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SirMolle
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Posted - 2004.11.20 16:40:00 -
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Edited by: SirMolle on 20/11/2004 17:04:00
Last night, close to x-7o area, a RN pilot inside a EVOL gang got attacked by a FU member. The gang responded and downed the bship which called for backup, the backup compromised of several different corps, were also destroyed.
As a reaction to this, NSA assembled a fleet to "clean us out from c4c". We responded by sending a small force into the heart of NSA space and several skirmishes occured where 9 NSA/FU battleships were destroyed. Our losses were minor, and compromised of 3 frigates.
FU and NSA were last night both to be considered hostile until further notice by EVOL.
Due to information aquired ~2-3 weeks ago from NSA internal forums, by "warmongers", who wants to prepare to attack EVOL / BoB, we responded fast and hard.
The information that was gathered clearly showed us that we needed to be aware of hostile acts;
http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/evolprep.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/militarycommand.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/post2.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/post3.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/post4.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/post5.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/post6.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/post7.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/post8.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/post9.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/post10.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/post11.jpg
In talks today with NSA council reps, it was decided that a state of war is in fact, the outcome. No talks have been made with FU, their forum posturing is enough to act on.
Evolution will answer the call.
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2004.11.20 16:40:00 -
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Edited by: SirMolle on 20/11/2004 17:04:00
Last night, close to x-7o area, a RN pilot inside a EVOL gang got attacked by a FU member. The gang responded and downed the bship which called for backup, the backup compromised of several different corps, were also destroyed.
As a reaction to this, NSA assembled a fleet to "clean us out from c4c". We responded by sending a small force into the heart of NSA space and several skirmishes occured where 9 NSA/FU battleships were destroyed. Our losses were minor, and compromised of 3 frigates.
FU and NSA were last night both to be considered hostile until further notice by EVOL.
Due to information aquired ~2-3 weeks ago from NSA internal forums, by "warmongers", who wants to prepare to attack EVOL / BoB, we responded fast and hard.
The information that was gathered clearly showed us that we needed to be aware of hostile acts;
http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/evolprep.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/militarycommand.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/post2.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/post3.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/post4.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/post5.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/post6.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/post7.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/post8.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/post9.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/post10.jpg http://www.eve-evol.com/eve/screens/post11.jpg
In talks today with NSA council reps, it was decided that a state of war is in fact, the outcome. No talks have been made with FU, their forum posturing is enough to act on.
Evolution will answer the call.
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Malken
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Posted - 2004.11.20 16:53:00 -
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and RN is who?
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Malken
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Posted - 2004.11.20 16:53:00 -
[4]
and RN is who?
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patch
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Posted - 2004.11.20 16:55:00 -
[5]
Rough Necks.
A corp thats been working alongside us.
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patch
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Posted - 2004.11.20 16:55:00 -
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Rough Necks.
A corp thats been working alongside us.
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bUBbLeS
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Posted - 2004.11.20 16:59:00 -
[7]
Originally by: Malken and RN is who?
mining pets
Julius ceaser : "operor vos volo MCCCXXXVII laganum bUBbLeS?"
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bUBbLeS
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Posted - 2004.11.20 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Malken and RN is who?
mining pets
Julius ceaser : "operor vos volo MCCCXXXVII laganum bUBbLeS?"
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.11.20 16:59:00 -
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Who was the pilot?
Maybe he was a spy...what better way to get some dirty action than to attack the ultra-reactionary Evolution corporation?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.11.20 16:59:00 -
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Who was the pilot?
Maybe he was a spy...what better way to get some dirty action than to attack the ultra-reactionary Evolution corporation?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
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Panzer
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu Edited by: Mastiphal Nosferatu on
w00t thx ;)
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Panzer
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu Edited by: Mastiphal Nosferatu on
w00t thx ;)
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Nimbu
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:08:00 -
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Very briefly with regard to RN,
From the instatement of the new government in Fade Union, RN were informed that they would be considered KoS by Fade Union. (they had been seen pirating in PB, and our members had been fired upon (apprx 2 months ago). They acknoledged this from the begining, and infact there rep was totally fine with it as long as we did "moan" when they killed our pilots.
An official FU responce will be posted shortly.
----------------------------- Hmmmm........ Crokite
99% of the above is said in RP. The Other 1% is personal, and should be taken that way. :P
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Nimbu
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:08:00 -
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Very briefly with regard to RN,
From the instatement of the new government in Fade Union, RN were informed that they would be considered KoS by Fade Union. (they had been seen pirating in PB, and our members had been fired upon (apprx 2 months ago). They acknoledged this from the begining, and infact there rep was totally fine with it as long as we did "moan" when they killed our pilots.
An official FU responce will be posted shortly.
----------------------------- Hmmmm........ Crokite
99% of the above is said in RP. The Other 1% is personal, and should be taken that way. :P
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The End
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:10:00 -
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Ok after all this i take it SA is next to have a "accident"
they are afterall the only ones left 
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The End
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:10:00 -
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Ok after all this i take it SA is next to have a "accident"
they are afterall the only ones left 
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Anndy
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:12:00 -
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Edited by: Anndy on 20/11/2004 17:15:17 lol BOB sure does like trying to find reasons to attack their allies along with the rest of eve
to me your all nothing but a bunch of pirates and evol pets
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Anndy
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:12:00 -
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Edited by: Anndy on 20/11/2004 17:15:17 lol BOB sure does like trying to find reasons to attack their allies along with the rest of eve
to me your all nothing but a bunch of pirates and evol pets
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:13:00 -
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So I am flying around in 0.0 in a frigate and somebody pops me and so???
It is highly unlikely that 100 of my friends in BS would want to take the effort to avenge my frigate loss and drop everything else that they were doing just because of that. They would probably tell me to be careful out there or that I am an idiot for getting blown up.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:13:00 -
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So I am flying around in 0.0 in a frigate and somebody pops me and so???
It is highly unlikely that 100 of my friends in BS would want to take the effort to avenge my frigate loss and drop everything else that they were doing just because of that. They would probably tell me to be careful out there or that I am an idiot for getting blown up.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:21:00 -
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:21:00 -
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Darth Maul
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Rthor So I am flying around in 0.0 in a frigate and somebody pops me and so???
It is highly unlikely that 100 of my friends in BS would want to take the effort to avenge my frigate loss and drop everything else that they were doing just because of that.
That's because you're not in Evolution.
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Darth Maul
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Rthor So I am flying around in 0.0 in a frigate and somebody pops me and so???
It is highly unlikely that 100 of my friends in BS would want to take the effort to avenge my frigate loss and drop everything else that they were doing just because of that.
That's because you're not in Evolution.
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CoolSprog
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:24:00 -
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Edited by: CoolSprog on 20/11/2004 17:27:43
Originally by: bUBbLeS
Originally by: Malken and RN is who?
mining pets
*****, i hate mining!  -----
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CoolSprog
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:24:00 -
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Edited by: CoolSprog on 20/11/2004 17:27:43
Originally by: bUBbLeS
Originally by: Malken and RN is who?
mining pets
*****, i hate mining!  -----
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert Who was the pilot?
Maybe he was a spy...what better way to get some dirty action than to attack the ultra-reactionary Evolution corporation?
Who in their right mind would actually want to **** off Evol? Especially when you are so close to their home bases. Now BoB wont have to go to the CA to get some more action ;) --------------------------------------------------
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert Who was the pilot?
Maybe he was a spy...what better way to get some dirty action than to attack the ultra-reactionary Evolution corporation?
Who in their right mind would actually want to **** off Evol? Especially when you are so close to their home bases. Now BoB wont have to go to the CA to get some more action ;) --------------------------------------------------
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Darth Maul
Originally by: Rthor So I am flying around in 0.0 in a frigate and somebody pops me and so???
It is highly unlikely that 100 of my friends in BS would want to take the effort to avenge my frigate loss and drop everything else that they were doing just because of that.
That's because you're not in Evolution.
thats because i take care of my own biz instead of dumping it on my friends' to do list
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Darth Maul
Originally by: Rthor So I am flying around in 0.0 in a frigate and somebody pops me and so???
It is highly unlikely that 100 of my friends in BS would want to take the effort to avenge my frigate loss and drop everything else that they were doing just because of that.
That's because you're not in Evolution.
thats because i take care of my own biz instead of dumping it on my friends' to do list
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MyLittleHelper
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:29:00 -
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Quote: 9 NSA/FU battleships were destroyed. Our losses were minor, and compromised of 3 frigates.
Kudos to NSA/FU.
They managed to destroy something, unlike FA. 
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MyLittleHelper
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:29:00 -
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Quote: 9 NSA/FU battleships were destroyed. Our losses were minor, and compromised of 3 frigates.
Kudos to NSA/FU.
They managed to destroy something, unlike FA. 
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Ciram Mc
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:38:00 -
[33]
Wait, whos RN again...? 
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Ciram Mc
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:38:00 -
[34]
Wait, whos RN again...? 
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Levka
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:41:00 -
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To my knowledge NSA only lost 2 BSs. And one of the pilots was on suicide mission and decided to take on 12 Elov itys/frigs/cruisers on his own in his scorp. He did kill 2 of them. But those are just formalities and dont matter much. ------------------------------------------------------------
If you dont have anything SMART to say.... Say it often and loud .
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Levka
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:41:00 -
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To my knowledge NSA only lost 2 BSs. And one of the pilots was on suicide mission and decided to take on 12 Elov itys/frigs/cruisers on his own in his scorp. He did kill 2 of them. But those are just formalities and dont matter much. ------------------------------------------------------------
If you dont have anything SMART to say.... Say it often and loud .
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Robotek Hybrid
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:50:00 -
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where the hell is tribunal and why do nsa think they can push bob therE? --------------------------------------------
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Robotek Hybrid
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:50:00 -
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where the hell is tribunal and why do nsa think they can push bob therE? --------------------------------------------
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:50:00 -
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Good reason or Bad reason? does it matter NO, war is upon us and we will fight the best we can ans see what it will bring us!
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:50:00 -
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Good reason or Bad reason? does it matter NO, war is upon us and we will fight the best we can ans see what it will bring us!
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LLeBRing
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:51:00 -
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looks like i'll be able to make the second half of that vid afterall 
I'm getting excited just thinking about it
Nuttin but corn bread en chicken for this fella  |

