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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2012.06.22 09:42:00 -
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In light of the detrimental effects to the amarr miltia regarding the goonsploit, aiding minmatar with a huge boost to upgrades and making them the no brainer FW faction to join: while amarr hemorrhage good players new and old.
Can we get that system reset now please ccp?
The past month we have tryed hard and only lost good men while the minnies swell up with players from all the shiney benefits, now exploited LP upgrading their systems gave them. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Har Harrison
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
209
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Posted - 2012.06.22 10:01:00 -
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Whilst I doubt that will happen, I think CCP MUST put some effort into fixing ALL of the issues the Amarr have been jumping up and down about NOW before too many just walk away in disgust. We told them it was broken and not working and unbalanced and the Goons have proven that, though on a scale and in a manner that is beyond the scope of anything we had realised.
For all the claims Han and others have made about how the warzone will not balance itself out now, that is a load of crap. The minmitar MILITIA have had a clear advantage in gaining LP to convert to ships and/or ISK such that they will have the ISK to field strong fleets for MONTHS. Jade is claiming to have made BILLIONS out of this...
P.S. Hans - NOW is this a crisis???
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1495268#post1495268
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Har Harrison wrote:Hans, if they DON'T do something soon, you might see a total collapse of the Amarr Militia. There is no way we can compete when the minmitar can make the LP they are, cash in it and then return in SFIs which is the best faction cruiser going around pretty much... It costs them nothing to fly one. We have to spend a fortune to get the equivalent ship from our store and SFIs are still expensive for us when we have no isk. Even if you remove the ISK side of things and go with the approach that Fweddit has of many numbers in cheap ships, it still doesn't remove the fact your side can capture a plex with 1 guy while we need a fleet. It might be turd polishing, but it MUST be done in Inferno 1.1 or soon after as the winter expansion is too long to fix something we all knew was an issue BEFORE Inferno Don't give us a rolls royce in 3-4 months time. Give us a fix now (must kill NPCs) and THEN go away and work out a better long term fix... If they can do it for the UI, they can do it for this!!! The problems with the UI affected everyone in the entire game without question, Faction Warfare is only small subset of players, and besides no one's been able to successfully convince CCP yet that there is a "crisis" here where one faction is stuck purely based on the mechanics alone. So I think the sense of urgency you'd like them to have on this issue probably isn't the same sense of urgency they're going to have.I've already spoke with them about this though, and discussed the exact solutions proposed in this thread by you all. I'm just not sure they're going to devote the time to it or not. Like I said, that's something only Ytterbium can clarify or give reasons as to why that's not possible. Regarding the sleeper AI - whatever they end up using, the design goal is to tailor fit them to be fought against using PvP fits. The NPC's may not be copycats of incursion rats or sleeper rates, CCP has the capability at least to custom make new NPC's and adjust their strengths and firepower to fit. If it were me coding them, I'd make them fewer in number, smart enough that they mitigate speed tanking and force a ship-up for each plex size but are still straightforward enough to kill that they don't serve as a persistent deterrent to PvP. They shouldn't force pilots into *tank-the-room* PvE fits that focus on DPS-soaking, but they should have enough webbing frigates and such that you put yourself at much higher risk going into a larger plex in a small ship. All that to say, I've heard enough of their intentions here to not worry too much about this pushing FW back into PvE-land. We already have incursions, there is no need to duplicate that here,
Why won't CCP fix the ongoing FW issues? NPC balance, timer bugs etc??? |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
311
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Posted - 2012.06.22 10:09:00 -
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The only thing this has done is give us better LP-ISK conversions. It has done nothing in terms of actually taking and holding space, except from a very abstract view in the sense that we have had the potential of making more ISK from FacWar than you have.
It's not like you guys haven't been exploiting the fact that the Minmatar have had T4 and occasionally T5 warzone control, either. Many of the Amarr have admitted they use Minmatar alts to farm missions or plexes in order to make ISK.
And so what if Jade says he has made "BILLIONS (holy crap, billions! with a B!)". Many of us on both sides of the war have made and continue to make billions off of FW and other activities. Billions is nothing special, unlike the Goonies' Trillions which is indeed impressive. But those Trillions are in Goon pockets, not ours.
