: swedepicker
What is the fit, hopefully its not a stupidly overpriced gtc funded one.
[Dramiel, suuuppaafasstt]
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
1MN MicroWarpdrive II
Gistii A-Type 1MN Afterburner
Domination Warp Disruptor
'Investor' Tracking Disruptor I
200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S
200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Javelin Rocket
Small Auxiliary Thrusters II
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Warrior II x3
Warrior II x1
Note: It would probably be worthwhile to switch to Domination or Republic Fleet overdrives in case you are the kind of person who enjoys LOOTING targets once in a while (read: you can't fit even a single cloak into this cargohold).
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.30 09:50:00 -
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Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 30/12/2009 09:49:59
Hint: Jav rockets slow you down ;)
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swedepicker
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Posted - 2009.12.30 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Originally by: swedepicker
What is the fit, hopefully its not a stupidly overpriced gtc funded one.
[Dramiel, suuuppaafasstt]
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
1MN MicroWarpdrive II
Gistii A-Type 1MN Afterburner
Domination Warp Disruptor
'Investor' Tracking Disruptor I
200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S
200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S
Rocket Launcher II, Gremlin Javelin Rocket
Small Auxiliary Thrusters II
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Warrior II x3
Warrior II x1
Implants as well ? or is that the standard sig? as you said get the sig DOWN to.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
HellFleet
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Posted - 2009.12.30 09:53:00 -
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Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 30/12/2009 09:54:54
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 30/12/2009 09:49:59
Hint: Jav rockets slow you down ;)
Yeah I am aware of this, but I loaded that to look at range issues. You can swap it out for standard faction anyway. I'll fix that to reflect I was not having those rockets in mind during combat.
Originally by: swedepicker
Implants as well ? or is that the standard sig? as you said get the sig DOWN to.
There are a few tricks I'm using to reduce the signature.
Halo set
Evasive Maneuvers w/ Mindlink
Ragnarok kickin' it somewhere in system
Strong X-Instinct
Gets you a tiny signature :)
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Anddeh McNab
In Rust We Trust
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Posted - 2009.12.30 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
There are a few tricks I'm using to reduce the signature.
Halo set
Evasive Maneuvers w/ Mindlink
Ragnarok kickin' it somewhere in system
Strong X-Instinct
Gets you a tiny signature :)
With a ganglink Loki boosting too (just to be sure) EFT gives me a sig radius of 9.7
Can also throw in a Rogue AY-2 (5% agi) and Zor's Hyperlink for squeeze some more speed/agi out of it
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.12.30 10:00:00 -
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So, er, what exactly is your point? That a full HG Halo set, a max-skill Loki and a max-skill TITAN are good with frigates? Or that once again, you are hilariously clueless about actual PvP?
PS: quoting a 60km "operating range" for your damage is just priceless. Learn how falloff works sometime?
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FREE ABATHUR - HAVING GOOD 0.0 IDEAS IS NOT A CRIME.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
HellFleet
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Posted - 2009.12.30 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
So, er, what exactly is your point? That a full HG Halo set, a max-skill Loki and a max-skill TITAN are good with frigates? Or that once again, you are hilariously clueless about actual PvP?
PS: quoting a 60km "operating range" for your damage is just priceless. Learn how falloff works sometime?
Learn how drones work sometime.
Also, Anddeh, I added your sig to the top and appreciate your help.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.12.30 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
So, er, what exactly is your point? That a full HG Halo set, a max-skill Loki and a max-skill TITAN are good with frigates? Or that once again, you are hilariously clueless about actual PvP?
PS: quoting a 60km "operating range" for your damage is just priceless. Learn how falloff works sometime?
Learn how drones work sometime.
I rest my case. Quoting the dps from a whole three light drones as your "operating range" = fail. But, then again, it's not like this is really a surprise when you post a tackler frigate setup that requires a ****ing TITAN to work effectively.
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FREE ABATHUR - HAVING GOOD 0.0 IDEAS IS NOT A CRIME.
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Mashie Saldana
Hooligans Of War
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Posted - 2009.12.30 10:10:00 -
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Since when are titan and gang-link bonuses stacked? Only the best value will be used.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
HellFleet
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Posted - 2009.12.30 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
I rest my case. Quoting the dps from a whole three light drones as your "operating range" = fail. But, then again, it's not like this is really a surprise when you post a tackler frigate setup that requires a ****ing TITAN to work effectively.
lol dude, you freak out way too much to post in these forums.