LLeBRing
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:51:00 -
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looks like i'll be able to make the second half of that vid afterall 
I'm getting excited just thinking about it
Nuttin but corn bread en chicken for this fella  |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: LLeBRing looks like i'll be able to make the second half of that vid afterall 
I'm getting excited just thinking about it
\o/
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T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: LLeBRing looks like i'll be able to make the second half of that vid afterall 
I'm getting excited just thinking about it
\o/
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T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Kryztal
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:00:00 -
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LoL, you see the date on those nsa forum posts ? They are rite after Evol went through deklein attacking NSA members .... what did you expect ?!? 
Cookies 4tw *\o/*
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Kryztal
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:00:00 -
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LoL, you see the date on those nsa forum posts ? They are rite after Evol went through deklein attacking NSA members .... what did you expect ?!? 
Cookies 4tw *\o/*
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juel
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:05:00 -
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Now make sure and look for NSA at the right spots now. First and most likely spots are in roid fields mining as they can't interupt mining for a little ol war. Second good spot to find them is in stations. Ofcourse getting them to come out might be a problem.
Third is the very well known sps scattered through their system. Now they will get a blob together, but they do have to do important things first like ask back and forth who has what mod and so on for half an hour. Then ofcourse the leader has to be decided and this will have to be voted on. Once ready.."fear the NSA blob"
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juel
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:05:00 -
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Now make sure and look for NSA at the right spots now. First and most likely spots are in roid fields mining as they can't interupt mining for a little ol war. Second good spot to find them is in stations. Ofcourse getting them to come out might be a problem.
Third is the very well known sps scattered through their system. Now they will get a blob together, but they do have to do important things first like ask back and forth who has what mod and so on for half an hour. Then ofcourse the leader has to be decided and this will have to be voted on. Once ready.."fear the NSA blob"
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meafy
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:19:00 -
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i will remind all NSA pilots to leave this issue to the apointed representatives
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meafy
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:19:00 -
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i will remind all NSA pilots to leave this issue to the apointed representatives
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Val Duane
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:24:00 -
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Firstly, let me just say!! SLOW DOWN!! you guys posting faster than I can reply!
Secondly, the RN pilot that was shot at by a FU member was in a BoB gang at the time, in system witht hat gang. THe attack ont eh pilot was considered a hostile act on the gang, and the gang responded. He did not lose his rifter, the Apoc pilot who attacked him did go down.
Thirdly, this is not the REASON BoB is attacking FU and NSA, but only the spark that ignited the mound of petrol cans already stacked up by the NSA with their forum posts.
Fourthly, for those wondering who RN are...We are a small corp that became inactive when we all joined m0o. When m0o closed its doors, we all went back to RN, took a few ex-m0o pilots back to RN with us, recruited a few friends and moved in to BoB space. We are erm...."innocent miners" (thanx Flatliner).
In response to this post:
Originally by: Nimbu Very briefly with regard to RN,
From the instatement of the new government in Fade Union, RN were informed that they would be considered KoS by Fade Union. (they had been seen pirating in PB, and our members had been fired upon (apprx 2 months ago). They acknoledged this from the begining, and infact there rep was totally fine with it as long as we did "moan" when they killed our pilots.
An official FU responce will be posted shortly.
Without hauling out the entire log of the convo I had with Nimbu, here is the paraphrased version with highlights:
Val: Stop telling us your space is closed and we will be fired on, just shoot, we don't care, we are travelling through! Nimbu: But we have reports of you pirating us. Val: Yes we pirate, I am not looking for friends. Nimbu: You in BoB? Val: Yes we "in" BoB Nimbu: But we don't shoot RKK and Evol... Val: thats fine don't shoot them, but shoot us as we are likely to kill some of your guys in Pure Blind. Nimbu: But we want to keepgood relations with RKK and Evol So we can extend the same treaty to you. Val: No thanx, we are who we are, thats how it was with m0o, thats how it will be with RN. Nimbu: so what ur saying is "dont tell us ur gonna shoot, if ur gonna do it, do it"? Val: Exactly! and evol and rkk wont come hunt you down for shooting us and I expect you wont moan to them when we shoot you Val: if we in a we in a evol gang at the time I expect things may be slightly different
At this point the convo ended with polite greetings. So basically, the guy in the apoc, shot while we were in a Evol gang and things turned out "slightly different" as I said it would.
At the end of the day, the gang went ona rampage because of your preperations to go to war against us....attacking an Evol Gang member was merely the catalyst.
You made your beds now lie in it.
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Val Duane
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:24:00 -
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Firstly, let me just say!! SLOW DOWN!! you guys posting faster than I can reply!
Secondly, the RN pilot that was shot at by a FU member was in a BoB gang at the time, in system witht hat gang. THe attack ont eh pilot was considered a hostile act on the gang, and the gang responded. He did not lose his rifter, the Apoc pilot who attacked him did go down.
Thirdly, this is not the REASON BoB is attacking FU and NSA, but only the spark that ignited the mound of petrol cans already stacked up by the NSA with their forum posts.
Fourthly, for those wondering who RN are...We are a small corp that became inactive when we all joined m0o. When m0o closed its doors, we all went back to RN, took a few ex-m0o pilots back to RN with us, recruited a few friends and moved in to BoB space. We are erm...."innocent miners" (thanx Flatliner).
In response to this post:
Originally by: Nimbu Very briefly with regard to RN,
From the instatement of the new government in Fade Union, RN were informed that they would be considered KoS by Fade Union. (they had been seen pirating in PB, and our members had been fired upon (apprx 2 months ago). They acknoledged this from the begining, and infact there rep was totally fine with it as long as we did "moan" when they killed our pilots.
An official FU responce will be posted shortly.
Without hauling out the entire log of the convo I had with Nimbu, here is the paraphrased version with highlights:
Val: Stop telling us your space is closed and we will be fired on, just shoot, we don't care, we are travelling through! Nimbu: But we have reports of you pirating us. Val: Yes we pirate, I am not looking for friends. Nimbu: You in BoB? Val: Yes we "in" BoB Nimbu: But we don't shoot RKK and Evol... Val: thats fine don't shoot them, but shoot us as we are likely to kill some of your guys in Pure Blind. Nimbu: But we want to keepgood relations with RKK and Evol So we can extend the same treaty to you. Val: No thanx, we are who we are, thats how it was with m0o, thats how it will be with RN. Nimbu: so what ur saying is "dont tell us ur gonna shoot, if ur gonna do it, do it"? Val: Exactly! and evol and rkk wont come hunt you down for shooting us and I expect you wont moan to them when we shoot you Val: if we in a we in a evol gang at the time I expect things may be slightly different
At this point the convo ended with polite greetings. So basically, the guy in the apoc, shot while we were in a Evol gang and things turned out "slightly different" as I said it would.
At the end of the day, the gang went ona rampage because of your preperations to go to war against us....attacking an Evol Gang member was merely the catalyst.
You made your beds now lie in it.
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TerminusX
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:28:00 -
[53]
Another reminder to NSA pilot to not respond to such post. It will be handled by Foreign Affairs.
Divine Retribution - My name is TerminusX, prepare to die. |

TerminusX
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:28:00 -
[54]
Another reminder to NSA pilot to not respond to such post. It will be handled by Foreign Affairs.
Divine Retribution - My name is TerminusX, prepare to die. |

geewiz
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:31:00 -
[55]
EVOL fly through NSA space and take out some NSA members for fun a few weeks ago, NSA bite there toungues publicly but are mighty ****ed on our forums, what do you expect? ...you have spies in our forums that's big of you.../emote looks at BoB butt kissers and well known spammers of vitriol towards NSA aka AWM
You then find a "frigate incident" ,sounds familiar that one, as an excuse to attack us...
Why not just be honest and say you are contining your EVE - wide road trip you may be respected then by keeping it in game and not these daily forum dictates.
I may get in trouble for posting this but frankly I dont care, dont be disengenious, state your real reasons for attacking NSA/FU i.e. bored and fancied some fun in your former allies territory near your back yard
Gee
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geewiz
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:31:00 -
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EVOL fly through NSA space and take out some NSA members for fun a few weeks ago, NSA bite there toungues publicly but are mighty ****ed on our forums, what do you expect? ...you have spies in our forums that's big of you.../emote looks at BoB butt kissers and well known spammers of vitriol towards NSA aka AWM
You then find a "frigate incident" ,sounds familiar that one, as an excuse to attack us...
Why not just be honest and say you are contining your EVE - wide road trip you may be respected then by keeping it in game and not these daily forum dictates.
I may get in trouble for posting this but frankly I dont care, dont be disengenious, state your real reasons for attacking NSA/FU i.e. bored and fancied some fun in your former allies territory near your back yard
Gee
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Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:35:00 -
[57]
Wow. That is some of the most relevant espionage anyone has ever declassified here. I'd give it an "7" on the shock-o-meter. I even noticed a (guilty) little smile creep over my face while reading those posts. Is there anyway you could publish the comments preceding post#8? 
On a personal note, I'd like to tip my hat to Mr. Gah Ning for the courage displayed in his comments in post#1. Stick to your guns, sir.
Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS |

Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:35:00 -
[58]
Wow. That is some of the most relevant espionage anyone has ever declassified here. I'd give it an "7" on the shock-o-meter. I even noticed a (guilty) little smile creep over my face while reading those posts. Is there anyway you could publish the comments preceding post#8? 
On a personal note, I'd like to tip my hat to Mr. Gah Ning for the courage displayed in his comments in post#1. Stick to your guns, sir.
Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS |

SirMolle
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:36:00 -
[59]
Originally by: geewiz EVOL fly through NSA space and take out some NSA members for fun a few weeks ago, NSA bite there toungues publicly but are mighty ****ed on our forums, what do you expect? ...you have spies in our forums that's big of you.../emote looks at BoB butt kissers and well known spammers of vitriol towards NSA aka AWM
You then find a "frigate incident" ,sounds familiar that one, as an excuse to attack us...
Why not just be honest and say you are contining your EVE - wide road trip you may be respected then by keeping it in game and not these daily forum dictates.
I may get in trouble for posting this but frankly I dont care, dont be disengenious, state your real reasons for attacking NSA/FU i.e. bored and fancied some fun in your former allies territory near your back yard
Gee
The reasons are stated, and the talks have been made with NSA council via Dyring, and the talks was civil.
Our intentions was also clear with the log from Dyring, and ask your council to be updated with information please before jumping to conclusions.
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: geewiz EVOL fly through NSA space and take out some NSA members for fun a few weeks ago, NSA bite there toungues publicly but are mighty ****ed on our forums, what do you expect? ...you have spies in our forums that's big of you.../emote looks at BoB butt kissers and well known spammers of vitriol towards NSA aka AWM
You then find a "frigate incident" ,sounds familiar that one, as an excuse to attack us...
Why not just be honest and say you are contining your EVE - wide road trip you may be respected then by keeping it in game and not these daily forum dictates.
I may get in trouble for posting this but frankly I dont care, dont be disengenious, state your real reasons for attacking NSA/FU i.e. bored and fancied some fun in your former allies territory near your back yard
Gee
The reasons are stated, and the talks have been made with NSA council via Dyring, and the talks was civil.
Our intentions was also clear with the log from Dyring, and ask your council to be updated with information please before jumping to conclusions.
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:40:00 -
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Quote: At this point the convo ended with polite greetings. So basically, the guy in the apoc, shot while we were in a Evol gang and things turned out "slightly different" as I said it would.
OHH so u guys counting on special threatment all after who u fly whit? who do u really think u are?
KOS cant be specified to only when u fly alone either u are kos or u are not! and for now all of u are
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:40:00 -
[62]
Quote: At this point the convo ended with polite greetings. So basically, the guy in the apoc, shot while we were in a Evol gang and things turned out "slightly different" as I said it would.
OHH so u guys counting on special threatment all after who u fly whit? who do u really think u are?
KOS cant be specified to only when u fly alone either u are kos or u are not! and for now all of u are
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Aeoluz
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:43:00 -
[63]
Originally by: juel Now make sure and look for NSA at the right spots now. First and most likely spots are in roid fields mining as they can't interupt mining for a little ol war. Second good spot to find them is in stations. Ofcourse getting them to come out might be a problem.
Third is the very well known sps scattered through their system. Now they will get a blob together, but they do have to do important things first like ask back and forth who has what mod and so on for half an hour. Then ofcourse the leader has to be decided and this will have to be voted on. Once ready.."fear the NSA blob"
You are some kind of idiot. I have a few accounts, active in a number of alliances. Let me educate you. All warfare is the same, all tactics are the same, all people look for either numerical or tactical supremacy, all enemies childishly accuse the other of the things you childishly accuse the NSA of doing. HOWEVER ...
In your case, things a are a bit different - they have not even actually DONE anything yet, you are just pre-empting them using "lame tactics" as a kind of tiresome prescient one-upmanship.
Im kind of tired of inexperienced, illogical people like you trying to look smart on forums. Please never post again as I felt embarrased for you, and pity is something I hate.
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Aeoluz
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:43:00 -
[64]
Originally by: juel Now make sure and look for NSA at the right spots now. First and most likely spots are in roid fields mining as they can't interupt mining for a little ol war. Second good spot to find them is in stations. Ofcourse getting them to come out might be a problem.
Third is the very well known sps scattered through their system. Now they will get a blob together, but they do have to do important things first like ask back and forth who has what mod and so on for half an hour. Then ofcourse the leader has to be decided and this will have to be voted on. Once ready.."fear the NSA blob"
You are some kind of idiot. I have a few accounts, active in a number of alliances. Let me educate you. All warfare is the same, all tactics are the same, all people look for either numerical or tactical supremacy, all enemies childishly accuse the other of the things you childishly accuse the NSA of doing. HOWEVER ...
In your case, things a are a bit different - they have not even actually DONE anything yet, you are just pre-empting them using "lame tactics" as a kind of tiresome prescient one-upmanship.
Im kind of tired of inexperienced, illogical people like you trying to look smart on forums. Please never post again as I felt embarrased for you, and pity is something I hate.
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:45:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Sir JoJo OHH so u guys counting on special threatment all after who u fly whit? who do u really think u are?
KOS cant be specified to only when u fly alone either u are kos or u are not! and for now all of u are
I know you weren't in FU at the time, but still .... the irony.
Wasn't this just exactly the situation that started the CoD/FU vs. PA war a few months back? A JF pilot being in gang with some FU guys and being shot by a few PA people. 
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:45:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Sir JoJo OHH so u guys counting on special threatment all after who u fly whit? who do u really think u are?
KOS cant be specified to only when u fly alone either u are kos or u are not! and for now all of u are
I know you weren't in FU at the time, but still .... the irony.
Wasn't this just exactly the situation that started the CoD/FU vs. PA war a few months back? A JF pilot being in gang with some FU guys and being shot by a few PA people. 
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:48:00 -
[67]
i gotta say pas! i really dont know any about that war!
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:48:00 -
[68]
i gotta say pas! i really dont know any about that war!
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:50:00 -
[69]
*sniff*
Its so beautiful..  _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:50:00 -
[70]
*sniff*
Its so beautiful..  _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |
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Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:51:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: Sir JoJo OHH so u guys counting on special threatment all after who u fly whit? who do u really think u are?
KOS cant be specified to only when u fly alone either u are kos or u are not! and for now all of u are
I know you weren't in FU at the time, but still .... the irony.
Wasn't this just exactly the situation that started the CoD/FU vs. PA war a few months back? A JF pilot being in gang with some FU guys and being shot by a few PA people. 
Shirei, I don't think we need to point out the solid-gold irony attached to this situation.
Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS |

Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:51:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: Sir JoJo OHH so u guys counting on special threatment all after who u fly whit? who do u really think u are?
KOS cant be specified to only when u fly alone either u are kos or u are not! and for now all of u are
I know you weren't in FU at the time, but still .... the irony.
Wasn't this just exactly the situation that started the CoD/FU vs. PA war a few months back? A JF pilot being in gang with some FU guys and being shot by a few PA people. 
Shirei, I don't think we need to point out the solid-gold irony attached to this situation.
Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS |

The Ratfink
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Posted - 2004.11.20 19:21:00 -
[73]
SirMolle post screenshots from our forums aswell i forgot my login :(
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The Ratfink
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Posted - 2004.11.20 19:21:00 -
[74]
SirMolle post screenshots from our forums aswell i forgot my login :(
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.11.20 19:22:00 -
[75]
this thread brings a smile to my face :) ---
Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk |

KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.11.20 19:22:00 -
[76]
this thread brings a smile to my face :) ---
Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk |

Croesus
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Posted - 2004.11.20 19:32:00 -
[77]
I have no strong feelings about this, one way or the other.
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Croesus
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Posted - 2004.11.20 19:32:00 -
[78]
I have no strong feelings about this, one way or the other.
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Dakkon
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Posted - 2004.11.20 19:40:00 -
[79]
lol i sure am Sun Wu
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Dakkon
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Posted - 2004.11.20 19:40:00 -
[80]
lol i sure am Sun Wu
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.11.20 19:44:00 -
[81]
I'm thinking we should count any kills we make inside fu/dek space as PA kills. I mean, turnabout is fair play afterall.
    
