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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.31 09:30:00 -
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Edited by: Helicity Boson on 31/12/2009 09:30:50
Welcome once again!
In a little over a week, Hulkageddon II will commence! By now (as you have doubtlessly learned) we have amassed a rather significant amount of prizes, somewhere in the 8-10 billion isk range in a variety of categories. I just have to add an armageddon and some small stuff to the prize list later today, but itÆs essentially finished. At this point I would like to ask that you do not send in anymore physical prizes.
The Jackpot
There have been a few questions about this. The jackpot will be awarded to a random participant by means of a number drawn from a digital hat. I will probably have Chribba or some other public figure like mynxee do the drawing so there is no accusations of funny business. The Jackpot is currently just shy of 1.2 Billion isk!
If you want to sponsor Hulkageddon, please donate some isk to Hulkageddon Jackpot in game.
ôBut wasnÆt the jackpot already over 1.2b helicity?ö
Yes, yes it was! this brings me to the next point on my agenda:
Hulkageddon Orphanage
I have skimmed a few iskies off the jackpot to buy some skillbooks for the jackpot character and open up a corporation. Hulkageddon orphanage is a temporary corp where solo players or alts can apply to have some company during the event.
So, if you donÆt have anyone to fly with, you might consider joining up here and hooking up with some other solo pilots. Unfortunately I will NOT have the time to hold your hand in there, so IÆd ask that some of the more experienced players that join the orphanage help other members and coordinate their own strikes.
At the end of the event there will be a nice little surprise for the participating orphans (a collectorÆs item no less!)
Jackpot is still training a few skills, so I will not be accepting applications till the 6th of january.
If you would like to help with the orphanage or organize some gangs for the orphans please send an evemail to hulkageddon jackpot and I will get back to you.
The Hulkageddon guessing game!
Is still open, and hasnÆt really gotten the attention it deserves! Go to this thread and read the instructions and place your bets!
Misc. Tips
Even though you still have more than a week to go, I strongly recommend you begin preparations right away. Last time, the (then much more low-key) hulkageddon event bought out EVERY CATALYST IN JITA. So if you donÆt want to end up without any ships to fly during the event, you might want to stock up now. If there is any builders reading this, feel free to use this thread to advertise your goods as well.
The in-game channel is open!
I have opened up the ingame channel, which is suprisingly named: ôHulkageddon IIö today, so if you wanna hang out with the other holy warriors, feel free to join and chat at your leisure. This might also be a good place for the novice ganker to ask questions
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Lexa Hellfury
Incura
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.12.31 09:32:00 -
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Easily claims first post.
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Frug
Omega Wing
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Posted - 2009.12.31 09:41:00 -
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Awesome. I fully support this horrible, evil, mean spirited endeavor.
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If you think I'm awesome say BOOO
BOOO!! - Ductoris
Neat look what I found - Kreul
Whisper/PrismX 4 emperor |
JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.12.31 10:04:00 -
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Poor Hulks.
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Mashie Saldana
Hooligans Of War
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Posted - 2009.12.31 10:13:00 -
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My battle Hulk should be ready in time for this for some Hulk on Hulk love.
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Andrea Skye
Caldari
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.31 10:53:00 -
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Confirming I am the jackpot charactor, send isk to me please. Thanks!
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.31 10:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Andrea Skye
Confirming I am the jackpot charactor, send isk to me please. Thanks!
you wish :P
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Larkonis TrassIer
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.12.31 14:30:00 -
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Godspeed gankers.
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Sola Khron
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Posted - 2009.12.31 15:18:00 -
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Well Im prepared and waiting for you to come try to gank me in 0.0. Hope to see you soon!
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.12.31 15:32:00 -
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THE SCOTTISH FOLD APPROVES OF THIS THREAD.
SOON MANY HULKS WILL PERISH IN THE NAME OF THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
HALLOWED ARE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
THEIR WILL SHALL BE DONE!! |
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Fulbert
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.31 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Helicity Boson
Misc. Tips
Even though you still have more than a week to go, I strongly recommend you begin preparations right away. Last time, the (then much more low-key) hulkageddon event bought out EVERY CATALYST IN JITA. So if you donÆt want to end up without any ships to fly during the event, you might want to stock up now. If there is any builders reading this, feel free to use this thread to advertise your goods as well.
So, this is why i'm doing an insane 100% margin on my Catalysts these days?
Lulz, i'm going to make more money than i would likely loose by staying docked ^^
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Fulbert.
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Imagonnawhupya
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Posted - 2009.12.31 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: FunzzeR
THE SCOTTISH FOLD APPROVES OF THIS THREAD.
SOON MANY HULKS WILL PERISH IN THE NAME OF THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
HALLOWED ARE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
HALLOWED ARE THE ORI!!
Oh wait, wrong Scifi theme...
Looking forward to the 6th so I can join the Hulkageddon Orphanage. Me's a lonely rifter pilot looking for some freinds...
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.12.31 16:55:00 -
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.31 19:00:00 -
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bumping this in hopes people stop posting in the old topic
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Pewbly
Gallente
Monsters
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Posted - 2009.12.31 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Helicity Boson
Even though you still have more than a week to go, I strongly recommend you begin preparations right away. Last time, the (then much more low-key) hulkageddon event bought out EVERY CATALYST IN JITA. So if you donÆt want to end up without any ships to fly during the event, you might want to stock up now. If there is any builders reading this, feel free to use this thread to advertise your goods as well.
This. We took a freighter to Jita a week ago and bought every single Light Neutron Blaster I on the market, it's going to be tough to get your gear once this starts.
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The Crushah
Gallente
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.12.31 19:50:00 -
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Im a gonna kill me some hulks.
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William Caldon
Caldari
Golden Cross Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.12.31 21:04:00 -
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And then we wonder why Hulk prices are so high...
not that I'm complaining of course. There are some people who need to experience loss of their barges sometime...then mineral prices might be worth something =)
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V0latar
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Posted - 2009.12.31 21:18:00 -
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so what would be a catalyst fit recommended by the hulkageddon team? i dont have too much iskies to burn.
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Imagonnawhupya
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Posted - 2009.12.31 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: V0latar
so what would be a catalyst fit recommended by the hulkageddon team? i dont have too much iskies to burn.
Same question for Thrasher.
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The Crushah
Gallente
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.12.31 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: The Crushah on 31/12/2009 22:04:37
Originally by: V0latar
so what would be a catalyst fit recommended by the hulkageddon team? i dont have too much iskies to burn.
Hi: 8x light neutron blaster I with faction antimatter
Mid: sensor booster I's
low: 2x MFS I
thrasher is the same:
Hi:7x 280mm howitzer I with RP EMP or PP
Mid: 3x sensor booster I
low: 2x gyro I
alternatively one on your team can put a point in the mids, but if the miner is sitting still it usually doesnt matter, they wont get out in time.
With good skills, a destroyer can take down a retriever solo in 0.5, 0.6 but for a hulk youll need at least 4 or so to get enough dps.
Edit: also note that your respective warp in points will vary. The catalyst needs to drop in on the miner at 0, while the thrashers should drop in at 10km.
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dtyk
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Posted - 2010.01.01 01:54:00 -
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Contracts up for some catalysts.
Cost: 3.5 mil (3 500 000 ISK)
Includes:
2 catalysts
4 Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
4 Sensor Booster I
16 Light Neutron Blaster I
160 Caldari Navy Antimatter S
Location: Jita 4-4
More contracts will be made as buy orders and production jobs for catalysts fill. At start, 25 packages of 2 ships each are available.
