You're thinking of incursions.

A while back I proposed the idea of corporate missions. They'd be similar to incursions in difficulty and would be designed in such a way that only members of the accepting corporation would get rewards. It would be incursions without the pickup fleets, encouraging long-term relationships to be built and giving PVE-centric corps larger goals. Also, they would serve to develop skills more suitable to PVP. In my idea, these would be THE best highsec income, as they require long-term organization and cooperation.

You're thinking of incursions.

A while back I proposed the idea of corporate missions. They'd be similar to incursions in difficulty and would be designed in such a way that only members of the accepting corporation would get rewards. It would be incursions without the pickup fleets, encouraging long-term relationships to be built and giving PVE-centric corps larger goals. Also, they would serve to develop skills more suitable to PVP. In my idea, these would be THE best highsec income, as they require long-term organization and cooperation.

You're thinking of incursions.

A while back I proposed the idea of corporate missions. They'd be similar to incursions in difficulty and would be designed in such a way that only members of the accepting corporation would get rewards. It would be incursions without the pickup fleets, encouraging long-term relationships to be built and giving PVE-centric corps larger goals. Also, they would serve to develop skills more suitable to PVP. In my idea, these would be THE best highsec income, as they require long-term organization and cooperation.

you cannot play eve as a singleplayer game because it's not. even if you are the most boring person in the world and only ever run lvl4s, you still have to watch out for ganks and interact with the market.
forcing people to play together does not make sense if they prefer playing alone.

You're thinking of incursions.

A while back I proposed the idea of corporate missions. They'd be similar to incursions in difficulty and would be designed in such a way that only members of the accepting corporation would get rewards. It would be incursions without the pickup fleets, encouraging long-term relationships to be built and giving PVE-centric corps larger goals. Also, they would serve to develop skills more suitable to PVP. In my idea, these would be THE best highsec income, as they require long-term organization and cooperation.

I believe the word you're looking for is "wormholes".

I have never messed with them but from my understanding wormholes might start in highsec but they lead to what amounts to nullsec so no definitely not wormholes.

So you want incursions without competition for sites?

No I didn't say I want incursions without competition. I said some forum of highsec multiplayer content that would require 3 to 5 pilots. I even said no logistics so that is nothing like the current incursions.

This thread is not about Incursions or the recent nerf. I only mentioned them because it was the ONLY highsec content that required a fleet.

Why do so many lowsec / nullsec pilots feel threatened by the concept of additional content for highsec?

Do you honestly think your huge alliances will collapse when everyone in Eve says "oh wow new highsec content!"??

Guys if you have reasonable a disagreement please say why but don't the thread derailed by trolling.

Well grinding level 4's in a battleship all by myself is pretty much solo. Yes I have to worry about the once in a blue moon gank and sell stuff on the market but I would hardly consider that the same as being in a fleet with other players.

Maybe you misread my post but I didn't say anything about forcing anyone to do anything. I never said anything about removing level 4's but adding NEW CONTENT.

You would still have the option to solo grind level 4's. You would also have the option to do this new content if you CHOOSE to do so.

you will probably agree with me that a significant portion of carebears play to get rich. they either do not know about station trading or prefer shooting red crosses to updating market orders all day errry day (and who can blame them).
now, if you take said carebears and tell them that they would make twice the ISK if they could bring themselves to fleet up with random strangers and shoot tougher red crosses, you exert pressure on them to do so. they will grudgingly join a group and may or may not find the group experience entertaining but lastly they are in it for the money and if the money were not there they would prefer to stay alone again.
so my question to you is: do you think it's a good idea to lure people into something they do not really want by offering them better pay? if so, what's your argument aside from 'eve is a multiplayer game'?

P.S.: if the group missions you propose are not supposed to pay any better than incursions do now, i rest my case. the difference to playing solo is there but it's not large enough to FORCE people to team up (a fact very neatly shown by all the incursion tear threads).

I'm not asking for a a big money maker like incursions but something a little bit more fun and profitable than solo missions. If they really don't want it they won't do it. Im just asking for the content to be available. The pay won't be so high as to lure people who really don't like it.

Also why do some players act like it's such a bad thing to do PVE to make ISK? Do you honestly think anyone is in a Hulk for entertainment?? Part of Eve is about making ISK. New ships don't grow on trees.

The content is available. You just refuse to go to it.

In highsec?

Read the second sentence. Just because you refuse to go where there is group content aside from Incursions, doesn't mean that CCP needs to cater to you.

L5s used to be in HS. CCP decided that they preferred group (semi-)instanced content to exist only outside of HS. L5s are now only available in LS.

Read the first word in the title of this thread. The whole topic of this post is adding content in highsec. Not about what content already exists in low or nullsec. Please keep it on topic.

And l5s (group missions) were moved out of HS for a reason.

And they are almost dead now..

There was no reason at all, just a failed try to force peeps into low.

Either way, CCP said with that move that they didn't want group missions in HS.

And we all know CCP has never done something then realized it was a mistake.

Just because CCP does something doesn't mean we can't ask for something different on the forums.

If CCP did something to mess with what you like to do in Eve I'm sure you would be the first to post on here!

What you claim to like to do exists in EvE. It's just not in places that are convenient for you (or in the exact instanced form you want; Incursions are group PvE in HS. It's what you asked for).

Please reread the original post again before you reply.

3-5 pilots

In highsec

No logistics

Makes more than level 4 missions.

This is not Incursions...

I understand you don't agree with the idea but at this point you're just posting something to troll without even thinking. It only makes you look silly and derails the intent of the thread.

Now back to the thread topic... Does anyone have an intelligent response as to why this is a bad or good idea?

A while back CCP raised the noob corp tax to get people to play with other players. This might have helped a little but for some reason it seems in high sec Eve is still a single player game...

There needs to be PVE content in Eve where it requires multiple players to successfully complete. The payout must be higher than the single player content to encourage people to get away from the solo mission grind.

Incursions were that content but since the nerf many highsec pilots have gone back to the single player content.

This is not an incursion nerf thread so please don't derail it with if the nerf was needed or not.

My suggestion would be harder missions that require multiple ships to complete. I'm not talking about 10 but 3GÇô4 high skilled pilots in mission ships.

The payout would be about 10GÇô20 percent more than solo level 4's. Of course this would be adjusted depending on how it works in game.

Just like any mission it would have a gate that would limit the ships you could use. Logistics ships would not be allowed.

Eve is more fun if you get the "Multiplayer" part of the MMORPG!