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.11.20 19:44:00 -
[82]
I'm thinking we should count any kills we make inside fu/dek space as PA kills. I mean, turnabout is fair play afterall.
    
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.11.20 19:58:00 -
[83]
Yet again Evol demonstrates the only advantage they have and that's their use of spies. Lamest corp/guild I've seen in any MMO I played.
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.11.20 19:58:00 -
[84]
Yet again Evol demonstrates the only advantage they have and that's their use of spies. Lamest corp/guild I've seen in any MMO I played.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Panzer
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Posted - 2004.11.20 20:00:00 -
[85]
[ Originally by: Presidio Yet again Evol demonstrates the only advantage they have and that's their use of spies. Lamest corp/guild I've seen in any MMO I played.
And this is comming from who? 
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Panzer
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Posted - 2004.11.20 20:00:00 -
[86]
[ Originally by: Presidio Yet again Evol demonstrates the only advantage they have and that's their use of spies. Lamest corp/guild I've seen in any MMO I played.
And this is comming from who? 
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.11.20 20:02:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Panzer [ Originally by: Presidio Yet again Evol demonstrates the only advantage they have and that's their use of spies. Lamest corp/guild I've seen in any MMO I played.
And this is comming from who? 
When did I ever spy/posted someone else's chat or forum logs? -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.11.20 20:02:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Panzer [ Originally by: Presidio Yet again Evol demonstrates the only advantage they have and that's their use of spies. Lamest corp/guild I've seen in any MMO I played.
And this is comming from who? 
When did I ever spy/posted someone else's chat or forum logs? -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.20 20:09:00 -
[89]
Another week, another Frigate IncidentÖ.
And this time it wasn't even an Evol or BoB member, nor (apparently) was the rest of the gang around when it happened, just in the same system.
What next Molle?
"SA shot at a guy I was in convo with, SA are now KoS"?
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.20 20:09:00 -
[90]
Another week, another Frigate IncidentÖ.
And this time it wasn't even an Evol or BoB member, nor (apparently) was the rest of the gang around when it happened, just in the same system.
What next Molle?
"SA shot at a guy I was in convo with, SA are now KoS"?
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Val Duane
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Posted - 2004.11.20 20:09:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Sir JoJo
Quote: At this point the convo ended with polite greetings. So basically, the guy in the apoc, shot while we were in a Evol gang and things turned out "slightly different" as I said it would.
OHH so u guys counting on special threatment all after who u fly whit? who do u really think u are?
KOS cant be specified to only when u fly alone either u are kos or u are not! and for now all of u are
Suits me fine. Im not expecting to be treated differently....I merely said if you shoot at us while in an evol gang things might turn out slightly differently. At no point did I say please don't shoot at us....on the contrary I encouraged them to shoot at us. A hostile attack on any member of a evol gang will no doubt be seen as a hostile attack on the gang. I was intelligent enough to forsee that weeks before this event happened. Unfortunately the pilot was not intelligent enough to foresee the consiquences of his actions.
But as I said before....This was merely the catalyst of a problem you yourselves created.
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Val Duane
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Posted - 2004.11.20 20:09:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Sir JoJo
Quote: At this point the convo ended with polite greetings. So basically, the guy in the apoc, shot while we were in a Evol gang and things turned out "slightly different" as I said it would.
OHH so u guys counting on special threatment all after who u fly whit? who do u really think u are?
KOS cant be specified to only when u fly alone either u are kos or u are not! and for now all of u are
Suits me fine. Im not expecting to be treated differently....I merely said if you shoot at us while in an evol gang things might turn out slightly differently. At no point did I say please don't shoot at us....on the contrary I encouraged them to shoot at us. A hostile attack on any member of a evol gang will no doubt be seen as a hostile attack on the gang. I was intelligent enough to forsee that weeks before this event happened. Unfortunately the pilot was not intelligent enough to foresee the consiquences of his actions.
But as I said before....This was merely the catalyst of a problem you yourselves created.
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Znaei
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Posted - 2004.11.20 21:03:00 -
[93]
SirMolle, you could not have been more wrong about our intentions regarding Evol. Those screenshots show annoyed members of NSA. Why were they annoyed at that time? Because your pilots attacked us totally unprovoked. They do not however show the nsa intentions. Did we plan for war? Yes we did. But was it because we were going to attack BoB? Hell no!. BoB has been attacking almost every alliance in the game, why shouldnt we expect the same? Calling us warmongers, specially coming from you, because we plan for an invasion on our home territory is nothing but badly executed propaganda. You may attack us because we we will not abandon our allies in Fade. But you know what? Id much rather waste all my ships and isk rather than going back on my word and backstab someone I consider my friend. Imho, thats what nsa is about.
clagnuts> im drunk just come back from pirates night in spain , wtf i thought it was some eve guys getting together for a drink , turned out to be a feken real pirates show , doh |

Znaei
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Posted - 2004.11.20 21:03:00 -
[94]
SirMolle, you could not have been more wrong about our intentions regarding Evol. Those screenshots show annoyed members of NSA. Why were they annoyed at that time? Because your pilots attacked us totally unprovoked. They do not however show the nsa intentions. Did we plan for war? Yes we did. But was it because we were going to attack BoB? Hell no!. BoB has been attacking almost every alliance in the game, why shouldnt we expect the same? Calling us warmongers, specially coming from you, because we plan for an invasion on our home territory is nothing but badly executed propaganda. You may attack us because we we will not abandon our allies in Fade. But you know what? Id much rather waste all my ships and isk rather than going back on my word and backstab someone I consider my friend. Imho, thats what nsa is about.
clagnuts> im drunk just come back from pirates night in spain , wtf i thought it was some eve guys getting together for a drink , turned out to be a feken real pirates show , doh |

SirMolle
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Posted - 2004.11.20 21:04:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Znaei SirMolle, you could not have been more wrong about our intentions regarding Evol. Those screenshots show annoyed members of NSA. Why were they annoyed at that time? Because your pilots attacked us totally unprovoked. They do not however show the nsa intentions. Did we plan for war? Yes we did. But was it because we were going to attack BoB? Hell no!. BoB has been attacking almost every alliance in the game, why shouldnt we expect the same? Calling us warmongers, specially coming from you, because we plan for an invasion on our home territory is nothing but badly executed propaganda. You may attack us because we we will not abandon our allies in Fade. But you know what? Id much rather waste all my ships and isk rather than going back on my word and backstab someone I consider my friend. Imho, thats what nsa is about.
I didnt call the alliance warmongers, i called elements of the alliance warmongers.
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2004.11.20 21:04:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Znaei SirMolle, you could not have been more wrong about our intentions regarding Evol. Those screenshots show annoyed members of NSA. Why were they annoyed at that time? Because your pilots attacked us totally unprovoked. They do not however show the nsa intentions. Did we plan for war? Yes we did. But was it because we were going to attack BoB? Hell no!. BoB has been attacking almost every alliance in the game, why shouldnt we expect the same? Calling us warmongers, specially coming from you, because we plan for an invasion on our home territory is nothing but badly executed propaganda. You may attack us because we we will not abandon our allies in Fade. But you know what? Id much rather waste all my ships and isk rather than going back on my word and backstab someone I consider my friend. Imho, thats what nsa is about.
I didnt call the alliance warmongers, i called elements of the alliance warmongers.
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kuam
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Posted - 2004.11.20 21:09:00 -
[97]
evol, where the children play
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kuam
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Posted - 2004.11.20 21:09:00 -
[98]
evol, where the children play
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2004.11.20 21:09:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Tatsue Nuko on 20/11/2004 21:14:43
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: Panzer [ Originally by: Presidio Yet again Evol demonstrates the only advantage they have and that's their use of spies. Lamest corp/guild I've seen in any MMO I played.
And this is comming from who? 
When did I ever spy/posted someone else's chat or forum logs?
How about your alliance? You throw a stone at all of Evolution, but you kind of forgot that the glass-house wall of your own alliance was in between...
As a refresher, which alliance is this:
1) The alliance posted screenshots from the internal JF forums, neatly positioned to make them suitably out-of-context.*
2) The alliance leaders and members start to whine when it becomes apparent that - OMFG! - NCA has spies in their midst! THE LAMEZOR! CALL MIAMI VICE!
3) Presidio laments Evolution's "lameness" for having spies. Again: Call Miami Vice.
* Interestingly enough, when JF made the complete conversation logs public, in response to that, the JF site suffered a sudden attack that pushed it off the net until it was moved off of the jerichofraction.net domain... EDIT: Another point of interest is that the alliance leaders in question claimed they were obtained via a JF director, however, why weren't the directorial section visible? Surely those leaders didn't lie to their own members?
(BTW, the alliance up there was none other than your own, Presidio. Tough luck.)
Seriously Presidio, espionage is a bit of the game called "government". That's part of the game called EVE. If you don't want to be part of that sub-game because it has elements you don't like, then don't. You can move to empire like any other that want to get away from it. Until you do that, you can accept it in the same way the peaceful miner going at the Jaspet in 0.1 systems has to accept that piracy is part of the game.
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2004.11.20 21:09:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Tatsue Nuko on 20/11/2004 21:14:43
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: Panzer [ Originally by: Presidio Yet again Evol demonstrates the only advantage they have and that's their use of spies. Lamest corp/guild I've seen in any MMO I played.
And this is comming from who? 
When did I ever spy/posted someone else's chat or forum logs?
How about your alliance? You throw a stone at all of Evolution, but you kind of forgot that the glass-house wall of your own alliance was in between...
As a refresher, which alliance is this:
1) The alliance posted screenshots from the internal JF forums, neatly positioned to make them suitably out-of-context.*
2) The alliance leaders and members start to whine when it becomes apparent that - OMFG! - NCA has spies in their midst! THE LAMEZOR! CALL MIAMI VICE!
3) Presidio laments Evolution's "lameness" for having spies. Again: Call Miami Vice.
* Interestingly enough, when JF made the complete conversation logs public, in response to that, the JF site suffered a sudden attack that pushed it off the net until it was moved off of the jerichofraction.net domain... EDIT: Another point of interest is that the alliance leaders in question claimed they were obtained via a JF director, however, why weren't the directorial section visible? Surely those leaders didn't lie to their own members?
(BTW, the alliance up there was none other than your own, Presidio. Tough luck.)
Seriously Presidio, espionage is a bit of the game called "government". That's part of the game called EVE. If you don't want to be part of that sub-game because it has elements you don't like, then don't. You can move to empire like any other that want to get away from it. Until you do that, you can accept it in the same way the peaceful miner going at the Jaspet in 0.1 systems has to accept that piracy is part of the game.
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Znaei
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Posted - 2004.11.20 21:09:00 -
[101]
Originally by: SirMolle
I didnt call the alliance warmongers, i called elements of the alliance warmongers.
Sure there are warmongers in nsa, there are warmongers everywhere. Hell Im sure there are ppl that like sheeps more than they should do, that doesnt mean the whole allience does!
clagnuts> im drunk just come back from pirates night in spain , wtf i thought it was some eve guys getting together for a drink , turned out to be a feken real pirates show , doh |

Znaei
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Posted - 2004.11.20 21:09:00 -
[102]
Originally by: SirMolle
I didnt call the alliance warmongers, i called elements of the alliance warmongers.
Sure there are warmongers in nsa, there are warmongers everywhere. Hell Im sure there are ppl that like sheeps more than they should do, that doesnt mean the whole allience does!
clagnuts> im drunk just come back from pirates night in spain , wtf i thought it was some eve guys getting together for a drink , turned out to be a feken real pirates show , doh |

Znaei
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Posted - 2004.11.20 21:31:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu Mankind has been spying since it's inception and since the first human civilization became reality on our home planet Earth some millennia ago.
It has always proven usfull to know about your enemies moves before they can make them, it's like chess, always be 2 steps infront of your adversary. Spies have been executed for ages now when discovered, often tortured to hell and back by their enemies to squeeze every drop of information out of them.
Why should that change now? Why should spies fear ignorant threats thrown at them by pettyfull alt's, who like a spy, doesn't give out their true identity?
I for one don't believe one second that Evolution nor BoB should even have to consider doing something 'illigal' (illigal in an OOC meaning) to achieve intelligence from any entity in Eve.
NSA/FU have been caught while attempting to attack Evolution, with no agression from Evolution's side, so now you must bear the consequenses.
Good luck... I guess 
Spys are only useful when they give the correct information. In this case, they didnt. Pls read my post few steps up.
clagnuts> im drunk just come back from pirates night in spain , wtf i thought it was some eve guys getting together for a drink , turned out to be a feken real pirates show , doh |

Znaei
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Posted - 2004.11.20 21:31:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu Mankind has been spying since it's inception and since the first human civilization became reality on our home planet Earth some millennia ago.
It has always proven usfull to know about your enemies moves before they can make them, it's like chess, always be 2 steps infront of your adversary. Spies have been executed for ages now when discovered, often tortured to hell and back by their enemies to squeeze every drop of information out of them.
Why should that change now? Why should spies fear ignorant threats thrown at them by pettyfull alt's, who like a spy, doesn't give out their true identity?
I for one don't believe one second that Evolution nor BoB should even have to consider doing something 'illigal' (illigal in an OOC meaning) to achieve intelligence from any entity in Eve.
NSA/FU have been caught while attempting to attack Evolution, with no agression from Evolution's side, so now you must bear the consequenses.
Good luck... I guess 
Spys are only useful when they give the correct information. In this case, they didnt. Pls read my post few steps up.
clagnuts> im drunk just come back from pirates night in spain , wtf i thought it was some eve guys getting together for a drink , turned out to be a feken real pirates show , doh |