A system reset goes against everything CCP has stood for in the history of EVE. Thinking CCP is going to give you one is just naive, wishful thinking. Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
Har Harrison
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
209
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Posted - 2012.06.22 10:13:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:The only thing this has done is give us better LP-ISK conversions. It has done nothing in terms of actually taking and holding space, except from a very abstract view in the sense that we have had the potential of making more ISK from FacWar than you have.
It's not like you guys haven't been exploiting the fact that the Minmatar have had T4 and occasionally T5 warzone control, either. Many of the Amarr have admitted they use Minmatar alts to farm missions or plexes in order to make ISK.
And so what if Jade says he has made "BILLIONS (holy crap, billions! with a B!)". Many of us on both sides of the war have made and continue to make billions off of FW and other activities. Billions is nothing special, unlike the Goonies' Trillions which is indeed impressive. But those Trillions are in Goon pockets, not ours.
A system reset goes against everything CCP has stood for in the history of EVE. Thinking CCP is going to give you one is just naive, wishful thinking. Some Amarr have farmed due to a broken mechanic. Doesn't change the fact that your side can complete majors in a 1 frig with a one week old char and we can't whilst you get bonus LP and cheap ships and we don't and the goons propped you up.
The reason you held that many systems is because you could plex more effectively than we could BEFORE Inferno AND it only took 5-6 hours to flip a system instead of something that now takes over a day.
Justify it all you want but broken game mechanics and lack of balance HAS given the minmitar a massive advantage and all you tell us is who great you are and how much we suck. Make it a fair fight once and for all and then see how things work out. Why won't CCP fix the ongoing FW issues? NPC balance, timer bugs etc??? |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
327
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Posted - 2012.06.22 10:20:00 -
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Id say delete the upgrades, but since minmatar have so many more people farming more LP over the last month, due to the attractiveness of the faction, minnies can likely just prop that back up themselves now and leave us in the same position.
The damage has been done and the war is forever slanted.
The isk is going to be removed from the 'sploiters - that hurts no one but the exploiters for their time - what about the poor amarrians who have been effected directly by the LP generated? Is that going to be removed too?
Wishful thinking possibly, but still worth a ramble from a butt hurt player, his crumbling faction and friends. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
311
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Posted - 2012.06.22 10:21:00 -
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Har Harrison wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:The only thing this has done is give us better LP-ISK conversions. It has done nothing in terms of actually taking and holding space, except from a very abstract view in the sense that we have had the potential of making more ISK from FacWar than you have.
It's not like you guys haven't been exploiting the fact that the Minmatar have had T4 and occasionally T5 warzone control, either. Many of the Amarr have admitted they use Minmatar alts to farm missions or plexes in order to make ISK.
And so what if Jade says he has made "BILLIONS (holy crap, billions! with a B!)". Many of us on both sides of the war have made and continue to make billions off of FW and other activities. Billions is nothing special, unlike the Goonies' Trillions which is indeed impressive. But those Trillions are in Goon pockets, not ours.
A system reset goes against everything CCP has stood for in the history of EVE. Thinking CCP is going to give you one is just naive, wishful thinking. Some Amarr have farmed due to a broken mechanic. Doesn't change the fact that your side can complete majors in a 1 frig with a one week old char and we can't whilst you get bonus LP and cheap ships and we don't and the goons propped you up. The reason you held that many systems is because you could plex more effectively than we could BEFORE Inferno AND it only took 5-6 hours to flip a system instead of something that now takes over a day. Justify it all you want but broken game mechanics and lack of balance HAS given the minmitar a massive advantage and all you tell us is who great you are and how much we suck. Make it a fair fight once and for all and then see how things work out.
