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Greygal Gallente Sephray Industries	Posted - 2009.12.31 11:54:00 - [1] I've only been playing Eve for about 7 months, and sure, I've made a lot of newbie mistakes... a lot! - but I never thought paying ransom was a mistake before. I've been caught by pirates six times and every time I've been offered a ransom to pay in order to release my ship (or in one case, not destroy my pod). Each time I paid, and each time, the ransom was honored, I went on my tail-tucked, sheepish way, limping to safety. Until today. Make a really stupid and silly long story short: I was web scrammed by Lord Carvin of [ID10T], he got into my hull, and then he offered me a $25 million isk ransom. I withdrew my drones, I shut down my turrets, and I paid the $25 million isk ransom. He stopped firing for a bit, but he didn't release the warp scram. I could not get away. He started firing on me again, and destroyed my Myrm. Spamming the warp-to-zero button, I did get my pod to safety. Look, I know Lord Carvin is a pirate, and a very experienced player. I know pirating is part of Eve, and despite the annoyance of it all, I don't really mind it that much - it does add a bit of flair and excitement to the game! I expect pirates to gank, can flip, and generally wreak havoc on the universe. That's expected. What's not expected is a pirate, especially one of several years experience like Lord Carvin, to have no honor. From everything I've read and heard and learned in my short time in Eve, destroying a player's ship after they've paid the ransom is not honorable pirate behavior. Yes, I know it sounds crazy, but I do expect pirates to have a certain amount of honor, even though they are pirates! Even in the crazy sandbox of Eve, there are some few givens, some few unwritten "rules" ... ya, I'm probably insane... Anyway, I guess paying 7 ransoms and having 6 of them honored is really not bad, statistically, but I will very much hesitate to pay a ransom to any pirate again in the future. Okay, I'm done whining/venting :) Greygal
Malephar	Posted - 2009.12.31 11:59:00 - [2] Some will tell you there is no honour in Eve. Some will tell you to stop crying. All will laugh. Many will honour ransoms... if you're seeing a 6:1 ratio of ransom honouring then thats not too bad. Don't knock the pirate that dishonours the ransom any more than one who honours it, however. Sure, you might be left feeling like you got lucky if you pay a ransom and are released, and think better of the pirate who honoured it, but remember that both are in business to make profit, and both are essentially being bastards to you.
Grunanca Final Agony	Posted - 2009.12.31 12:02:00 - [3] Its bad apples like him that makes other pirates have to find alternative ways of getting isk. I hope he will get his ass handed to him and im sure he will. I hope you will continue paying in the future, its not many that dont honor ransoms.
Greyar Solo	Posted - 2009.12.31 12:03:00 - [4] Edited by: Greyar Solo on 31/12/2009 12:11:48
Greyar Solo	Posted - 2009.12.31 12:10:00 - [5] Edited by: Greyar Solo on 31/12/2009 12:13:05
Greygal Gallente Sephray Industries	Posted - 2009.12.31 12:19:00 - [6] Originally by: Malephar Don't knock the pirate that dishonours the ransom any more than one who honours it, however. Sure, you might be left feeling like you got lucky if you pay a ransom and are released, and think better of the pirate who honoured it, but remember that both are in business to make profit, and both are essentially being bastards to you. So very very true :) They are both being bastards :) Good point, well taken, thank you, I will remember that!! Originally by: Grunanca Its bad apples like him that makes other pirates have to find alternative ways of getting isk. I hope he will get his ass handed to him and im sure he will. I hope you will continue paying in the future, its not many that dont honor ransoms. Hopefully, I'll continue to mostly manage to avoid pirates :) I'd rather not add to the profit margin of a pirate in general, of course, but hey, I know, pirating is a business just like mining or missioning. :) It's been about four months since I got snared by a pirate... overall compared to some people I know, I've actually been pretty lucky. :) Greygal
Serlunt	Posted - 2009.12.31 12:30:00 - [7] I go about 70/30 on ransoms being honored.
In General Veto.	Posted - 2009.12.31 12:56:00 - [8] Originally by: Greygal I'd rather not add to the profit margin of a pirate in general, Greygal Why, what did I ever do to you? I need iskies too...... In this game, there is plenty of stupid to go around!
Greygal Gallente Sephray Industries	Posted - 2009.12.31 13:00:00 - [9] Edited by: Greygal on 31/12/2009 13:00:01 Originally by: In General Originally by: Greygal I'd rather not add to the profit margin of a pirate in general, Greygal Why, what did I ever do to you? I need iskies too...... Somehow I bet you have a lot more iskies than me :)
Selina Starfire Silver Snake Enterprise Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.12.31 13:07:00 - [10] Originally by: Malephar Don't knock the pirate that dishonours the ransom any more than one who honours it, however. Sure, you might be left feeling like you got lucky if you pay a ransom and are released, and think better of the pirate who honoured it, but remember that both are in business to make profit, and both are essentially being bastards to you. I have to say I disagree with this. Granted, this is Eve, and scams, liars and griefers run aplenty but there ARE two types of pirates, those who maintain their honor and respect and have fun and those who are just out to ruin someone elses day. Although I am not a pirate, I do know a number of them and most will tell you that a large part of their income comes from ransoms. You get too many people not honoring those ransoms and eventually you'll get this: Originally by: Greygal I will very much hesitate to pay a ransom to any pirate again in the future. A pirate like Carvin just makes every pirate look bad and should be hunted to hell and back by every other pirate. But than that's just my personal thoughts. Frankly, for future reference Greygal, as they say, birds of a feather flock together, which I find to be very true in Eve. So best to not bother paying an offered ransom if ever caught by anyone from [ID10T] again.

Malephar	Posted - 2009.12.31 13:32:00 - [11] Originally by: Selina Starfire Originally by: Malephar Don't knock the pirate that dishonours the ransom any more than one who honours it, however. Sure, you might be left feeling like you got lucky if you pay a ransom and are released, and think better of the pirate who honoured it, but remember that both are in business to make profit, and both are essentially being bastards to you. I have to say I disagree with this. Granted, this is Eve, and scams, liars and griefers run aplenty but there ARE two types of pirates, those who maintain their honor and respect and have fun and those who are just out to ruin someone elses day. Although I am not a pirate, I do know a number of them and most will tell you that a large part of their income comes from ransoms. You get too many people not honoring those ransoms and eventually you'll get this: Originally by: Greygal I will very much hesitate to pay a ransom to any pirate again in the future. A pirate like Carvin just makes every pirate look bad and should be hunted to hell and back by every other pirate. But than that's just my personal thoughts. Frankly, for future reference Greygal, as they say, birds of a feather flock together, which I find to be very true in Eve. So best to not bother paying an offered ransom if ever caught by anyone from [ID10T] again. I see what you're saying, but I don't think that dishonouring a ransom is greifing specifically - sure, sometimes it is just to annoy someone else, because you can, but sometimes it is simply to slice off a little bit of extra profit. That having been said, it is pretty low to offer someone a way out, and not actually give it to them... on rare occasions when I've offered a ransom, I've honoured it, simply because it is good business sense; eg. take a tiny hit in profit now, to foster goodwill in the future (I find it amusing that ransoming can generate goodwill). I don't really see it as an issue of honour exactly, simply a method of keeping your "customer base" as fat and docile as possible! So I don't see Carvin as more of a scumbag than anyone else, but more as someone who consumes exhaustively without taking care to plant seeds for future growth... so he's a fool who's ruining it for all the other pirates, but surely bastard on an equal footing.
jimmyjam Gallente Sinner Among Saints Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2009.12.31 13:33:00 - [12] Originally by: Greygal I've only been playing Eve for about 7 months, and sure, I've made a lot of newbie mistakes... a lot! - but I never thought paying ransom was a mistake before. I've been caught by pirates six times and every time I've been offered a ransom to pay in order to release my ship (or in one case, not destroy my pod). Each time I paid, and each time, the ransom was honored, I went on my tail-tucked, sheepish way, limping to safety. Until today. Make a really stupid and silly long story short: I was web scrammed by Lord Carvin of [ID10T], he got into my hull, and then he offered me a $25 million isk ransom. I withdrew my drones, I shut down my turrets, and I paid the $25 million isk ransom. He stopped firing for a bit, but he didn't release the warp scram. I could not get away. He started firing on me again, and destroyed my Myrm. Spamming the warp-to-zero button, I did get my pod to safety. Look, I know Lord Carvin is a pirate, and a very experienced player. I know pirating is part of Eve, and despite the annoyance of it all, I don't really mind it that much - it does add a bit of flair and excitement to the game! I expect pirates to gank, can flip, and generally wreak havoc on the universe. That's expected. What's not expected is a pirate, especially one of several years experience like Lord Carvin, to have no honor. From everything I've read and heard and learned in my short time in Eve, destroying a player's ship after they've paid the ransom is not honorable pirate behavior. Yes, I know it sounds crazy, but I do expect pirates to have a certain amount of honor, even though they are pirates! Even in the crazy sandbox of Eve, there are some few givens, some few unwritten "rules" ... ya, I'm probably insane... Anyway, I guess paying 7 ransoms and having 6 of them honored is really not bad, statistically, but I will very much hesitate to pay a ransom to any pirate again in the future. Okay, I'm done whining/venting :) Greygal The guys corp ticker says it all dont it.A lot of the new school pies dishonor ransoms.The pies that are worth a sh it honor them.
Skoot Local Threat	Posted - 2009.12.31 17:19:00 - [13] LOL @ Anyone in eve that says Hono(u)r
Dire Radiant	Posted - 2009.12.31 17:31:00 - [14] Originally by: Skoot LOL @ Anyone in eve that says Hono(u)r Toon is worse.
Ekon Bor Amarr Van Diemen's Demise	Posted - 2009.12.31 17:35:00 - [15] Originally by: Malephar Some will tell you there is no honour in Eve. Some will tell you to stop crying. All will laugh. Many will honour ransoms... if you're seeing a 6:1 ratio of ransom honouring then thats not too bad. Don't knock the pirate that dishonours the ransom any more than one who honours it, however. Sure, you might be left feeling like you got lucky if you pay a ransom and are released, and think better of the pirate who honoured it, but remember that both are in business to make profit, and both are essentially being bastards to you. What an utter pile of *******s. Both those that honour ransoms and those that don't are in business to make a profit, agreed. But one did what he said he'd do, and one did not. Both might essentially be being bastards, but one is a reasonable, moderate bastard and one isn't. Pirates who dishonour ransoms, are also in it for the killmails. Which means that they aren't just running a business anymore, they're running an ego. Which is cool, but it ain't the same. I'm not arguing that the OP deserves a lot of sympathy - when it comes to ransoms, you pays your money, you takes your chances - but this idea that pirates who deliver on the deal = same as people who don't, is as dumb as a bag of hammers.
Ravenclaw2kk	Posted - 2009.12.31 17:42:00 - [16] Originally by: Greygal I've only been playing Eve for about 7 months, and sure, I've made a lot of newbie mistakes... a lot! - but I never thought paying ransom was a mistake before. I've been caught by pirates six times and every time I've been offered a ransom to pay in order to release my ship (or in one case, not destroy my pod). Each time I paid, and each time, the ransom was honored, I went on my tail-tucked, sheepish way, limping to safety. Until today. Make a really stupid and silly long story short: I was web scrammed by Lord Carvin of [ID10T], he got into my hull, and then he offered me a $25 million isk ransom. I withdrew my drones, I shut down my turrets, and I paid the $25 million isk ransom. He stopped firing for a bit, but he didn't release the warp scram. I could not get away. He started firing on me again, and destroyed my Myrm. Spamming the warp-to-zero button, I did get my pod to safety. Look, I know Lord Carvin is a pirate, and a very experienced player. I know pirating is part of Eve, and despite the annoyance of it all, I don't really mind it that much - it does add a bit of flair and excitement to the game! I expect pirates to gank, can flip, and generally wreak havoc on the universe. That's expected. What's not expected is a pirate, especially one of several years experience like Lord Carvin, to have no honor. From everything I've read and heard and learned in my short time in Eve, destroying a player's ship after they've paid the ransom is not honorable pirate behavior. Yes, I know it sounds crazy, but I do expect pirates to have a certain amount of honor, even though they are pirates! Even in the crazy sandbox of Eve, there are some few givens, some few unwritten "rules" ... ya, I'm probably insane... Anyway, I guess paying 7 ransoms and having 6 of them honored is really not bad, statistically, but I will very much hesitate to pay a ransom to any pirate again in the future. Okay, I'm done whining/venting :) Greygal Bit of advice - you need to post some proof with accusations. A wallet screenshot along with the KM would do nicely. yo haven;t been trolled yet but it's bound to happen
nautix	Posted - 2009.12.31 17:45:00 - [17] Originally by: Skoot LOL @ Anyone in eve that says Hono(u)r and that is incorrect how exactly? :) If someone does not speak american english it does not make it wrong ;) Sorry for stumbling aside from the topic, but back on topic! There is no honour amongst pirates, they can ransom but don't have to, they can ransom but not keep it. Certain pirates live off the ransoms and they will honour them, however most don't care and are out for the killmails, the ransom for them is a juicy bonus that precedes the killmail
ANGRY23 the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.12.31 18:03:00 - [18] The United (BL3H) honor 100% ransoms so come to rancer next time kthxbye [/url]
willdieinabout24hrs	Posted - 2009.12.31 18:05:00 - [19] Sorry to hear it. Lord Carvin and his friends are all jerks. Most of them are also too stupid and cowardly to go out to 0.0. Here's a partial list of his alts and friends for your future revenge: Corps------ Black Marsh X (anyone with this corp in their history is a RL friend or alt of Lord Carvin) Modro Modro Roughnecks Pursuit of Power Nova Republic Nova Shipyards characters---- The Fraek GeorgeCY Drunkenirony Jebediah Beane eldiablo blanco the intrepid luav Yussef Jenny Twotone Commander Criton ImAMog Astrial Stargazer Fatal Solititude OrionsBelt Doug White jamessearle0 tiptip zippyant nova fox atwa awta ember fox uncertain---- slon02-got this one second hand, not sure zo5o-got this one second hand, not sure Spectre Wraith (popped up on a search; not familiar with this one) don't forget battleclinic lists known associates
lil j0n	Posted - 2009.12.31 18:37:00 - [20] I'm going to reply the same way I replied to the outraged honorable pirates in Vasili VonHolst's thread of epicness: Rules for ransoms don't apply in highsec, because there's little to no return business. My only criticism is that he should not be teaching people this fact of life when they are so young and not so profitable.