Crimson Smith
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Posted - 2004.11.20 21:41:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu Mankind has been spying since it's inception and since the first human civilization became reality on our home planet Earth some millennia ago.
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No ****, eh Mas? 
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Crimson Smith
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Posted - 2004.11.20 21:41:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu Mankind has been spying since it's inception and since the first human civilization became reality on our home planet Earth some millennia ago.
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No ****, eh Mas? 
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.11.20 21:52:00 -
[107]
Whether or not something is against the EULA or the Forums TOS is up to the GM's or mods to decide.
I have removed all post pointing to such a discussion. That discussion does not belong on the forums.
Please keep this thread on topic.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |

Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.11.20 21:52:00 -
[108]
Whether or not something is against the EULA or the Forums TOS is up to the GM's or mods to decide.
I have removed all post pointing to such a discussion. That discussion does not belong on the forums.
Please keep this thread on topic.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |

Hawkings SJ
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Posted - 2004.11.20 22:08:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Sir Molle I didnt call the alliance warmongers, i called elements of the alliance warmongers.
So much irony, we have clearly exceeded our daily nutritional requirements.
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Hawkings SJ
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Posted - 2004.11.20 22:08:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Sir Molle I didnt call the alliance warmongers, i called elements of the alliance warmongers.
So much irony, we have clearly exceeded our daily nutritional requirements.
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Hawkings SJ
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Posted - 2004.11.20 22:10:00 -
[111]
Oh and Tatsue, fair enough spies are part of the game.
But do you agree with the BoB reasoning for going to war with the NSA / FU? Are they justified in your opinion?
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Hawkings SJ
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Posted - 2004.11.20 22:10:00 -
[112]
Oh and Tatsue, fair enough spies are part of the game.
But do you agree with the BoB reasoning for going to war with the NSA / FU? Are they justified in your opinion?
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.11.20 22:14:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu
NSA/FU have been caught while attempting to attack Evolution, with no agression from Evolution's side, so now you must bear the consequenses.
I knew we should have podded you 
As for this statement, why the bloody hell do you think we would attack Evol for no reason? That's their game, not ours.
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.11.20 22:14:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu
NSA/FU have been caught while attempting to attack Evolution, with no agression from Evolution's side, so now you must bear the consequenses.
I knew we should have podded you 
As for this statement, why the bloody hell do you think we would attack Evol for no reason? That's their game, not ours.
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Stan hyd
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Posted - 2004.11.20 22:19:00 -
[115]
Edited by: Stan hyd on 20/11/2004 22:21:48 guys in nsa
you got caught with it all showing to the public you voyeurs you.
guys all is fair in love and war every corp at the top of its game has certain members that lets say have split personalities STIZUM
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Stan hyd
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Posted - 2004.11.20 22:19:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Stan hyd on 20/11/2004 22:21:48 guys in nsa
you got caught with it all showing to the public you voyeurs you.
guys all is fair in love and war every corp at the top of its game has certain members that lets say have split personalities STIZUM
FACTA NON VERBA |

Archain
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Posted - 2004.11.20 22:25:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Presidio Yet again Evol demonstrates the only advantage they have and that's their use of spies. Lamest corp/guild I've seen in any MMO I played.
tbh PA are too stupid to spy. 
Space Invaders Movie Library - [SPVD]
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Archain
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Posted - 2004.11.20 22:25:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Presidio Yet again Evol demonstrates the only advantage they have and that's their use of spies. Lamest corp/guild I've seen in any MMO I played.
tbh PA are too stupid to spy. 
Space Invaders Movie Library - [SPVD]
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Zhuge Liang
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Posted - 2004.11.20 23:12:00 -
[119]
Ok one of the linked screen shots was removed. You may post relevant links to the topic from other forums but obviously you must not link anything to profanity or anything of that nature, even if you did not write it you are still responsible for posting an offending the link.
Issues to [email protected] not here!
Thread unlocked!

ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming) |

Zhuge Liang
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Posted - 2004.11.20 23:12:00 -
[120]
Ok one of the linked screen shots was removed. You may post relevant links to the topic from other forums but obviously you must not link anything to profanity or anything of that nature, even if you did not write it you are still responsible for posting an offending the link.
Issues to [email protected] not here!
Thread unlocked!

ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming) |
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.20 23:15:00 -
[121]
Best countermeasure against any threat is immidiate attack, that is basis of warfare.
You were making plans to attack us, question our authority, attack our friends, and most importantly, YOU FEELT STRONG ENOUGH TO DEFY US.
Live with your actions, die with your actions, you shouldnt be surprised what has happaned since you had talks about attacking us, you made plans to build up for an upcoming war against us.
We counterattacked, now you die, your alliances will call the war against PA a childsplay and you know it.
Happy cloning brought to you by Evolution.
Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.20 23:15:00 -
[122]
Best countermeasure against any threat is immidiate attack, that is basis of warfare.
You were making plans to attack us, question our authority, attack our friends, and most importantly, YOU FEELT STRONG ENOUGH TO DEFY US.
Live with your actions, die with your actions, you shouldnt be surprised what has happaned since you had talks about attacking us, you made plans to build up for an upcoming war against us.
We counterattacked, now you die, your alliances will call the war against PA a childsplay and you know it.
Happy cloning brought to you by Evolution.
Spawn of the Devil
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.11.20 23:34:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Omniwar Best countermeasure against any threat is immidiate attack, that is basis of warfare.
You were making plans to attack us, question our authority, attack our friends, and most importantly, YOU FEELT STRONG ENOUGH TO DEFY US.
Live with your actions, die with your actions, you shouldnt be surprised what has happaned since you had talks about attacking us, you made plans to build up for an upcoming war against us.
We counterattacked, now you die, your alliances will call the war against PA a childsplay and you know it.
Happy cloning brought to you by Evolution.
Ah Omniwar, you make I laugh. You know as well as everybody that there were no plans whatsoever to attack Evol. It would be rather naive to think that you weren't going to attack us, so contingency plans were all that were being discussed 
I suggest that if you intend to keep doing this spying (on your 'allies', may I add) that you hire some new spies, because they don't do a very good job.
We saw this coming from miles off, we aren't stupid 
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.11.20 23:34:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Omniwar Best countermeasure against any threat is immidiate attack, that is basis of warfare.
You were making plans to attack us, question our authority, attack our friends, and most importantly, YOU FEELT STRONG ENOUGH TO DEFY US.
Live with your actions, die with your actions, you shouldnt be surprised what has happaned since you had talks about attacking us, you made plans to build up for an upcoming war against us.
We counterattacked, now you die, your alliances will call the war against PA a childsplay and you know it.
Happy cloning brought to you by Evolution.
Ah Omniwar, you make I laugh. You know as well as everybody that there were no plans whatsoever to attack Evol. It would be rather naive to think that you weren't going to attack us, so contingency plans were all that were being discussed 
I suggest that if you intend to keep doing this spying (on your 'allies', may I add) that you hire some new spies, because they don't do a very good job.
We saw this coming from miles off, we aren't stupid 
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.11.20 23:59:00 -
[125]
Well bugger looks like we're off back to Fade again, it is a fun place to fight though.
Have fun in space kids and remember be nice to your neighbours 
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.11.20 23:59:00 -
[126]
Well bugger looks like we're off back to Fade again, it is a fun place to fight though.
Have fun in space kids and remember be nice to your neighbours 
Eve Blacklight Style
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:00:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Hawkings SJ Oh and Tatsue, fair enough spies are part of the game.
But do you agree with the BoB reasoning for going to war with the NSA / FU? Are they justified in your opinion?
I'm still trying to assemble the evidence (which is why I didn't comment on it in my earlier post). What I can say with what I know at this time is that I think it looks shifty, but I don't have a good grasp of the chain of events yet.
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:00:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Hawkings SJ Oh and Tatsue, fair enough spies are part of the game.
But do you agree with the BoB reasoning for going to war with the NSA / FU? Are they justified in your opinion?
I'm still trying to assemble the evidence (which is why I didn't comment on it in my earlier post). What I can say with what I know at this time is that I think it looks shifty, but I don't have a good grasp of the chain of events yet.
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Maiwenn LeBesc0
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:06:00 -
[129]
Quote: Evolution at this stage will have woken the sleeping dragon. (to anyone who didn't see the link it's us thats the dragon) BoB now has a serius problem.
Quote: NSA is a sleeping dragon? Who said that about us? That sounds cool.
eh heh heh heh. give anyone else the giggles?
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Maiwenn LeBesc0
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:06:00 -
[130]
Quote: Evolution at this stage will have woken the sleeping dragon. (to anyone who didn't see the link it's us thats the dragon) BoB now has a serius problem.
Quote: NSA is a sleeping dragon? Who said that about us? That sounds cool.
eh heh heh heh. give anyone else the giggles?
Evolution made me TOO LAZY to change my sig. |
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Buddrow
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:14:00 -
[131]
Too bad i am away for the weekend... will be seeing you soon molle, very soon ---------------------------------- "Give me but one firm spot on which to stand, and I will move earth." Archimedes c.287 - 212 BC
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Buddrow
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:14:00 -
[132]
Too bad i am away for the weekend... will be seeing you soon molle, very soon ---------------------------------- "Give me but one firm spot on which to stand, and I will move earth." Archimedes c.287 - 212 BC
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DIetDew
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:27:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Buddrow Too bad i am away for the weekend... will be seeing you soon molle, very soon
we see you already.
www.killboard.net
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DIetDew
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:27:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Buddrow Too bad i am away for the weekend... will be seeing you soon molle, very soon
we see you already.
www.killboard.net
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Phonix
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:32:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Buddrow Too bad i am away for the weekend... will be seeing you soon molle, very soon
ROFLLMFAO!!!
Hope you brought some Kryptonite with you 
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Phonix
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:32:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Buddrow Too bad i am away for the weekend... will be seeing you soon molle, very soon
ROFLLMFAO!!!
Hope you brought some Kryptonite with you 
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SILK EXIDE
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:46:00 -
[137]
Phonix, i think your great but you do have a tendancy to make yourself look silly on these forums...
the reason..
everyone knows the only reason you have asked Buddrow to bring along Kryptonite is so that he wont own your arse in combat...
You should know by now everyone knows he gets weak at the sight of that green luminous rock..
my advice read some comics...
SILK EXIDE
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SILK EXIDE
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:46:00 -
[138]
Phonix, i think your great but you do have a tendancy to make yourself look silly on these forums...
the reason..
everyone knows the only reason you have asked Buddrow to bring along Kryptonite is so that he wont own your arse in combat...
You should know by now everyone knows he gets weak at the sight of that green luminous rock..
my advice read some comics...
SILK EXIDE
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Defenzer
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Posted - 2004.11.21 01:00:00 -
[139]
Let's be honest everyone. Evol is and always has been a "bully" corp. They say they're not pirates, but always look for an excuse to attack people no matter how insignificant the reason is. They may have strong fleets, but they're code of ethics and willpower to refrain from being a$$holes is weak. You normally see that kind of behavior from boys just going through puberty.
As for NSA/FU, I don't know too terribly much about them. Always been non-confrontational when I've bumped into them.
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Defenzer
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Posted - 2004.11.21 01:00:00 -
[140]
Let's be honest everyone. Evol is and always has been a "bully" corp. They say they're not pirates, but always look for an excuse to attack people no matter how insignificant the reason is. They may have strong fleets, but they're code of ethics and willpower to refrain from being a$$holes is weak. You normally see that kind of behavior from boys just going through puberty.
As for NSA/FU, I don't know too terribly much about them. Always been non-confrontational when I've bumped into them.
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SILK EXIDE
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Posted - 2004.11.21 01:23:00 -
[141]
Now lets see how SirMolle came to the conclusion..
' Let's attack BoB/Evol '
was the goal of the NSA..
he has a spy gather info, or a spy goes to him with info.. if the alt character is that of a player with a grievance towards NSA then they have satisfaction to be gained from created a war.. or maybe they just want some pvp created in their backyard..
problem is the true context and outcome of the NSA forum discussion would read in its entirity like this..
'Let's prepare ourselves to defend our home... An attack from BoB/Evol may happen in the future because despite us having fought a common enemy in the past, as presumed allies, BoB/Evol dont appear to remember that. They have just flown through our home killing NSA pilots unprovoked. We cannot therefore count on BoB/Evol remaining non-hostile to us in the future.'
for those of you limited in your cerebral capacities to see beyond the tiresome garbage spouted by people who dont know the true story i have highlighted the info passed onto SirMolle by his spy in bold from the context it was taken..
believe what you will ..
even Molle himself knows i speak the truth ... if he doesnt then he doesnt have full access to our forum boards afterall.. but we wouldnt laugh at him for that ... maybe if he contacts me ingame i could arrange for his spy to get full access
SILK EXIDE Joint CEO INTG NSA Council
this is a personal post and not a NSA approved post the reason for this is i pay my subs to CCP and will post as and when i please... which isnt very often..
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SILK EXIDE
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Posted - 2004.11.21 01:23:00 -
[142]
Now lets see how SirMolle came to the conclusion..
' Let's attack BoB/Evol '
was the goal of the NSA..
he has a spy gather info, or a spy goes to him with info.. if the alt character is that of a player with a grievance towards NSA then they have satisfaction to be gained from created a war.. or maybe they just want some pvp created in their backyard..
problem is the true context and outcome of the NSA forum discussion would read in its entirity like this..
'Let's prepare ourselves to defend our home... An attack from BoB/Evol may happen in the future because despite us having fought a common enemy in the past, as presumed allies, BoB/Evol dont appear to remember that. They have just flown through our home killing NSA pilots unprovoked. We cannot therefore count on BoB/Evol remaining non-hostile to us in the future.'
for those of you limited in your cerebral capacities to see beyond the tiresome garbage spouted by people who dont know the true story i have highlighted the info passed onto SirMolle by his spy in bold from the context it was taken..
believe what you will ..
even Molle himself knows i speak the truth ... if he doesnt then he doesnt have full access to our forum boards afterall.. but we wouldnt laugh at him for that ... maybe if he contacts me ingame i could arrange for his spy to get full access
SILK EXIDE Joint CEO INTG NSA Council
this is a personal post and not a NSA approved post the reason for this is i pay my subs to CCP and will post as and when i please... which isnt very often..
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Phonix
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Posted - 2004.11.21 02:29:00 -
[143]
Originally by: SILK EXIDE Phonix, i think your great but you do have a tendancy to make yourself look silly on these forums...
the reason..
everyone knows the only reason you have asked Buddrow to bring along Kryptonite is so that he wont own your arse in combat...
You should know by now everyone knows he gets weak at the sight of that green luminous rock..
my advice read some comics...
SILK EXIDE
Sorry man wasnt much of a superman fan sorry...
And by the way what do you consider owning??
Do you want to compare kill list. For 2 corparations vs 2 alliances we can do it any day myfriend..
And secondly the only way you lot fight is if you outnumber the enemie and you know it..
I lost alot of respect for the guys in the north thats why we are attacking..
Your Smacking forum horror got sick of you sh!t up there.. It must be really bad 
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Phonix
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Posted - 2004.11.21 02:29:00 -
[144]
Originally by: SILK EXIDE Phonix, i think your great but you do have a tendancy to make yourself look silly on these forums...
the reason..
everyone knows the only reason you have asked Buddrow to bring along Kryptonite is so that he wont own your arse in combat...
You should know by now everyone knows he gets weak at the sight of that green luminous rock..
my advice read some comics...
SILK EXIDE
Sorry man wasnt much of a superman fan sorry...
And by the way what do you consider owning??
Do you want to compare kill list. For 2 corparations vs 2 alliances we can do it any day myfriend..
And secondly the only way you lot fight is if you outnumber the enemie and you know it..
I lost alot of respect for the guys in the north thats why we are attacking..
Your Smacking forum horror got sick of you sh!t up there.. It must be really bad 
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El Sayal
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Posted - 2004.11.21 02:35:00 -
[145]
Its one thing to plan a defence, and a completely different thing to plan a "pre-emptive strike" 
Death is certain, Life isn't. |

