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Katarlia Simov
Minmatar Cowboys From Hell
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Posted - 2009.12.31 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: Proxyyyy Edited by: Proxyyyy on 30/12/2009 17:19:17 I think most on these forums tend to be to serious! Siig is a funny guy that many of you may think is "crazy" but he is realy good at pvp. Since theyre are many who talk about doing stuff on the eve o forums (auctualy in reality never do). Its nice to have someone like (siig), thinking outside of the box, bringing kool setups and leading very successful gangs with pimped ships while having great fun!
Plus I just wanna blow his ships up!
Well then by all means, go and do so. Its not like its hard...
There doesn't seem to be a day without a couple of Siig threads on the top page, but don't confuse that for actual ability. Most people don't need to ask to know that spending 500mil on a t1 frig is pointless. Nuff said ...
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Wingardium Leviosa
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Posted - 2009.12.31 05:47:00 -
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This is why EFT is bad kids.
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2009.12.31 05:50:00 -
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Edited by: Artemis Rose on 31/12/2009 05:50:25 1. Neuts
2. Web
3. Light Drones
at your support gang. Sucks you would need a Titan and a Loki to get murdered by a small neut Arbirator/Vexor.
*** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |
Drazin DawnTreader
Cutthroat Mercenary Corp
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Posted - 2009.12.31 05:57:00 -
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While it is comical, it is also pretty cool.
@Artemis: Wouldn't he be too fast for drones and out of range of neuts and webs?
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2009.12.31 06:13:00 -
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Originally by: Drazin DawnTreader While it is comical, it is also pretty cool.
@Artemis: Wouldn't he be too fast for drones and out of range of neuts and webs?
He won't get any use of his highslots past those ranges. Without his Warriors, he'd barely push 30-40 DPS at safe ranges.
Hell, If he gets a Loki + Titan in his gang.. the other pilot should too. With HG Snakes, I bet you could whip a Cruor that would chase it down, neut it and destroy it. *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |
Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol HellFleet
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Posted - 2009.12.31 06:16:00 -
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Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 31/12/2009 06:21:53
Originally by: Artemis Rose
Originally by: Drazin DawnTreader While it is comical, it is also pretty cool.
@Artemis: Wouldn't he be too fast for drones and out of range of neuts and webs?
He won't get any use of his highslots past those ranges. Without his Warriors, he'd barely push 30-40 DPS at safe ranges.
Hell, If he gets a Loki + Titan in his gang.. the other pilot should too. With HG Snakes, I bet you could whip a Cruor that would chase it down, neut it and destroy it.
Actually Artemis, Blood Raider ships are the absolute slowest pirate ships in the game. Back when I started working a Cruor fit, I found HG snakes to be ineffective, because the ship can't do too well with speed. I think snakes put it around 6km/s MAXIMUM.
edit: just did some checking. Maximum speed for both Dread Guristas and Blood Raiders checks in at around 7km/s overloaded with snakes + hyper. Dread Guristas are actually slower, but Dread Guristas do not sacrifice tank for speed.
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Drazin DawnTreader
Cutthroat Mercenary Corp
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Posted - 2009.12.31 06:18:00 -
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you have to admit, it is kind of interesting. Just imagine those most hated stealth bombers running around with a signature of 10, moving at 1100m/s and being nearly impossible to land a hit on. Practical? No. Interesting? Yes.
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Aeon Storm
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.12.31 07:14:00 -
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Frankly the ship is not unreasonable.
Living in WH space, we tailor ships to the different system environments. As we are in a Wolf Rayet, we specialize in making unscannable, not easily hit ships. The sig reduction in a C6 Wolf Rayet is 50%. Put a command ship in the system, and I can safe spot a Hulk, and you're not going to find it.
Put that Dramiel in a C4 Wolf, without all the boosters, Halo, etc... and its still unscannable and very difficult to kill. Anything that can do 100+ dps that I can't find or kill has value, in the right environment.
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Jaxxon Voers
Gallente The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.12.31 08:46:00 -
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I for one hope you keep coming up with this stuff.
I had a hard day, and needed the laugh.
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2009.12.31 08:53:00 -
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Edited by: Artemis Rose on 31/12/2009 08:54:05
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Actually Artemis, Blood Raider ships are the absolute slowest pirate ships in the game. Back when I started working a Cruor fit, I found HG snakes to be ineffective, because the ship can't do too well with speed. I think snakes put it around 6km/s MAXIMUM.
edit: just did some checking. Maximum speed for both Dread Guristas and Blood Raiders checks in at around 7km/s overloaded with snakes + hyper. Dread Guristas are actually slower, but Dread Guristas do not sacrifice tank for speed.