Sir Carnage	Posted - 2009.12.31 18:51:00 - [21] My corp mates and I have run into Lord Carvin more than a couple times . We've found that the best way to deal with him is to do something he won't expect. Shoot back and then click in space. It'll throw him off and he won't know what to do. With any luck, he'll stop moving, try to figure out what to do, and give you enough time to blow him up. Quote: A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. - Douglas Adams
slon02	Posted - 2009.12.31 19:15:00 - [22] Just so you know, I'm not an alt or a friend of Lord Carvin- I can't say that I remember meeting him.
Arox Dax Gallente Terrorists with Attitudez	Posted - 2009.12.31 20:11:00 - [23] as you can see. there's a lot of people vouching for the corp ID 10 T Recruitment Maybe you can confuse them/him and join the corp, blow them up from the inside, as someone has already said, the corp name is apt for this crowd,
Lyris Nairn Caldari Hashimoto Corporation	Posted - 2009.12.31 21:56:00 - [24] If the worst thing you have to complain about in your life at the moment is something negative that happened in a video game, then you have a pretty nice life. :)
mandaro	Posted - 2009.12.31 23:05:00 - [25] Dishonouring ransoms and agreed 1 v 1s are two things that I rank amongst the lowest forms of scummery in eve. I wish him many blobs upon his head.
Andrea Skye Caldari The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.01.01 00:02:00 - [26] Some people are just turds. But its eve, always a chance your about to get screwed over. Its what makes the game intresting.
Jesslyn Daggererux Private Nuisance	Posted - 2010.01.01 00:42:00 - [27] i feel relevant to this conversation. i always show up in the honor threads it feels. i do highsec wars and mission invasion and never honor a ransom. i always throw that out there because eve has too many players for them to remember one little name in one miniscule chance i ever run into them. for what i do, its bad to honor ransoms. if you dont get why, i guess you can just search my post history and find out. i explained it in detail many times now. and for lowsec? it can quite easily be worth it to dishonor still using a little thing called math. oh, and no need discussing what if in 0.0 since its safer than lowsec anyway. big bears out there. Originally by: CCP Fallout Hola, esta forum es ingles solamente. This forum is English only. Welcome to my lock. Now please, zip your pants. I don't need a show.
CATfromCheshire Zabijaki i Pijaki YARRR and CO	Posted - 2010.01.01 01:04:00 - [28] Some ppl just try to make money this way, so bastards who dishonours ransoms are killmail ***s, bad for business. There is similar situation with players, who disrespect duels - most of them do respect 1vs1, coz it is most amusing in eve. And some of them dont't, coz they are killmail ***s with no skill, and they do not care.Thats the difference between greenhorn, and more advanced player - casuals (and WoW players, occasionaly playing EVE)usually simple do not understand how amusing is to ransom a pod (I do it for fun, not for money), or kill a well skilled pilot in nice duel.
Sir Carnage	Posted - 2010.01.01 01:25:00 - [29] I know I don't care to ransom ships, but I will ransom a pod. Sometimes it pays, sometimes they're in a jump clone. I do honor ransoms because chances are that if you hunt in certain areas most of the time you will run across them again eventually. And yes, they will remember the guy that blew up their ship and then honored the ransom of their pod. Not honoring ransoms only makes sense if you don't have a typical time and day(s) of the week you play and you don't hunt in the same areas. If you do any of those and don't honor ransoms you're likely just shooting yourself in the foot. You may not remember them, but they'll remember you. Quote: A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. - Douglas Adams
IvyRose	Posted - 2010.01.01 01:27:00 - [30] Originally by: willdieinabout24hrs Sorry to hear it. Lord Carvin and his friends are all jerks. Most of them are also too stupid and cowardly to go out to 0.0. Here's a partial list of his alts and friends for your future revenge: Corps------ Black Marsh X (anyone with this corp in their history is a RL friend or alt of Lord Carvin) Modro Modro Roughnecks Pursuit of Power Nova Republic Nova Shipyards characters---- The Fraek GeorgeCY Drunkenirony Jebediah Beane eldiablo blanco the intrepid luav Yussef Jenny Twotone Commander Criton ImAMog Astrial Stargazer Fatal Solititude OrionsBelt Doug White jamessearle0 tiptip zippyant nova fox atwa awta ember fox uncertain---- slon02-got this one second hand, not sure zo5o-got this one second hand, not sure Spectre Wraith (popped up on a search; not familiar with this one) don't forget battleclinic lists known associates Im the current CEO of Black Marsh and id like to correct your post we are not all RL friends or alts of Carvin so get your facts straight. Second of all if you kept up on anything youd see that alot of those names are now in 0.0 corporations. Thank you and for future reference if you have an issue get your facts straight. Have a wonderful day.

Big Gym2	Posted - 2010.01.01 01:41:00 - [31] Originally by: IvyRose Originally by: willdieinabout24hrs Sorry to hear it. Lord Carvin and his friends are all jerks. Most of them are also too stupid and cowardly to go out to 0.0. Here's a partial list of his alts and friends for your future revenge: Corps------ Black Marsh X (anyone with this corp in their history is a RL friend or alt of Lord Carvin) Modro Modro Roughnecks Pursuit of Power Nova Republic Nova Shipyards characters---- The Fraek GeorgeCY Drunkenirony Jebediah Beane eldiablo blanco the intrepid luav Yussef Jenny Twotone Commander Criton ImAMog Astrial Stargazer Fatal Solititude OrionsBelt Doug White jamessearle0 tiptip zippyant nova fox atwa awta ember fox uncertain---- slon02-got this one second hand, not sure zo5o-got this one second hand, not sure Spectre Wraith (popped up on a search; not familiar with this one) don't forget battleclinic lists known associates Im the current CEO of Black Marsh and id like to correct your post we are not all RL friends or alts of Carvin so get your facts straight. Second of all if you kept up on anything youd see that alot of those names are now in 0.0 corporations. Thank you and for future reference if you have an issue get your facts straight. Have a wonderful day. OMG WTF is this? Fatal and Astrial make the list but I dont? I am way more scary then those two! BTW who is this Lord Carvin guy we are all talking about?
Jenny Twotone Eve Unity	Posted - 2010.01.01 01:41:00 - [32] Confirming that this topic is now all about me. Thank you. You may proceed to regale the public with tales of my adventures in zpacezhip gamez!1!` Seriously though, feel free to talk more about me.
Neurotica Zeshi Gallente Worst Case Scenario.	Posted - 2010.01.01 01:44:00 - [33] You would think after getting ransomed 2-3 times, you might have learned your lesson, but 7 times And after 7 months playing i would have hoped by now you would understand dual active tank setups just dont work. Myrmidon has a bonus to armor tanking stick to it, unless your passive tanking or buffer shield tanked with neutrons :P
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2010.01.01 02:53:00 - [34] Originally by: willdieinabout24hrs Sorry to hear it. Lord Carvin and his friends are all jerks. Most of them are also too stupid and cowardly to go out to 0.0. Here's a partial list of his alts and friends for your future revenge: Corps------ Black Marsh X (anyone with this corp in their history is a RL friend or alt of Lord Carvin) Modro Modro Roughnecks Pursuit of Power Nova Republic Nova Shipyards characters---- The Fraek GeorgeCY Drunkenirony Jebediah Beane eldiablo blanco the intrepid luav Yussef Jenny Twotone Commander Criton ImAMog Astrial Stargazer Fatal Solititude OrionsBelt Doug White jamessearle0 tiptip zippyant nova fox atwa awta ember fox uncertain---- slon02-got this one second hand, not sure zo5o-got this one second hand, not sure Spectre Wraith (popped up on a search; not familiar with this one) don't forget battleclinic lists known associates Woot Im on the list! Building and designing imaginary spaceships is a dangerous business I tell you, Im sure getting a paper cut is is probably the most of my worries from the safety of my office in Mies Oursalert or Dodixie and considering what I work on getting a paper cut would be exciting! because I dont see it being possible on my screen. Also its Novafox Shipyards btw. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 27DEC09
Jenny Twotone Eve Unity	Posted - 2010.01.01 03:22:00 - [35] More talking about me already. Time is a wastin and we have a lot of ground to cover. Tick Tock.
Adelina Jasna	Posted - 2010.01.01 03:46:00 - [36] Lord Carvin's a familiar name for some reason I remembered he was a fail pvper or something along those lines posting around on the C&P forums
Lord Windu Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.01.01 04:03:00 - [37] Originally by: Adelina Jasna Lord Carvin's a familiar name for some reason I remembered he was a fail pvper or something along those lines posting around on the C&P forums You sure you not getting him mixed up with me? ------
Sir Carnage	Posted - 2010.01.01 04:14:00 - [38] Originally by: Lord Windu Originally by: Adelina Jasna Lord Carvin's a familiar name for some reason I remembered he was a fail pvper or something along those lines posting around on the C&P forums You sure you not getting him mixed up with me? She could be, but it'd still be an accurate assessment. Quote: A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. - Douglas Adams
Chajitsoyo Gallente Sanford Space Salvage	Posted - 2010.01.01 04:33:00 - [39] Originally by: Jenny Twotone More talking about me already. Time is a wastin and we have a lot of ground to cover. Tick Tock. Jenny Twotone gave me Syphilis, even after I paid her not to. --------------------------------- Everything in moderation, including moderation.
Greygal Gallente Sephray Industries	Posted - 2010.01.01 04:57:00 - [40] Thanks everyone for all the responses and especially thank you for not flaming me for whining or being stupid (I do that enough myself)! It's really appreciated... special thanks all those who sent me evemail with some excellent advice and tips ... just about all were something I didn't know before. Every time I've been pirated, I've learned something new... one of the things I love about Eve, there's always something new to learn! Greygal P.S. Thanks Jesslyn Daggererux for letting me know you don't honor ransoms! It's ... honorable! ... to be so open about that! I hope I never run into you, but at least now I know not to bother with ransom should that ever happen!

