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Goldboom
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Posted - 2010.01.02 09:53:00 -
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Tucked somewhere in the vaults of CCP's website there's an article which advise the use of secure containers when hauling. In addition i remember a corp member last year who advised to tuck everything in secure containers when hauling as the containers would anchor immediately when ur ship get blown up.
Is this still or was this ever true?
Do secure containers have any benefit when fitted in the cargohold of a hauler besides the volume bonus?
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Fenren
Minmatar
Bure Astro Photography
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Posted - 2010.01.02 14:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Goldboom
Do secure containers have any benefit when fitted in the cargohold of a hauler besides the volume bonus?
No not really. But do you need any mor benefit than that?
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Actionbastrd
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Posted - 2010.01.02 15:27:00 -
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Actually, if I remember right, GSC's Have a mass of 3000m3, but they have a capacity of 3900m3. SO with the use of GSC's you can carry even more. Hadn't even realised until after I looked at the attributes. Its probably already known by everyone, and it probably has some huge drawback, but it sure made hauling ammo easier.
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Wayward Daughter
Swords of the Righteous
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Posted - 2010.01.02 17:24:00 -
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A ship scan done by a third party does not reveal what is inside your secure containers. This can be helpful if you're going through the suicide gank pipes; a potential ganker might not suicide your hauler for 10 potentially-empty Giant Secure Containers in a situation where he definitely would to acquire 30,000 m3 of faction missiles.
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Sphit Ker
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Posted - 2010.01.02 17:29:00 -
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Nope. It does not seam to work like that. I tested this just now by putting a module into a small secure container then self-destructing my ship. The container and the module within got blow up along the ship, leaving nothing but an empty wreck.
Perhaps self-destruction != getting blown up by guns?
Anyway, I think another advantage to using secure cans is if somebody run a cargo scanner on you, it will only report some secure containers and not the goods that lies within.
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Tippia
Reikoku
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.02 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Wayward Daughter
A ship scan done by a third party does not reveal what is inside your secure containers.
Yes it does.
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Welikealts
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Posted - 2010.01.02 17:49:00 -
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It is my understanding that when a ship is destroyed, all contents of 'containers' are bundled into the same 'group' for the drop/destroy check, leading to hauling in a container being either a big payday for the ganker, or giving them nothing at all.
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Deb Dukar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.02 18:47:00 -
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back in 2004 or so when secure containers where introduced u could set a passwort for the open attempt itself. they didnt needed to be anchored (in fact anchoring didnt even exist ;) ). this resulted in tons of unhappy pirates who had tons of containers but couldnt open them :D
i have no clue how it works right now but somehow i believe they are just protected when they are anchored. i might be wrong ... hope i am.
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Fenren
Minmatar
Bure Astro Photography
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Posted - 2010.01.02 21:49:00 -
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there is another use for them...
If you transport a lot of expensive mods and have them all in one container, there is aproxematley 50% chanse that the one hwo is after your loot wont get any! (the can and all its content gets one roll of the dice together instead of one each)
so it can be used as a way to make suicide ganks a little bit riskier (althou they can hit the jackpot then...)
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Actionbastrd
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:31:00 -
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Originally by: Goldboom
...besides the volume bonus?
Wow. Guess I need to read a little better. Ignore my useless post.
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Blueneon
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:54:00 -
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Small subject hijacking/recycling about to take place...
(I did run a search but didn't really get the answers for these questions amongst the mass of wrong turns that search led me down.)
How long can GSC's be left out in space anchored? Do they pop after a certain period of time or are they good to go for a lengthy period of time? (A few says/weeks perhaps?)
& also, once you have anchored it for the first time and set the password, do you need to set a new password each and everytime you "re-drop and anchor it" or does the initial password stick?
Thanks in advance. (:
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Tippia
Reikoku
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 06:07:00 -
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Originally by: Blueneon
How long can GSC's be left out in space anchored? Do they pop after a certain period of time or are they good to go for a lengthy period of time? (A few says/weeks perhaps?)
30 days from the last time it was accessed.
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Chalrayne Illyndar
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Posted - 2010.01.03 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Wayward Daughter
A ship scan done by a third party does not reveal what is inside your secure containers.
Yes it does.
Containers within containers however don't.
Ship->Container->Junk =Shows on scan
Ship->Courier Contract->Giant secure container->Junk = Junk doesn't show on scan
I haven't tried it but in theory Freighter->Ship->Container->Junk should work as well
Objects in Corp hangers (of say an orca) don't show.
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Tippia
Reikoku
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 07:17:00 -
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Originally by: Chalrayne Illyndar
I haven't tried it but in theory Freighter->Ship->Container->Junk should work as well
It won't work even in theory since, if you have a container – or, indeed, anything – inside a ship, you can't put it on a freighter. They don't accept assembled ships except as part of a courier contract, and then you don't need the ship to begin with.
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Blueneon
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Posted - 2010.01.03 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Blueneon
How long can GSC's be left out in space anchored? Do they pop after a certain period of time or are they good to go for a lengthy period of time? (A few says/weeks perhaps?)
30 days from the last time it was accessed.
Many thanks.
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Goldboom
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Posted - 2010.01.03 10:41:00 -
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Thank you all for your input.
I'll remember: Containers increases your hauling capacity but doesn't protect against pirating.
Btw Is this also true with the secure audit log container?
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MerchantofVenal
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Chalrayne Illyndar
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Wayward Daughter
A ship scan done by a third party does not reveal what is inside your secure containers.
Yes it does.
Containers within containers however don't.
Ship->Container->Junk =Shows on scan
Ship->Courier Contract->Giant secure container->Junk = Junk doesn't show on scan
I haven't tried it but in theory Freighter->Ship->Container->Junk should work as well
Objects in Corp hangers (of say an orca) don't show.
You can't fit assembled ships or containers in a freighter.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:44:00 -
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Edited by: Toshiro GreyHawk on 03/01/2010 11:45:45
Ummm ... one more thing here ... the impression I have ... is that what is true for GSC's is true for any container. They are all "planck" containers.
The password gets you nothing when hauling it. The only thing that makes the GSC's special - is that they can be anchored.
They are the preferred choice for hauling - simply because they are the biggest containers that can be fit in a ship.
Also, if you forget the password and can't get into a container - you can repackage it - which will blow the password. Thus - if you don't anchor it - and another player scoops it up - they can just repackage it and all the goodies will pop out.
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries
Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2010.01.04 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Welikealts
It is my understanding that when a ship is destroyed, all contents of 'containers' are bundled into the same 'group' for the drop/destroy check, leading to hauling in a container being either a big payday for the ganker, or giving them nothing at all.
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