You couldn't kill it. The Cruor's webbing bonus would take of your drones, and in order to remotely do anything to it, you'd have to get in neut/web range.
From outside of overheated faction web range, you'd be doing less than 25 DPS the farther you get out. Good luck on that one.
*** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |
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The Hanz
Caldari Mindstar Technology
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Posted - 2009.12.31 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 30/12/2009 13:31:59
Originally by: Benco97 I can only assume that all the people hating on Siig haven't been around very long, Siig knows more about the mechanics of this bloody game than all of us put together and it's INTERESTING to see what can be done!
Sure we've been around a long time. I remember one of his early threads involving a Navy Comet where I had to actually work to convince him that just because faction guns are more expensive than T2 doesn't mean they are better than T2, or that spending hundreds of millions of ISK on faction damage mods for low single digit dps increases is just plain stupid. And very predictably, he lost his comedy ship to a Drake within a week. Judging by his place in EVE history as the first person to lose a T3 ship (naturally within a week of posting a thread with his terrible fit for it), he hasn't learned much from that incident.
So no, he doesn't know more about game mechanics than everyone else, he just buys a ton of GTCs and throws lots of money at terrible ships and setups. Everyone with a little understanding of the game and access to EFT knows that you can get a tiny sig radius on a frigate by stacking gang mods, implants and titan bonuses, Siigari is just the only one who can't figure out that it's just unrealistic EFT abuse without posting a thread about it.
Of course you win some troll points for actually suggesting that Siigari knows more than anyone about game mechanics in a thread where he posted a setup involving six speed bonus modules. Or maybe he knows something about the stacking penalty that the rest of us mere mortals can't even begin to comprehend?
This. I now have much respect for you Merin Ryskin.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.12.31 11:40:00 -
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Siigari's mistake is basically to market these threads as "serious ideas" rather than "lol look what I did in EFT".
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Benco97
Gallente Shadow Veil Industrial
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Posted - 2009.12.31 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: The Hanz I now have much respect for you Merin Ryskin.
You have "Much respect" for someone because they hate to see anyone having fun? If Siig enjoys coming up with fits that are crazy and sharing them with us then what is the problem? It's not like it's affected anyone in any way (other than apparently putting Merin's panties in a twist) ______________________________________________
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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Solovej
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2009.12.31 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Benco97
Originally by: The Hanz I now have much respect for you Merin Ryskin.
You have "Much respect" for someone because they hate to see anyone having fun? If Siig enjoys coming up with fits that are crazy and sharing them with us then what is the problem? It's not like it's affected anyone in any way (other than apparently putting Merin's panties in a twist)
Dude sure there is some comedy value in Siig's posts and its Xmas and whatnot but you were actually suggesting he has uberknowledge and that was even funnier than his OP.
Essentially Siig is playing with him/herself and at the same time trolling noobs and semi noobs like you into thinking these can be uber ideas for TQ pvp...
Why Merun gets so worked up on behalf of you troll victims I dont know tbh... I an much with Liang (as often) in finding some originality value in the ideas ... Siig is obviously creative but its also obvious to mopst of us he must suck big time at TQ pvp...
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Citizen 121
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Posted - 2009.12.31 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III Siigari's mistake is basically to market these threads as "serious ideas" rather than "lol look what I did in EFT".
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chrisss0r
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Posted - 2009.12.31 14:32:00 -
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eft awesomeness gives me a stabber fleet issue with 34,5m sig radius, 3,82 km/s 526 dps
and all you need is a titan and a claymore
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Laura Baretta
Minmatar The Executives IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.31 15:33:00 -
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People have been flying frigs with AB speedtank forever, and some even use unprobable T3 command modules with them that just work as a bubble immune, cloaked and unprobeable scout.
As with everything in EvE, you can pimp it to the extreme and waste insane amounts of isk to get just that tiny little bit better. The question is, is it worth it to you?
And that, my friends, is the question that everyone has to answer to themself.
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Aunt Red
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Posted - 2009.12.31 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: chrisss0r
and all you need is a titan and a claymore
Are you saying you don't have a Titan and a Claymore in gang when you PVP?
Nooooooooooooob!
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2009.12.31 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 30/12/2009 18:09:38
Originally by: swedepicker What is the fit, hopefully its not a stupidly overpriced gtc funded one.
