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Imbosol Norand
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Posted - 2010.01.01 09:11:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Jan Stone
When I started Eve no one warned me about gankers, and within 1 week of having a retriever, I went pop.
Hulkageddon however doesnÆt bother me, cos I detest (sorry) macro/afk miners. The concern I have is this: Is everyone gunning for macro/afk miners only or all Hulk pilots.
The headline is Hulkageddon: donÆt AFK mine.
But whats to stop someone webbing or scrambling a pilot who isnÆt afk.
IÆve had this before, but luck was a corp mate helped out.
Also is there anyway of getting involved without lossing security status? My Gallente status is quite high and donÆt really want it to drop.
I believe its hulks in general, if it was only the macro miners being targeted it would be good, hell i could direct people to a number of them. Events like this will in no way fix the problem, it will just change it slightly as the macro'ers evolve, or move to very remote systems.
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Jath Tola
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Posted - 2010.01.01 09:37:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Golden Helmet
All Hulks and other Exhumers are valid targets, macro \ afk or not.
As for sec status, nope, there's no way to avoid it. You can try can flipping, but, well, that wouldn't be suicide ganking
Not only that, but if it's a macro like you're hoping to kill it's probably not can mining anyway, so flipping becomes considerably more difficult.
If you're that against macrominers (and I can agree with you in this respect), send the names and locations of a few macro hulks to friends who are participating, and if any are in the area maybe they'll oblige. 
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Imagonnawhupya
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Posted - 2010.01.01 12:55:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Jath Tola
If you're that against macrominers (and I can agree with you in this respect), send the names and locations of a few macro hulks to friends who are participating, and if any are in the area maybe they'll oblige.
That idea actually has potential. Helicity Boson, hows about looking into setting up a group of players who might be worried about sec status or just don't have the skills for ganking, but want to participate? They can be scouts for the ganking squads. Their goal is to try to convo with any hulk they come across, and if they get no response, they can report to the squads.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2010.01.01 13:33:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Imagonnawhupya
Originally by: Jath Tola
If you're that against macrominers (and I can agree with you in this respect), send the names and locations of a few macro hulks to friends who are participating, and if any are in the area maybe they'll oblige.
That idea actually has potential. Helicity Boson, hows about looking into setting up a group of players who might be worried about sec status or just don't have the skills for ganking, but want to participate? They can be scouts for the ganking squads. Their goal is to try to convo with any hulk they come across, and if they get no response, they can report to the squads.
This will alert more miners to their impending danger rather than helping.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.01 13:50:00 -
[35]
I think some people are placing too much emphasis on the macro- part of many miners.
This is not some altruistic festival of game-balance restoration. This is a mean spirited and evil activity aimed to extract tears in the same fashion miners extract minerals.
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Boink'urr
Minmatar
Wasserette De Tarthorst
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Posted - 2010.01.01 13:51:00 -
[36]
How exactly is Eve a 'dark cold place' again with all these fully insured lolgankfits?
Somebody xplain :D
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Jones Bones
Final Agony
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Posted - 2010.01.01 13:51:00 -
[37]
I need to start building hundreds of thrashers and coercers for my corp. Ugh. Too hungover.
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Imagonnawhupya
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Posted - 2010.01.01 14:04:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
I think some people are placing too much emphasis on the macro- part of many miners.
This is not some altruistic festival of game-balance restoration. This is a mean spirited and evil activity aimed to extract tears in the same fashion miners extract minerals.
*smacks forehead*
Of course, I forgot. That's why its in C&P in the first place. My conscience and sense of fair play somehow got loose from the locked pit I dropped them in. I will now forcefully return them to their chains. 
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Jath Tola
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Posted - 2010.01.01 16:14:00 -
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My only suggestion was (and remains) to tip off local Hulkageddon participants to unattended (i.e. AFK) hulks, in the event that players are unable or unwilling to gank for themselves. This of course would include macro miners, for which Jan has expressed distaste, and whose comment inspired my suggestion. I'm an engineer. I fix things; in this case, Jan's inability to participate in the melee directly.