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Strikovsky
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Posted - 2010.01.01 02:02:00 -
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as a hulk pilot and a contributor to this event, i support this thread. go forth carebear gankers and bring back much carnage and miner tears. I await great stories from both the givers and receivers of this wonderful event.
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Hot Fudge
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.01.01 02:43:00 -
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Basilisk pilot for hire... cheap rates! :D
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Major Cannabis
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Posted - 2010.01.01 03:39:00 -
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Edited by: Major Cannabis on 01/01/2010 03:40:55
Let me tell all you s****sucker gankers (What is a ganker?)(I'm a noob)Anyway, if any of you low life pigs try to blow up my hulk, i'll f--king put a big price on your head. You'll have nightmares and be looking under your beds, and in your closets at nights wondering when I'm gonna chop off that ugly sap sucking pathetic head of yours! Oh wait, I don't even own a hulk! Oh, sorry, never mind :) Oh, and good luck in the tourny! I gotta quit smoking weed
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Jenny Twotone
Eve Unity
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Posted - 2010.01.01 04:00:00 -
[25]
please sir, share whatever it is you re growing and smoking.
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Jath Tola
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Posted - 2010.01.01 06:48:00 -
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At last count Catalysts were going for under 650k ISK in Genesis. Dunno how the prices are in and around Jita (or if there are any left to buy). If you want to stock up for fairly cheap, take a quick trip out here.  Close to 100 available under 700k, it looks like.
Personally, I'm not competent enough yet (haven't the skills nor the funds) to participate directly, but I or my more piratey alt may be out in a rifter to tag along and watch the carnage. It'll be a nice break from grinding low-level missions and can mining. (No, I can't afford a Hulk - I would hardly be so jovial if I were a hulk miner right about now.)
Any assistance I can offer to those intrepid gankers who will be flying next week? I can, I suppose, cook up some MFS and SB's to sell or donate to the cause, as it appears that some poor orphans may be in need of such things. It's like Toys for Tots, except instead of toys they get increased DPS. I'd love to help with the Catalyst supply, but I'm not rolling in quite that much dough (as I think I mentioned above).
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2010.01.01 07:09:00 -
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I'm busting a nut here trying to get trained up for my Hulk Of Doom, but I don't think it will happen on time.
I was looking forward to having a ton of KMs with my HOD as the victor. Ah well... being that most Hulk gankers are simply too stupid for PVP, I will have plenty of opportunity in the future. Just not as target rich as that special time known as Hulkageddon.
Have fun people and I'll be ready for next year.
Mr Epeen 
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Imbosol Norand
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Posted - 2010.01.01 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Epeen
I'm busting a nut here trying to get trained up for my Hulk Of Doom, but I don't think it will happen on time.
I was looking forward to having a ton of KMs with my HOD as the victor. Ah well... being that most Hulk gankers are simply too stupid for PVP, I will have plenty of opportunity in the future. Just not as target rich as that special time known as Hulkageddon.
Have fun people and I'll be ready for next year.
Mr Epeen
I wont be ready with sufficient tank skills in time for this event, next time, for sure, so i will park my hulks for a while and use covetors, its only a small loss in yield, nothing that i cant deal with, about the only annoyance will be the reduced hold space, which will fill while my hauler is doing the round trip. Good luck all, happy hunting.
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Jan Stone
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Posted - 2010.01.01 08:55:00 -
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When I started Eve no one warned me about gankers, and within 1 week of having a retriever, I went pop.
Hulkageddon however doesnÆt bother me, cos I detest (sorry) macro/afk miners. The concern I have is this: Is everyone gunning for macro/afk miners only or all Hulk pilots.
The headline is Hulkageddon: donÆt AFK mine.
But whats to stop someone webbing or scrambling a pilot who isnÆt afk.
IÆve had this before, but luck was a corp mate helped out.
Also is there anyway of getting involved without lossing security status? My Gallente status is quite high and donÆt really want it to drop.
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Golden Helmet
Caldari
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.01 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Jan Stone
When I started Eve no one warned me about gankers, and within 1 week of having a retriever, I went pop.
Hulkageddon however doesnÆt bother me, cos I detest (sorry) macro/afk miners. The concern I have is this: Is everyone gunning for macro/afk miners only or all Hulk pilots.
The headline is Hulkageddon: donÆt AFK mine.
But whats to stop someone webbing or scrambling a pilot who isnÆt afk.
IÆve had this before, but luck was a corp mate helped out.
Also is there anyway of getting involved without lossing security status? My Gallente status is quite high and donÆt really want it to drop.
All Hulks and other Exhumers are valid targets, macro \ afk or not.
As for sec status, nope, there's no way to avoid it. You can try can flipping, but, well, that wouldn't be suicide ganking
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Imbosol Norand
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Posted - 2010.01.01 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: Jan Stone
When I started Eve no one warned me about gankers, and within 1 week of having a retriever, I went pop.
Hulkageddon however doesnÆt bother me, cos I detest (sorry) macro/afk miners. The concern I have is this: Is everyone gunning for macro/afk miners only or all Hulk pilots.
The headline is Hulkageddon: donÆt AFK mine.
But whats to stop someone webbing or scrambling a pilot who isnÆt afk.
IÆve had this before, but luck was a corp mate helped out.
Also is there anyway of getting involved without lossing security status? My Gallente status is quite high and donÆt really want it to drop.
I believe its hulks in general, if it was only the macro miners being targeted it would be good, hell i could direct people to a number of them. Events like this will in no way fix the problem, it will just change it slightly as the macro'ers evolve, or move to very remote systems.
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Jath Tola
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Posted - 2010.01.01 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Golden Helmet
All Hulks and other Exhumers are valid targets, macro \ afk or not.
As for sec status, nope, there's no way to avoid it. You can try can flipping, but, well, that wouldn't be suicide ganking
Not only that, but if it's a macro like you're hoping to kill it's probably not can mining anyway, so flipping becomes considerably more difficult.
If you're that against macrominers (and I can agree with you in this respect), send the names and locations of a few macro hulks to friends who are participating, and if any are in the area maybe they'll oblige. 
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Imagonnawhupya
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Posted - 2010.01.01 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jath Tola
If you're that against macrominers (and I can agree with you in this respect), send the names and locations of a few macro hulks to friends who are participating, and if any are in the area maybe they'll oblige.
That idea actually has potential. Helicity Boson, hows about looking into setting up a group of players who might be worried about sec status or just don't have the skills for ganking, but want to participate? They can be scouts for the ganking squads. Their goal is to try to convo with any hulk they come across, and if they get no response, they can report to the squads.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2010.01.01 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Imagonnawhupya
Originally by: Jath Tola
If you're that against macrominers (and I can agree with you in this respect), send the names and locations of a few macro hulks to friends who are participating, and if any are in the area maybe they'll oblige.
That idea actually has potential. Helicity Boson, hows about looking into setting up a group of players who might be worried about sec status or just don't have the skills for ganking, but want to participate? They can be scouts for the ganking squads. Their goal is to try to convo with any hulk they come across, and if they get no response, they can report to the squads.
This will alert more miners to their impending danger rather than helping.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.01 13:50:00 -
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I think some people are placing too much emphasis on the macro- part of many miners.
This is not some altruistic festival of game-balance restoration. This is a mean spirited and evil activity aimed to extract tears in the same fashion miners extract minerals.