[Dramiel, suuuppaafasstt] Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II
1MN MicroWarpdrive II Gistii A-Type 1MN Afterburner Domination Warp Disruptor 'Investor' Tracking Disruptor I
200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S 200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket
Small Auxiliary Thrusters II Small Auxiliary Thrusters I Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Warrior II x3 Warrior II x1
Note: It would probably be worthwhile to switch to Domination or Republic Fleet overdrives in case you are the kind of person who enjoys LOOTING targets once in a while (read: you can't fit even a single cloak into this cargohold).
lol and what do you align at? Love eft --
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2009.12.31 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: The Hanz
Originally by: Merin Ryskin Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 30/12/2009 13:31:59
Originally by: Benco97 I can only assume that all the people hating on Siig haven't been around very long, Siig knows more about the mechanics of this bloody game than all of us put together and it's INTERESTING to see what can be done!
Sure we've been around a long time. I remember one of his early threads involving a Navy Comet where I had to actually work to convince him that just because faction guns are more expensive than T2 doesn't mean they are better than T2, or that spending hundreds of millions of ISK on faction damage mods for low single digit dps increases is just plain stupid. And very predictably, he lost his comedy ship to a Drake within a week. Judging by his place in EVE history as the first person to lose a T3 ship (naturally within a week of posting a thread with his terrible fit for it), he hasn't learned much from that incident.
So no, he doesn't know more about game mechanics than everyone else, he just buys a ton of GTCs and throws lots of money at terrible ships and setups. Everyone with a little understanding of the game and access to EFT knows that you can get a tiny sig radius on a frigate by stacking gang mods, implants and titan bonuses, Siigari is just the only one who can't figure out that it's just unrealistic EFT abuse without posting a thread about it.
Of course you win some troll points for actually suggesting that Siigari knows more than anyone about game mechanics in a thread where he posted a setup involving six speed bonus modules. Or maybe he knows something about the stacking penalty that the rest of us mere mortals can't even begin to comprehend?
This. I now have much respect for you Merin Ryskin.
I don't agree with Merin on a lot. But this, is perfect. --
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Admiral Yamamoto
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Posted - 2010.01.01 01:54:00 -
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No one has posted anything with the tracking formula yet... Hopefully info to come :)
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Securitas Protector
Task Force Zener Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.01 03:37:00 -
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I never knew you could get it that small.
Siig brightens up my day, so I'm all for this thread. Proud to be shaych |
Tippia
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.01 04:26:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Yamamoto Anyone wants to have a go at it to see what you'd need to do to be unhittable by frigate guns?
You can always hit something that has an angular velocity of 0, no matter how small the target and how cumbersome the guns are. The best you can hope for is that, if you reduce sig radius to zero, the formula will spit out the same divide-by-zero error that we used to get at zero range, which would just bug the whole thing out and make you miss. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol HellFleet
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Posted - 2010.01.01 04:55:00 -
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Happy New Year everybody.
You know, reading through some of the replies here I realize that I managed to turn a thread about something kinda cool I found into something that is nearly full of flames and it splits the thread down the line between two things: The actual thread content or people's like or dislike of me.
Regardless of the volume of my posts, the fact is if I posted this thread with some nameless face it would not get people posting "omg siigari lol" and would probably get less actual responses, but more responses actually regarding the post at hand. It bothers me that in order to read this thread I have to filter through personal attacks and other "side-taking" activities, rather than the meat of the matter which is a super small very fast frigate idea.
I don't understand you people. I'm just having fun discovering new things in Eve. As to my actual Eve experience, I believe I am a seasoned pilot with good knowledge in most areas of the game, mostly due to having dipped my head in just about every activity there is to do in Eve. I learn a lot about what I can do and then usually will obsess over something for a while (by obsess I mean I'll find something I think is really cool then be really into it for a while) then as I find something else neat I'll learn everything I can about that.
It helps me become more rounded as a pilot and Eve community contributor. I don't reply to EVERY THREAD out there, but when I feel I have some important information to contribute, I will chime in.
I dislike the fact that people feel that just because I post expensive fits they think I have no PVP capability. I take risks. I kill ships. I lose ships. I have fun. I don't make myself out to be the best Eve player ever; I am sure there are plenty of people out there who would lick me but in general I know that the experience I have gives me the ability to PVP well, both solo or in a group. People saying that I am a horrible PVPer may have never actually fought me.
It's interesting. One example of this would probably be Proxyyy, who a month ago was slandering my fits in the forums much akin to what Merin does, but then we actually encountered each other in Eve. I don't remember the actual engagement but we had a lot of fun and now we wave at each other in local when we see each other. I mean, a lot of people here make broad generalizations without having any foundation to base their judgement in. Be that the human condition, please keep it to experience here otherwise you are being plain mean and disrespectful of members of the community. This doesn't just go for me either. Every day I see a handful of people who just get beaten verbally into the ground for no reason at all and that hurts me to see that going on. When I come to these forums I wish to see a respectful community and instead I find a community full of childish remarks, comments and statements lashed out upon members for no reason. That is just distatesful and irresponsible.