I posted in my OP that I thought this was silly, though seeing if it was feasible drew you right out of the box. You really need to calm down man, I worry you're going to have a stress headache one of these days.
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MenanceWhite
Amarr
Emi Raaf's Corporation
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Posted - 2009.12.30 10:57:00 -
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EFTers don't know 'bout my titan tank 
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Originally by: Torfi
There's alot. That can be done. With.. corpses
Originally by: Oveur
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Lego Maniac
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.12.30 11:19:00 -
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1. you're loading barrage into 200s while counting on speed to save you -> tracking fail
2. you're counting on fleeting with a titan in the system in a frigate tournament -> reality check fail
- For all battles you will be fleeted with the other combatants (After aggro if required)
- You may not recieve any help from someone not in the tournament
- You cannot fly faction or t2 frigates
perhaps it's good to read up first before building your sandcastle in EFT eh?
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swedepicker
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Posted - 2009.12.30 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
is this feasible or just plain silly?
Plain silly, or just completly ret4rded eft who4ring after seeing what you use to get the sig that low.
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2009.12.30 13:05:00 -
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claw is 2 sig pionts smaller than the dramiel.
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Benco97
Gallente
Shadow Veil Industrial
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Posted - 2009.12.30 13:16:00 -
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I can only assume that all the people hating on Siig haven't been around very long, Siig knows more about the mechanics of this bloody game than all of us put together and it's INTERESTING to see what can be done!
Stop looking at the game in terms of "HERPA DERP, CAN'T GANK NUBS WIF THAT" and just go "Hey, that's pretty cool, a ship that's nigh-invulnerable, I'd not thought of that combination of mechanics before even if it is unrealistic"
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Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.12.30 13:29:00 -
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Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 30/12/2009 13:31:59
Originally by: Benco97
I can only assume that all the people hating on Siig haven't been around very long, Siig knows more about the mechanics of this bloody game than all of us put together and it's INTERESTING to see what can be done!
Sure we've been around a long time. I remember one of his early threads involving a Navy Comet where I had to actually work to convince him that just because faction guns are more expensive than T2 doesn't mean they are better than T2, or that spending hundreds of millions of ISK on faction damage mods for low single digit dps increases is just plain stupid. And very predictably, he lost his comedy ship to a Drake within a week. Judging by his place in EVE history as the first person to lose a T3 ship (naturally within a week of posting a thread with his terrible fit for it), he hasn't learned much from that incident.
So no, he doesn't know more about game mechanics than everyone else, he just buys a ton of GTCs and throws lots of money at terrible ships and setups. Everyone with a little understanding of the game and access to EFT knows that you can get a tiny sig radius on a frigate by stacking gang mods, implants and titan bonuses, Siigari is just the only one who can't figure out that it's just unrealistic EFT abuse without posting a thread about it.
Of course you win some troll points for actually suggesting that Siigari knows more than anyone about game mechanics in a thread where he posted a setup involving six speed bonus modules. Or maybe he knows something about the stacking penalty that the rest of us mere mortals can't even begin to comprehend?
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Pod Amarr
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Posted - 2009.12.30 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Benco97
I can only assume that all the people hating on Siig haven't been around very long, Siig knows more about the mechanics of this bloody game than all of us put together and it's INTERESTING to see what can be done!
Stop looking at the game in terms of "HERPA DERP, CAN'T GANK NUBS WIF THAT" and just go "Hey, that's pretty cool, a ship that's nigh-invulnerable, I'd not thought of that combination of mechanics before even if it is unrealistic"
actually its pretty realistic without the titan of course. Low signature high speed/high resists fits are feasible its just that the forum warriors cant see it in eft
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swedepicker
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Posted - 2009.12.30 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Benco97
I love sii... random babble
Confirming that using titans and full pirate sets is a very good mechanic to boost frigs.
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Keiko Shizuka
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Posted - 2009.12.30 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Of course you win some troll points for actually suggesting that Siigari knows more than anyone about game mechanics in a thread where he posted a setup involving six speed bonus modules. Or maybe he knows something about the stacking penalty that the rest of us mere mortals can't even begin to comprehend?
I think you worry too much. Siigari is contributes to the forum if nothing else by posting crazy ideas no one else would. Maybe you should just try to look the other way if it angers you so.