I am in agreement that sending out teams of scouts to find hulks is tantamount to scaring away the fish. In any case, gankfit destroyers should have no problem sweeping through multiple systems and belts rapidly, making scouts unnecessary. I would, however, take great pleasure in seeing a team of gankfit navitas or other free-mining-tutorial frigates converging on a hulk in a noob system (where beginner mining frigates are commonplace and often ignored out of hand) and reducing said hulk to scrap before being offed by CONCORD. The fraps alone would be worth the (rather minimal) expense.
That idea would require a lot of planning and coordination, since it would take half a legion of navitas to down a hulk before CONCORD stepped in, particularly in a 0.9 or 1.0 system. Perhaps I'll bring it up during the planning of Hulkageddon III, when I can do it justice (i.e. supply the ships for participants and possibly a prize for the dealer of the final blow).
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sir gankalot
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Posted - 2010.01.01 16:20:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Mashie Saldana
My battle Hulk should be ready in time for this for some Hulk on Hulk love.
Ur going to gank Hulks in a hulk? Sounds spensive....
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Mara Tessidar
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Posted - 2010.01.01 16:41:00 -
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Please kill as many hulks as possible.
After all, my mining company doesn't like competition from those stupid high-seccers.
--
Quote:
Your tactical brilliance shines with the intensity of a thousand suns. No, wait...that's your fleet commander turning into a rapidly-expanding particle cloud.
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odst Captain15
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Posted - 2010.01.01 19:57:00 -
[42]
Edited by: odst Captain15 on 01/01/2010 19:57:35
i endorse this and proudly say me and a friend gave four lucky miners a new years gift in the form of a pair of thorax's ganking them.
http://1142-k.eve-tools.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=311
http://1142-k.eve-tools.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=313
http://1142-k.eve-tools.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=313
http://1142-k.eve-tools.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=315.
thorax's are ideal for this task and are really cheap (100k isk lost per gank with insurance) we got two gistii b types small shield boosters, so not a bad profit.
thorax (hulkageddon fit)
highs
5 medium regulated neutron blaster I's
mids
1 scrambler I
2 webifier I
lows
5 of the cheapest named magstabs
Drones: 5 hammerhead I's
really easy to gank a hulk with just two people using thorax's.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.02 00:16:00 -
[43]
Edited by: Helicity Boson on 02/01/2010 00:17:05
And the lulz are starting to pile up \o/
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1242925
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.02 00:55:00 -
[44]
until you run into a vet player with skills an isk to match. You can tank a Hulk very well if you bother to learn how. I am gonna laugh if the miners kick off an start returning the favor :D
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.02 01:16:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Zill
until you run into a vet player with skills an isk to match. You can tank a Hulk very well if you bother to learn how. I am gonna laugh if the miners kick off an start returning the favor :D
Im sure it will happen at LEAST once (in fact i am betting on it).
But you know as well as I do that the vast majority of players in this game have...well... no clue.
(earlier today i killed an armageddon that had an assortment of 200 and 400mm plates and an overdrive in the lows, and a shield booster in the mids with a mix of medium and large lasers. mankind is indeed doomed)
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.02 01:21:00 -
[46]
ROFL! ok now that is funny, I feel sorry for the guy since none has obviously taught him anything. But that is just hysterical. btw I agree with you, the vast majority have no clue an suffer for it :)
good luck on weekend either way. 
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.02 01:25:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Zill
ROFL! ok now that is funny, I feel sorry for the guy since none has obviously taught him anything. But that is just hysterical. btw I agree with you, the vast majority have no clue an suffer for it :)
good luck on weekend either way.
We all did some silly things early on in our careers, but there is just a whole pack of people that are TOO LAZY to educate themselves on how the game works. There is a wealth of information about eve out there, and thousands of people you could ask questions. that's how i got to be half-decent, and i learn something new every day still.
I blame television, and the passive attitude it engenders.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.02 02:36:00 -
[48]
I try an teach newbes in Scope bout highsec, but its an uphill battle. I treat highsec same as 0.0 I have safe jumps, zero jumps BM's on top of gates u name it. I watch local an I watch my belt if I am mining. Sadly you cant teach them what it was like back in Jihad days. Thats where I learned :) (goonies taught me) indirectly.
Piece of advice from an ex miner, check the dead end systems when this kicks off. Alot of miners are scattering to the more remote area's with 2-3 belts in system, the ones with 20+ belts are a dead give away.