If you want to be "bigger" than me, instead of using words like idiot, stupid and moron, try using words like unwise, uninformed and silly.
There's no reason to be mean to people just to feed your need to be right, ever.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.01 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Regardless of the volume of my posts, the fact is if I posted this thread with some nameless face it would not get people posting "omg siigari lol" and would probably get less actual responses, but more responses actually regarding the post at hand. It bothers me that in order to read this thread I have to filter through personal attacks and other "side-taking" activities, rather than the meat of the matter which is a super small very fast frigate idea.
No, we'd still call the alt a moron for posting a tackler frigate setup involving gang bonuses from a TITAN, we just wouldn't have the extra bonus of knowing it was posted by one of the worst players in the game.
Quote: I don't understand you people. I'm just having fun discovering new things in Eve. As to my actual Eve experience, I believe I am a seasoned pilot with good knowledge in most areas of the game, mostly due to having dipped my head in just about every activity there is to do in Eve. I learn a lot about what I can do and then usually will obsess over something for a while (by obsess I mean I'll find something I think is really cool then be really into it for a while) then as I find something else neat I'll learn everything I can about that.
You? Good knowledge of the game? Do I need to dig up the thread where you hilariously attempted to "explain" how tracking works and how you suffer a damage reduction even at zero transversal?
Quote: I dislike the fact that people feel that just because I post expensive fits they think I have no PVP capability. I take risks. I kill ships. I lose ships. I have fun. I don't make myself out to be the best Eve player ever; I am sure there are plenty of people out there who would lick me but in general I know that the experience I have gives me the ability to PVP well, both solo or in a group. People saying that I am a horrible PVPer may have never actually fought me.
It's not the fact that you post expensive fits that makes you bad at PvP. Other people post even more expensive fits with no problem, you just:
1) Post either really bad setups (such as this one) or maybe at best a basic cookie-cutter setup with all the T2 modules replaced with faction/officer stuff. Since the setup is exactly the same as the T2 setups, we can conclude that the main reason for posting it is to brag about how much ISK you have.
2) Die embarrassingly in your expensive ships. I mean, not only did you manage to get the first T3 loss in EVE, you managed to get the SECOND one as well. While other people post impressive videos of them soloing entire fleets in their expensive ships, you just manage to end up on someone's killboard by losing your billion ISK comedy ship to a BattleBadger.
3) Fund it all with GTCs. That's the really hilarious part, your entire "skill" consists of getting out your credit card and buying a bunch of faction modules. ----------- FREE ABATHUR - HAVING GOOD 0.0 IDEAS IS NOT A CRIME.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol HellFleet
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Posted - 2010.01.01 19:26:00 -
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Since you love pulling up old experiences and fixating on them, tell me how the alleged worst player in Eve has a higher rank than you.
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Drazin DawnTreader
Cutthroat Mercenary Corp
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Posted - 2010.01.01 20:34:00 -
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good question. You've lost almost as many ships as he's killed. You have a 2:1 kill/death ratio vs his 8:1 and you've incurred 44 bil worth of losses to his 4 bil. You have done 84 bil in damages, to his 33 bil, but your isk per kill is roughly the same.
I am assuming the battleclinic board just cares about how many people were in on the kill and not about anything else.
I'm ranked worse than Merin and I have +1700 kills with only 26 losses, a 64:1 kill/death ratio and have only incurred 2.2 bil in losses and done 143 bil in damages. But most of my kills are in fleet and not solo. Plus I kill lots of pods in my Inty and Bomber which dont count for crap.
I'd say the killboard ranking means very little in determining a pilots success given I have more kills than both of you combined and done more isk damage than both of you combined, with only 26 career losses to your 429 and his 61.
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.01 20:36:00 -
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While I have no intention of getting into this, I will point out that BC stats are highly irrelevant. Some do not post their kills (me included) and some have alts. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html |
James Tritanius
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Posted - 2010.01.01 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: James Tritanius on 01/01/2010 20:53:33 Edited by: James Tritanius on 01/01/2010 20:53:02
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Since you love pulling up old experiences and fixating on them, tell me how the alleged worst player in Eve has a higher rank than you.
Posting to confirm that BC stats mean everything in a debate.
EDIT: somehow links got screwed up.
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2010.01.01 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Since you love pulling up old experiences and fixating on them, tell me how the alleged worst player in Eve has a higher rank than you.
Not to be a ****, but you really put all of your kills in **** like battleclinic and greifwatch? --
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