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Boink'urr
Minmatar
Wasserette De Tarthorst
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Posted - 2010.01.01 13:51:00 -
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How exactly is Eve a 'dark cold place' again with all these fully insured lolgankfits?
Somebody xplain :D
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Jones Bones
Final Agony
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Posted - 2010.01.01 13:51:00 -
[37]
I need to start building hundreds of thrashers and coercers for my corp. Ugh. Too hungover.
Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Imagonnawhupya
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Posted - 2010.01.01 14:04:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
I think some people are placing too much emphasis on the macro- part of many miners.
This is not some altruistic festival of game-balance restoration. This is a mean spirited and evil activity aimed to extract tears in the same fashion miners extract minerals.
*smacks forehead*
Of course, I forgot. That's why its in C&P in the first place. My conscience and sense of fair play somehow got loose from the locked pit I dropped them in. I will now forcefully return them to their chains. 
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Jath Tola
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Posted - 2010.01.01 16:14:00 -
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My only suggestion was (and remains) to tip off local Hulkageddon participants to unattended (i.e. AFK) hulks, in the event that players are unable or unwilling to gank for themselves. This of course would include macro miners, for which Jan has expressed distaste, and whose comment inspired my suggestion. I'm an engineer. I fix things; in this case, Jan's inability to participate in the melee directly.
I am in agreement that sending out teams of scouts to find hulks is tantamount to scaring away the fish. In any case, gankfit destroyers should have no problem sweeping through multiple systems and belts rapidly, making scouts unnecessary. I would, however, take great pleasure in seeing a team of gankfit navitas or other free-mining-tutorial frigates converging on a hulk in a noob system (where beginner mining frigates are commonplace and often ignored out of hand) and reducing said hulk to scrap before being offed by CONCORD. The fraps alone would be worth the (rather minimal) expense.
That idea would require a lot of planning and coordination, since it would take half a legion of navitas to down a hulk before CONCORD stepped in, particularly in a 0.9 or 1.0 system. Perhaps I'll bring it up during the planning of Hulkageddon III, when I can do it justice (i.e. supply the ships for participants and possibly a prize for the dealer of the final blow).
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sir gankalot
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Posted - 2010.01.01 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Mashie Saldana
My battle Hulk should be ready in time for this for some Hulk on Hulk love.
Ur going to gank Hulks in a hulk? Sounds spensive....
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Mara Tessidar
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Posted - 2010.01.01 16:41:00 -
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Please kill as many hulks as possible.
After all, my mining company doesn't like competition from those stupid high-seccers.
--
Quote:
Your tactical brilliance shines with the intensity of a thousand suns. No, wait...that's your fleet commander turning into a rapidly-expanding particle cloud.
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odst Captain15
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Posted - 2010.01.01 19:57:00 -
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Edited by: odst Captain15 on 01/01/2010 19:57:35
i endorse this and proudly say me and a friend gave four lucky miners a new years gift in the form of a pair of thorax's ganking them.
http://1142-k.eve-tools.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=311
http://1142-k.eve-tools.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=313
http://1142-k.eve-tools.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=313
http://1142-k.eve-tools.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=315.
thorax's are ideal for this task and are really cheap (100k isk lost per gank with insurance) we got two gistii b types small shield boosters, so not a bad profit.
thorax (hulkageddon fit)
highs
5 medium regulated neutron blaster I's
mids
1 scrambler I
2 webifier I
lows
5 of the cheapest named magstabs
Drones: 5 hammerhead I's
really easy to gank a hulk with just two people using thorax's.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.02 00:16:00 -
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Edited by: Helicity Boson on 02/01/2010 00:17:05
And the lulz are starting to pile up \o/
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1242925
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.02 00:55:00 -
[44]
until you run into a vet player with skills an isk to match. You can tank a Hulk very well if you bother to learn how. I am gonna laugh if the miners kick off an start returning the favor :D
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.02 01:16:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Zill
until you run into a vet player with skills an isk to match. You can tank a Hulk very well if you bother to learn how. I am gonna laugh if the miners kick off an start returning the favor :D
Im sure it will happen at LEAST once (in fact i am betting on it).
But you know as well as I do that the vast majority of players in this game have...well... no clue.
(earlier today i killed an armageddon that had an assortment of 200 and 400mm plates and an overdrive in the lows, and a shield booster in the mids with a mix of medium and large lasers. mankind is indeed doomed)
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.02 01:21:00 -
[46]
ROFL! ok now that is funny, I feel sorry for the guy since none has obviously taught him anything. But that is just hysterical. btw I agree with you, the vast majority have no clue an suffer for it :)
good luck on weekend either way.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.02 01:25:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Zill
ROFL! ok now that is funny, I feel sorry for the guy since none has obviously taught him anything. But that is just hysterical. btw I agree with you, the vast majority have no clue an suffer for it :)
good luck on weekend either way.
We all did some silly things early on in our careers, but there is just a whole pack of people that are TOO LAZY to educate themselves on how the game works. There is a wealth of information about eve out there, and thousands of people you could ask questions. that's how i got to be half-decent, and i learn something new every day still.
I blame television, and the passive attitude it engenders.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.02 02:36:00 -
[48]
I try an teach newbes in Scope bout highsec, but its an uphill battle. I treat highsec same as 0.0 I have safe jumps, zero jumps BM's on top of gates u name it. I watch local an I watch my belt if I am mining. Sadly you cant teach them what it was like back in Jihad days. Thats where I learned :) (goonies taught me) indirectly.
Piece of advice from an ex miner, check the dead end systems when this kicks off. Alot of miners are scattering to the more remote area's with 2-3 belts in system, the ones with 20+ belts are a dead give away.
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Ross Arrow
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.02 03:23:00 -
[49]
I think anyone taking part is an idiot with nothing of use to give to Eve.
I will be mining as normal.
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Clair Bear
Ursine Research and Production
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Posted - 2010.01.02 03:52:00 -
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Public service announcement: if you're too lazy to directional scan belts for hulks, just look at Ombey's maps and find systems with high sec ice belts. For instance, Osmon has 3 ice belts and 88 miners AFK at the big, never depleting ice rocks. You can find clusters of up to 6 in smartbomb range suckling an orca if you bother to look.
Anyone interested in racking up some kills in my back yard -- give me a shout. I've got a large selection of smartbombs, megathrons, navy antimatter L and meta3 large neutrons there I could be talked into parting with cheaply.
Just watch out for pre-spawned concord. I try to do what I can to keep the system clean, but it's a losing battle.
And in summary, bigger blobs are the answer. Now what was the question? |
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Glarion Garnier
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.02 15:40:00 -
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How many hulk bpo's does the op and he's buddies have is IMO a valid question.
Naturally there should be more incentive for ppl to mine in low sec and in 0.0 for there to be more targets in the form of miners. I just wonder the motives behind this Hulkageddon thing. Since what generates so much bad blood towards afk miners i wonder. Is it emotional or financial or perhaps just an new idea.
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-be vary of the men behind the curtain-
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.02 16:05:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Glarion Garnier
I just wonder the motives behind this Hulkageddon thing. Since what generates so much bad blood towards afk miners i wonder. Is it emotional or financial or perhaps just an new idea.
It makes us laugh. A lot.
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usrevenge
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Posted - 2010.01.02 19:25:00 -
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yay i will make money selling hulks thanx to kids!!
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Alexei Chernobyl
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Posted - 2010.01.02 20:21:00 -
[54]
Originally by: usrevenge
yay i will make money selling hulks thanx to kids!!