Sir Carnage	Posted - 2010.01.01 06:10:00 - [41] Originally by: Greygal Thanks everyone for all the responses and especially thank you for not flaming me for whining or being stupid (I do that enough myself)! It's really appreciated... I knew we missed something. Um, Go back to WoW? Quote: A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. - Douglas Adams
Neurotica Zeshi Gallente Worst Case Scenario.	Posted - 2010.01.01 06:32:00 - [42] Originally by: Greygal specialEvery time I've been pirated, I've learned something new... one of the things I love about Eve, there's always something new to learn! So the 8th time you get pirated, you wont be paying the ransom then ?
RyanSnake Caldari Abassy	Posted - 2010.01.01 06:38:00 - [43] Hey at least you've been givin the option so far. My run-ins with pirates, thus far, have involved a splattered pod. No ransom. ------------ The Pax Integral
Greygal Gallente Sephray Industries	Posted - 2010.01.01 10:37:00 - [44] Originally by: Sir Carnage Originally by: Greygal Thanks everyone for all the responses and especially thank you for not flaming me for whining or being stupid (I do that enough myself)! It's really appreciated... I knew we missed something. Um, Go back to WoW? ROFL!! Actually, I've never played WoW! Greygal
Greygal Gallente Sephray Industries	Posted - 2010.01.01 10:46:00 - [45] Originally by: Neurotica Zeshi So the 8th time you get pirated, you wont be paying the ransom then ? I haven't decided yet Greygal
Wieting Foyu Gallente Foyu Trading World	Posted - 2010.01.01 10:48:00 - [46] Don't pay ransoms that way you will always know if it will be honored. If you can't handle the explosion you didn't deserve the ship anyway.
Tom Warrior	Posted - 2010.01.01 10:59:00 - [47] Originally by: Sir Carnage Originally by: Greygal Thanks everyone for all the responses and especially thank you for not flaming me for whining or being stupid (I do that enough myself)! It's really appreciated... I knew we missed something. Um, Go back to WoW? Um, go back to DIE SUCKA!
luav	Posted - 2010.01.01 17:22:00 - [48] WTF you stay down in 0.0 to long and people say you a pirate, check my employment history before using my name and get your facts straight. ty and later
Holy8th	Posted - 2010.01.01 23:31:00 - [49] Originally by: willdieinabout24hrs Sorry to hear it. Lord Carvin and his friends are all jerks. Most of them are also too stupid and cowardly to go out to 0.0. Here's a partial list of his alts and friends for your future revenge: Corps------ Black Marsh X (anyone with this corp in their history is a RL friend or alt of Lord Carvin) Modro Modro Roughnecks Pursuit of Power Nova Republic Nova Shipyards characters---- The Fraek GeorgeCY Drunkenirony Jebediah Beane eldiablo blanco the intrepid luav Yussef Jenny Twotone Commander Criton ImAMog Astrial Stargazer Fatal Solititude OrionsBelt Doug White jamessearle0 tiptip zippyant nova fox atwa awta ember fox uncertain---- slon02-got this one second hand, not sure zo5o-got this one second hand, not sure Spectre Wraith (popped up on a search; not familiar with this one) don't forget battleclinic lists known associates wtf? why am i not on the list?
GeorgeCY Gallente ID-10-T INC.	Posted - 2010.01.01 23:32:00 - [50] i made it twice!!! \0/

Cyprus Black Caldari Cowboy Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.01.01 23:39:00 - [51] It's ransom horror stories like these that remind me never to pay ransoms ever. ___________________________________ "In the land of predators, the lion does not fear the jackal." -Dexter
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.01.02 00:26:00 - [52] Originally by: GeorgeCY i made it twice!!! \0/ Awesome, dude! You are definitely a winner among ID10Ts! Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
Greygal Gallente Sephray Industries	Posted - 2010.01.03 02:37:00 - [53] Originally by: Ravenclaw2kk Bit of advice - you need to post some proof with accusations. A wallet screenshot along with the KM would do nicely. yo haven;t been trolled yet but it's bound to happen As requested: here is a screenshot of the wallet entry, showing my payment of the ransom. As I stated, he never released the warp scrambler, so I could not escape. One minute later is the insurance payout. Here is relevant portion of the killmail: 2009.12.30 22:57:00 Victim: Greygal Corp: Sephray Industries Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Myrmidon System: Eglennaert Security: 0.8 Damage Taken: 26005 Involved parties: Name: Corelior Sentinel / Serpentis Damage Done: 18930 Name: Lord Carvin (laid the final blow) Security: -1.4 Corp: ID-10-T INC. Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Ship: Vexor Weapon: Light Neutron Blaster II
Greygal Gallente Sephray Industries	Posted - 2010.01.03 02:42:00 - [54] I must admit I find this funny... Lord Carvin's corp (ID-10-T INC.) has now declared war against my corp. Pay ransom, lose ship anyway, then get war-dec'd. Griefers, I swear! :) That's Eve for you!! LOL!! Greygal
Paul Clavet Honorless Internet Jerks	Posted - 2010.01.03 03:20:00 - [55] To quote my good friend Tavrek: "Honor vs. Hilarity. Hilarity wins every time." ---- Blog: My Loot, Your Tears
Terra Mikael Private Nuisance	Posted - 2010.01.03 05:57:00 - [56] Originally by: Grunanca Its bad apples like him that makes other pirates have to find alternative ways of getting isk. I hope he will get his ass handed to him and im sure he will. I hope you will continue paying in the future, its not many that dont honor ransoms. Yes, because the guys who whoop your ass and take your lunch money are much nicer than the guys that whoop your ass, take your lunch money, and then kick you in the stomach and laugh. If they are dumb enough to pay, they are probably dumb enough to get caught by pirates six times in as many months. Seriously, you can't make this **** up. ___________ Proof that Daniel Jackson is a ret@rded furry
Zill The Scope	Posted - 2010.01.03 06:04:00 - [57] you never ever pay ransom, 110% garentee you will die anyway. To think otherwise is very nieve mate :(. here is what you do... 1.OC all mods (damages them) 2.Set self destruct 3.keep him talking till Self Destruct is down to 20 seconds left. Have all your cargo selected an eject it.. (strait away target the can an destroy it) 4.The ninja will wake up at that point that hes rumbled, an start shooting you, eject from ship an insta warp in pod (most ninja's aint worth ****) an you can often get away. But whatever you do never ever ever pay, even if you have 10 bil in isk in hold, destroy it cos its better than them gettign 1 isk.
Jenny Twotone Eve Unity	Posted - 2010.01.03 07:55:00 - [58] More talking about me already. Here, I'll help you get started. I wear a viking helmet, one sock, and headphones when I play eve.
Price McChecker	Posted - 2010.01.04 19:39:00 - [59] Edited by: Price McChecker on 04/01/2010 19:40:07 Originally by: Jenny Twotone I wear a viking helmet, one sock, and headphones when I play eve. Pics or GTFO! (I'm hoping thats ALL you wear! ) --------------------------------------- Dulce et decorum est pro forum scribere
MotherFarker	Posted - 2010.01.05 20:08:00 - [60] its funny to see the denials of the alts. hey IvyRose, you do know people can read employment histories, right? and you do know that battleclinic has all the info on who is killing who with who else, right? YOU ARE A LIAR. A bad one... Victim: Stoleas Day: 5/29/09 Attackers: IvyRose and... Lord Carvin (on Battleclinic killboards, simple search) Linky to Kill

Jenny Twotone Eve Unity	Posted - 2010.01.05 22:52:00 - [61] Originally by: MotherFarker its funny to see the denials of the alts. hey IvyRose, you do know people can read employment histories, right? and you do know that battleclinic has all the info on who is killing who with who else, right? YOU ARE A LIAR. A bad one... Victim: Stoleas Day: 5/29/09 Attackers: IvyRose and... Lord Carvin (on Battleclinic killboards, simple search) Linky to Kill You are hilarious troll. More talking about me primate. Oh, and get over it you loser, and post with your main already.
MotherFarker	Posted - 2010.01.06 00:41:00 - [62] What main? The two of us are just alike. An endless supply of alts alts alts alts alts alts. Like you I wander eve in an endless series of hosts. A parasite boring away. A boring parasite. Unlike you i was never a can flipper. lame. so you arent even going to admit Black Marsh X is just a bunch Lord Carvin alts? The killmails oh the killmails. So many alts and corps and on and on. Why bother denying?
Jenny Twotone Eve Unity	Posted - 2010.01.06 00:58:00 - [63] I've never flipped a can, ever. The only reason you're posting on your forum troll alt is that you are scared to post with your main. /yawn..... You're just scared of the big beautiful black sexy woman that I am kicking the crap out of you in a zpacezhip game. oh noes. /me takes her sock off.
ImAMog	Posted - 2010.01.06 01:36:00 - [64] Originally by: MotherFarker What main? The two of us are just alike. An endless supply of alts alts alts alts alts alts. Like you I wander eve in an endless series of hosts. A parasite boring away. A boring parasite. Unlike you i was never a can flipper. lame. so you arent even going to admit Black Marsh X is just a bunch Lord Carvin alts? The killmails oh the killmails. So many alts and corps and on and on. Why bother denying? If i was an alt or RL friend of LC i would spend all my time blowing up tards like you, after collecting the ransom of course. Btw thank you for the free publicity. Never thought my corp would actually make the forums
Renagaide Tempest	Posted - 2010.01.06 05:37:00 - [65] the pirate code is actually just a loose set of quippy whitticisms....not really a code at all.....
Eestaan	Posted - 2010.01.07 09:45:00 - [66] Two rules to follow: 1. NEVEREVER pay ransom... because.. 2. Dont fly what you cannot afford to loose!
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.01.07 10:03:00 - [67] Ironically most of them are in Providence based alliances. ---
Ospie Core Impulse	Posted - 2010.01.07 11:37:00 - [68] Eh, my corp and I sometimes honour ransoms, sometimes not. Alot depends on the type of day we've had and the person we're dealing with. I'm not particulary for or against honouring ransoms, I know the argument on both sides. I do know that we've never dishonoured a singing ransom though, some things are sacred to us, though just about everything else isn't (scams/corp infiltration/dishonouring ransoms/dishonoured 1v1s - though at least unless we expect a substancial financial gain we don't dishonour those [faction ships I'm looking at you!]). We play the game for fun and some of us don't enjoy missioning, mining, ratting. So since we're not one of those regions with thousands of different people running through constantly, we do sc**** the bottom of the barrel for additional cash. That said, Sareth Servil will never dishonour ransoms cause he doesn't think that's right! Good on him.
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2010.01.07 12:51:00 - [69] Originally by: Greygal I've only been playing Eve for about 7 months, and sure, I've made a lot of newbie mistakes... a lot! - but I never thought paying ransom was a mistake before. I've been caught by pirates six times and every time I've been offered a ransom to pay in order to release my ship (or in one case, not destroy my pod). Each time I paid, and each time, the ransom was honored, I went on my tail-tucked, sheepish way, limping to safety. Until today. Make a really stupid and silly long story short: I was web scrammed by Lord Carvin of [ID10T], he got into my hull, and then he offered me a $25 million isk ransom. I withdrew my drones, I shut down my turrets, and I paid the $25 million isk ransom. He stopped firing for a bit, but he didn't release the warp scram. I could not get away. He started firing on me again, and destroyed my Myrm. Spamming the warp-to-zero button, I did get my pod to safety. Look, I know Lord Carvin is a pirate, and a very experienced player. I know pirating is part of Eve, and despite the annoyance of it all, I don't really mind it that much - it does add a bit of flair and excitement to the game! I expect pirates to gank, can flip, and generally wreak havoc on the universe. That's expected. What's not expected is a pirate, especially one of several years experience like Lord Carvin, to have no honor. From everything I've read and heard and learned in my short time in Eve, destroying a player's ship after they've paid the ransom is not honorable pirate behavior. Yes, I know it sounds crazy, but I do expect pirates to have a certain amount of honor, even though they are pirates! Even in the crazy sandbox of Eve, there are some few givens, some few unwritten "rules" ... ya, I'm probably insane... Anyway, I guess paying 7 ransoms and having 6 of them honored is really not bad, statistically, but I will very much hesitate to pay a ransom to any pirate again in the future. Okay, I'm done whining/venting :) Greygal Even if he has "years or experience" (aka SP) he is still pretty much a noob :) When I post a ransom and it is paied, I honor it, its simply a method for me to make isk, and I ruin it for myself in the long run by not honoring it. Thats the mistake noob like Lord C make. But he might just be a "weekend pirate" in low sec for PVP action and a carebear other times for all I know. Tho, I do not always post a ransom, depends on the situation. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Jenny Twotone Eve Unity	Posted - 2010.01.07 14:32:00 - [70] Originally by: Suitonia Ironically most of them are in Providence based alliances. You just can't help yourself can you, sore loser. Just take your loss and say GF and move on. But I know you prefer to scream and whine and puke in public instead. But please, keep talking about me. Don't let me stop you.

Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.01.07 15:05:00 - [71] Originally by: Jenny Twotone Originally by: Suitonia Ironically most of them are in Providence based alliances. You just can't help yourself can you, sore loser. Just take your loss and say GF and move on. But I know you prefer to scream and whine and puke in public instead. But please, keep talking about me. Don't let me stop you. The only bitter person in this thread is you. I was not directing that at you at all. But I'm sure Sylph will be a great place for you, If anyone is a loser it's them. Alliance Information Summary Sylph Alliance 88 kills, 239 losses, and -2181 points If you want attention, I'll give you some. PS: I've never died to you. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Jenny+Twotone Looks like you'll fit right into Sylph. There are 14 day old Rifter pilots with more battleclinic points than you. 63 kills for a pilot your age, and a mere 369 points. 369 points spread over 63 kills means most of your kills are ganks/blob kills. (82 kills on eve-kill.net but not exactly a stunning improvement) Your only "good fight" solo kills consist of you killing a Crow in a Taranis (I've done that 63 times, and 23 times in an Incursus) killing a sentinel in a taranis, which is probably the only good kill you have and killing a mission running Drake in an Ishtar. I guess dishonoring ransoms works out to be the more profitable action when you rarely kill anyone at all. Leave the whole forum trolling and being good at the game thing to me hun, you've got a loooong way to go before you catch up to a real women like me. ---
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2010.01.07 15:14:00 - [72] Originally by: Suitonia Ironically most of them are in Providence based alliances. G'day, Ahab. {...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness}
Jenny Twotone Eve Unity	Posted - 2010.01.07 15:20:00 - [73] And we all know how accurate those battleclinic stats are! righto Like I said, get over it and move on honeypie, it's a zpacezhip game. I know you made that toon cause you loved my haircut, and my style, and imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but you gotta get your own thing sweetie. YOU can DO IT!
Parthun Mire	Posted - 2010.01.07 15:20:00 - [74] Originally by: Suitonia Originally by: Jenny Twotone Originally by: Suitonia Ironically most of them are in Providence based alliances. You just can't help yourself can you, sore loser. Just take your loss and say GF and move on. But I know you prefer to scream and whine and puke in public instead. But please, keep talking about me. Don't let me stop you. The only bitter person in this thread is you. I was not directing that at you at all. But I'm sure Sylph will be a great place for you, If anyone is a loser it's them. Alliance Information Summary Sylph Alliance 88 kills, 239 losses, and -2181 points If you want attention, I'll give you some. PS: I've never died to you. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Jenny+Twotone Looks like you'll fit right into Sylph. There are 14 day old Rifter pilots with more battleclinic points than you. 63 kills for a pilot your age, and a mere 369 points. 369 points spread over 63 kills means most of your kills are ganks/blob kills. (82 kills on eve-kill.net but not exactly a stunning improvement) Your only "good fight" solo kills consist of you killing a Crow in a Taranis (I've done that 63 times, and 23 times in an Incursus) killing a sentinel in a taranis, which is probably the only good kill you have and killing a mission running Drake in an Ishtar. I guess dishonoring ransoms works out to be the more profitable action when you rarely kill anyone at all. Leave the whole forum trolling and being good at the game thing to me hun, you've got a loooong way to go before you catch up to a real women like me. You know it kind of gets tiresome and two dimensional to have someone forever loitering around every corner who obviously takes this game way too seriously in a very unhealthy way. If you so desperately need a cross to bear I highly suggest you take up actual real life humanitarian work, rather than incessantly belittle video game subscribers with moral profundities. It would certainly behoove you to spend so much energy on something that actually matters.
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2010.01.07 15:25:00 - [75] Originally by: Parthun Mire You know it kind of gets tiresome and two dimensional to have someone forever loitering around every corner who obviously takes this game way too seriously in a very unhealthy way. If you so desperately need a cross to bear I highly suggest you take up actual real life humanitarian work, rather than incessantly belittle video game subscribers with moral profundities. It would certainly behoove you to spend so much energy on something that actually matters. I really dislike that it randomly chooses an alt to post with whenever you reset your cookies, {...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness}
My Postman	Posted - 2010.01.07 15:29:00 - [76] There is only one way to handle this, NEVER pay ransom, get over the loss and carry on. Don¦t feed the rats!
Jenny Twotone Eve Unity	Posted - 2010.01.07 15:30:00 - [77] that's very profound. I salute you sir. o7
Ran Khanon Amarr The Phantom Acolytes	Posted - 2010.01.07 15:30:00 - [78] Originally by: Suitonia Originally by: Jenny Twotone Originally by: Suitonia Ironically most of them are in Providence based alliances. You just can't help yourself can you, sore loser. Just take your loss and say GF and move on. But I know you prefer to scream and whine and puke in public instead. But please, keep talking about me. Don't let me stop you. The only bitter person in this thread is you. I was not directing that at you at all. But I'm sure Sylph will be a great place for you, If anyone is a loser it's them. Alliance Information Summary Sylph Alliance 88 kills, 239 losses, and -2181 points If you want attention, I'll give you some. PS: I've never died to you. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Jenny+Twotone Looks like you'll fit right into Sylph. There are 14 day old Rifter pilots with more battleclinic points than you. 63 kills for a pilot your age, and a mere 369 points. 369 points spread over 63 kills means most of your kills are ganks/blob kills. (82 kills on eve-kill.net but not exactly a stunning improvement) Your only "good fight" solo kills consist of you killing a Crow in a Taranis (I've done that 63 times, and 23 times in an Incursus) killing a sentinel in a taranis, which is probably the only good kill you have and killing a mission running Drake in an Ishtar. I guess dishonoring ransoms works out to be the more profitable action when you rarely kill anyone at all. Leave the whole forum trolling and being good at the game thing to me hun, you've got a loooong way to go before you catch up to a real women like me. Pwnage! Also: can I have your babies? coughs I mean ... will you have mine? Please re-size your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.01.07 15:31:00 - [79] You're right it's a game. And I'm just lots better at it than you. The haircut is the only good thing about you sweetie. ---
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2010.01.07 15:37:00 - [80] Originally by: Suitonia You're right it's a game. And I'm just lots better at it than you. The haircut is the only good thing about you sweetie. Suitonia's early life: "NO!!! I'M BETTER AT DODGEBALL MOMMY, WHY DID THEY CUT ME FROM THE TEAM, WAAAAAAAH! SOMEDAY I WILL SHOW THEM! SHOW THEM ALL!" {...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness}

Jenny Twotone Eve Unity	Posted - 2010.01.07 15:46:00 - [81] Originally by: Suitonia You're right it's a game. And I'm just lots better at it than you. The haircut is the only good thing about you sweetie. You has a lot of issues funny lady. I know cause I've read your rants in local as you stay cloaked up. ~~still the original~~
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2010.01.07 15:58:00 - [82] Edited by: Mendolus on 07/01/2010 15:59:02 Originally by: Jenny Twotone Originally by: Suitonia You're right it's a game. And I'm just lots better at it than you. The haircut is the only good thing about you sweetie. You has a lot of issues funny lady. I know cause I've read your rants in local as you stay cloaked up. ~~still the original~~ Suitonia In Local About like that ^ {...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness}
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.01.07 16:57:00 - [83] I think it's cute that Sylph think we fit cloaks to Thrashers and Taranis', they still haven't figured out how to use the directional scanner yet. The only ship I've fit a cloak to in the past 6 months that isn 't a dedicated ship (Bomber/Recon etc.) was a single Stabber. But feel free to look at my losses and tell me where the cloaks are fitted. ~~~ Owning your alliances since May 07 ~~~ ---
Jenny Twotone Eve Unity	Posted - 2010.01.07 17:39:00 - [84] You can tell the stories all you like sweet cheeks. I'm laughing at the fact you feel you have to defend yourself and reply at all. It is touching in a "should we feed the animals?" kind of way. But please, keep talking about me. And really, what do you have against Sylph anyway, I'm pretty new there, but they seem like a nice bunch of guys. I could ask for a bit more aggression on their part. But you work with what you have.
Sol'Kanar Private Nuisance	Posted - 2010.01.07 17:52:00 - [85] The only thing funnier than a moron crying over ransoms is a pirate crying over other pirates. Bu-hu, you can't get all the victims to pay a ransom. Harden the **** up, you lo-sec sissies.
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.01.07 18:20:00 - [86] I don't have anything against Sylph sugar. I just made a comment about alot of ex-pirates and ex-ransom dishonours have ended up in alliances that apparently are Anti-Pirates and take their word seriously etc. in a joking fasion, since its fairly amusing. Your the one who bitter flamed me for making a joke about that, because your mad or something about me being better than your alliance or whatever. ---
Jenny Twotone Eve Unity	Posted - 2010.01.07 18:29:00 - [87] Originally by: Suitonia I don't have anything against Sylph sugar. I just made a comment about alot of ex-pirates and ex-ransom dishonours have ended up in alliances that apparently are Anti-Pirates and take their word seriously etc. in a joking fasion, since its fairly amusing. Your the one who bitter flamed me for making a joke about that, because your mad or something about me being better than your alliance or whatever. I've never ransomed anyone. I've never flipped a can, or really engaged in any act of piracy, as you accuse me of. The only person around here who is mad is you. Anyone who knows you or has heard you yammer in local knows that. I was just curious what your problem was. You can't turn this around on me fatcamp. And like you, I too can afk cloak in system, eat a sandwich, occasionally rant in local, and declare I have won eve.
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.01.07 18:31:00 - [88] Simple solution: Pay no ransoms until pirates start seriously cracking down on the clowns that dishonor them (ie, ruining pirates' business). Ransom breakers should be ousted, not lauded as some do even in this thread. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.01.07 18:34:00 - [89] Originally by: Jenny Twotone Originally by: Suitonia I don't have anything against Sylph sugar. I just made a comment about alot of ex-pirates and ex-ransom dishonours have ended up in alliances that apparently are Anti-Pirates and take their word seriously etc. in a joking fasion, since its fairly amusing. Your the one who bitter flamed me for making a joke about that, because your mad or something about me being better than your alliance or whatever. I've never ransomed anyone. I've never flipped a can, or really engaged in any act of piracy, as you accuse me of. The only person around here who is mad is you. Anyone who knows you or has heard you yammer in local knows that. I was just curious what your problem was. You can't turn this around on me fatcamp. And like you, I too can afk cloak in system, eat a sandwich, occasionally rant in local, and declare I have won eve. You seem pretty mad considering I don't fit cloaks on my ships, maybe your madness has blinded your reality and perspective on things. ---
Jenny Twotone Eve Unity	Posted - 2010.01.07 18:35:00 - [90] Keep talking about me =) Just like I told you to.

Mendolus Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2010.01.07 18:43:00 - [91] Originally by: Jenny Twotone Originally by: Suitonia I don't have anything against Sylph sugar. I just made a comment about alot of ex-pirates and ex-ransom dishonours have ended up in alliances that apparently are Anti-Pirates and take their word seriously etc. in a joking fasion, since its fairly amusing. Your the one who bitter flamed me for making a joke about that, because your mad or something about me being better than your alliance or whatever. I've never ransomed anyone. I've never flipped a can, or really engaged in any act of piracy, as you accuse me of. The only person around here who is mad is you. Anyone who knows you or has heard you yammer in local knows that. I was just curious what your problem was. You can't turn this around on me fatcamp. And like you, I too can afk cloak in system, eat a sandwich, occasionally rant in local, and declare I have won eve. Suitonia suffers from victim syndrome. It does not matter if it is Providence or the fire hydrant down the street, they will always clamor about the great injustices down upon them by powers beyond their control. If you notice, Suitonia is literally incapable of escaping their own paradigm and is two dimensional in nature, meaning there is little occidental or even prurient evidence that their behavior would ever change regardless of the circumstances surrounding them. Meaning they rarely think for themselves, but merely maintain the same rhetoric again and again in new and often tiresome manner. Just watch them continue for days on this same topic, just spew random conversation pieces of little to no consequence, for instance here are some ideas: 1) Mention a random system in Providence 2) Talk about the weather 3) Describe how asteroid belts are especially beautiful right after downtime 4) Pet your dog 5) Type random adjectives and nouns and include a single verb somewhere in the mix 6) Tell Suitonia they are terrible 7) Tell Suitonia they are wonderful 8) Pick your nose and describe the texture of your dried mucus 9) Mention that you are going to give 100mil ISK to a random neutral in Providence if they win a duel 10) Create a random alt and post here calling Suitonia a godsend and the most wonderful human being to ever live 11) Alternately create an alt and make said statements about yourself 12) Don't forget to nuke some popcorn Hands down guarantee says Suitonia continues to say and repeat exactly the same things over and over no matter what you or anyone else in the entire game says. {...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness}
Killer Gandry Caldari Red Horizon Inc	Posted - 2010.01.07 18:43:00 - [92] Don't pay a thing. I rather loose an officer fitted ship and destroy all modules by overheating than paying 1 ISK. No need to feed the wolves, they will get fed anyways.
Joe Skellington Minmatar JOKAS Industries Revival Of The Talocan Empire	Posted - 2010.01.07 21:39:00 - [93] Originally by: Dire Radiant Originally by: Skoot LOL @ Anyone in eve that says Hono(u)r Toon is worse. Indeed it is.
Zo5o Broski Enterprises No Fun Allowed	Posted - 2010.01.09 07:32:00 - [94] Quote: zo5o-got this one second hand, not sure Confirming that I have no idea who Lord Carvin is, and that I'm highly amused by whatever circumstances somehow got me on that list. I'm famous and I didn't even have to do anything.
Terra Mikael Private Nuisance	Posted - 2010.01.28 11:34:00 - [95] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Simple solution: Pay no ransoms until pirates start seriously cracking down on the clowns that dishonor them (ie, ruining pirates' business). Ransom breakers should be ousted, not lauded as some do even in this thread. Yes, because people who don't believe in honor will really care that other people think bad about them in an online spaceship game, especially when a majority of the players will never read the forums to "oust" the guys that are ruining the pirates "business." Seriously, you really thought hard about this, didn't you? ___________ Proof that Daniel Jackson is a ret@rded furry
Winterjack	Posted - 2010.01.28 13:14:00 - [96] Originally by: Grunanca Its bad apples like him that makes other pirates have to find alternative ways of getting isk. I hope he will get his ass handed to him QFT. Left the "sure that he will" out cuz I'm not so sure. Certainly, pirates who honour ransoms are those who will pay most dearly for this kind of actions.
Lavraen Minmatar Animus Furandi	Posted - 2010.01.28 13:36:00 - [97] This e-honour debate never gets old Eats popcorn
Jovialmadness	Posted - 2010.01.28 13:48:00 - [98] Don't pay ransoms.
Anastasia Ivanov	Posted - 2010.01.28 16:04:00 - [99] Originally by: Greygal I've only been playing Eve for about 7 months, and sure, I've made a lot of newbie mistakes.... ~ ~ ~ Okay, I'm done whining/venting :) Greygal Stacy's Rule #1. Never leave station with something that you cannot afford to lose.. including your ship, fittings, cargo, and implants. Stacy's Rule #2. After remembering Rule 1, Never pay a ransom, as there is a good chance that you will willingly loose that money in addition to your ship loss. All you are doing by paying ransom is giving your aggressor a bonus quest reward. Stacy's Rule #3. After remembering Rule 1, Never offer tears to your aggressor.. they need them to survive. If you deny them this essence in all chat panels, only the truly obsessed ones will waste much more time on you. Turn your anger into a sadistic form of silent gratification that you just wasted their time and money... whether they would admit it or not. Stacy's Rule #4. After remembering Rule 1, Set your personal/corp standings to clearly indicate when known grief corp members are around. Use this to your advantage when the opportunity presents itself (and it will). "Oh no.. someone who pirated me at some point is over there in a heated (LOW/NULsec!) battle.. looks like a well matched fight. I guess I can fix that." Occasions like this are real gems, as generally those who prey on weaker players don't often open themselves up to challenging fights. Stacy's Rule #5. After remembering Rule 1, You must have absolutely no problem destroying your own wrecks in missions should a salvage thief show up. Be silently merciless in your denial of tears and salvage targets. Again, only the truly obsessive will stick around wasting time for no reward.
Bonafyde Tarnak inc. The Kadeshi	Posted - 2010.01.28 16:35:00 - [100] Oh yea in on this lame thread about an OP that has too much time on his hands. He should be finding some kleenex to soak of the tears. Honestly man grow a pair and deal with it, posting on C&P will bring the flames to your lameness. __________