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Benco97
Gallente
Shadow Veil Industrial
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Posted - 2009.12.30 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: swedepicker
Originally by: Benco97
I love sii... random babble
Confirming that using titans and full pirate sets is a very good mechanic to boost frigs.
Yeah, I love Siigari so much
Originally by: Keiko ****uka
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Of course you win some troll points for actually suggesting that Siigari knows more than anyone about game mechanics in a thread where he posted a setup involving six speed bonus modules. Or maybe he knows something about the stacking penalty that the rest of us mere mortals can't even begin to comprehend?
I think you worry too much. Siigari is contributes to the forum if nothing else by posting crazy ideas no one else would. Maybe you should just try to look the other way if it angers you so.
This is what I was trying to say, I apologise for the particularly hamfisted way I attempted to do it.
Also, if you could just eve-mail those troll-points to this character, that'd be great. Thanks.
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Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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Katarlia Simov
Minmatar
Cowboys From Hell
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Posted - 2009.12.30 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Keiko ****uka
Maybe you should just try to look the other way if it angers you so.
You're clearly new to the internet. If something really sucks, then people will point it out, especially if the guy who created it thinks its awesome. Both of these points are INCREDIBLY relevant to anything Siig posts. They always suck, and yet he thinks they are awesome.
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Keiko Shizuka
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Posted - 2009.12.30 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Katarlia Simov
Originally by: Keiko ****uka
Maybe you should just try to look the other way if it angers you so.
You're clearly new to the internet. If something really sucks, then people will point it out, especially if the guy who created it thinks its awesome. Both of these points are INCREDIBLY relevant to anything Siig posts. They always suck, and yet he thinks they are awesome.
I'm an oldtimer actually. ;( I think the fact that he posts them even though some people cry and moan is totally awesome and I hope he never stops. There's too much pessimism and negativity going around, EVE needs people like Siigari or things would get stale and dull fast.
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2009.12.30 16:11:00 -
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seesh, if you dont like a specific posters posts, dont click on the thread, its really that easy. And to log in just to troll him only makes you look like a internet douche bag.
9meter sig is tiny and i expect it would be very hard to land any SIGnificant damage on wihtout painting it up and webbing it down.
If your lucky enough to have a freind wiht a titan willing to follow you around to provide some sick bonuses, more power to you!
for me, if i had halos and sig drugs id be flying an armor tanked navy stabber, but thats just me ;)
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Mathias814
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Posted - 2009.12.30 16:21:00 -
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Why do people get so excited about jumping on someone elses ideas? It is a far fethched situation that he is proposing with the tian and that, but i think its interesting what COULD be done however unlikely it is. If anything else its just somthing to laugh at
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Proxyyyy
Caldari
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.12.30 17:18:00 -
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Edited by: Proxyyyy on 30/12/2009 17:19:17
I think most on these forums tend to be to serious! Siig is a funny guy that many of you may think is "crazy" but he is realy good at pvp. Since theyre are many who talk about doing stuff on the eve o forums (auctualy in reality never do). Its nice to have someone like (siig), thinking outside of the box, bringing kool setups and leading very successful gangs with pimped ships while having great fun!
Plus I just wanna blow his ships up!
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Pr1ncess Alia
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.12.30 17:47:00 -
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what LOL AND YOU NEED A TITAN WITH A LOKI FBLBLAAAHH!!!! ur ******ed how terrible you are at this game and you don't even have a clue what you are talking about no PRACTICALITY and your WASTING THE FORUMS with this crap what the hell could you possibly be thinking. I swear to god you should DIAF (ingame) and you will with that TERRIBLE "OPERATING RANGE" and I know your an idiot and i've told you before your an idiot KBLAAHH!FLBLIREKLG:FHB!!! HOW DARE YOU??? This is LOL and you are pathetic.
Me? I'm here to help everyone and point out this crap as crap and thank god someone like me is around to keep these forums clean.
Ok, quick. Who am I pretending to be?
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Liang Nuren
The Lollypop Factory
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Posted - 2009.12.30 18:42:00 -
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The Titan may be unrealistic, but the max skilled mindlinked Loki isn't. Thanks for the idea Siig - I picked up some Halo implants not so long ago. 
-Liang
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Lexa Hellfury
Incura
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.12.30 18:44:00 -
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/me cringes.
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