We do what we can, good sir.
Remember to mark up the prices by at least 15%. They'll still pay, just so they can get back to reading or gardening or whatever it is those strange AFK miners really do. Because I refuse to believe they stare at the laser. Doesn't it have some warning label stuck to it saying that's a bad idea?
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.02 21:16:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Glarion Garnier
I just wonder the motives behind this Hulkageddon thing. Since what generates so much bad blood towards afk miners i wonder. Is it emotional or financial or perhaps just an new idea.
It makes us laugh. A lot.
This is an old idea. In Wow we used to offer prizes for the best gold farmer gank of the weekend. 2 days a strait,48 hours you had ot kill as many farmers an bots in as many varied an messy ways as you could dream up. Names places an times with a killshot had to be posted on the website to prove what you did. It was very popular.
I don't have any issues with this at all, but I do think insurance needs to be removed.
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Alexei Chernobyl
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Posted - 2010.01.02 21:23:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Zill
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Glarion Garnier
I just wonder the motives behind this Hulkageddon thing. Since what generates so much bad blood towards afk miners i wonder. Is it emotional or financial or perhaps just an new idea.
It makes us laugh. A lot.
This is an old idea. In Wow we used to offer prizes for the best gold farmer gank of the weekend. 2 days a strait,48 hours you had ot kill as many farmers an bots in as many varied an messy ways as you could dream up. Names places an times with a killshot had to be posted on the website to prove what you did. It was very popular.
I don't have any issues with this at all, but I do think insurance needs to be removed.
Consider the insurance payment for our participation in the sport. The prizes are just for winning the league.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.02 21:33:00 -
[57]
I do think highsec needs risk, but all the risk is one sided. There is no risk for gankers, only the ones getting hunted. Force people who wanna kill others to lose something, then you balance the playing field.
Most highsec miners today have no clue of what jihad was like, they dotn watch local, they dont watch their belt, nor do they tank their ships or align to warp. If you treat highsec same as 0.0 you will never be ganked. You will never be killed ever if you just play smart.
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Stop Posting
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Posted - 2010.01.02 21:56:00 -
[58]
Zill likes caldari
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.02 22:10:00 -
[59]
I'm a reformed carebear mate hehe, Caldari is the best for carebears :D
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.02 22:12:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Zill
I'm a reformed carebear mate hehe, Caldari is the best for carebears :D
At least caldari don't seem to want me to die from colon cancer...
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Krans Hopeson
Hypercube Ventures
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Posted - 2010.01.02 23:00:00 -
[61]
Please come kill the ice miners in Piekura (Lonetrek, conveniently adjacent to low sec)!
And, while you're there, buy my very-reasonably-priced Catalysts, please! I will be ensuring that there is a plentiful supply available.
My lolalt will be joining in the gankery, naturally. Thanks for setting up the orphanage corp, Helicity!
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3ll3
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.01.02 23:39:00 -
[62]
Death to the Macro-Miners!
Though I should be cursing this event being a Care Bear and a Miner but still if it'll purge the Hated Macro-Miners I'll gladly take my chances as a viable target.
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SetrakDark
Caldari
DarkCorp Technology and Finance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 00:49:00 -
[63]
Edited by: SetrakDark on 03/01/2010 00:49:03
I can't believe how seriously some people are taking this...
Edit: as in getting upset.
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Kessiaan
Minmatar
Final Agony
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Posted - 2010.01.03 01:50:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Kessiaan on 03/01/2010 01:50:32
Originally by: SetrakDark
Edited by: SetrakDark on 03/01/2010 00:49:03
I can't believe how seriously some people are taking this...
Edit: as in getting upset.
I find this whole event highly amusing.
Apparently mining in a Covetor for a week is beyond the ability of some people to understand. Or the people who think there's some uber Hulk setup that can survive the alpha strike from six destroyers. Or the people who think that a suicider below -5 sec. status can't fly said destroyers to the target.
The real industrialists are already getting into position to profit from this - I've already seen suicide kits on sale, wouldn't surprise me at all if people are buying up Hulks (and associated equipment) now to resell to idiots who get suicided despite having weeks of warning and every game mechanic in EvE on their side.
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MailOrder RussianBride
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:07:00 -
[65]
I just don't get it...
Are the people complaining about stuff like this playing the same game? This is the Eve forums, right?
Is there some motive or method of profit from whining and crying on the forums that I'm missing?
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:00:00 -
[66]
Originally by: MailOrder RussianBride
I just don't get it...
Are the people complaining about stuff like this playing the same game? This is the Eve forums, right?
Is there some motive or method of profit from whining and crying on the forums that I'm missing?
Ever since CCP boosted concord response times carebear tear prices have gone up on the super secret carebear tear lube market.
Originally by: a51 duke1406
The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:52:00 -
[67]
I think you'll find the game mechanics are bent towards the griefer, not the "care-bears" as you call em. Dont forget also for 2 years now Jihad has been nothing but story's to many people. They dont know how to play in highsec like they are under threat. The game is massively skewed towards the ganker,
Insurance payouts for ganking
tipping
Ninja salvaging
replacing items in cans to re-flag the can to the ninja, so the newbe flags himself.Then he gets killed in his pve mega by the pvper in a tricked out Tempest.
The inability in highsec for NPC Corps to back each other up without getting concorded.
The simple fact there is no consequence for killing people in highsec is enough proof that the entire system is for the ganker, not the carebear.
PS, Concord is not a consequence, until Insurance is removed. That will balance the playing field, if you wanna grief awesome, go nuts, but you have to lose out as well.
An before any of you start with "waaa waa hes a carebear crying tears blah blah" lol.... I think my killboard speaks for itself. (if that rubbish ever means anything)
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MailOrder RussianBride
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Posted - 2010.01.03 06:26:00 -
[68]
Edited by: MailOrder RussianBride on 03/01/2010 06:28:46
Originally by: Zill
I think you'll find the game mechanics are bent towards the griefer, not the "care-bears" as you call em. Dont forget also for 2 years now Jihad has been nothing but story's to many people. They dont know how to play in highsec like they are under threat. The game is massively skewed towards the ganker,
Insurance payouts for ganking
tipping
Ninja salvaging
replacing items in cans to re-flag the can to the ninja, so the newbe flags himself.Then he gets killed in his pve mega by the pvper in a tricked out Tempest.
The inability in highsec for NPC Corps to back each other up without getting concorded.
The simple fact there is no consequence for killing people in highsec is enough proof that the entire system is for the ganker, not the carebear.
PS, Concord is not a consequence, until Insurance is removed. That will balance the playing field, if you wanna grief awesome, go nuts, but you have to lose out as well.
This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say "I don't get it."
Why would you want to change that? This is Eve. This is the game where people commit corporate theft and scams. With pride. Then brag about it. On the game's official forums. Try doing that in other online games and see how long your account remains active...
If these things bother you... WHY ARE YOU STILL PLAYING? Why are you surprised/outraged/annoyed/(insert emotion to nitpick about) that the system is set up with the ganker partially in mind? Why would you want to change that? Empire is boring enough as it is without taking the only serious risk out of it. Seriously, justify this to me. Why and how would this improve the game as a whole?
Again. I just don't get it. Are you involved in some sort of bet in which you are trying to elicit the largest number of 'Go back to WoW' responses? It would make more sense...