Bonafyde Tarnak inc. The Kadeshi	Posted - 2010.01.28 16:42:00 - [101] Originally by: Anastasia Ivanov Edited by: Anastasia Ivanov on 28/01/2010 16:08:42 Edited by: Anastasia Ivanov on 28/01/2010 16:07:50 Edited by: Anastasia Ivanov on 28/01/2010 16:07:16 Originally by: Greygal I've only been playing Eve for about 7 months, and sure, I've made a lot of newbie mistakes.... ~ ~ ~ Okay, I'm done whining/venting :) Greygal Stacy's Rule #1. Never leave station with something that you cannot afford to lose.. including your ship, fittings, cargo, and implants. Stacy's Rule #2. After remembering Rule 1, Never pay a ransom, as there is a good chance that you will willingly loose that money in addition to your ship loss. All you are doing by paying ransom is giving your aggressor a bonus quest reward. Stacy's Rule #3. After remembering Rule 1, Never offer tears to your aggressor.. they need them to survive. If you deny them this essence in all chat panels, only the truly obsessed ones will waste much more time on you. Turn your anger into a sadistic form of silent gratification that you just wasted their time and money... whether they would admit it or not. Stacy's Rule #4. After remembering Rule 1, Set your personal/corp standings to clearly indicate when known grief corp members are around. Use this to your advantage when the opportunity presents itself (and it will). "Oh no.. someone who pirated me at some point is over there in a heated (LOW/NULsec!) battle.. looks like a well matched fight. I guess I can fix that." Occasions like this are real gems, as generally those who prey on weaker players don't often open themselves up to challenging fights. Stacy's Rule #5. After remembering Rule 1, You must have absolutely no problem destroying your own wrecks in missions should a salvage thief show up. Be silently merciless in your denial of tears and salvage targets. Again, only the truly obsessive will stick around wasting time for little to no reward. Addendum- It is not unheard of that those falling under the "truly obsessive" classification may actually have a logically justifiable reason for their actions.. not all victims are innocent. If you did something to screw them over in the past, they may be persistent. Addendum 2- If you are being ninja salvaged by a group, you might just be screwed. ^^ This is priceless __________
Andrea Griffin	Posted - 2010.01.28 16:51:00 - [102] Originally by: Grunanca Its bad apples like him that makes other pirates have to find alternative ways of getting isk. In my past ten ransom attempts, only one person has paid. So, I stopped bothering altogether. My ransom demands are regularly on the low end, too.
OwMy Bawls	Posted - 2010.01.28 17:10:00 - [103] Originally by: Malephar Don't knock the pirate that dishonours the ransom any more than one who honours it, however. Sure, you might be left feeling like you got lucky if you pay a ransom and are released, and think better of the pirate who honoured it, but remember that both are in business to make profit, and both are essentially being bastards to you. That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard. A pirate with honor is always a better person than the pirate without honor.
Miraqelle	Posted - 2010.01.28 17:30:00 - [104] i'm a little confused. when did holding a person hostage for ransom become an honorable thing?
sukmanobov Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.28 17:52:00 - [105] Edited by: sukmanobov on 28/01/2010 17:53:35 Originally by: Greygal but I never thought paying ransom was a mistake before. HA HA HA HA. I rather die trying than pay. --------------------------------
PowerComm3000 Inroads	Posted - 2010.01.28 18:00:00 - [106] Oo how did i miss this thread. I approve of the op's tear inducing tactics. Must keep thread alive since the posting of tears keeps me going.
Daniel Cordova	Posted - 2010.01.28 18:48:00 - [107] Originally by: PowerComm3000 Oo how did i miss this thread. I approve of the op's tear inducing tactics. Must keep thread alive since the posting of tears keeps me going. This thread needs to stay alive if for no other purpose than to discourage players from paying ransoms. Carebears cry now. Gankers cry later when they're having to carebear it up to make isk to PVP. And believe me, gankers will cry. They always do. I'd dare say they cry more than carebears even.
PowerComm3000 Inroads	Posted - 2010.01.28 19:56:00 - [108] Originally by: Daniel Cordova Originally by: PowerComm3000 Oo how did i miss this thread. I approve of the op's tear inducing tactics. Must keep thread alive since the posting of tears keeps me going. This thread needs to stay alive if for no other purpose than to discourage players from paying ransoms. Carebears cry now. Gankers cry later when they're having to carebear it up to make isk to PVP. And believe me, gankers will cry. They always do. I'd dare say they cry more than carebears even. You can keep 100 posts active and even sticky them, they still will pay and end up here posting omgpiwateshavenohonor tears. Goon posts are a perfect example of this.
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.01.28 21:36:00 - [109] Dishonoring ransom is bad for business mkay? Don't do it.
Kybernis Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2010.01.29 02:19:00 - [110] How did pirates get the opportunity to ransom you in 0.5 space?

Pater Peccavi Minmatar The Bastards	Posted - 2010.01.29 02:54:00 - [111] Originally by: Greygal So very very true :) They are both being bastards No, if they were being Bastards, they would honor the ransoms. _________
Daniel Cordova	Posted - 2010.01.29 03:01:00 - [112] Originally by: PowerComm3000 Originally by: Daniel Cordova Originally by: PowerComm3000 Oo how did i miss this thread. I approve of the op's tear inducing tactics. Must keep thread alive since the posting of tears keeps me going. This thread needs to stay alive if for no other purpose than to discourage players from paying ransoms. Carebears cry now. Gankers cry later when they're having to carebear it up to make isk to PVP. And believe me, gankers will cry. They always do. I'd dare say they cry more than carebears even. You can keep 100 posts active and even sticky them, they still will pay and end up here posting omgpiwateshavenohonor tears. Goon posts are a perfect example of this. Well then, there is no problems with ransom. People are paying up and everything is hunky dory. Pirates complaining about people not paying ransom are making it up then.
Feng Schui Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.01.29 03:59:00 - [113] I like it when you ransom someone, they pay the ransom, and also hire you to kill someone Project:Gank Pilgrim Guide
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.04.20 06:02:00 - [114] Originally by: IvyRose Im the current CEO of Black Marsh and id like to correct your post we are not all RL friends or alts of Carvin so get your facts straight. Second of all if you kept up on anything youd see that alot of those names are now in 0.0 corporations. Thank you and for future reference if you have an issue get your facts straight. Have a wonderful day. Have a wonderful day yourself ♥
Baillif Red Mist Inc.	Posted - 2010.04.20 06:23:00 - [115] Originally by: Gladys Pank Originally by: IvyRose Im the current CEO of Black Marsh and id like to correct your post we are not all RL friends or alts of Carvin so get your facts straight. Second of all if you kept up on anything youd see that alot of those names are now in 0.0 corporations. Thank you and for future reference if you have an issue get your facts straight. Have a wonderful day. Have a wonderful day yourself ♥ Confirming Spanky Spank practices voodoo and is raising the dead
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.04.20 07:15:00 - [116] Originally by: Baillif Originally by: Gladys Pank Originally by: IvyRose Im the current CEO of Black Marsh and id like to correct your post we are not all RL friends or alts of Carvin so get your facts straight. Second of all if you kept up on anything youd see that alot of those names are now in 0.0 corporations. Thank you and for future reference if you have an issue get your facts straight. Have a wonderful day. Have a wonderful day yourself ♥ Confirming Spanky Spank practices voodoo and is raising the dead I just sold her a Thrasher for 700m, my bad. ~_~
Nisstyree Chimera Raiders MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2010.04.20 07:54:00 - [117] Edited by: Nisstyree on 20/04/2010 07:55:09 I will usually avoid even taking position in these kind of threads simply because ultimately they are futile and have no impact on the various pirates nor carebears. Honoring ransoms is not applied by everyone as can be expected in a diverse universe with thousands of individuals such as EVE. Everyone is entitled to "their" view of what piracy is about to the point that some ppl will define highsec griefers and/or canflipers as pirates, although I personally don't consider them pirates. Piracy is about making profit while doing something you enjoy (blowing stuff up). In my own experience, being part of a pirate corporation/alliance that honors ransoms makes things easier within the corp since the members can develop a certain degreee of trust in each other. This translates in having no corp thieves and making things easy when splitting up the revenues from loot/ransoms. The fact is that if I don't live up to my word towards others then what's stopping me from tricking my own guys? In the end all you have to show in this game to be part of a growing social network is your degree of success (sadly not competence) and your reputation. To all the preachers of the "Do not pay ransoms to grief the pirates" approach: Whether the victim pays the ransom or not, doesn't really have any impact on the morale of the pirates involved, since one way or the other we make profit anyway; be it in liquid ISK or in modules off your wrecks. Some victims seem to forget that their loss of XXX value may be a big deal to them and leave deep scars in their memories, but to the pirate it's only kill number XXXX of the day. The only thing mildly annoying is when the target manages to self-destruct without us noticing, for no other reason other than it meaning we (the pirates) messed up. So in conclusion the best advice I can give you Greygal is: Learn from your mistakes and harden the f**k up. Getting ransomed 7 times ain't anything to be proud of yet alone coming on C&P whining about it in hopes that some white knight of righteous glory do something about it. My 2 cents
takedoom	Posted - 2010.04.20 08:25:00 - [118] Pirates who do not honor ransoms are bad pirates.
Artemis Roe	Posted - 2010.04.20 10:01:00 - [119] I usually fly with the idea that noone will ever honor a ransom.. cause my friends certainly dont. seeing someone pay out 200 mil for a ship and then get podded is enough to keep me from ever paying a ransom. Even better are POS ransoms, can sometimes milk a bil or more from corps and then nab their stuff anyways. overall, eve is played by mean mean people. remember this and you should never find yourself with your pants down, or atleast if they are down, you wont be so suprised when someone gleefully "steps up to the plate"
Artemis Roe	Posted - 2010.04.20 10:11:00 - [120] Originally by: OwMy Bawls Originally by: Malephar Don't knock the pirate that dishonours the ransom any more than one who honours it, however. Sure, you might be left feeling like you got lucky if you pay a ransom and are released, and think better of the pirate who honoured it, but remember that both are in business to make profit, and both are essentially being bastards to you. That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard. A pirate with honor is always a better person than the pirate without honor. But the pirate without honor has the loots AND a killmail