I am pretty active in the USTZ, and I know my alliance and corp mates pretty well. I can safely (99.9999% sure) say that NO ONE in LNA (really the only relevant/active group in the USTZ) does that **** where you AFK capture plexes in a speed-tanking frigate. If we're in your space, in your plexes, we're going to be in combat ships looking for fights more than we're looking for easy ISK. Sure, there are a lot of alts who might do that in what ever timezone, alts of hiseccers, nullseccers, pirates, w/e. However, that ISK isn't going in the pockets of the people who are your actual opponents. I can't speak for the EUTZ, who knows, maybe they are a bunch of heartless, evil, greedy bastards who don't actually want fights and just want ISK, but from what I know of them, they operate the same way as us LNA dudes. vOv Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
311
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Posted - 2012.06.22 10:24:00 -
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As to the ability of the Amarr to earn ISK, I do think that the negative penalties of not owning enough of the Warzone are detrimental to everyone in facwar. It should be Base LP Gain/Store which can be improved, not a Base LP Gain/Store that can be diminished to ****.
vOv Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
327
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Posted - 2012.06.22 10:24:00 -
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It is not the older corps we are pointing at for speed tanking in week old alts, its the flood of new players cashing in on your side, making it hard for amarr to take anything back!
The aid of the goonsploit's LP just enhanced your sides attractiveness for those players that might have joined us instead. Its all related.
edit: shame we dont get minmatar LP for killing minmatars :P EDIT again: or perhaps LP for defensive plexing when a side is under 50% systems in the war zone, on a sliding scale etc. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Har Harrison
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
209
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Posted - 2012.06.22 10:25:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:As to the ability of the Amarr to earn ISK, I do think that the negative penalties of not owning enough of the Warzone are detrimental to everyone in facwar. It should be Base LP Gain/Store which can be improved, not a Base LP Gain/Store that can be diminished to ****.
vOv Do you also agree that one side being able to speed tank a major in a frigate with a 1 week old char whilst the other cannot should also continue to exist??? Why won't CCP fix the ongoing FW issues? NPC balance, timer bugs etc??? |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
311
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Posted - 2012.06.22 10:26:00 -
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Har Harrison wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:As to the ability of the Amarr to earn ISK, I do think that the negative penalties of not owning enough of the Warzone are detrimental to everyone in facwar. It should be Base LP Gain/Store which can be improved, not a Base LP Gain/Store that can be diminished to ****.
vOv Do you also agree that one side being able to speed tank a major in a frigate with a 1 week old char whilst the other cannot should also continue to exist???
Of course not. It's bullshit. I'm arguing against a system reset, not a much needed fix of the imbalances of the NPCs. Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
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Har Harrison
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
209
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Posted - 2012.06.22 10:27:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:Id say delete the upgrades, but since minmatar have so many more people farming more LP over the last month, due to the attractiveness of the faction, minnies can likely just prop that back up themselves now and leave us in the same position.
The damage has been done and the war is forever slanted.
The isk is going to be removed from the 'sploiters - that hurts no one but the exploiters for their time - what about the poor amarrians who have been effected directly by the LP generated? Is that going to be removed too?
Wishful thinking possibly, but still worth a ramble from a butt hurt player, his crumbling faction and friends. And here is the issue. I have to ask myself why I should undock and lose ships only to have a 1 week old char undo all of that work at no risk while they make ISK and/or obtain ships from their LP at a discount while I have to pay an inflated price. Even if it wasn't soul destroying, it IS economically crippling... Why won't CCP fix the ongoing FW issues? NPC balance, timer bugs etc??? |
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
234
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Posted - 2012.06.22 10:28:00 -
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No reset, it would make FW pointless cause everytime one side ended up with nothing they would harp back to the time they reset because....
And no its not because I want free SFIs, im not one of the people with a minnie farmer. Minnie PVP toon yes, minnie farmer no. |
Har Harrison
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
209
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Posted - 2012.06.22 10:30:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:Har Harrison wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:As to the ability of the Amarr to earn ISK, I do think that the negative penalties of not owning enough of the Warzone are detrimental to everyone in facwar. It should be Base LP Gain/Store which can be improved, not a Base LP Gain/Store that can be diminished to ****.