El Sayal
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Posted - 2004.11.21 02:35:00 -
[146]
Its one thing to plan a defence, and a completely different thing to plan a "pre-emptive strike" 
Death is certain, Life isn't. |

DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.11.21 02:56:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Presidio Yet again Evol demonstrates the only advantage they have and that's their use of spies. Lamest corp/guild I've seen in any MMO I played.
Only advantage? Missed a few:
Combat skills. Leadership. Logistics. Willpower.
Keep whining nublar. _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.11.21 02:56:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Presidio Yet again Evol demonstrates the only advantage they have and that's their use of spies. Lamest corp/guild I've seen in any MMO I played.
Only advantage? Missed a few:
Combat skills. Leadership. Logistics. Willpower.
Keep whining nublar. _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

Val Duane
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Posted - 2004.11.21 03:12:00 -
[149]
Our leet spying was 100% the reason for the way teh kill board looks for the last 2 days. Clearly we have no skills, but spiezd all these people to death!
BoB Kill Board
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Val Duane
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Posted - 2004.11.21 03:12:00 -
[150]
Our leet spying was 100% the reason for the way teh kill board looks for the last 2 days. Clearly we have no skills, but spiezd all these people to death!
BoB Kill Board
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.11.21 03:17:00 -
[151]
Everyone knows it is "Teh sp00n" that gives our 1337 powerz
All hail Teh mighty sp00n
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |

Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.11.21 03:17:00 -
[152]
Everyone knows it is "Teh sp00n" that gives our 1337 powerz
All hail Teh mighty sp00n
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |

agentsmitty
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Posted - 2004.11.21 03:22:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Aeoluz
Originally by: juel Now make sure and look for NSA at the right spots now. First and most likely spots are in roid fields mining as they can't interupt mining for a little ol war. Second good spot to find them is in stations. Ofcourse getting them to come out might be a problem.
Third is the very well known sps scattered through their system. Now they will get a blob together, but they do have to do important things first like ask back and forth who has what mod and so on for half an hour. Then ofcourse the leader has to be decided and this will have to be voted on. Once ready.."fear the NSA blob"
You are some kind of idiot. I have a few accounts, active in a number of alliances. Let me educate you. All warfare is the same, all tactics are the same, all people look for either numerical or tactical supremacy, all enemies childishly accuse the other of the things you childishly accuse the NSA of doing. HOWEVER ...
In your case, things a are a bit different - they have not even actually DONE anything yet, you are just pre-empting them using "lame tactics" as a kind of tiresome prescient one-upmanship.
Im kind of tired of inexperienced, illogical people like you trying to look smart on forums. Please never post again as I felt embarrased for you, and pity is something I hate.
Ok let me sort this out for you, AWM were in CoD for a few months, it was very disorganised, we had bad leadership, when our old representtive cavtrooper(who has now left the game) proposed new ideas like more military support in the form of a paid military and protection of the ROIR system(Which was PA's main entrance into deklein at the time) but they were all ignored, shot down or argued about until it was far too late. Whenever CoD managed to get a fleet of 5-6 or more ships together for defence of deklein, we would have people flyig scorps with tankng rather than EW, interceptors flying "safespot finding setups" with no warp scramblers fitted, a lot of people without teamspeak and a whole other variety of problems(Some people asked for training, but belani and co never followed it up) If it werent for UNICOR moving in and bailing CoD out of their imminent demise(when NSN and a bunch of other PA corps moved into 3jn) they would have crumbled within a week.
Is it any better now? they have had a few months to work on their abilities, they have been unchallenged in their ownership of deklein, but have they improved?
Juel is 100% correct, this is what happened the whole time we were in cod, i have no idea who you are, some n00b who doesnt know a thing about the situation in the north probably, the simple truth is, BoB will blow NSA out of the water, they will end up with a very low amount of numbers in deklein while their smaller yet much more skillful enemy does whatever they like with their space.
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agentsmitty
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Posted - 2004.11.21 03:22:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Aeoluz
Originally by: juel Now make sure and look for NSA at the right spots now. First and most likely spots are in roid fields mining as they can't interupt mining for a little ol war. Second good spot to find them is in stations. Ofcourse getting them to come out might be a problem.
Third is the very well known sps scattered through their system. Now they will get a blob together, but they do have to do important things first like ask back and forth who has what mod and so on for half an hour. Then ofcourse the leader has to be decided and this will have to be voted on. Once ready.."fear the NSA blob"
You are some kind of idiot. I have a few accounts, active in a number of alliances. Let me educate you. All warfare is the same, all tactics are the same, all people look for either numerical or tactical supremacy, all enemies childishly accuse the other of the things you childishly accuse the NSA of doing. HOWEVER ...
In your case, things a are a bit different - they have not even actually DONE anything yet, you are just pre-empting them using "lame tactics" as a kind of tiresome prescient one-upmanship.
Im kind of tired of inexperienced, illogical people like you trying to look smart on forums. Please never post again as I felt embarrased for you, and pity is something I hate.
Ok let me sort this out for you, AWM were in CoD for a few months, it was very disorganised, we had bad leadership, when our old representtive cavtrooper(who has now left the game) proposed new ideas like more military support in the form of a paid military and protection of the ROIR system(Which was PA's main entrance into deklein at the time) but they were all ignored, shot down or argued about until it was far too late. Whenever CoD managed to get a fleet of 5-6 or more ships together for defence of deklein, we would have people flyig scorps with tankng rather than EW, interceptors flying "safespot finding setups" with no warp scramblers fitted, a lot of people without teamspeak and a whole other variety of problems(Some people asked for training, but belani and co never followed it up) If it werent for UNICOR moving in and bailing CoD out of their imminent demise(when NSN and a bunch of other PA corps moved into 3jn) they would have crumbled within a week.
Is it any better now? they have had a few months to work on their abilities, they have been unchallenged in their ownership of deklein, but have they improved?
Juel is 100% correct, this is what happened the whole time we were in cod, i have no idea who you are, some n00b who doesnt know a thing about the situation in the north probably, the simple truth is, BoB will blow NSA out of the water, they will end up with a very low amount of numbers in deklein while their smaller yet much more skillful enemy does whatever they like with their space.
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Galaxion
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Posted - 2004.11.21 03:28:00 -
[155]
/me looks at Val Duane's sig. RRIiiiigggghhhhhtt. So it was you who got the final blow. I have to admit I was like "WTF" when it appeared that you called a frig-lookalike primary target.
Both sides played well tonight. I can only hope this war is fun, and flame-free. Hope to see you guys in battle (murmurs something about after he has gained the isk for a new ship) soon enough. May the best people (i.e. US) win.
****************DISLCAIMER****************** This is a biased post and is not in any way associated, affiliated or endorsed by any member of the Northern Star Alliance (except me). I exert the right to edit this post at any time, and I reserve the right to attach blocks of c4 to your ships. Muahahaha ----------------------------------------- Everlasting Vendetta PVP Commander, yarr
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Galaxion
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Posted - 2004.11.21 03:28:00 -
[156]
/me looks at Val Duane's sig. RRIiiiigggghhhhhtt. So it was you who got the final blow. I have to admit I was like "WTF" when it appeared that you called a frig-lookalike primary target.
Both sides played well tonight. I can only hope this war is fun, and flame-free. Hope to see you guys in battle (murmurs something about after he has gained the isk for a new ship) soon enough. May the best people (i.e. US) win.
****************DISLCAIMER****************** This is a biased post and is not in any way associated, affiliated or endorsed by any member of the Northern Star Alliance (except me). I exert the right to edit this post at any time, and I reserve the right to attach blocks of c4 to your ships. Muahahaha ----------------------------------------- Everlasting Vendetta PVP Commander, yarr
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Buddrow
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Posted - 2004.11.21 03:57:00 -
[157]
Edited by: Buddrow on 21/11/2004 04:50:06 Edited by: Buddrow on 21/11/2004 04:13:39
Originally by: agentsmitty
Originally by: Aeoluz
Originally by: juel Now make sure and look for NSA at the right spots now. First and most likely spots are in roid fields mining as they can't interupt mining for a little ol war. Second good spot to find them is in stations. Ofcourse getting them to come out might be a problem.
Third is the very well known sps scattered through their system. Now they will get a blob together, but they do have to do important things first like ask back and forth who has what mod and so on for half an hour. Then ofcourse the leader has to be decided and this will have to be voted on. Once ready.."fear the NSA blob"
You are some kind of idiot. I have a few accounts, active in a number of alliances. Let me educate you. All warfare is the same, all tactics are the same, all people look for either numerical or tactical supremacy, all enemies childishly accuse the other of the things you childishly accuse the NSA of doing. HOWEVER ...
In your case, things a are a bit different - they have not even actually DONE anything yet, you are just pre-empting them using "lame tactics" as a kind of tiresome prescient one-upmanship.
Im kind of tired of inexperienced, illogical people like you trying to look smart on forums. Please never post again as I felt embarrased for you, and pity is something I hate.
Ok let me sort this out for you, AWM were in CoD for a few months, it was very disorganised, we had bad leadership, when our old representtive cavtrooper(who has now left the game) proposed new ideas like more military support in the form of a paid military and protection of the ROIR system(Which was PA's main entrance into deklein at the time) but they were all ignored, shot down or argued about until it was far too late. Whenever CoD managed to get a fleet of 5-6 or more ships together for defence of deklein, we would have people flyig scorps with tankng rather than EW, interceptors flying "safespot finding setups" with no warp scramblers fitted, a lot of people without teamspeak and a whole other variety of problems(Some people asked for training, but belani and co never followed it up) If it werent for UNICOR moving in and bailing CoD out of their imminent demise(when NSN and a bunch of other PA corps moved into 3jn) they would have crumbled within a week.
Is it any better now? they have had a few months to work on their abilities, they have been unchallenged in their ownership of deklein, but have they improved?
Juel is 100% correct, this is what happened the whole time we were in cod, i have no idea who you are, some n00b who doesnt know a thing about the situation in the north probably, the simple truth is, BoB will blow NSA out of the water, they will end up with a very low amount of numbers in deklein while their smaller yet much more skillful enemy does whatever they like with their space.
your a joke. yes COD had problems, but if you think COD was bailed out of the PA war by unicor.... your simply a joke. if you think we will crumble thats fine, thats your views, i have mine and time will tell. but you have no right spreading lies, COD Never was bailed out in the PA war by ANYONE other than BNC... which helped us alot...further than that do not try to delute the blood that was paid.
To Sirmolle
First off SirMolle, yes youÆre right we were prepairing to defend ourselves. But while some spoke with anger towards Evol others did not, everyone has views and views do not hold a substance for war like you claim they do. We were not going to attack BoB or Evolution, we were dealing with Atuk attacking us in Deklien, funny huh yes part of your alliance openly attacking us, but then again your not responsible for that are you because its outside of your area. We did these preparations because we believed you were going to do, exactly what you are doing. Were we right in what we did...?yea I think we were, If you have access to our forums pull off the posts that reply to all those ones you posted. You can justify it to Eve all you want, but I know and you know that there was intention to attack us on your side and intention to prepare ourselves to defend on our side. Apparently you have been given far more leeway than you should have been given. I personally respect you but your attempted justification may work on those who donÆt see the whole situation, but it will not work on me or my men or our alliance. Evolution just confirmed what I already knew. DonÆt think we will concede, smack will get us no where, so I will say only.
Good luck
---------------------------------- "Give me but one firm spot on which to stand, and I will move earth." Archimedes c.287 - 212 BC
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Buddrow
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Posted - 2004.11.21 03:57:00 -
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Edited by: Buddrow on 21/11/2004 04:50:06 Edited by: Buddrow on 21/11/2004 04:13:39
Originally by: agentsmitty
Originally by: Aeoluz
Originally by: juel Now make sure and look for NSA at the right spots now. First and most likely spots are in roid fields mining as they can't interupt mining for a little ol war. Second good spot to find them is in stations. Ofcourse getting them to come out might be a problem.
Third is the very well known sps scattered through their system. Now they will get a blob together, but they do have to do important things first like ask back and forth who has what mod and so on for half an hour. Then ofcourse the leader has to be decided and this will have to be voted on. Once ready.."fear the NSA blob"
You are some kind of idiot. I have a few accounts, active in a number of alliances. Let me educate you. All warfare is the same, all tactics are the same, all people look for either numerical or tactical supremacy, all enemies childishly accuse the other of the things you childishly accuse the NSA of doing. HOWEVER ...
In your case, things a are a bit different - they have not even actually DONE anything yet, you are just pre-empting them using "lame tactics" as a kind of tiresome prescient one-upmanship.
Im kind of tired of inexperienced, illogical people like you trying to look smart on forums. Please never post again as I felt embarrased for you, and pity is something I hate.
Ok let me sort this out for you, AWM were in CoD for a few months, it was very disorganised, we had bad leadership, when our old representtive cavtrooper(who has now left the game) proposed new ideas like more military support in the form of a paid military and protection of the ROIR system(Which was PA's main entrance into deklein at the time) but they were all ignored, shot down or argued about until it was far too late. Whenever CoD managed to get a fleet of 5-6 or more ships together for defence of deklein, we would have people flyig scorps with tankng rather than EW, interceptors flying "safespot finding setups" with no warp scramblers fitted, a lot of people without teamspeak and a whole other variety of problems(Some people asked for training, but belani and co never followed it up) If it werent for UNICOR moving in and bailing CoD out of their imminent demise(when NSN and a bunch of other PA corps moved into 3jn) they would have crumbled within a week.
Is it any better now? they have had a few months to work on their abilities, they have been unchallenged in their ownership of deklein, but have they improved?
Juel is 100% correct, this is what happened the whole time we were in cod, i have no idea who you are, some n00b who doesnt know a thing about the situation in the north probably, the simple truth is, BoB will blow NSA out of the water, they will end up with a very low amount of numbers in deklein while their smaller yet much more skillful enemy does whatever they like with their space.
your a joke. yes COD had problems, but if you think COD was bailed out of the PA war by unicor.... your simply a joke. if you think we will crumble thats fine, thats your views, i have mine and time will tell. but you have no right spreading lies, COD Never was bailed out in the PA war by ANYONE other than BNC... which helped us alot...further than that do not try to delute the blood that was paid.
To Sirmolle
First off SirMolle, yes youÆre right we were prepairing to defend ourselves. But while some spoke with anger towards Evol others did not, everyone has views and views do not hold a substance for war like you claim they do. We were not going to attack BoB or Evolution, we were dealing with Atuk attacking us in Deklien, funny huh yes part of your alliance openly attacking us, but then again your not responsible for that are you because its outside of your area. We did these preparations because we believed you were going to do, exactly what you are doing. Were we right in what we did...?yea I think we were, If you have access to our forums pull off the posts that reply to all those ones you posted. You can justify it to Eve all you want, but I know and you know that there was intention to attack us on your side and intention to prepare ourselves to defend on our side. Apparently you have been given far more leeway than you should have been given. I personally respect you but your attempted justification may work on those who donÆt see the whole situation, but it will not work on me or my men or our alliance. Evolution just confirmed what I already knew. DonÆt think we will concede, smack will get us no where, so I will say only.
Good luck
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.11.21 05:00:00 -
[159]
Edited by: ProphetGuru on 21/11/2004 06:02:01
Originally by: Buddrow
First off SirMolle, yes youÆre right we were prepairing to defend ourselves.
No offense, but it didn't seem to work out so well. 
clicky
edited comment on amount due some of our kills being pa/ca/fa ove the last 24hrs.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.11.21 05:00:00 -
[160]
Edited by: ProphetGuru on 21/11/2004 06:02:01
Originally by: Buddrow
First off SirMolle, yes youÆre right we were prepairing to defend ourselves.
No offense, but it didn't seem to work out so well. 
clicky
edited comment on amount due some of our kills being pa/ca/fa ove the last 24hrs.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Morela
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Posted - 2004.11.21 05:53:00 -
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Edited by: Morela on 21/11/2004 05:59:30
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu Mankind has been spying since it's inception and since the first human civilization became reality on our home planet Earth some millennia ago.
It has always proven usfull to know about your enemies moves before they can make them, it's like chess, always be 2 steps infront of your adversary. Spies have been executed for ages now when discovered, often tortured to hell and back by their enemies to squeeze every drop of information out of them.
Why should that change now? Why should spies fear ignorant threats thrown at them by pettyfull alt's, who like a spy, doesn't give out their true identity?
I for one don't believe one second that Evolution nor BoB should even have to consider doing something 'illigal' (illigal in an OOC meaning) to achieve intelligence from any entity in Eve.
NSA/FU have been caught while attempting to attack Evolution, with no agression from Evolution's side, so now you must bear the consequenses.
Good luck... I guess 
For the last time. The NSA NEVER planed for a first strike vs Bob. Did we make plans in case you attacked us? Yes. Did we start production on war supplies for said war? Of COURSE. We saw you attacking everyone and there friggin mothers in eve, and if you think there's not another alliance in this game who isn't preparing for you. Then you're kidding yourself. And you know there have been elements of your alliance who have been just BEGGING for a war with NSA? Should we count that as you planning to invade us? My god man people talk, people *****, and people get ****ed off and say lets kill who ever is ****ing them off. But does it actually happen? No usually not. Saying that that the NSA was gonna "teach bob a lesson" and attack first. Attack what?! You don't even own any space really. Nobody can kill someone who doesn't have a home. Hell ,you can't even kill PA.....
You can't have it both ways.. You call us carebears, and then you call us warmongers. Umm which is it?
If you want to go out and have some fun attacking people, get into battles, gank squads, FINE just friggin be honest about it. Don't try and do the same thing you've done to every alliance you've attacked in this game by saying "They started it" We didn't start this. I don't ever recall seeing a FA or CA fleet in branch invading the space that you claimed. But you decided that they made a good reason to invade them.
Christ! I can't stand it. Besides.. By now I don't think there's anyone in eve who would believe your reasons for attacking us... You wanted to attack FU, we weren't gonna stay out of it. So you attacked us both. End of story, end of discussion, end of the lies.
If your gonna lie, at least come up with some new ones...
Besides, we're lookin forward to it now.. So bring it. :)
Edit - 45 Battleships in 12 hours? lol umm ya.. sure.. right.. whatever you say there pally :)Not from my gang there wasn't. We prolly only had 12 battleships in our gang total. Donno what you did to FU in the morning.. but eh 
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Morela
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Posted - 2004.11.21 05:53:00 -
[162]
Edited by: Morela on 21/11/2004 05:59:30
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu Mankind has been spying since it's inception and since the first human civilization became reality on our home planet Earth some millennia ago.
It has always proven usfull to know about your enemies moves before they can make them, it's like chess, always be 2 steps infront of your adversary. Spies have been executed for ages now when discovered, often tortured to hell and back by their enemies to squeeze every drop of information out of them.
Why should that change now? Why should spies fear ignorant threats thrown at them by pettyfull alt's, who like a spy, doesn't give out their true identity?
I for one don't believe one second that Evolution nor BoB should even have to consider doing something 'illigal' (illigal in an OOC meaning) to achieve intelligence from any entity in Eve.
NSA/FU have been caught while attempting to attack Evolution, with no agression from Evolution's side, so now you must bear the consequenses.
Good luck... I guess 
For the last time. The NSA NEVER planed for a first strike vs Bob. Did we make plans in case you attacked us? Yes. Did we start production on war supplies for said war? Of COURSE. We saw you attacking everyone and there friggin mothers in eve, and if you think there's not another alliance in this game who isn't preparing for you. Then you're kidding yourself. And you know there have been elements of your alliance who have been just BEGGING for a war with NSA? Should we count that as you planning to invade us? My god man people talk, people *****, and people get ****ed off and say lets kill who ever is ****ing them off. But does it actually happen? No usually not. Saying that that the NSA was gonna "teach bob a lesson" and attack first. Attack what?! You don't even own any space really. Nobody can kill someone who doesn't have a home. Hell ,you can't even kill PA.....
You can't have it both ways.. You call us carebears, and then you call us warmongers. Umm which is it?
If you want to go out and have some fun attacking people, get into battles, gank squads, FINE just friggin be honest about it. Don't try and do the same thing you've done to every alliance you've attacked in this game by saying "They started it" We didn't start this. I don't ever recall seeing a FA or CA fleet in branch invading the space that you claimed. But you decided that they made a good reason to invade them.
Christ! I can't stand it. Besides.. By now I don't think there's anyone in eve who would believe your reasons for attacking us... You wanted to attack FU, we weren't gonna stay out of it. So you attacked us both. End of story, end of discussion, end of the lies.
If your gonna lie, at least come up with some new ones...
Besides, we're lookin forward to it now.. So bring it. :)
Edit - 45 Battleships in 12 hours? lol umm ya.. sure.. right.. whatever you say there pally :)Not from my gang there wasn't. We prolly only had 12 battleships in our gang total. Donno what you did to FU in the morning.. but eh 
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.11.21 05:59:00 -
[163]
Me waves :)
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.11.21 05:59:00 -
[164]
Me waves :)
Eve Blacklight Style
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.21 06:06:00 -
[165]
Edited by: Luc Boye on 21/11/2004 06:09:21
Originally by: Morela Nobody can kill someone who doesn't have a home. Hell ,you can't even kill PA.....
Bold statement from the guys who capitulated to PA. --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.21 06:06:00 -
[166]
Edited by: Luc Boye on 21/11/2004 06:09:21
Originally by: Morela Nobody can kill someone who doesn't have a home. Hell ,you can't even kill PA.....
Bold statement from the guys who capitulated to PA. --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

BloodRaven2
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Posted - 2004.11.21 06:11:00 -
[167]
Edited by: BloodRaven2 on 21/11/2004 06:15:25 Edited by: BloodRaven2 on 21/11/2004 06:14:46 Here is my 2 cents.
BoB: What are they, they are 365/24/7/ PVPers. Thats what they do for fun. And they are extrimely good at it and just might be one of the toughest group of PVPers in EVE. At this point they dont care about claiming regions, they just want to get a fight,
NSA/FU: Those guys are what i will call a General Alliance. They dont PVP 24/7, rather hunt/mine/pvp at their region of Deklein and Fade. They do have some very experienced fighters. From what i see all members will fight anyone who comes to their region, considering that they might not be as experienced.
However i give my props to them to actually fighting and getting kills. They will suffer losses and so will Bob. Only time will show who will end up on top.
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BloodRaven2
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Posted - 2004.11.21 06:11:00 -
[168]
Edited by: BloodRaven2 on 21/11/2004 06:15:25 Edited by: BloodRaven2 on 21/11/2004 06:14:46 Here is my 2 cents.
BoB: What are they, they are 365/24/7/ PVPers. Thats what they do for fun. And they are extrimely good at it and just might be one of the toughest group of PVPers in EVE. At this point they dont care about claiming regions, they just want to get a fight,
NSA/FU: Those guys are what i will call a General Alliance. They dont PVP 24/7, rather hunt/mine/pvp at their region of Deklein and Fade. They do have some very experienced fighters. From what i see all members will fight anyone who comes to their region, considering that they might not be as experienced.
However i give my props to them to actually fighting and getting kills. They will suffer losses and so will Bob. Only time will show who will end up on top.
Keep it clean, keep it fun guys. |