Lavraen Minmatar Remembrance Inc.	Posted - 2010.04.20 10:21:00 - [121] Edited by: Lavraen on 20/04/2010 10:23:20 /Posting in an e-honour thread Oh wait /Posting in a necro post Oh wait /Posting in an e-honour necro post
My whinehouse Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2010.04.20 12:46:00 - [122] excuse me this long way to show my opinion bout that pirate: Originally by: Greygal I've only been playing Eve for about 7 months, and sure, I've made a lot of newbie mistakes... a lot! - but I never thought paying ransom was a mistake before. I've been caught by pirates six times and every time I've been offered a ransom to pay in order to release my ship (or in one case, not destroy my pod). Each time I paid, and each time, the ransom was honored, I went on my tail-tucked, sheepish way, limping to safety. Until today. Make a really stupid and silly long story short: I was web scrammed by Lord Carvin of [ID10T], he got into my hull, and then he offered me a $25 million isk ransom. I withdrew my drones, I shut down my turrets, and I paid the $25 million isk ransom. He stopped firing for a bit, but he didn't release the warp scram. I could not get away. He started firing on me again, and destroyed my Myrm. Spamming the warp-to-zero button, I did get my pod to safety. Look, I know Lord Carvin is a pirate, and a very experienced player. I know pirating is part of Eve, and despite the annoyance of it all, I don't really mind it that much - it does add a bit of flair and excitement to the game! I expect pirates to gank, can flip, and generally wreak havoc on the universe. That's expected. What's not expected is a pirate, especially one of several years experience like Lord Carvin, to have no honor. From everything I've read and heard and learned in my short time in Eve, destroying a player's ship after they've paid the ransom is not honorable pirate behavior. Yes, I know it sounds crazy, but I do expect pirates to have a certain amount of honor, even though they are pirates! Even in the crazy sandbox of Eve, there are some few givens, some few unwritten "rules" ... ya, I'm probably insane... Anyway, I guess paying 7 ransoms and having 6 of them honored is really not bad, statistically, but I will very much hesitate to pay a ransom to any pirate again in the future. Okay, I'm done whining/venting :) Greygal Originally by: Greygal ... Until today. Make a really stupid and silly long story short: I was web scrammed by Lord Carvin of [ID10T], he got into my hull, and then he offered me a $25 million isk ransom. ... Originally by: Greygal ... Lord Carvin of [ID10T] ... Originally by: Greygal ...[ID10T]...
Raetherana	Posted - 2010.04.20 14:39:00 - [123] Next time, bring a cyno on your ship and light it if all else fails. He might de-agress and warp away and if your epic torch of +9000 capitals doesn't fool him, well at least you tried :)
species2143	Posted - 2010.04.20 14:46:00 - [124] Originally by: Raetherana Next time, bring a cyno on your ship and light it if all else fails. He might de-agress and warp away and if your epic torch of +9000 capitals doesn't fool him, well at least you tried :) Guess what's the first thing you do when you spot a cyno ship you can quickly kill? Oh and lighting a cyno inside a mission would probably make the pirate lose the point cuz he's laughing so hard... Srly there should be a **** advise award on the forums... CSM make yourself useful for once, Oh wait...
Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2010.04.20 15:41:00 - [125] Originally by: species2143 Guess what's the first thing you do when you spot a cyno ship you can quickly kill? Oh and lighting a cyno inside a mission would probably make the pirate lose the point cuz he's laughing so hard... I doubt he was inside a misson. Can't really try and and ransom in high-sec (at least not solo), as you wouldn't even have time to negotiate a ransom when you allegedly already got him in hull: concord would kill you first. You can gank, and have a buddy pick up the pieces, that's all. -- Gorgeous, delicious, deculture!
species2143	Posted - 2010.04.20 17:42:00 - [126] Nor do cynos work in highsec for that matter
Jenny Twotone Capsuleers of Doom	Posted - 2010.04.20 17:58:00 - [127] Originally by: Gladys Pank Originally by: IvyRose Im the current CEO of Black Marsh and id like to correct your post we are not all RL friends or alts of Carvin so get your facts straight. Second of all if you kept up on anything youd see that alot of those names are now in 0.0 corporations. Thank you and for future reference if you have an issue get your facts straight. Have a wonderful day. Have a wonderful day yourself ♥ You're a worthless piece of trash. Living your life on the forums. What I find really amazing is how you've fooled so many people into believing you're actually worth a crap. You aren't. I know why you necroed this thread, and it shows how much of a slug you are. It's Pathetic Spank, seriously, you have better things to do. I don't really care who you scam out of what, Fiscal Darwinism for the win. But you posted here to rub it in her face. You are capitalizing on the fact you know she is in a bad place in real life, depresed, and bringing it into the game to make yourself...what? Look smart, clever? All you people who thing Spank is just the greatest thing, I feel sorry for you.
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.20 18:05:00 - [128] Originally by: Jenny Twotone It's Pathetic Spank, seriously, you have better things to do. No he doesn't
Jimer Lins Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.04.20 18:07:00 - [129] Originally by: Jenny Twotone WHAARGARBL Wow, you're quite angry. Blog and Podcast - Twitter: DeclareWar
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.04.20 18:23:00 - [130] Originally by: Jenny Twotone Originally by: Gladys Pank Originally by: IvyRose Im the current CEO of Black Marsh and id like to correct your post we are not all RL friends or alts of Carvin so get your facts straight. Second of all if you kept up on anything youd see that alot of those names are now in 0.0 corporations. Thank you and for future reference if you have an issue get your facts straight. Have a wonderful day. Have a wonderful day yourself ♥ You're a worthless piece of trash. Living your life on the forums. What I find really amazing is how you've fooled so many people into believing you're actually worth a crap. You aren't. I know why you necroed this thread, and it shows how much of a slug you are. It's Pathetic Spank, seriously, you have better things to do. I don't really care who you scam out of what, Fiscal Darwinism for the win. But you posted here to rub it in her face. You are capitalizing on the fact you know she is in a bad place in real life, depresed, and bringing it into the game to make yourself...what? Look smart, clever? All you people who thing Spank is just the greatest thing, I feel sorry for you. Uh, I didn't know anything about her real life situation when I posted here. I think you need to draw a line between real life and internet spaceships. ~_~

Admiral Pelleon White Shadow Imperium Z.E.R.G	Posted - 2010.04.20 18:23:00 - [131] Originally by: Jenny Twotone Originally by: Gladys Pank Originally by: IvyRose Im the current CEO of Black Marsh and id like to correct your post we are not all RL friends or alts of Carvin so get your facts straight. Second of all if you kept up on anything youd see that alot of those names are now in 0.0 corporations. Thank you and for future reference if you have an issue get your facts straight. Have a wonderful day. Have a wonderful day yourself ♥ You're a worthless piece of trash. Living your life on the forums. What I find really amazing is how you've fooled so many people into believing you're actually worth a crap. You aren't. I know why you necroed this thread, and it shows how much of a slug you are. It's Pathetic Spank, seriously, you have better things to do. I don't really care who you scam out of what, Fiscal Darwinism for the win. But you posted here to rub it in her face. You are capitalizing on the fact you know she is in a bad place in real life, depresed, and bringing it into the game to make yourself...what? Look smart, clever? All you people who thing Spank is just the greatest thing, I feel sorry for you. You seem pretty mad. ________
Jenny Twotone Capsuleers of Doom	Posted - 2010.04.20 18:25:00 - [132] Edited by: Jenny Twotone on 20/04/2010 18:30:36 I contend that you found out about her depression and insomnia after the fact. I also contend that you targeted her because of her sex. I talked to the people you asked about her. You used this information and went straight to the forums in an attempt to make it worse, clasping your hands in glee, hoping you could make someone who was already in a bad place in real life, even worse. That's what I find so offensive. We've all been scammed one way or another, no one cares. Being a sore loser is one thing, but a sore winner? You're a pathetic misogynist. On a side note the OP has refused to log in in over 5 months. I found out who he was and had teh war decs ready, but he has yet to log in since last November. This thread is DEAD.
species2143	Posted - 2010.04.20 18:29:00 - [133] Originally by: Jenny Twotone No. NO YOU!
Erichk Knaar Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.04.20 18:34:00 - [134] What the hell?
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.04.20 18:35:00 - [135] Uh, misogynist? I looked up the history of someone who bought a 700m isk destroyer, concluded they were a forum smacktalker and thus posted as I did. The rest of it is slanderous nonsense. Nice way to overreact. ~_~
Evil MailLady Child Clown Rental	Posted - 2010.04.20 18:36:00 - [136] Originally by: Jenny Twotone pathetic misogynist. This thread is DEAD.
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.20 18:41:00 - [137] Originally by: Jenny Twotone MY PARENTS ARE DEEEEEEEAD.
Jimer Lins Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.04.20 18:42:00 - [138] Originally by: Erichk Knaar What the hell? I know, right? Blog and Podcast - Twitter: DeclareWar
Ekon Bor Amarr Van Diemen's Demise Chaos Theory Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.20 20:10:00 - [139] Posting to confirm I rarely do a background check to confirm the gender and mental health history of the people whose posts I respond to and this clearly makes me a bad person. I promise that in future I'll... a crap, done it again. Look, Jenny, if you're a transgender person suffering from bi-polar, or possibly a post-op with abandonment issues, and I've accidentally targeted you, then I'm really, really sorry, ok.. I need to start doing my research in case I find myself being a misogynist, or a homophobe, or a gerontophobe by mistake (although that one is probably fair enough - old people do smell funny).
Evil MailLady Child Clown Rental	Posted - 2010.04.20 20:28:00 - [140] Originally by: Jenny Twotone Edited by: Jenny Twotone on 20/04/2010 18:30:36 The OP has refused to log in over 5 months. I found out who he was and had the war decs ready, but he has yet to log in since last November. This thread is DEAD.

Zions Child Caldari Carthage Industries	Posted - 2010.04.20 20:42:00 - [141] Originally by: Jenny Twotone WHINE MIXED WITH PERSONAL ATTACK You fail, Ms. Twotone Also, I hereby send this thread BACK TO THE ABYSS OF PAGE 2!!! === Originally by: CCP Shadow This thread has been emasculated. click Originally by: CCP Shadow snip Castration successful. Shadow.
Evil MailLady Child Clown Rental	Posted - 2010.04.20 20:47:00 - [142] Edited by: Evil MailLady on 20/04/2010 20:46:54 Originally by: Jenny Twotone Edited by: Jenny Twotone on 20/04/2010 18:30:36 I contend that you found out about her depression and insomnia after the fact. I also contend that you targeted her because of her sex. I stand by her statement. Methinks you doth protest too much. And allow me to stay on topic by saying : This thread was dead 5 months ago. They don't play Eve anymore.
Owen Drakkar Terra Nostra	Posted - 2010.04.20 20:48:00 - [143] Originally by: Zions Child Originally by: Jenny Twotone WHINE MIXED WITH PERSONAL ATTACK You fail, Ms. Twotone Also, I hereby send this thread BACK TO THE ABYSS OF PAGE 2!!! I think you did it wrong, oh shi-
Jenny Twotone Capsuleers of Doom	Posted - 2010.04.20 20:58:00 - [144] Originally by: Jenny Twotone the OP has refused to log in in over 5 months. I found out who he was and had teh war decs ready, but he has yet to log in since last November. This thread is DEAD. It sucks when someone owns the moral high ground and refuses to step into the gutter doesn't it? Have fun down there in the muck.
Jimer Lins Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.04.20 21:10:00 - [145] Originally by: Jenny Twotone Originally by: Jenny Twotone the OP has refused to log in in over 5 months. I found out who he was and had teh war decs ready, but he has yet to log in since last November. This thread is DEAD. It sucks when someone owns the moral high ground and refuses to step into the gutter doesn't it? Have fun down there in the muck. Uh-oh. Busted! Blog and Podcast - Twitter: DeclareWar
Ekon Bor Amarr Van Diemen's Demise Chaos Theory Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.20 22:14:00 - [146] Originally by: Jenny Twotone Originally by: Jenny Twotone the OP has refused to log in in over 5 months. I found out who he was and had teh war decs ready, but he has yet to log in since last November. This thread is DEAD. It sucks when someone owns the moral high ground and refuses to step into the gutter doesn't it? Have fun down there in the muck. I'm confused. You make an unsupported assertion as to someone's character, without supplying any evidence, and as a result, claim the moral high ground? That's the sort of thing only a psychopath who burns down orphanages for homeless labrador puppies would do, and I'll hear no arguments to the contrary. You're clearly evil.
Nyah Nyah	Posted - 2010.04.20 22:24:00 - [147] Jenny, wtf are you talking about? Who are you or anyone else from your sad little crowd to claim the moral high ground? You and all the other dregs in the list earlier in this thread are famous for can flipping and other kinds of stupidity and pettiness. I know that all of you are RL friends of carvin, which is how you know what you know. Thank you for proving Ivy is a liar in the quote that brought this thread back to life.
Baillif Red Mist Inc.	Posted - 2010.04.20 23:07:00 - [148] This thread's second life was a hell of a lot more popcorn worthy than its first
species2143	Posted - 2010.04.20 23:23:00 - [149] Originally by: Baillif This thread's second life was a hell of a lot more popcorn worthy than its first Word
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.04.20 23:23:00 - [150] Originally by: Nyah Nyah Jenny, wtf are you talking about? Who are you or anyone else from your sad little crowd to claim the moral high ground? You and all the other dregs in the list earlier in this thread are famous for can flipping and other kinds of stupidity and pettiness. I know that all of you are RL friends of carvin, which is how you know what you know. Thank you for proving Ivy is a liar in the quote that brought this thread back to life. All respect to Ivy tbh, she was a good sport. Most people are very rude when they slip up. I should have convo'd you before posting in this thread. Jenny on the other hand, good lord calm down. ~_~