vOv Do you also agree that one side being able to speed tank a major in a frigate with a 1 week old char whilst the other cannot should also continue to exist??? Of course not. It's bullshit. I'm arguing against a system reset, not a much needed fix of the imbalances of the NPCs. I don't expect a system reset. But I would love you to give Hans a kick up the backside and tell him to represent ALL of the militia and get this stuff fixed ASAP. If you guys win due to being better, I accept that and +1 to the minmitar militia. But deep down, you all know that you have been given a leg up and therefore you haven't had the true victory you all claim. Get behind the Amarr cause to fix the NPCs and balance everything and THEN if you are still winning, you will know you truely earned it... Why won't CCP fix the ongoing FW issues? NPC balance, timer bugs etc??? |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
311
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Posted - 2012.06.22 10:35:00 -
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Har Harrison wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:Har Harrison wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:As to the ability of the Amarr to earn ISK, I do think that the negative penalties of not owning enough of the Warzone are detrimental to everyone in facwar. It should be Base LP Gain/Store which can be improved, not a Base LP Gain/Store that can be diminished to ****.
vOv Do you also agree that one side being able to speed tank a major in a frigate with a 1 week old char whilst the other cannot should also continue to exist??? Of course not. It's bullshit. I'm arguing against a system reset, not a much needed fix of the imbalances of the NPCs. I don't expect a system reset. But I would love you to give Hans a kick up the backside and tell him to represent ALL of the militia and get this stuff fixed ASAP. If you guys win due to being better, I accept that and +1 to the minmitar militia. But deep down, you all know that you have been given a leg up and therefore you haven't had the true victory you all claim. Get behind the Amarr cause to fix the NPCs and balance everything and THEN if you are still winning, you will know you truely earned it...
We are kicking him about this stuff all the time, mate. It might seem like Hans is a snake just because he is enjoying the benefits of being in the Minmatar, but listening to him on TS3 every day, I can say that he does truly care about the health of all FW, not just the MinMil, like some tinfoil conspiracists like to claim. Ultimately, he (and the CSM) doesn't have a lot of power over CCP. I think he is doing his best to give advice and push suggestions that preserve the spirit of FW while maintaining a fair system. You can choose to believe that, or not. Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
232
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Posted - 2012.06.22 10:55:00 -
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We dont need a reset. We need to remove LP from plexing once again until a better system for occupancy is devised and actual real dev time spend on implementing it. Also, revise the tier system so people can have some balance in their ability to afford ships for PvP.
It is now clear to me that the devs have once again been reallocated to their old projects of WoD and Dust 51POO, albeit much more quietly now. Its a ******* joke that every issue in the game is once again being met with the excuse that i have very little sympathy for "we dont have the dev time to fix it", since i somehow find time to pay for the game.
There was some good stuff in inferno, but on the whole not much of it, and no dev time to fix it, like the many imbalances in FW to the ****** inventory system. Things better start changing fast tbh before people realise that you guys are off on other doomed projects again. ****, you can barely hold this game together and you are off making other games that already have a saturated market lol. |
Har Harrison
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
209
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Posted - 2012.06.22 10:58:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:We are kicking him about this stuff all the time, mate. It might seem like Hans is a snake just because he is enjoying the benefits of being in the Minmatar, but listening to him on TS3 every day, I can say that he does truly care about the health of all FW, not just the MinMil, like some tinfoil conspiracists like to claim. Ultimately, he (and the CSM) doesn't have a lot of power over CCP. I think he is doing his best to give advice and push suggestions that preserve the spirit of FW while maintaining a fair system. You can choose to believe that, or not. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1512848#post1512848
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Pisov viet wrote:Quote: I would strongly suggest, that if you want to hit T5 again. You do it before Amarr grind down the fortress. You guys are still benefiting a great deal from our work. Once they grind down all your 5'ed systems, it's probably game over for you
Confirming this. If nothing else change, minmatar will hold 56 systems after tomorrow's DT, which, once upgraded, will get them just enough to get in T5, maybe one last time before amarr starts ******* them up. This assumes that "Goon manipulation" is the reason we've held 56 systems in the first place. All the Goons are claiming to do is to have propped up the WZ control level with their invested LP. That doesnt mean that the Amarr are necessarily going to suddenly surge forward now that our "backers" are gone. They lost all their space long before this manipulation ever took place. It's not like the easy money has anything to do with why we are winning the territory war. If Goons were claiming to have rolled hundreds of plexing alts into the militia to grind system captures, that would be a different case entirely, but they're not. Also, the end of manipulation of the WZ control doesn't make Tier 5 a suddenly impossible achievement. It takes several million LP to invest every one of 56 systems to level V, this is easily earned by a handful of individual pilots investing an afternoon's worth of work. In other words, Goons are *not* the only ones capable of a coordinated pooling of LP upgrades by any means. The posts that Hans has been making sure seem to suggest that he doesn't see the unbalanced mechanics being a major reason why the Minmitar have gained and held their advantage.