Quote:
An before any of you start with "waaa waa hes a carebear crying tears blah blah" lol.... I think my killboard speaks for itself. (if that rubbish ever means anything)
And before YOU start with 'dirty ganker, you just want easy kills, learn to really PvP' my main's a Hulk pilot.
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Hamano Walker
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Posted - 2010.01.03 06:31:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Hamano Walker on 03/01/2010 06:33:01
Originally by: Zill
I think you'll find the game mechanics are bent towards the griefer, not the "care-bears" as you call em.
OK, keep in mind that in 0.0 the game mechanics are "neutral", by which I mean that there is no mechanical incentive or disincentive to either the miner or the attacker. Anyone can attack a mining ship with anything from a frigate to an entire battle fleet. Depending on your perspective that can be weighted to attackers or it can be the ultimate form of freedom. Anyone is allowed to do whatever they want.
In highsec the default state is that anyone who attacks your mining ship will die. Not might die, not probably die, will die. On top of that, once they fire a single shot, everyone in your corp can strike back for 15 minutes while CONCORD is chasing the attacker down.
Insurance allows the production and fitting of certain small, high alpha strike ships as a break-even proposition. They still will die. Not might die, will die. If you're mining alone, unarmed, untanked and don't have an escape plan you may die too. Not will die, may die. The profit margin is lower than blowing up unfit ships for insurance. Even if you get destroyed you can run back for your cargo just like they're doing and do it in a battleship. The only way for the attacker to practically avoid this is to wardec your corp first.
So the mechanics aren't really favoring the attacker. What they are doing is allowing a couple of small, specific means of attack on undefended targets in highsec.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.03 07:31:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Zill on 03/01/2010 07:31:52
"This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say "I don't get it."
Why would you want to change that? This is Eve. This is the game where people commit corporate theft and scams. With pride. Then brag about it. On the game's official forums. Try doing that in other online games and see how long your account remains active...
If these things bother you... WHY ARE YOU STILL PLAYING? Why are you surprised/outraged/annoyed/(insert emotion to nitpick about) that the system is set up with the ganker partially in mind? Why would you want to change that? Empire is boring enough as it is without taking the only serious risk out of it. Seriously, justify this to me. Why and how would this improve the game as a whole?
Again. I just don't get it. Are you involved in some sort of bet in which you are trying to elicit the largest number of 'Go back to WoW' responses? It would make more sense..."
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Firstly, I dont want to "change" EvE, I have always made my views on ganking totally clear. It's a good thing to have risk in highsec, an I for one would never want it to be nrfed any harder than it has been. I sure as hell dont want the lie,cheat,steal,kill,murder,spy blah blah to ever be changed.
Show me one single spot that this tactic "bothers" me..... seriously, please show me....
I have over 33 pod kills to my name an about a 5 to 1 kill ratio so wanting the game "softer" is not even remotely thought about by me. As for Wow, I don't see how you reach such an idiotic statement. I am not 13, nor do I gain giggles in winding people up anymore.
I merely pointed out some facts. I still fail though to see why you wont see that removing insurance is actually a good thing. It makes things even, so the newbe who just gained his Hulk an has 10 isk to him name, can venture out to play. Yet knows that some numpty in a 2B isk Tengu has to take same risks he does to gain the kill.
Walker, trouble with your response mate is that highsec is by an large full of guys who lack the skills or the info needed to defend against the random gank. As we both know if someone wants you dead, youc an be killed, anywhere, its down to how much that person wants you dead. Insurance just makes it easy so everyone can join in. EvE is meant to be a risk just doing anything, but the risk is 80% one sided, because the gankers risk nothing, not one single thing does any ganker risk in killing.
0.0 is as we both know a totally different ballgame.I cant really think of any parallels to use in this discussion between 0.0 an 05+.Everyone knows you cant mine in 0.0 solo unless you have a deathwish, hence the reason highsec is so valued. The insurance system while highly useful for newbe's is really exploited to hell an back by the rest of us who dont need it.
Case in point, I can take my 60 mil isk SB to outer ring an hunt goonfleet an "maybe" I will get out alive... chances are I wont though, I know that going in.
In highsec while I have Concord an navy to protect me, even a 0.0 fit Marauder can be killed with enough firepower on it. I lose billions while the attackers get a payday of billion isk mods. Everyone gets paid,an get insurance on their crappy APOC suiside fit. now if there was no insurance, they lose few 100 mil in ships an mods an gain less back off me, while still taking a risk for payday.
How is that wrong?
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Millie Clode
Amarr
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:37:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Kessiaan
Apparently mining in a Covetor for a week is beyond the ability of some people to understand. Or the people who think there's some uber Hulk setup that can survive the alpha strike from six destroyers. Or the people who think that a suicider below -5 sec. status can't fly said destroyers to the target.
If we want to maximise revenue from loot, spread the word that deadspace buffer hulk fits are the way forward and will definitely save your life when the ganking happens ;)
Imagine the incredulity
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Ahro Thariori
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:39:00 -
[72]
suggestion: dont fly t2/faction hulls if you cant afford the loss
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.03 13:08:00 -
[73]
I always love the false "you can't pvp" argument.
I have 700+ kills on this toon, and i think like 2 of them were hulks :/
not to mention the head sponsor of the event is ranked number 1 on Battleclinic.
Funny them false arguments, but whatever makes them feel better I suppose.
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2Wild
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Posted - 2010.01.03 22:00:00 -
[74]
well, I've only had 1 attempt on my retriever by a gank Thorax & my small T2 booster saved my hide. Also I fly as if I'm mining in null/lo sec (watch local, look out for warships entering belt & deploy drones, stay aligned to a station/planet/belt). I know there is no safety in hi-sec belts, a gank can come at anytime. So if some noob or afk miner dies too bad for them. It just means less competition. Happy Hunting
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MailOrder RussianBride
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Posted - 2010.01.03 23:42:00 -
[75]
I'm willing to write this off as just a difference of opinion, but even so, let's continue...
I understand that you're saying you don't want to change Eve (as in the overall game)... but I disagree with you. It seems to me that you do. Changing the insurance payout system in order to make suicide ganking less profitable changes the tone of the overall game. It would make the game softer. Why should new players be shielded more? Are they not part of the same game as everyone else? By new, I do not mean 15 day old players still wet behind the ears; if you're in a Hulk, you've been playing several months and made, at minimum, 150mil. By that point, your security is your own responsibility. You should either know better or deserve to be shown (the hard way) why you should.
You're also ignoring the sec status hit gankers take. It's not a huge penalty, but there's a significant amount of time they have to invest in grinding. It's not like one person is suiciding 30 Hulks a day.
The biggest problem with your argument is that it's contingent on the market. Removing insurance would make suicide ganking unprofitable for Hulks, but still profitable (as you pointed out) for things like some freighters, haulers and faction fit mission runners. Why? What purpose does this serve? How does this make the game better than it currently is? I don't think it does...
Okay, no, you didn't say you 'bothered.' That's partially assumption and implication from toneless forum posts. My bad, cut me some slack, I was sleepy :p
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BaMBaM23
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Posted - 2010.01.04 01:37:00 -
[76]
any people with neg status that have trouble getting into hig sec please msg to get orca support as a hi sec carrier for your boats......
support this all the way
Bam
4.20 all ready OK
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2010.01.04 01:48:00 -
[77]
Hey Heli,
Given the amount of miners shouting, scammers trying to profit off the even and the desperate attention seeking from insignificant trolls going on; I'd say Hulkageddon 2 is already a success.