Lord Cyric
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Posted - 2004.11.21 06:50:00 -
[169]
Originally by: BloodRaven2 Edited by: BloodRaven2 on 21/11/2004 06:15:25 Edited by: BloodRaven2 on 21/11/2004 06:14:46 Here is my 2 cents.
BoB: What are they, they are 365/24/7/ PVPers. Thats what they do for fun. And they are extrimely good at it and just might be one of the toughest group of PVPers in EVE. At this point they dont care about claiming regions, they just want to get a fight,
NSA/FU: Those guys are what i will call a General Alliance. They dont PVP 24/7, rather hunt/mine/pvp at their region of Deklein and Fade. They do have some very experienced fighters. From what i see all members will fight anyone who comes to their region, considering that they might not be as experienced.
However i give my props to them to actually fighting and getting kills. They will suffer losses and so will Bob. Only time will show who will end up on top.
Keep it clean, keep it fun guys.
Best post in 5 pages and pretty much spot on. Let's leave out the "We will own you....no we are ub3r....you guys started it....no you guys did" crap out of it. Everyone involved knows it's been building for a while, one frigate, or some posts on the forum didn't start this war. Who cares, let's have fun and play the game, that's what it's supposed to be about.
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Lord Cyric
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Posted - 2004.11.21 06:50:00 -
[170]
Originally by: BloodRaven2 Edited by: BloodRaven2 on 21/11/2004 06:15:25 Edited by: BloodRaven2 on 21/11/2004 06:14:46 Here is my 2 cents.
BoB: What are they, they are 365/24/7/ PVPers. Thats what they do for fun. And they are extrimely good at it and just might be one of the toughest group of PVPers in EVE. At this point they dont care about claiming regions, they just want to get a fight,
NSA/FU: Those guys are what i will call a General Alliance. They dont PVP 24/7, rather hunt/mine/pvp at their region of Deklein and Fade. They do have some very experienced fighters. From what i see all members will fight anyone who comes to their region, considering that they might not be as experienced.
However i give my props to them to actually fighting and getting kills. They will suffer losses and so will Bob. Only time will show who will end up on top.
Keep it clean, keep it fun guys.
Best post in 5 pages and pretty much spot on. Let's leave out the "We will own you....no we are ub3r....you guys started it....no you guys did" crap out of it. Everyone involved knows it's been building for a while, one frigate, or some posts on the forum didn't start this war. Who cares, let's have fun and play the game, that's what it's supposed to be about.
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SageOfMystery
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Posted - 2004.11.21 07:49:00 -
[171]
interesting
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SageOfMystery
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Posted - 2004.11.21 07:49:00 -
[172]
interesting
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:19:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Morela
You can't have it both ways.. You call us carebears, and then you call us warmongers. Umm which is it?
Why not both ?
Warmongering Carebears 
ps, its a joke, dont get your nickers in a noch over it now you hear  Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:19:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Morela
You can't have it both ways.. You call us carebears, and then you call us warmongers. Umm which is it?
Why not both ?
Warmongering Carebears 
ps, its a joke, dont get your nickers in a noch over it now you hear  Spawn of the Devil
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Morela
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:53:00 -
[175]
Edited by: Morela on 21/11/2004 09:56:18
Originally by: Omniwar
Originally by: Morela
You can't have it both ways.. You call us carebears, and then you call us warmongers. Umm which is it?
Why not both ?
Warmongering Carebears 
ps, its a joke, dont get your nickers in a noch over it now you hear 
Smile... Or die a slow lingering death... 
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Morela
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:53:00 -
[176]
Edited by: Morela on 21/11/2004 09:56:18
Originally by: Omniwar
Originally by: Morela
You can't have it both ways.. You call us carebears, and then you call us warmongers. Umm which is it?
Why not both ?
Warmongering Carebears 
ps, its a joke, dont get your nickers in a noch over it now you hear 
Smile... Or die a slow lingering death... 
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Statics
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:09:00 -
[177]
Originally by: geewiz emote looks at BoB butt kissers and well known spammers of vitriol towards NSA aka AWM
AWM is a trademark of Armed War Monkeys LLC and may not be used in connection with any alliance, service, or disinformation without the express written permission of Armed War Monkeys.
Have a nice day.
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Statics
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:09:00 -
[178]
Originally by: geewiz emote looks at BoB butt kissers and well known spammers of vitriol towards NSA aka AWM
AWM is a trademark of Armed War Monkeys LLC and may not be used in connection with any alliance, service, or disinformation without the express written permission of Armed War Monkeys.
Have a nice day.
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Malken
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:34:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Statics
Originally by: geewiz emote looks at BoB butt kissers and well known spammers of vitriol towards NSA aka AWM
AWM is a trademark of Armed War Monkeys LLC and may not be used in connection with any alliance, service, or disinformation without the express written permission of Armed War Monkeys.
Have a nice day.
lol tough i just registered A.W.M so you can stop using my trademark now 
/end sarcasm
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Malken
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:34:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Statics
Originally by: geewiz emote looks at BoB butt kissers and well known spammers of vitriol towards NSA aka AWM
AWM is a trademark of Armed War Monkeys LLC and may not be used in connection with any alliance, service, or disinformation without the express written permission of Armed War Monkeys.
Have a nice day.
lol tough i just registered A.W.M so you can stop using my trademark now 
/end sarcasm
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:13:00 -
[181]
I like CoD fishing tbh ---------------
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:13:00 -
[182]
I like CoD fishing tbh ---------------
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Li ShangYin
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:41:00 -
[183]
Chung Kuo 23hour analysis dt saturday - dt sunday.
Bship kills compiled, data from www.killboard.net.(if NSA/FU have a similar open killboard it would obviously be useful to know location of such killboard.) :
SUNDAY sunday BoB : 01:17 K4YZ-Y Uther Agnoius Black Nova Corp Armageddon
sunday FU : 04:08 EC-P8R Anexian RUS-SAGA Dominix
sunday NSA : 08:52 O1Y-ED Sregnar Everlasting... Raven 08:40 K4YZ-Y Hamiller Payne Cho'Arrim... Dominix 03:53 E3UY-6 Tor Drakt'hal AUS Corporation Apocalypse 03:37 CZDJ-1 Paxdrago C22 Tempest 02:01 K4YZ-Y Tr4XX Millennium Raven 01:53 K4YZ-Y Jungle Jim Millennium Apocalypse 01:17 K4YZ-Y Minnow maught AUS Corporation Megathron 01:13 K4YZ-Y Rajun GalacTECH... Raven 01:11 K4YZ-Y Gravedancer VentureCorp Scorpion 01:03 K4YZ-Y Eutectic VentureCorp Scorpion
SATURDAY saturday BoB : 21:13 UJY-HE Cassiopee Evolution Tempest
saturday FU :
saturday NSA : 23:30 CZDJ-1 Aleis Playboy... Tempest 22:39 UJY-HE Taffun E X O D U S Typhoon 21:17 UJY-HE Captain Sonic P E G A S U S ... Armageddon 21:17 UJY-HE Alexandra Belani VentureCorp Armageddon 21:16 UJY-HE LordChaos Everlasting... Armageddon 21:15 UJY-HE EvilSyKOSkitzo AUS Corporation Scorpion 21:15 UJY-HE Kryztal VentureCorp Raven 21:14 UJY-HE Hampstah Everlasting... Scorpion 21:13 UJY-HE Darko1107 E X O D U S Armageddon 21:13 UJY-HE Sregnar Everlasting... Scorpion 21:12 UJY-HE Blackpanter VentureCorp Scorpion
23 hour period, totaling at : Bships lost : BoB : 2 FU : 1 NSA : 21
We can see 2 larger battles occuring at 21:12-21:17 in UJY-HE(1 BoB lost vs. 9 NSA) and another some hours later at 01:03-01:17 in K4YZ-Y(1 BoB lost vs. 1 FU and 4 NSA). The K4YZ-Y situation seems to continue with 2 more NSA bships downed during the same hour. Since we are still less than 12 hours from that battle the data is most likely not complete with people crashing, going to bed and so forth. The Battle in K4YZ-Y also shows 2 Maller, 1 Crow and 1 Crusader and 1 pod lost for BoB. FU non bship losses count to 1 Omen, 1 Rifter and 2 Kestrel, with 1 Claw killed in the aftermath. NSA losses are larger, as the Bship kills aswell showed. 1 Rifter, 3 Maller, 1 Griffin, 2 Kestrel, 1 Caracal, 1 Executioner, 1 Thorax, 1 Rupture in the initial battle and 1 Ares, 1 Rupture, 1 Thorax, 1 Wolf, 2 Rifter, 2 Kestrel in the aftermath.
Obviously comments from both sides would be welcome, as would fraps if anyone was able to get more than 1 fps. Numbers for both sides are also missing right now.
___________________________________ A spring day at the edge of the world. On the edge of the world once more the day slants. The oriole cries, as though it were its own tears Which damp even the topmost blossoms on the tree.
-- Li Shang-yin, Exile, ninth century A.D. |

Li ShangYin
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:41:00 -
[184]
Chung Kuo 23hour analysis dt saturday - dt sunday.
Bship kills compiled, data from www.killboard.net.(if NSA/FU have a similar open killboard it would obviously be useful to know location of such killboard.) :
SUNDAY sunday BoB : 01:17 K4YZ-Y Uther Agnoius Black Nova Corp Armageddon
sunday FU : 04:08 EC-P8R Anexian RUS-SAGA Dominix
sunday NSA : 08:52 O1Y-ED Sregnar Everlasting... Raven 08:40 K4YZ-Y Hamiller Payne Cho'Arrim... Dominix 03:53 E3UY-6 Tor Drakt'hal AUS Corporation Apocalypse 03:37 CZDJ-1 Paxdrago C22 Tempest 02:01 K4YZ-Y Tr4XX Millennium Raven 01:53 K4YZ-Y Jungle Jim Millennium Apocalypse 01:17 K4YZ-Y Minnow maught AUS Corporation Megathron 01:13 K4YZ-Y Rajun GalacTECH... Raven 01:11 K4YZ-Y Gravedancer VentureCorp Scorpion 01:03 K4YZ-Y Eutectic VentureCorp Scorpion
SATURDAY saturday BoB : 21:13 UJY-HE Cassiopee Evolution Tempest
saturday FU :
saturday NSA : 23:30 CZDJ-1 Aleis Playboy... Tempest 22:39 UJY-HE Taffun E X O D U S Typhoon 21:17 UJY-HE Captain Sonic P E G A S U S ... Armageddon 21:17 UJY-HE Alexandra Belani VentureCorp Armageddon 21:16 UJY-HE LordChaos Everlasting... Armageddon 21:15 UJY-HE EvilSyKOSkitzo AUS Corporation Scorpion 21:15 UJY-HE Kryztal VentureCorp Raven 21:14 UJY-HE Hampstah Everlasting... Scorpion 21:13 UJY-HE Darko1107 E X O D U S Armageddon 21:13 UJY-HE Sregnar Everlasting... Scorpion 21:12 UJY-HE Blackpanter VentureCorp Scorpion
23 hour period, totaling at : Bships lost : BoB : 2 FU : 1 NSA : 21
We can see 2 larger battles occuring at 21:12-21:17 in UJY-HE(1 BoB lost vs. 9 NSA) and another some hours later at 01:03-01:17 in K4YZ-Y(1 BoB lost vs. 1 FU and 4 NSA). The K4YZ-Y situation seems to continue with 2 more NSA bships downed during the same hour. Since we are still less than 12 hours from that battle the data is most likely not complete with people crashing, going to bed and so forth. The Battle in K4YZ-Y also shows 2 Maller, 1 Crow and 1 Crusader and 1 pod lost for BoB. FU non bship losses count to 1 Omen, 1 Rifter and 2 Kestrel, with 1 Claw killed in the aftermath. NSA losses are larger, as the Bship kills aswell showed. 1 Rifter, 3 Maller, 1 Griffin, 2 Kestrel, 1 Caracal, 1 Executioner, 1 Thorax, 1 Rupture in the initial battle and 1 Ares, 1 Rupture, 1 Thorax, 1 Wolf, 2 Rifter, 2 Kestrel in the aftermath.
Obviously comments from both sides would be welcome, as would fraps if anyone was able to get more than 1 fps. Numbers for both sides are also missing right now.
___________________________________ A spring day at the edge of the world. On the edge of the world once more the day slants. The oriole cries, as though it were its own tears Which damp even the topmost blossoms on the tree.
-- Li Shang-yin, Exile, ninth century A.D. |

Darko1107
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:06:00 -
[185]
If you only lost 2 BS the whole 5 or so hours you were in our space last night going up and down, why did u run at the end?
Anyway, the simple question is:
Who attack NSA in NSA space about 4 weeks ago, EVOL, then you said sorry and we ceased all hostilies against you, but, we knew that you would strike 1 day, so we prepared for war.
DID NSA EVER ATTACK EVOL IN BRANCH? NO
Who started the war: EVOL, like every other war they have started.
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:06:00 -
[186]
If you only lost 2 BS the whole 5 or so hours you were in our space last night going up and down, why did u run at the end?
Anyway, the simple question is:
Who attack NSA in NSA space about 4 weeks ago, EVOL, then you said sorry and we ceased all hostilies against you, but, we knew that you would strike 1 day, so we prepared for war.
DID NSA EVER ATTACK EVOL IN BRANCH? NO
Who started the war: EVOL, like every other war they have started.
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Mankind mkII
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:14:00 -
[187]
****MY OPINIONS ONLY NOT MILLENNIUMS OR NSA ****
Guys give it up we are at war with BoB now doesnt matter how much u post on these forums it aint going to change the fact that we are at war.Personally i dont want to be at war with BoB as I/we (millennium) have been close to rkk from the start but as it is its a game we are all here to have fun so lets just go out there have fun and enjoy ourselves.
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Mankind mkII
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:14:00 -
[188]
****MY OPINIONS ONLY NOT MILLENNIUMS OR NSA ****
Guys give it up we are at war with BoB now doesnt matter how much u post on these forums it aint going to change the fact that we are at war.Personally i dont want to be at war with BoB as I/we (millennium) have been close to rkk from the start but as it is its a game we are all here to have fun so lets just go out there have fun and enjoy ourselves.
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:18:00 -
[189]
u cant count on those killboards ppl have it kinda hard postin there own kill! and nsa/fu dont have a open killboard we dont go brag we know what happen and so do evol!
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:18:00 -
[190]
u cant count on those killboards ppl have it kinda hard postin there own kill! and nsa/fu dont have a open killboard we dont go brag we know what happen and so do evol!
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Li ShangYin
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:22:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Sir JoJo u cant count on those killboards ppl have it kinda hard postin there own kill! and nsa/fu dont have a open killboard we dont go brag we know what happen and so do evol!
So, what happened? I see your guys loosing Battle 1 hard, and Battle 2 less hard but still loosing it. Did BoB outnumber you? Did they use their spies? Did you jump in on them, they in on you? Was it closerange, longrange? Or are they not posting tons of losses? Did they fly cruisers only if they lost so few? I have tons of questions and your we know what happened and so do they doesn't answer any of them 
___________________________________ A spring day at the edge of the world. On the edge of the world once more the day slants. The oriole cries, as though it were its own tears Which damp even the topmost blossoms on the tree.
-- Li Shang-yin, Exile, ninth century A.D. |