The goons even commented on it - "That is true, minmatar was picked because you were already owning amarr (probably due to speedtanking though). Why won't CCP fix the ongoing FW issues? NPC balance, timer bugs etc??? |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
311
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Posted - 2012.06.22 11:01:00 -
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Har Harrison wrote:The posts that Hans has been making sure seem to suggest that he doesn't see the unbalanced mechanics being a major reason why the Minmitar have gained and held their advantage.
The goons even commented on it - "That is true, minmatar was picked because you were already owning amarr (probably due to speedtanking though).
I read that post and all I see is Hans saying that Goons aren't the sole factor that has caused Minmatar to be stronger than the Amarr and that w/out Goons everything goes to ****. vOv Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
295
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Posted - 2012.06.22 11:03:00 -
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I'll agree with you that what Goons did was a **** move. But technically, besides the market manipulation part, it was all within the rules. So, now, instead of doing something about it.......like a major offensive plexing fleet*. (goons left FW, (as far as my knowledge goes, and according to their post) so there goes alot of the competition) you guys want CCP to come in and press the reset button?
Wow, just......wow
The only thing that should, and CCP Shregs already stated that will happen. Is a few perma bans and a few negative ISK balances...
*this will require using stargates and ships smaller then caps. Which is a concept that a few Amarr corps just don't understand. ... |
Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
17
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Posted - 2012.06.22 11:05:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:We dont need a reset. We need to remove LP from plexing once again until a better system for occupancy is devised and actual real dev time spend on implementing it. Also, revise the tier system so people can have some balance in their ability to afford ships for PvP.
What you have at stake here? You are part of a faction who does not want fights but remove your enemy entirely from face of low-sec. You have yourself said that "Occupancy does not interest me" since you can supposedly just go pirate on your whim. You have also hinted that you have ran so many missions that isk should not be a concern for you.
So am I right that basicly you want to have your cake and eat it too by being a low-sec pirate AND have legit wartargets whom you dont have to worry sentryguns about AND you want to be able to dock whereever you want since camping stations with instalockers is pr0-pvp and docking in hostile occupancy is perfectly normal? |
Har Harrison
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
209
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Posted - 2012.06.22 11:05:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:I'll agree with you that what Goons did was a **** move. But technically, besides the market manipulation part, it was all within the rules. So, now, instead of doing something about it.......like a major offensive plexing fleet. (goons left FW, (as far as my knowledge goes, and according to their post) so there goes alot of the competition) you guys want CCP to come in and press the reset button?
Wow, just......wow
The only thing that should, and CCP Shregs already stated that will happen. Is a few perma bans and a few negative ISK balances... I didn't ask for a reset and my first post said it wouldn't happen...
I AM saying that the Minmitar are swimming in ISK/LP due to what the goons did and the goons picked the minmitar as the militia to use because of the broken NPCs which allowed them to plex far easier then we can and therefore allowed them to capture more systems... Why won't CCP fix the ongoing FW issues? NPC balance, timer bugs etc??? |
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Har Harrison
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
209
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Posted - 2012.06.22 11:06:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:Har Harrison wrote:The posts that Hans has been making sure seem to suggest that he doesn't see the unbalanced mechanics being a major reason why the Minmitar have gained and held their advantage.
The goons even commented on it - "That is true, minmatar was picked because you were already owning amarr (probably due to speedtanking though). I read that post and all I see is Hans saying that Goons aren't the sole factor that has caused Minmatar to be stronger than the Amarr and that w/out Goons everything goes to ****. vOv I totally agree with you. What he DIDN'T say is that the Minmitar also have the benefit of broken NPCs to screw us over with plexing mechanics!!! Why won't CCP fix the ongoing FW issues? NPC balance, timer bugs etc??? |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
327
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Posted - 2012.06.22 11:07:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote: The only thing that should, and CCP Shregs already stated that will happen. Is a few perma bans and a few negative ISK balances...
so the isk that was made to be removed: but the LP that upgraded the systems that caused the window of exploit to open remains in and the knock on effects, left for the amarr to pick up the pieces?