Jenny Twotone Capsuleers of Doom	Posted - 2010.04.20 23:40:00 - [151] Originally by: Nyah Nyah Jenny, wtf are you talking about? Who are you or anyone else from your sad little crowd to claim the moral high ground? You and all the other dregs in the list earlier in this thread are famous for can flipping and other kinds of stupidity and pettiness. I know that all of you are RL friends of carvin, which is how you know what you know. Thank you for proving Ivy is a liar in the quote that brought this thread back to life. Hey, (We fly Cruisers, Tennebrosa) go back to playing WOW. Proof or STFU. If you can find one single instance of me flipping a can, or mission griefing, or ninja salvaging, I will pay you a billion isk per instance. A billion per. Put your money where your mouth is, or post with the main you never play anymore.
cBOLTSON Caldari Shadow Legion. Talos Coalition	Posted - 2010.04.21 01:01:00 - [152] Edited by: cBOLTSON on 21/04/2010 01:03:42 lmao. Sorry to hear about your loss. And yes most pirates I have met (including myself a while back) WILL honour ransoms. However mate my best peice of advice for you is to tell them to **** off and let them kill you. Remember they get at most your cargo out of you, otherwise they get nothing. EDIT: It seems this thread has been 'dead' a while. Anyone else care to tell about ebil piewates not honouring ransoms? muhaha!
HeliosGal Caldari	Posted - 2010.04.21 01:14:00 - [153] hire a merc out fit to go after him if u like Signature - CCP what this game needs is more variance in PVE aspects and a little bit less PVP focus, more content more varied level 1-4 missions more than just 10 per faction high sec low sec and 00
Baillif Red Mist Inc.	Posted - 2010.04.21 04:54:00 - [154] I love how people still respond to this thread thinking it is still about the original topic and not for what it really is, a Lady Spank inspired necro drama bomb.
Zions Child Caldari Carthage Industries	Posted - 2010.04.21 05:00:00 - [155] Originally by: Baillif I love how people still respond to this thread thinking it is still about the original topic and not for what it really is, a Lady Spank inspired necro drama bomb. Seems like Lady Spank is a dons shades Drama Terrorist! YEEEEAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Originally by: CCP Shadow snip Castration successful. Shadow. http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2010.04.21 05:11:00 - [156] THIS IS A TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE!
Zeta Zhul	Posted - 2010.04.21 12:23:00 - [157] Originally by: Lana Torrin THIS IS A TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE! Probably better than a Transvestite of Justice, even if a bit less unexpected.
Nyah Nyah	Posted - 2010.04.21 14:44:00 - [158] Originally by: Jenny Twotone Proof or STFU. If you can find one single instance of me flipping a can, or mission griefing, or ninja salvaging, I will pay you a billion isk per instance. A billion per. Pay up or Shut up Originally by: Jenny Twotone Put your money where your mouth is, or post with the main you never play anymore. I dont do can flipping, noob baiting, or asshattery, so for you I guess that means I am not playing anymore.
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.04.21 15:02:00 - [159] 1 billion for me too please This is p. suspicious too. I'll accept half a billion in this case, it's still leeching and poor play. ~_~
species2143	Posted - 2010.04.21 17:28:00 - [160] Originally by: Jenny Twotone Originally by: Nyah Nyah Jenny, wtf are you talking about? Who are you or anyone else from your sad little crowd to claim the moral high ground? You and all the other dregs in the list earlier in this thread are famous for can flipping and other kinds of stupidity and pettiness. I know that all of you are RL friends of carvin, which is how you know what you know. Thank you for proving Ivy is a liar in the quote that brought this thread back to life. Hey, (We fly Cruisers, Tennebrosa) go back to playing WOW. Proof or STFU. If you can find one single instance of me flipping a can, or mission griefing, or ninja salvaging, I will pay you a billion isk per instance. A billion per. Put your money where your mouth is, or post with the main you never play anymore. Confirming that you have royally flipped my cans by reading this thread

lollerwaffle Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE	Posted - 2010.04.21 19:50:00 - [161] Originally by: Baillif This thread's second life was a hell of a lot more popcorn worthy than its first /agree Originally by: salva dore Cloak should not be AFK solution. What do you think? Originally by: AFK Cloaker
Nyah Nyah	Posted - 2010.04.21 23:25:00 - [162] No iskies yet? Let me guess. You dont honor your word? At least your sticking with the theme.
Jenny Twotone Filthy Bogarts	Posted - 2010.04.22 00:32:00 - [163] Originally by: Nyah Nyah Originally by: Jenny Twotone Proof or STFU. If you can find one single instance of me flipping a can, or mission griefing, or ninja salvaging, I will pay you a billion isk per instance. A billion per. Pay up or Shut up Originally by: Jenny Twotone Put your money where your mouth is, or post with the main you never play anymore. I dont do can flipping, noob baiting, or asshattery, so for you I guess that means I am not playing anymore. No, you never log in, haven't since last November, when lord Carvin and his crew killed you and your friends. You see, I never ran with them at all really, I preferred to keep those guys at arm's length for obvious reasons, but yeah I liked them, because they treated me with decency and respect. But since I never assisted them, you can't find anything. Killing war targets during war time....You think I'm going to pay you for that? lol Find something real, and good luck, cause you won't ever.
Nyah Nyah	Posted - 2010.04.22 02:41:00 - [164] Edited by: Nyah Nyah on 22/04/2010 02:44:49 Sorry. You got the wrong alt. I am willdieinabout24hrs. The one who posted the list. You said proof and you will pay. Proof provided. Pay up. Character is and always has been in npc corp. No Concord kill for you or your crew. So you drew agression.
dereekb	Posted - 2010.04.22 05:56:00 - [165] Edited by: dereekb on 22/04/2010 05:57:08 Originally by: Nyah Nyah Edited by: Nyah Nyah on 22/04/2010 02:44:49 Proof provided. Pay up. Character is and always has been in npc corp. No Concord kill for you or your crew. So you drew agression. The lack of a mail showing those three Brutix's dying is because no one posts ships killed by Concord... (Unless another player shoots at them and gets the Killmail) Also it was an obvious suicide gank, which doesn't fall under "can flipping"/"Ninja salvaging"/"Mission griefing"... As for Spank's claims, that CNR kill landed on a pretty eventful day with slight E-drama behind it, but however it wasn't in the Mission griefing part either, and the medium railgun battery alone should tell you that. Dom't know about Frisky Dingle's death TBH though, but since Concord was involved and station turrets, it happened around a station and probably the end result of some Moon 20 Dodixie fun... I don't think Twotone cares about her Internet Honor to pay anyone a bil per "offence" anyways.
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.04.22 09:34:00 - [166] Originally by: dereekb I don't think Twotone cares about her Internet Honor to pay anyone a bil per "offence" anyways. She seemed on her high horse about integrity though. Clearly that was a load of crap. Utterly pathetic ~_~
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2010.04.22 12:41:00 - [167] Originally by: Lady Spank Originally by: dereekb I don't think Twotone cares about her Internet Honor to pay anyone a bil per "offence" anyways. She seemed on her high horse about integrity though. Clearly that was a load of crap. Utterly pathetic There's that word again.. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Makin' Bacon	Posted - 2010.04.22 12:48:00 - [168] Originally by: Zions Child Edited by: Zions Child on 21/04/2010 05:32:11 Originally by: Baillif I love how people still respond to this thread thinking it is still about the original topic and not for what it really is, a Lady Spank inspired necro drama bomb. Seems like Lady Spank is a dons shades Dramanatrix! YEEEEAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Edit: I had to make t3h pun better... This is the result of making it better? Dear god, I would hate to see how bad it was before.
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.04.22 12:49:00 - [169] Originally by: Lana Torrin There's that word again.. I do not think it means what you think it means. That's because you are an idiot. ~_~
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2010.04.22 12:50:00 - [170] Originally by: Lady Spank Originally by: Lana Torrin There's that word again.. I do not think it means what you think it means. That's because you are an idiot. Oh please tell me you know where that is from.. I'm not that old am I?!

Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.04.22 13:06:00 - [171] Edited by: Lady Spank on 22/04/2010 13:06:16 I know where it's from. It's also already been quoted about 20 times on these forums as a retort. It tend's to work better when it's appropriate. ~_~
Jenny Twotone Filthy Bogarts	Posted - 2010.04.22 14:02:00 - [172] If you get in a basilisk, and remote rep my war targets, smack talk in local for 2 hours and brag about how no one can hurt you when you undock in your hulk and start macro-mining for your REPO bosses. You might be a valid war target.
Nyah Nyah	Posted - 2010.04.22 14:38:00 - [173] Originally by: dereekb Also it was an obvious suicide gank, which doesn't fall under "can flipping"/"Ninja salvaging"/"Mission griefing"... If it was so obvious, why did she say it was a war target? FAIL Oh wait, theres more. NOW it was a macro. We all know how macro miners smack talk in local. After remote repping in a basilisk? What? I didnt know there was such a thing as macro repping. If suicide ganking doesnt count as asshattery, I dont know what does. Thats okay though, we all know Jenny is a worthless liar.
Jenny Twotone Filthy Bogarts	Posted - 2010.04.22 15:15:00 - [174] Must suck to get shot down at every turn. Try again.
Tex Rodgers Amarr Black Marsh X	Posted - 2010.04.22 15:24:00 - [175] If you're so convinced shes so bad and evil and did all these turrible things, war dec her... It seems you have trouble posting with your main, which tells me you're pretty scared of her. You have good reason to be, you've gone to great lengths to smear her character with false accusations. Jenny has proven to me beyond any doubt of her integrity and value as a player, and as a person. I treat her with decency and respect and she returns it in heaps. For the year she spent in trader's academy she taught literally thousands of new players how to survive in Eve. Now those players occupy all aspects of game life, from carebear industrialists, to savage 0.0 pvpers. You pulled her name out of a random hat and now you want to personally attack her, and as far as I can see you don't have anything. She never even did anything to you. Way to lash out. +++ My Videos: 1 2 3
Nyah Nyah	Posted - 2010.04.22 15:33:00 - [176] Originally by: Jenny Twotone Must suck to get shot down at every turn. Try again. What does that mean? Shot down? From what? My perch on the high moral ground? The only way off the high moral ground is to step off. Like you stepped off it. You dragged into C&P and the public eye what appears to be an emotionally vulnerable person who is possibly grieving over the loss of another human being. If you objected so strongly to the actions of spank, you could have messaged spank directly. But no, you outed your 'friend' and her condition on C&P. C&P? Does that seem like a good idea? Does that seem respectful and honorable? No. Your personal desire to have a slap fight with spank (really, what was the point, its spank) was more important to you than Ivy's privacy. Congratulations on being not only an asshat, but truly vile. The rest of us are playing a game. You're the only one dragging RL into it. If you gave a crap about her, you wouldn't have used her this way.
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.04.22 15:33:00 - [177] Originally by: Tex Rodgers decency and respect personally attack Way to lash out These were my thoughts when she started spouting lies about something that wasn't her business ~_~
Jenny Twotone Filthy Bogarts	Posted - 2010.04.22 15:47:00 - [178] You guys are really sad. Spank posted in here to assault a person she had scammed in game after she had farmed some real life info about her from people who knew her in game. Whoever you are, just post with your main, or settle it in game.
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.04.22 15:57:00 - [179] Originally by: Jenny Twotone You guys are really sad. Spank posted in here to assault a person she had scammed in game after she had farmed some real life info about her from people who knew her in game. Whoever you are, just post with your main, or settle it in game. See this is the problem, you are delusional. ~_~
Nyah Nyah	Posted - 2010.04.22 16:00:00 - [180] Originally by: Jenny Twotone You guys are really sad. Spank posted in here to assault a person she had scammed in game after she had farmed some real life info about her from people who knew her in game. Whoever you are, just post with your main, or settle it in game. I love your posting style. A troll after my own heart. Flame. Deny. Never address your own points. NONE of us would know anything about this if you hadnt brought it up. Looking at spanks first comment, there are no references to her personal life. Just have a nice day. Nice try to cover up what you know you shouldnt have said. btw, jenny's alt from Black Marsh X, you're one of a crew of asshatters. Why does anything you say matter? Your just as bad as her. Wait you are her. In fact Jenny is also an alt. So why dont you come out with your main Jenny? Spanks not the only one who can farm information. Thats why Jenny has so few kills. Shes the backup.