See you on the asteroid field
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War Kitten
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Posted - 2010.01.05 17:41:00 -
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Zill,
1) Yes, highsec is full of newbs with no clue. But you don't write game mechanics for everyone in favor of the ignorant. Too many times I hear people say they hate to read or don't want to read about how things work, they just want to play the game. Well kids, tough luck. Those that take time to know what they're doing will always have an advantage over those who stick their head in the sand, even in Hello Kitty Online. Know the rules of the game.
2) Risk may be low for gankers, but so is the reward. There is also the risk of lowering your sec status, and it takes about as much time ratting to repair that as it takes to make the money to replace the dead hulk.
3) Turn the tables: What's the risk vs. reward of flying a hulk in hi-sec? It's way out of proportion I'd say. How often do you really get ganked, and how many billions does one make off minerals mined at really 0 risk?
It all boils down to this: All you have to do is pay attention and get out if you see a guy with a really big gun loitering next to you.
Would you sit next to the guy on the subway carrying a rocket launcher? I think not.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.05 18:39:00 -
[79]
only 2 more days to Hulkageddon II!!!
I'm up to -0.3 sec status and will spend a lot of time tomorrow grinding it up as high as I can before it all goes away again 
Originally by: a51 duke1406
The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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Josef Serov
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.01.05 18:48:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Boink'urr
How exactly is Eve a 'dark cold place' again with all these fully insured lolgankfits?
Somebody xplain :D
Well it isn't for the gankers. That's the point of people complaining about it for the most part. There is no chance of losing money unless the ganker is a complete twit.
My own complaint has more to do with the fact this will probably lead to Exhumers getting a bit of a boost to deal with this. Should have run "Missiongeddon" and then "Evegankageddon" because repeatedly showing that miners can't stop a gank fit no matter what will just encourage CCP to up the resistances or something to where they can hold up to a single cheap gank alpha strike. Laugh if you want at that idea, that what caused the piracy nerfs listed in another post (webifiers and such)
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Stuart Price
Caldari
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2010.01.05 20:26:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Josef Serov
Originally by: Boink'urr
How exactly is Eve a 'dark cold place' again with all these fully insured lolgankfits?
Somebody xplain :D
Well it isn't for the gankers. That's the point of people complaining about it for the most part. There is no chance of losing money unless the ganker is a complete twit.
My own complaint has more to do with the fact this will probably lead to Exhumers getting a bit of a boost to deal with this. Should have run "Missiongeddon" and then "Evegankageddon" because repeatedly showing that miners can't stop a gank fit no matter what will just encourage CCP to up the resistances or something to where they can hold up to a single cheap gank alpha strike. Laugh if you want at that idea, that what caused the piracy nerfs listed in another post (webifiers and such)
Nah, CCP generally love this kind of stuff. It's a Scandinavian thing. I seriously doubt they'll buff exhumers in response - they're more likely to say, "lol, man up", and explain that having your hulk suicide ganked is, surprisingly, completely avoidable for awake pilots.
My only regret is that I won't be partaking due to exploded desktop and an 8 day wait time for its replacement  (Stupid laptop won't run eve).
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Dexter Tripod
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Posted - 2010.01.05 20:49:00 -
[82]
No worries Stuart. I'll dedicate one of my, hopefully many, hulk kills to you. :)
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Josef Serov
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.01.05 21:43:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Stuart Price
Nah, CCP generally love this kind of stuff. It's a Scandinavian thing. I seriously doubt they'll buff exhumers in response - they're more likely to say, "lol, man up", and explain that having your hulk suicide ganked is, surprisingly, completely avoidable for awake pilots.
My only regret is that I won't be partaking due to exploded desktop and an 8 day wait time for its replacement (Stupid laptop won't run eve).
Yeah and that's why you've seen the back and forth with Industry and Pirates. MWD nerfs, webifier nerfs all because of pirate or carebear tears. Yes, pirate tears. You want to see a pirate go all weepy? Tell them their high-sec ganking is no longer a guaranteed profit, and that they might *gasp* lose money doing it. Tell them, in general, that they might have to switch tactics. Pirates are not immune to tears in the slightest. In fact some of the most delicious tears I've gotten (along with the most hate-filled convos) were pirate tears.
CCP will just look at it as a balance thing. Should they see it getting out of balance, too many easy alpha kills for example, and they'll change it. They did the same thing with MWD and Webs.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.05 21:56:00 -
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Edited by: Zill on 05/01/2010 21:59:16
War Kitty, trouble is mate ganks are not done for profit, I was a pirate for a long time an only one reason to kill hulks "Fun" an the chance to **** someone off, we both know that :).
Removing insurance is just going to make it so teams of tempest gangsta wanna be's cant roam all day in 1.0 an slaughter day old chars in their newbe ships so they can come here to boast how they made somone quit. I have no issues at all at people killing hulks n freighters etc. Hell,the game took a bad turn the day they nerfed highsec. BUT, you have to have a balance.
Proof positive is out there in every single MMO ever made that anarchy games turn to **** in a heart beat because of the gamers playing. They turn feral an it becomes a lord of the flies thing where they attack anytign that moves.
Look at Darkfall online totally teen angst tantrum driven gang bangers who need a right smackin.
Oldschool UO, hacks cheats death threats bullying all the usual caper from young ones who have no moderation switch.... they just go feral overnight.
Anarchy gamers are incapable of self moderation so ecery single game fails because of it.Eve has managed to survive because it moderates that behavior somewhat by instilling some controls in the game. Dont be fooled that CCP are not taking notice of the rise in ganks suddenly. They removed the ability once already because people screamed blue murder over it.
If you wanna make money killing people, then pirate. It takes work I know an it also takes time to setup a reputation as someone who isnt gonna rasom an then just kill you anyway. Because the first time you do so, your name wuill get round then none will ever pay you.
Education is another option other than removing insurance, but sadly I try an teach every day how to mine in highsec an all you ever get is "blah blah **** off noob I know more than you".... at which point I call a couple gankers I know to kill him (every action has an equal an opposite reaction).
They usually come back then after complaining they are more likily to listen :D
Anyway all I can say is if you lads don't tone it down your just gonna get the system nerfed yourself heh
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Thronde
United Systems Navy
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2010.01.05 22:30:00 -
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I will be there in one form or another... Either my main or my alt. Either way, -10 HERE I COME!
I wonder if a Thrasher fit with 2x Istab IIs can still gank fast enough. LOL
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Boomershoot
Caldari
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.01.05 22:40:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Zill
Anyway all I can say is if you lads don't tone it down your just gonna get the system nerfed yourself heh
if the system is nerfed anymore, then CCP will have some MAJOR whine to come out of. nothing like this small glass of tears coming out from the mentally impaired miners.
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Neckbeard Griefmonger
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Posted - 2010.01.05 22:51:00 -
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I'd like to contribute an achievement.
Mediocre award
100M to the corp that falls dead middle in exhumer kills.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.05 22:58:00 -
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Edited by: Zill on 05/01/2010 22:59:00
wine as in Sn *****ing an moaning you mean ? :p hehe lets face it Boomer we all know Sn don't like it when it when it isn't a "fair fight" as in 3 tooled up BS v 1 retriever. I think Sn are probably one of the main ones will scream loudest an longest if the system is fixed so you actually have a consequence for your actions. Specially when this whole -10 thing is called "a major consequence of ganking" LOL your set status is nothing.