That makes sense to you?
ooooooookay
/logicfail http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Azami Nevinyrall
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
295
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Posted - 2012.06.22 11:09:00 -
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Har Harrison wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:I'll agree with you that what Goons did was a **** move. But technically, besides the market manipulation part, it was all within the rules. So, now, instead of doing something about it.......like a major offensive plexing fleet. (goons left FW, (as far as my knowledge goes, and according to their post) so there goes alot of the competition) you guys want CCP to come in and press the reset button?
Wow, just......wow
The only thing that should, and CCP Shregs already stated that will happen. Is a few perma bans and a few negative ISK balances... I didn't ask for a reset and my first post said it wouldn't happen... I AM saying that the Minmitar are swimming in ISK/LP due to what the goons did and the goons picked the minmitar as the militia to use because of the broken NPCs which allowed them to plex far easier then we can and therefore allowed them to capture more systems...
The threads title says.... Quoting is about to go on here!
To Quote: "Can I haz systems reset now plz" ... |
Har Harrison
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
209
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Posted - 2012.06.22 11:11:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Har Harrison wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:I'll agree with you that what Goons did was a **** move. But technically, besides the market manipulation part, it was all within the rules. So, now, instead of doing something about it.......like a major offensive plexing fleet. (goons left FW, (as far as my knowledge goes, and according to their post) so there goes alot of the competition) you guys want CCP to come in and press the reset button?
Wow, just......wow
The only thing that should, and CCP Shregs already stated that will happen. Is a few perma bans and a few negative ISK balances... I didn't ask for a reset and my first post said it wouldn't happen... I AM saying that the Minmitar are swimming in ISK/LP due to what the goons did and the goons picked the minmitar as the militia to use because of the broken NPCs which allowed them to plex far easier then we can and therefore allowed them to capture more systems... The threads title says.... Quoting is about to go on here! To Quote: "Can I haz systems reset now plz" NOT MY THREAD. First thing I acknowledged is that it won't happen!!!
Still not hearing any dispute that Minmitar have been given multiple leg ups... Why won't CCP fix the ongoing FW issues? NPC balance, timer bugs etc??? |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
327
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Posted - 2012.06.22 11:14:00 -
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Do i really expect CCP to wade in and reset the amarr/minmatar front, after they did not reset before the patch when minnies steamrollered amarr systems in anticipation of the patch?: no.
But its free to ask,while backing it up with a reasonable debate.
I need to stick to the free stuff, since my isk making and pvp career got harpooned from every angle. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
232
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Posted - 2012.06.22 11:14:00 -
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Joanna Ramirez wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:We dont need a reset. We need to remove LP from plexing once again until a better system for occupancy is devised and actual real dev time spend on implementing it. Also, revise the tier system so people can have some balance in their ability to afford ships for PvP. What you have at stake here? You are part of a faction who does not want fights but remove your enemy entirely from face of low-sec. You have yourself said that "Occupancy does not interest me" since you can supposedly just go pirate on your whim. You have also hinted that you have ran so many missions that isk should not be a concern for you. So am I right that basicly you want to have your cake and eat it too by being a low-sec pirate AND have legit wartargets whom you dont have to worry sentryguns about AND you want to be able to dock whereever you want since camping stations with instalockers is pr0-pvp and docking in hostile occupancy is perfectly normal?
What the **** is this?
Ive never camped a station with an instalocker in my life (unlike you), and i have about as many kills as you this month which is odd if i dont want to fight, right?
You really need to stop addressing individuals and assigning your psychotic impressions of the gallente militia as a whole to them. Everyone knows you are imbalanced but please, not everyone wants to see a train wreck every day. For you own sake damar, youve been forum banned twice, take the hint. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2012.06.22 11:18:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote: The only thing that should, and CCP Shregs already stated that will happen. Is a few perma bans and a few negative ISK balances...
so the isk that was made to be removed: but the LP that upgraded the systems that caused the window of exploit to open remains in and the knock on effects, left for the amarr to pick up the pieces? That makes sense to you? ooooooookay /logicfail Oh...**** GUYS, there's alot of systems of us to recapture! We have a awesome chance to make a **** ton of LP...if only we can get our heads out of eachothers asses.....oh wait, that requires work and ...GASP! Effort!!!?!?!?