Jenny Twotone Filthy Bogarts	Posted - 2010.04.22 16:00:00 - [181] Originally by: Jenny Twotone settle it in game. Looking forward to it. UPDATE! Lord Carvin ransomed me but shot me anyway. boo hoo.
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.04.22 16:07:00 - [182] Originally by: Jenny Twotone Originally by: Jenny Twotone settle it in game. Looking forward to it. UPDATE! Lord Carvin ransomed me but shot me anyway. boo hoo. Maybe you should have settled your non issue in game rather than lying and making a tit of yourself on the forums? ~_~
Jenny Twotone Filthy Bogarts	Posted - 2010.04.22 16:15:00 - [183] I stand by my statement. You found out your victim was female, and ran to the forums after talking to no less than 3 people in local about her. One of them was a corp member who was clueless about who you were. Maybe an in game eve mail would have been appropriate, as you suggested so much earlier you should have done to your victim. Yes, you should have sent her a gloating email in game, instead of coming to the forums to press your attack. I agree.
Yuki Sanada Caldari Aperture Harmonics K162	Posted - 2010.04.22 16:20:00 - [184] ITT: Spank gets trolled. 10/10
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.04.22 16:26:00 - [185] Originally by: Yuki Sanada ITT: Spank gets trolled. 10/10 ~_~
Nyah Nyah	Posted - 2010.04.22 16:30:00 - [186] finally got a chance between meetings to check out battleclinic again. looking at Filthy Bogarts' battleclinic stats, you guys kill mainly hulks. The victim I linked earlier was ganked the day before in his hauler. Please update your lie to account for this change in story. yeah filthy bogarts is definitely the alt corp. alt corp for who i wonder. Black Marsh X of course. Lord Carvin you crafty bastard. You been posting in here the whole time! so there you go OP and anyone else. now you know that carvin's alt is Jenny Twotone.
Jenny Twotone Filthy Bogarts	Posted - 2010.04.22 16:43:00 - [187] If you are remote repping my war targets, and hauling goods for them back and forth from the local trade hub(cause they cant do it safely), and supporting them by mining afk, and think I'm not going to stop you... You're high. Deny your enemy his support, his logistics. If he wont face you directly, attack him from the sides. It's pretty simple.
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.04.22 16:47:00 - [188] Filthy Bogards ~~have all the~~ is full of tools. ~_~
Jenny Twotone Filthy Bogarts	Posted - 2010.04.22 16:49:00 - [189] Some of them are pretty sharp too. it's good to have a toolset to deal with things like alts in npc corps assiting your targets. Isn't it?
Nyah Nyah	Posted - 2010.04.22 17:20:00 - [190] jenny, you are a terrible liar. So tell me about all the other hulk ganks on the bogarts list. All of them repping your war targets? Is Bogarts a target of the world wide macro miner conspiracy? Just one problem with your story. No wartargets are dead.

Jenny Twotone Filthy Bogarts	Posted - 2010.04.22 17:23:00 - [191] You are still hiding. Settle it in game. Show yourself.
Zions Child Caldari Carthage Industries	Posted - 2010.04.22 17:27:00 - [192] It's always nice to have popcorn worthy thread.... Needs more drama tbh, I mean its starting to slow down now... Originally by: CCP Shadow snip Castration successful. Shadow. http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/
Marko Riva Adamant Inc.	Posted - 2010.04.22 17:29:00 - [193] ----------- I think, therefore I'm single. Want to learn combat/PVP? Alliance creation service
Nyah Nyah	Posted - 2010.04.22 18:12:00 - [194] see? you arent going to ever answer. because you've been lying the whole time. go ahead, explain all the other suicide ganks on hulks. youre weak. its impossible to settle anything with you in game. your alts are spread out over so many corps. even jenny isnt your main. but that doesnt matter. you already helped me accomplish my goals. the first was to get the list posted and to get players going through killmails. its always good to out as many alts as you can. the second was to keep this thread title up and visible. but youre pretty stupid, so i guess you never caught on. thanks for drawing it out. i wonder how long i can keep you posting? or is that reverse troll psychology to get you to stop posting? i win this thread. trolled it twice with two characters. I trolled the troll who trolled the troll who was trolling the troll who trolled him. Ahhhh. Now STFU. See? Now i cant lose.
Jenny Twotone Filthy Bogarts	Posted - 2010.04.22 18:23:00 - [195] you lost a long time ago with faulty logic. I never flew with Lord Carvin regularly, think we flew once, maybe. And, everyone who knows me, knows this is who I am. And yet you refuse to show yourself. Furthermore I am not responsible for the actions of every player in eve, regardless of whether they are in my corp or not. I do not police every single system telling people what to do, and saving poor fools like you from paying ransoms. I'm really sorry you are still sore over getting your asses handed to you by lord Carvin, but I wasn't even there.
Nyah Nyah	Posted - 2010.04.22 19:24:00 - [196] score 1 more point for me. keep posting silly. keep that thread title up there. you still seem to think im the OP. not sure why.
Jenny Twotone Filthy Bogarts	Posted - 2010.04.22 19:29:00 - [197] No I know who you are. It's been almost 6 months since you lost, what ? 3-4 cruisers, maybe a battleship? In a few fights at some belts where I assume lord carvin or one of his associates can flipped you, and you and your team engaged them. SIX months. With that in mind let's put EVE aside for one moment while I sincerely say: Get over it, it's been 6 months since you lost those precious internet spaceships. You need to move on.
Baillif Red Mist Inc.	Posted - 2010.04.22 19:32:00 - [198] Originally by: Nyah Nyah score 1 more point for me. keep posting silly. keep that thread title up there. you still seem to think im the OP. not sure why. Might have something to do with all the lack of butthurt and high level of maturity you are showing...oh wait
Zions Child Caldari Carthage Industries	Posted - 2010.04.22 19:37:00 - [199] Originally by: Baillif maturity MATURITY?!? In MY EVE?!!? What the hell do you think this is? Nap-Time? These are SRS INTERN3T SHPAZZSHIPS! THIS IS SRS BZNS! EVE- Where 30 year old men throw 3 year old hissyfits. Originally by: CCP Shadow snip Castration successful. Shadow. http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/
Baillif Red Mist Inc.	Posted - 2010.04.22 19:57:00 - [200] My bad "maturity" was in epic sarcasm quotes

Nyah Nyah	Posted - 2010.04.22 21:07:00 - [201] lol. you keep right on with the bad deductions. if you had half a brain you would be using eve search. keep posting people. keep that thread title right where everyone can see it.
YOUR MA1N Minmatar future of humankind Wayfarer Stellar Initiative	Posted - 2010.04.22 21:45:00 - [202] An anagram of Jenny Twotone is No Joy Net Newt. I think this says it all. Stop being a no joy net newt Jenny.
Jenny Twotone Filthy Bogarts	Posted - 2010.04.22 22:29:00 - [203] Here is the killboard for the corp this wackjob is still so ****ed at : http://id10t.evekb.co.uk/ Notice the last kill dates on it. That's When he stopped playing eve. Maybe you should take a break as well.
Nyah Nyah	Posted - 2010.04.23 01:35:00 - [204] keep it up. you are quite possibly the dumbest person ive met in eve in quite some time.
Nyah Nyah	Posted - 2010.04.23 15:57:00 - [205] congrats. you made it more than 12 hours without answering. maybe your cognitive functions arent completely gone.
Jebediah Beane Pursuit of Power	Posted - 2010.04.23 18:24:00 - [206] This is epic. Bringing back an ancient thread for no reason.
Nyah Nyah	Posted - 2010.04.23 18:59:00 - [207] Hooray! More Black Marsh X/ID10TS alts posting! Keep that thread title up jeb
Evil MailLady Child Clown Rental	Posted - 2010.04.23 19:03:00 - [208] http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1211138/page/3 The tears are truly epic, as is the butthurt. You've been at this since last November 11th, accusing all sorts of people. Every time you post you reinforce the fact you're still upset, and crying into your blankie. It's kind of sweet I guess, after all this time. 10/10 and 3 cheers for Lord Carvin and his bunch, you have farmed an ocean of tears from this guy. I tip my hat to you sir.
Jebediah Beane Pursuit of Power	Posted - 2010.04.23 19:57:00 - [209] Originally by: Nyah Nyah Hooray! More Black Marsh X/ID10TS alts posting! Keep that thread title up jeb I'm not an alt. You can come after me anytime in game that you wish and I'll be happy to prove it.
Nyah Nyah	Posted - 2010.04.23 20:00:00 - [210] if you and jenny compare your posts, you will see that the dates don't match. that was my first information source though. the rest was battleclinic and a few bits of farmed information. keep posting. keep that thread title right at the top.

Jovialmadness	Posted - 2010.04.23 20:02:00 - [211] Edited by: Jovialmadness on 23/04/2010 20:04:46 The solution is simple. Here is what you do. Pirate...."25 mil and I let you go" you...."kiss my m...... F..... A.." that should pretty much show you how to handle them. Also. Most pirates can't take a good pvp'r out solo anyway as pirates are generally awful and looking for specific targets. This is not all of them though...I'll be fair. Practice sacrifice pvp hard and learn learn learn! Quote: As a side note, i liken capacitor to blood. Without blood, nothing can function in the body. I do NOT like being a race that bleeds quicker than anyone else. yes, i am an alt..Jovial Quote:
Jebediah Beane Pursuit of Power	Posted - 2010.04.23 20:03:00 - [212] Well if you checked battleclinic at all, you should have figured out by now that I am in fact not an alt. You should better check your sources next time. Keep recycling those forum troll characters. We all know you're terrified of all of us.
Evil MailLady Child Clown Rental	Posted - 2010.04.23 20:03:00 - [213] LOL. The tears just keep flowing!
Nyah Nyah	Posted - 2010.04.23 21:45:00 - [214] Originally by: Jebediah Beane We all know you're terrified of all of us. Too bad you cant see past the shiny shiny to focus on the big picture. Maybe if you tell me again how afraid I am I will suddenly lose my control and composure. Please keep posting.
Evil MailLady Child Clown Rental	Posted - 2010.04.23 21:50:00 - [215] Originally by: Nyah Nyah Originally by: Jebediah Beane We all know you're terrified of all of us. Too bad you cant see past the shiny shiny to focus on the big picture. Maybe if you tell me again how afraid I am I will suddenly lose my control and composure. Please keep posting. LOLergasms. Butthurt much? I can't even barely remember last month, let alone what intarnet spaceships I lost over 6 months ago. This thread delivered, then died, then delivered.
Dandy Mandy	Posted - 2010.04.23 21:57:00 - [216] Originally by: Lyris Nairn If the worst thing you have to complain about in your life at the moment is something negative that happened in a video game, then you have a pretty nice life. :) Maybe you could show us where the bad man touched you? Perhaps a killboard link or some other proof. I for one love the backstories
Jebediah Beane Pursuit of Power	Posted - 2010.04.23 22:17:00 - [217] Originally by: Nyah Nyah Originally by: Jebediah Beane We all know you're terrified of all of us. Too bad you cant see past the shiny shiny to focus on the big picture. Maybe if you tell me again how afraid I am I will suddenly lose my control and composure. Please keep posting. "Asymmetric warfare" can describe a conflict in which the resources of two belligerents differ in essence and in the struggle, interact and attempt to exploit each other's characteristic. <-- You've failed to even attempt to exploit anyone in anyway other than yourself by bringing forth your incompetence. When utilizing your "Information Warfare", it usually helps to start with your "Information" being correct.
Baillif Red Mist Inc.	Posted - 2010.04.24 00:03:00 - [218] Confirming I am Jeb's main
Jebediah Beane Pursuit of Power	Posted - 2010.04.24 00:12:00 - [219] Confirming I am Bailiff's main.
Owen Drakkar Terra Nostra	Posted - 2010.04.24 00:13:00 - [220] ^^ These two clowns are my alts.

Bask Ilisk	Posted - 2010.06.14 02:34:00 - [221] lol this thread is awesome.
XenosisReaper Rising Ashes Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.15 10:36:00 - [222] So, did the scammee kill herself then? SPANK YOU KILLED A woMAN Originally by: XenosisReaper /me feels left out because he was ignored by the devtrain Originally by: CCP Shadow You are hereby "un-ignored". The name XenosisReaper will live on forever
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.06.15 11:23:00 - [223] Originally by: XenosisReaper So, did the scammee kill herself then? SPANK YOU KILLED A woMAN I really don't think that's something to joke about.
XenosisReaper Rising Ashes Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.15 11:44:00 - [224] I find your lack of callousness disturbing Originally by: XenosisReaper /me feels left out because he was ignored by the devtrain Originally by: CCP Shadow You are hereby "un-ignored". The name XenosisReaper will live on forever
Tiima Tuscan	Posted - 2010.06.15 12:26:00 - [225] Edited by: Tiima Tuscan on 15/06/2010 12:26:59 I wasted most of my already measly half an hour lunchbreak reading this car crash of a thread and I feel seriously out of pocket.
Saul Reaver Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.06.15 13:32:00 - [226] Edited by: Saul Reaver on 15/06/2010 13:33:11 Go buy a Domi, Fit it with at least 4 x 1600mm Plates, Fit at least 3 Heavy Neuts and a couple of Medium Neuts, Dual Large Cap boosters with 800 Charges. A nice selection of Drones and go gank his arse. Edit - Not forgetting the Dread Guristas Warp Scrambler or normall T2. ----------------------------------------

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