The fact you have to spend a few weeks getting status up pales compared to that newbee who worked his arse off for 2 hours a night for months in between kids/school/work/family to afford his hulk. Then only to lose it to 12 suddenly ninja griefers who then proceed to spam the poor guys mail with gangsta angst because he died to them. :D
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2010.01.05 23:00:00 -
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Confirming Suddenly Ninjas are the whiniest noob fail blob pilots in eve. Now let me wait till one of them comes in and interprets this statement as "delicious tears" 
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Dimitryy
Gallente
Ever Flow
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.05 23:11:00 -
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Hulkageddon, best geddon.
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.01.05 23:16:00 -
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Edited by: Barakkus on 05/01/2010 23:19:00
Originally by: Kessiaan
Or the people who think that a suicider below -5 sec. status can't fly said destroyers to the target.
Speaking of which, anyone who will have trouble flying an actual ship into highsec that wants an Orca base to operate from, EVE mail me with details on when/where and perhaps we can work something out.
Edit: in/near the lonetrek/forge area, I don't wanna spend hours trying to get to some far out of the way place :P
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Kyle Langdon
Gallente
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.06 00:25:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Zill
Edited by: Zill on 05/01/2010 22:59:00
wine as in Sn *****ing an moaning you mean ? :p hehe lets face it Boomer we all know Sn don't like it when it when it isn't a "fair fight" as in 3 tooled up BS v 1 retriever. I think Sn are probably one of the main ones will scream loudest an longest if the system is fixed so you actually have a consequence for your actions. Specially when this whole -10 thing is called "a major consequence of ganking" LOL your set status is nothing.
The fact you have to spend a few weeks getting status up pales compared to that newbee who worked his arse off for 2 hours a night for months in between kids/school/work/family to afford his hulk. Then only to lose it to 12 suddenly ninja griefers who then proceed to spam the poor guys mail with gangsta angst because he died to them. :D
The rage is strong in this one.
P.S. u mad?
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.06 03:20:00 -
[93]
I'm not mad mate, its only a game. Nothing to get mad about. I tangled with Sn a few times, they won, all good.
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svenneman22
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Posted - 2010.01.06 13:13:00 -
[94]
Leave my hulks alone :( they never hurt anyone but some rocks
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Forum Reprentative
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Posted - 2010.01.06 14:47:00 -
[95]
I seriosly think that CCP devs created mining as a fountain of tasty rabbits for the wolf community.
CCP loves PVP and things go boom, they like the pirate stuff, (and watching how they online-shop works I think they are, indeed, a crazy Viking pirates)so, basically, they don't give a sh*t for the rab.. euh.. miners.
High-sec miners are, just and simple, game in a hunt reserve.
So, accept your role and stop whining.
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Boomershoot
Caldari
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.01.06 15:06:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Zill
Edited by: Zill on 05/01/2010 22:59:00
wine as in Sn *****ing an moaning you mean ? :p hehe lets face it Boomer we all know Sn don't like it when it when it isn't a "fair fight" as in 3 tooled up BS v 1 retriever. I think Sn are probably one of the main ones will scream loudest an longest if the system is fixed so you actually have a consequence for your actions. Specially when this whole -10 thing is called "a major consequence of ganking" LOL your set status is nothing.
The fact you have to spend a few weeks getting status up pales compared to that newbee who worked his arse off for 2 hours a night for months in between kids/school/work/family to afford his hulk. Then only to lose it to 12 suddenly ninja griefers who then proceed to spam the poor guys mail with gangsta angst because he died to them. :D
Still bitter for something that happened 10 months ago?
meh
Point taken, Tears are like Wine.
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jnb
Black Ash State Services
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Posted - 2010.01.06 15:17:00 -
[97]
It promises to be quite an event; gratz to Helicity for organising it again.
Personally, I'm very much looking forward to Hulkageddon II and wish all participants on both sides the very best of luck, fun, occasional tears and general 'yarrage'.
I will be mining in Korsiki, The Forge, for much of this event and hope some people will come visit!
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.06 15:32:00 -
[98]
Originally by: jnb
It promises to be quite an event; gratz to Helicity for organising it again.
Personally, I'm very much looking forward to Hulkageddon II and wish all participants on both sides the very best of luck, fun, occasional tears and general 'yarrage'.
I will be mining in Korsiki, The Forge, for much of this event and hope some people will come visit!
hehe, I've seen your video, happy fishing mate :)
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Josef Serov
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.01.06 21:31:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Hamano Walker
Edited by: Hamano Walker on 03/01/2010 06:33:01
Snip a long pile of usless drivel
You're not getting podded, so you're not losing anything. Should you be too stupid to have a salvaging alt nearby, that's your stupidity. When you have to pay to reset your clone (because concorde podded you) then you have a loss. Keep in mind that your long drivel about 0.0 leaves out the fact that this is safe for the ganker because in 0.0 I could nuke you and you're now paying a few million on top of your gank ship loss which could be insured.
Hulkageddon scenario:
Miner loses a (before the price jump) 100m isk ship + fittings, about 75m uninsured
Ganker crew loses a couple of destroyers worth about 5m isk ship + fittings, nearly all of it insured. Plus the gank crew (if they're not complete morons) get's the salvage off of a T2 ship safely. A net loss of nothing, in fact, a net gain in 99.99999% of cases.
0.0 Scenario:
Miner loses a (before the price jump) 100m isk ship + fittings, about 75m uninsured
Ganker crew loses a couple of destroyers worth about 5m isk ship + fittings, nearly all of it insured. Difference: Ganker can't salvage and they're open to being podded. Being podded can cost quite a bit, depending on skill point total.
So don't spew bull-puckey about loss. This is guaranteed auto-profit. This is guaranteed safe. This is a bunch of bored people killing those that have 0 defense against it, except by staying docked. 3 guys in destroyers can pop a max tank hulk, every single time, unless Concorde is literally right on top of them (and maybe even then) when the fight starts.
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Ran Khanon
Amarr
The Phantom Acolytes
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Posted - 2010.01.06 22:42:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Josef Serov
Originally by: Hamano Walker
Edited by: Hamano Walker on 03/01/2010 06:33:01
Snip a long pile of usless drivel
This is guaranteed auto-profit. This is guaranteed safe.
Woohoo, where can I sign up?!
But wate! Sec status ...
I am still dependent on empire space and realize I would hurt myself very badly being a semi noobish mission runner with no place to go and no skills to survive for long in low sec or 0.0 ... yet :<
p.s. One of the cool things about EVE is that there are no complete safe zones. It keeps everything much more exciting. Being on your toes for ninja salvagers, gankers, scammers, corp thieves is actually an added benefit to the gameplay experience for a 'mainly good' guy like myself.
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fmercury
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.01.07 00:45:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Josef Serov
Originally by: Hamano Walker
Edited by: Hamano Walker on 03/01/2010 06:33:01
Snip a long pile of usless drivel
You're not getting podded, so you're not losing anything. Should you be too stupid to have a salvaging alt nearby, that's your stupidity. When you have to pay to reset your clone (because concorde podded you) then you have a loss. Keep in mind that your long drivel about 0.0 leaves out the fact that this is safe for the ganker because in 0.0 I could nuke you and you're now paying a few million on top of your gank ship loss which could be insured.
Hulkageddon scenario:
Miner loses a (before the price jump) 100m isk ship + fittings, about 75m uninsured
Ganker crew loses a couple of destroyers worth about 5m isk ship + fittings, nearly all of it insured. Plus the gank crew (if they're not complete morons) get's the salvage off of a T2 ship safely. A net loss of nothing, in fact, a net gain in 99.99999% of cases.