CCP can we has reset plz...??!? ... |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2012.06.22 11:24:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote: Oh...**** GUYS, there's alot of systems of us to recapture! We have a awesome chance to make a **** ton of LP...if only we can get our heads out of eachothers asses.....oh wait, that requires work and ...GASP! Effort!!!?!?!?
CCP can we has reset plz...??!?
dude, amarrs been sitting on buttons while dodging zee blob for over a month now, chasing frigs out of plexes and got no where. Now we find out minnies have been looking so damned good compared because the goonies were working a hella'sploit boosting the minnies no end.
forgetting for a second we actually have to sit in minmatar plexes in proper pvp/pve ships and that we have no stations to base from since they were taken before the patch, after the changes were announced, of course.
"working as intended" Hans?
The clues are here and while people still care, we will raise this valid and obvious points, till there isnt anyone left and minmatar fw becomes incursions with a better LP store.
I very much doubt ccp had this in mind when spending 5 minutes of a coders time implementing this shite http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Azami Nevinyrall
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2012.06.22 11:35:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote: Oh...**** GUYS, there's alot of systems of us to recapture! We have a awesome chance to make a **** ton of LP...if only we can get our heads out of eachothers asses.....oh wait, that requires work and ...GASP! Effort!!!?!?!?
CCP can we has reset plz...??!?
dude, amarrs been sitting on buttons while dodging zee blob for over a month now, chasing frigs out of plexes and got no where. Now we find out minnies have been looking so damned good compared because the goonies were working a hella'sploit boosting the minnies no end. forgetting for a second we actually have to sit in minmatar plexes in proper pvp/pve ships and that we have no stations to base from since they were taken before the patch, after the changes were announced, of course. "working as intended" Hans? The clues are here and while people still care, we will raise this valid and obvious points, till there isnt anyone left and minmatar fw becomes incursions with a better LP store. I very much doubt ccp had this in mind when spending 5 minutes of a coders time implementing this shite I completely understand what GSF did, and CCP already stated what they're going to do about it.
All in all, stop bitching about your situation. Sucks as it does, just stop bitching about it and go do something about it. Because believe you me. I'm half tempted to bring an alt into Amarr just to farm Minnie LP... ... |
Har Harrison
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
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Posted - 2012.06.22 11:48:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Muad 'dib wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote: Oh...**** GUYS, there's alot of systems of us to recapture! We have a awesome chance to make a **** ton of LP...if only we can get our heads out of eachothers asses.....oh wait, that requires work and ...GASP! Effort!!!?!?!?
CCP can we has reset plz...??!?
dude, amarrs been sitting on buttons while dodging zee blob for over a month now, chasing frigs out of plexes and got no where. Now we find out minnies have been looking so damned good compared because the goonies were working a hella'sploit boosting the minnies no end. forgetting for a second we actually have to sit in minmatar plexes in proper pvp/pve ships and that we have no stations to base from since they were taken before the patch, after the changes were announced, of course. "working as intended" Hans? The clues are here and while people still care, we will raise this valid and obvious points, till there isnt anyone left and minmatar fw becomes incursions with a better LP store. I very much doubt ccp had this in mind when spending 5 minutes of a coders time implementing this shite I completely understand what GSF did, and CCP already stated what they're going to do about it. All in all, stop bitching about your situation. Sucks as it does, and stop bitching about it and do something about it. Because believe you me. I'm half tempted to bring an alt into Amarr just to farm Minnie LP... What the #### do you think we have been trying to do? Hold a tea party? Until CCP fix the NPC plexing issues, we are at a disadvantage. Add to that the Goons also helping out the minnies by gaming the system and you wonder why we have gone no where decent in a month??? Why won't CCP fix the ongoing FW issues? NPC balance, timer bugs etc??? |
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