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Ross Arrow
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.02 03:23:00 -
[49]
I think anyone taking part is an idiot with nothing of use to give to Eve.
I will be mining as normal.
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Clair Bear
Ursine Research and Production
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Posted - 2010.01.02 03:52:00 -
[50]
Public service announcement: if you're too lazy to directional scan belts for hulks, just look at Ombey's maps and find systems with high sec ice belts. For instance, Osmon has 3 ice belts and 88 miners AFK at the big, never depleting ice rocks. You can find clusters of up to 6 in smartbomb range suckling an orca if you bother to look.
Anyone interested in racking up some kills in my back yard -- give me a shout. I've got a large selection of smartbombs, megathrons, navy antimatter L and meta3 large neutrons there I could be talked into parting with cheaply.
Just watch out for pre-spawned concord. I try to do what I can to keep the system clean, but it's a losing battle.
And in summary, bigger blobs are the answer. Now what was the question? |
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Glarion Garnier
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.02 15:40:00 -
[51]
How many hulk bpo's does the op and he's buddies have is IMO a valid question.
Naturally there should be more incentive for ppl to mine in low sec and in 0.0 for there to be more targets in the form of miners. I just wonder the motives behind this Hulkageddon thing. Since what generates so much bad blood towards afk miners i wonder. Is it emotional or financial or perhaps just an new idea.
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-be vary of the men behind the curtain-
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.02 16:05:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Glarion Garnier
I just wonder the motives behind this Hulkageddon thing. Since what generates so much bad blood towards afk miners i wonder. Is it emotional or financial or perhaps just an new idea.
It makes us laugh. A lot.
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usrevenge
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Posted - 2010.01.02 19:25:00 -
[53]
yay i will make money selling hulks thanx to kids!!
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Alexei Chernobyl
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Posted - 2010.01.02 20:21:00 -
[54]
Originally by: usrevenge
yay i will make money selling hulks thanx to kids!!
We do what we can, good sir.
Remember to mark up the prices by at least 15%. They'll still pay, just so they can get back to reading or gardening or whatever it is those strange AFK miners really do. Because I refuse to believe they stare at the laser. Doesn't it have some warning label stuck to it saying that's a bad idea?
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.02 21:16:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Glarion Garnier
I just wonder the motives behind this Hulkageddon thing. Since what generates so much bad blood towards afk miners i wonder. Is it emotional or financial or perhaps just an new idea.
It makes us laugh. A lot.
This is an old idea. In Wow we used to offer prizes for the best gold farmer gank of the weekend. 2 days a strait,48 hours you had ot kill as many farmers an bots in as many varied an messy ways as you could dream up. Names places an times with a killshot had to be posted on the website to prove what you did. It was very popular.
I don't have any issues with this at all, but I do think insurance needs to be removed.
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Alexei Chernobyl
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Posted - 2010.01.02 21:23:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Zill
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Glarion Garnier
I just wonder the motives behind this Hulkageddon thing. Since what generates so much bad blood towards afk miners i wonder. Is it emotional or financial or perhaps just an new idea.
It makes us laugh. A lot.
This is an old idea. In Wow we used to offer prizes for the best gold farmer gank of the weekend. 2 days a strait,48 hours you had ot kill as many farmers an bots in as many varied an messy ways as you could dream up. Names places an times with a killshot had to be posted on the website to prove what you did. It was very popular.
I don't have any issues with this at all, but I do think insurance needs to be removed.
Consider the insurance payment for our participation in the sport. The prizes are just for winning the league.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.02 21:33:00 -
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I do think highsec needs risk, but all the risk is one sided. There is no risk for gankers, only the ones getting hunted. Force people who wanna kill others to lose something, then you balance the playing field.
Most highsec miners today have no clue of what jihad was like, they dotn watch local, they dont watch their belt, nor do they tank their ships or align to warp. If you treat highsec same as 0.0 you will never be ganked. You will never be killed ever if you just play smart.
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Stop Posting
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Posted - 2010.01.02 21:56:00 -
[58]
Zill likes caldari
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.02 22:10:00 -
[59]
I'm a reformed carebear mate hehe, Caldari is the best for carebears :D
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.02 22:12:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Zill
I'm a reformed carebear mate hehe, Caldari is the best for carebears :D
At least caldari don't seem to want me to die from colon cancer...
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