0.0 Scenario:
Miner loses a (before the price jump) 100m isk ship + fittings, about 75m uninsured
Ganker crew loses a couple of destroyers worth about 5m isk ship + fittings, nearly all of it insured. Difference: Ganker can't salvage and they're open to being podded. Being podded can cost quite a bit, depending on skill point total.
So don't spew bull-puckey about loss. This is guaranteed auto-profit. This is guaranteed safe. This is a bunch of bored people killing those that have 0 defense against it, except by staying docked. 3 guys in destroyers can pop a max tank hulk, every single time, unless Concorde is literally right on top of them (and maybe even then) when the fight starts.
What's your point? You're never safe in eve. If you're undocked, you can get killed. If you don't like that fact, play a different game.
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Lubomir Penev
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2010.01.07 01:48:00 -
[102]
I saw Python Cartel strike on two macro macky right after it started, nice one.
However friendly tip, if you are outlaw scouting in your pod may not be the smartest thing, my corpmate quite appreciated the 77M bounty two minutes before it started
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Festidious Verrucas
Draconis Alumni
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Posted - 2010.01.07 02:06:00 -
[103]
I hereby request that the 7 days is increased to 30 days for the next event. The tears and fallout from this event has been very entertaining.
Fly safe,
Fes.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.07 02:11:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Lubomir Penev
I saw Python Cartel strike on two macro macky right after it started, nice one.
However friendly tip, if you are outlaw scouting in your pod may not be the smartest thing, my corpmate quite appreciated the 77M bounty two minutes before it started
Haha yes, that was Kyle, Kyle does that kind of thing a lot.
We laughed
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El Liptonez
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Posted - 2010.01.07 02:23:00 -
[105]
Quite hilarious to find concord in the belts instead of hulks, when searching for hulks. Took like 20 minutes to find a hulk in lonetrek. 
And yes, I also think 7 days are far too short.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.07 03:18:00 -
[106]
lol Boomer :D I'm always bitter an I WILL get Rex back one day..... I will dam it!!! heh
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Kyle Langdon
Gallente
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.07 05:00:00 -
[107]
Edited by: Kyle Langdon on 07/01/2010 05:01:18
Originally by: Lubomir Penev
I saw Python Cartel strike on two macro macky right after it started, nice one.
However friendly tip, if you are outlaw scouting in your pod may not be the smartest thing, my corpmate quite appreciated the 77M bounty two minutes before it started
Yeah that was me.
It was only 66 mil and I didn't want that bounty anyway. But yeah I was guite surprised to see that Drake pop in on me.
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Clair Bear
Ursine Research and Production
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Posted - 2010.01.07 06:28:00 -
[108]
Still plenty of hulks in the Forge. I'm out of ships, supplies and sec status (I pre-ganked last week, knowing T2-packing targets would be scarce during the event), but if you're in the Jita neighborhood chat me up and I'll see what I can do re: providing intel, warp-ins, whatever.
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El'Tar
Caldari
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2010.01.07 09:10:00 -
[109]
Can't wait to start doing this later on, for now it looks like Final Agony is in the lead, representing around 15% of total Exhumers killed, 163 has died so far in 9 hours, I hope every one can keep this up and we might have 2100 by the end of the week!
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Lazr GoPew
Here comes the pain train
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Posted - 2010.01.07 09:43:00 -
[110]
Originally by: El'Tar
Can't wait to start doing this later on, for now it looks like Final Agony is in the lead, representing around 15% of total Exhumers killed, 163 has died so far in 9 hours, I hope every one can keep this up and we might have 2100 by the end of the week!
i hope it dies down a bit, the highest bet i placed at shigsy's was 989 hulks :(
also for those people whining about it being too profitable. You DONT suicide miners for profit, thats what haulers are for. Honestly, even if there were no insurance, hulkageddon would still take place. Its not about the isk, its about the tears, and would pay more for them if we had to |
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El'Tar
Caldari
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2010.01.07 09:46:00 -
[111]
My bet was in the 400 region 
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.07 09:49:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Clair Bear
Still plenty of hulks in the Forge. I'm out of ships, supplies and sec status (I pre-ganked last week, knowing T2-packing targets would be scarce during the event).
Already got myself 9 Modulated Strip Miner IIs
Originally by: a51 duke1406
The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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Millie Clode
Amarr
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.01.07 09:58:00 -
[113]
over 200 kills in the first ten hours? Good work :D
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Sunsyn
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Posted - 2010.01.07 15:43:00 -
[114]
Edited by: Sunsyn on 07/01/2010 15:44:09
Well today I joined in my first fleet (thanks to Periscope Up!) but I kinda made a balls up.
We warp in to our target, a Hulk on the edge of an asteroid field. Circling like birds of prey, or scavanging vultures, depending on your view. we're told not to lock on. I spent so much time looking at my Overview that I realised way too late I was 18km away, with 150mm projectile guns... by the time I get to the hulk it's in bits, the miner's unaware that he's been blown up (he was afk) and everyone gets loved by CONCORD (excluding myself). On the upside at least I could loot the other guys' ships and return their bits and bobs to them - yes I'm that honest, even if I suck at the game.
Note to self, take more notice!
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Johan Moisander
Caldari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.01.07 16:18:00 -
[115]
All of EVE should be 0.0
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Swearte Widfarend
Gallente
Aurora Security
Art of Defiance
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Posted - 2010.01.07 17:27:00 -
[116]
I am so sad.
I only bet on 750 hulk losses (and didn't even put my bet in).
I am so happy. I was so wrong.
Fun for you all - good shooting spy!
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.07 17:36:00 -
[117]
Edited by: Helicity Boson on 07/01/2010 17:36:55
As you can imagine, I am mighty pleased at the monster I have created.
PROCEED!
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WAR DECKER
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Posted - 2010.01.07 17:44:00 -
[118]
I wondered what the PVP wannabees were at these days.Try coming to 0.0 you will get the reward you deserve.To all that have been harmed by these freaks mail me and i will help you form a hit squad to give them what they deserve.
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Festidious Verrucas
Draconis Alumni
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Posted - 2010.01.07 21:42:00 -
[119]
Keep it up folks - prices for hulks are 200m+ in Jita!
Fly safe,
Fes.
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Lubomir Penev
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2010.01.08 01:49:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Kyle Langdon
Edited by: Kyle Langdon on 07/01/2010 05:01:18
Originally by: Lubomir Penev
I saw Python Cartel strike on two macro macky right after it started, nice one.
However friendly tip, if you are outlaw scouting in your pod may not be the smartest thing, my corpmate quite appreciated the 77M bounty two minutes before it started
Yeah that was me.
It was only 66 mil and I didn't want that bounty anyway. But yeah I was guite surprised to see that Drake pop in on me.
Proving that there must be a fate, I got punished for mocking you.
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Obsidian Hawk
Free Galactic Enterprises
FREGE
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Posted - 2010.01.09 22:02:00 -
[121]
Calling all hulkageddon pilots to the Assiettes, Stayme and Ingenhenges systems. Lots of peoply flying hulks.
many of them are afk..
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Condemned Bishop
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Posted - 2010.01.09 22:46:00 -
[122]
Well... since there obviously is a party going on and it seems I'm not invited, I decided to drop in on a couple of your gankers. Thanks for the easy killz. Cheers!
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