Li ShangYin
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:22:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Sir JoJo u cant count on those killboards ppl have it kinda hard postin there own kill! and nsa/fu dont have a open killboard we dont go brag we know what happen and so do evol!
So, what happened? I see your guys loosing Battle 1 hard, and Battle 2 less hard but still loosing it. Did BoB outnumber you? Did they use their spies? Did you jump in on them, they in on you? Was it closerange, longrange? Or are they not posting tons of losses? Did they fly cruisers only if they lost so few? I have tons of questions and your we know what happened and so do they doesn't answer any of them 
___________________________________ A spring day at the edge of the world. On the edge of the world once more the day slants. The oriole cries, as though it were its own tears Which damp even the topmost blossoms on the tree.
-- Li Shang-yin, Exile, ninth century A.D. |

Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:26:00 -
[193]
as i said we know what happed evol knows it and isent that enough! only thing i wanna say is they left our space again!
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:26:00 -
[194]
as i said we know what happed evol knows it and isent that enough! only thing i wanna say is they left our space again!
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:26:00 -
[195]
178 In local, 68 in bob gang. We fight and won.
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:26:00 -
[196]
178 In local, 68 in bob gang. We fight and won.
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:31:00 -
[197]
Edited by: Sir JoJo on 21/11/2004 12:33:32
Originally by: sutty 178 In local, 68 in bob gang. We fight and won.
that could be right if u belive all evol says! and i know that it wasent NSA/FU warping away
but we did ptolly take a little more losses then BoB if u dont count in saturday.
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:31:00 -
[198]
Edited by: Sir JoJo on 21/11/2004 12:33:32
Originally by: sutty 178 In local, 68 in bob gang. We fight and won.
that could be right if u belive all evol says! and i know that it wasent NSA/FU warping away
but we did ptolly take a little more losses then BoB if u dont count in saturday.
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Dell
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:01:00 -
[199]
I personally left your blood stained space because it was 3:30AM and my bed was calling, and as for you Sir JoJo I only saw you once last night, 600k from a gate in a dual micro warp drive claw! WP
RN Killboard
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Dell
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:01:00 -
[200]
I personally left your blood stained space because it was 3:30AM and my bed was calling, and as for you Sir JoJo I only saw you once last night, 600k from a gate in a dual micro warp drive claw! WP
RN Killboard
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:04:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Sir JoJo Edited by: Sir JoJo on 21/11/2004 12:33:32
Originally by: sutty 178 In local, 68 in bob gang. We fight and won.
that could be right if u belive all evol says! and i know that it wasent NSA/FU warping away
but we did ptolly take a little more losses then BoB if u dont count in saturday.
Hehehehe, priceless :)
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:04:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Sir JoJo Edited by: Sir JoJo on 21/11/2004 12:33:32
Originally by: sutty 178 In local, 68 in bob gang. We fight and won.
that could be right if u belive all evol says! and i know that it wasent NSA/FU warping away
but we did ptolly take a little more losses then BoB if u dont count in saturday.
Hehehehe, priceless :)
Eve Blacklight Style
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Li ShangYin
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:07:00 -
[203]
Well, I'm trying to get the overall picture of the last 24 hour segment between the weekend downtimes, which is when war was happening, and so far the information has been somewhat sporadic, with BoB providing a list of kills and losses based on their killmails, and with sutty mentioning how many people were in local. From the Killboard it seems clear there were atleast 2 larger fights, in addition to a bunch of other kills, as so many have stated before killboards aren't totally accurate though which is why I was asking. As you said "if you believe all that evol say", but right now there isn't really much from the other side of the conflict that has been said, ignoring your comment about saturday of course.
But even so, BoB guy stated numbers that come out to roughly 110NSA/FU vs 60BoB, not sure if that was the first or second battle or both. That would still put them way ahead in terms of winning vs loosing though, although as it was said they did warp away. It could be that there simply is so much that you can do against an outnumbering enemy force, and coming out of that situation with more kills than losses is respectable. Not to mention trying to think about what kind of lag a battle with 170 people would have, although that prolly affects everyone. Still don't know how the battle happened.
Would you mind clarifying your statement about ignoring saturday btw, wasn't quite sure if you meant that NSA/FU are ahead in terms of kills if you ignore the saturday? and was it saturday gametime or dt to dt or ?
___________________________________ A spring day at the edge of the world. On the edge of the world once more the day slants. The oriole cries, as though it were its own tears Which damp even the topmost blossoms on the tree.
-- Li Shang-yin, Exile, ninth century A.D. |

Li ShangYin
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:07:00 -
[204]
Well, I'm trying to get the overall picture of the last 24 hour segment between the weekend downtimes, which is when war was happening, and so far the information has been somewhat sporadic, with BoB providing a list of kills and losses based on their killmails, and with sutty mentioning how many people were in local. From the Killboard it seems clear there were atleast 2 larger fights, in addition to a bunch of other kills, as so many have stated before killboards aren't totally accurate though which is why I was asking. As you said "if you believe all that evol say", but right now there isn't really much from the other side of the conflict that has been said, ignoring your comment about saturday of course.
But even so, BoB guy stated numbers that come out to roughly 110NSA/FU vs 60BoB, not sure if that was the first or second battle or both. That would still put them way ahead in terms of winning vs loosing though, although as it was said they did warp away. It could be that there simply is so much that you can do against an outnumbering enemy force, and coming out of that situation with more kills than losses is respectable. Not to mention trying to think about what kind of lag a battle with 170 people would have, although that prolly affects everyone. Still don't know how the battle happened.
Would you mind clarifying your statement about ignoring saturday btw, wasn't quite sure if you meant that NSA/FU are ahead in terms of kills if you ignore the saturday? and was it saturday gametime or dt to dt or ?
___________________________________ A spring day at the edge of the world. On the edge of the world once more the day slants. The oriole cries, as though it were its own tears Which damp even the topmost blossoms on the tree.
-- Li Shang-yin, Exile, ninth century A.D. |

Bannion
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:09:00 -
[205]
Originally by: sutty 178 In local, 68 in bob gang. We fight and won.
Yes of course you did.... 
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Bannion
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:09:00 -
[206]
Originally by: sutty 178 In local, 68 in bob gang. We fight and won.
Yes of course you did.... 
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:12:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Sir JoJo as i said we know what happed evol knows it and isent that enough! only thing i wanna say is they left our space again!
And who told you we are not coming back?
This is not a hijack
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:12:00 -
[208]
Originally by: Sir JoJo as i said we know what happed evol knows it and isent that enough! only thing i wanna say is they left our space again!
And who told you we are not coming back?
This is not a hijack
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:13:00 -
[209]
Hi honey im home
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:13:00 -
[210]
Hi honey im home
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:15:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Bannion
Originally by: sutty 178 In local, 68 in bob gang. We fight and won.
Yes of course you did.... 
Originally by: Li ShangYin
23 hour period, totaling at : Bships lost : BoB : 2 FU : 1 NSA : 21
Yeah, we kinda did
This is not a hijack
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:15:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Bannion
Originally by: sutty 178 In local, 68 in bob gang. We fight and won.
Yes of course you did.... 
Originally by: Li ShangYin
23 hour period, totaling at : Bships lost : BoB : 2 FU : 1 NSA : 21
Yeah, we kinda did
This is not a hijack
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:16:00 -
[213]
Originally by: Sun Ra Hi honey im home
morning sweety, fancy a cup of tea? Everybody else is welcome to join in as well 
This is not a hijack
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:16:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Sun Ra Hi honey im home
morning sweety, fancy a cup of tea? Everybody else is welcome to join in as well 
This is not a hijack
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kuam
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:17:00 -
[215]
evol ,where the children lie!
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kuam
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:17:00 -
[216]
evol ,where the children lie!
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:24:00 -
[217]
Originally by: kuam evol ,where the children lie!
I think we have more men with walktingsticks then any other corp
*waves to grandadd*
Dont tell them though otherwise they get a bit grumpy 
This is not a hijack
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:24:00 -
[218]
Originally by: kuam evol ,where the children lie!
I think we have more men with walktingsticks then any other corp
*waves to grandadd*
Dont tell them though otherwise they get a bit grumpy 
This is not a hijack
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:27:00 -
[219]
Yea, that fight today was sweet, if u took away the lag and the whole not being able to see the other fleet.
But yea, what took u guys so long to engage cause like, both of the blobs u brought into the fight were bigger then our whole gang, so one of ur blobs would have done, and we would have had a much better fight, though u woulda been force fed ur a$$ on a plate, but those things happen sometimes.
Im suprised that u guys didnt come away with more kills, easy 2-1 odds for 23 minutes before we were forced to back off.
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |

Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:27:00 -
[220]
Yea, that fight today was sweet, if u took away the lag and the whole not being able to see the other fleet.
But yea, what took u guys so long to engage cause like, both of the blobs u brought into the fight were bigger then our whole gang, so one of ur blobs would have done, and we would have had a much better fight, though u woulda been force fed ur a$$ on a plate, but those things happen sometimes.
Im suprised that u guys didnt come away with more kills, easy 2-1 odds for 23 minutes before we were forced to back off.
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
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Estarriol
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:46:00 -
[221]
Originally by: Sir JoJo as i said we know what happed evol knows it and isent that enough! only thing i wanna say is they left our space again!
After killing so many, even BoB need to reload...
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Estarriol
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:46:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Sir JoJo as i said we know what happed evol knows it and isent that enough! only thing i wanna say is they left our space again!
After killing so many, even BoB need to reload...
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DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:53:00 -
[223]
/me waves at lian
-Havo ------------------- Sig: Mirus Crosius <3
DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - WoWing It Up, Not Givin A F**k |

DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:53:00 -
[224]
/me waves at lian
-Havo ------------------- Sig: Mirus Crosius <3
DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - WoWing It Up, Not Givin A F**k |

Jaisan
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:53:00 -
[225]
Jaisan: /emote hands BoB a melon

Just too orangey for crows. |

Jaisan
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:53:00 -
[226]
Jaisan: /emote hands BoB a melon

Just too orangey for crows. |

Malius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:04:00 -
[227]
Edited by: Malius on 21/11/2004 14:13:32
Originally by: sutty 178 In local, 68 in bob gang. We fight and won.
You won only the race to your safespot. I need some of the ***** you guys are passing around.. heh. And here I thought I would be giving you guys props for standing your ground against greater numbers. Nope, your just ****heads.. haha...
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Malius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:04:00 -
[228]
Edited by: Malius on 21/11/2004 14:13:32
Originally by: sutty 178 In local, 68 in bob gang. We fight and won.
You won only the race to your safespot. I need some of the ***** you guys are passing around.. heh. And here I thought I would be giving you guys props for standing your ground against greater numbers. Nope, your just ****heads.. haha...
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Dell
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:05:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Malius
Originally by: sutty 178 In local, 68 in bob gang. We fight and won.
You won only the race to your safespot. I need some of the ***** you guys are passing around.. heh. And here I thought I would be giving you guys props for standing your ground against greating numbers. Nope, your just ****heads.. haha...
  school tomorrow unlucky!
RN Killboard
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Dell
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:05:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Malius
Originally by: sutty 178 In local, 68 in bob gang. We fight and won.
You won only the race to your safespot. I need some of the ***** you guys are passing around.. heh. And here I thought I would be giving you guys props for standing your ground against greating numbers. Nope, your just ****heads.. haha...
  school tomorrow unlucky!
RN Killboard
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:08:00 -
[231]
Originally by: Malius
Originally by: sutty 178 In local, 68 in bob gang. We fight and won.
You won only the race to your safespot. I need some of the ***** you guys are passing around.. heh. And here I thought I would be giving you guys props for standing your ground against greating numbers. Nope, your just ****heads.. haha...
You had about twice our numbers, we kill more than you. Says it all.
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:08:00 -
[232]
Originally by: Malius
Originally by: sutty 178 In local, 68 in bob gang. We fight and won.
You won only the race to your safespot. I need some of the ***** you guys are passing around.. heh. And here I thought I would be giving you guys props for standing your ground against greating numbers. Nope, your just ****heads.. haha...
You had about twice our numbers, we kill more than you. Says it all.
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Nestor Ne'Arthe
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:11:00 -
[233]
Originally by: Estarriol
Originally by: Sir JoJo as i said we know what happed evol knows it and isent that enough! only thing i wanna say is they left our space again!
After killing so many, even BoB need to reload...
Use lasers, duh. -- Portfolio (currently .PL only) - nestor.art.pl
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Nestor Ne'Arthe
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:11:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Estarriol
Originally by: Sir JoJo as i said we know what happed evol knows it and isent that enough! only thing i wanna say is they left our space again!
After killing so many, even BoB need to reload...
Use lasers, duh. -- Portfolio (currently .PL only) - nestor.art.pl
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Malius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:12:00 -
[235]
Originally by: dimensionZ
Originally by: Malius
Originally by: sutty 178 In local, 68 in bob gang. We fight and won.
You won only the race to your safespot. I need some of the ***** you guys are passing around.. heh. And here I thought I would be giving you guys props for standing your ground against greating numbers. Nope, your just ****heads.. haha...
You had about twice our numbers, we kill more than you. Says it all.
Of course you did. I mean.. you say so right? So it must be true :)
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Malius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:12:00 -
[236]
Originally by: dimensionZ
Originally by: Malius
Originally by: sutty 178 In local, 68 in bob gang. We fight and won.
You won only the race to your safespot. I need some of the ***** you guys are passing around.. heh. And here I thought I would be giving you guys props for standing your ground against greating numbers. Nope, your just ****heads.. haha...
You had about twice our numbers, we kill more than you. Says it all.
Of course you did. I mean.. you say so right? So it must be true :)
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:18:00 -
[237]
Edited by: Lianhaun on 21/11/2004 14:21:17 did you talk to Curse about deniability?
This is not a hijack
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:18:00 -
[238]
Edited by: Lianhaun on 21/11/2004 14:21:17 did you talk to Curse about deniability?
This is not a hijack
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Malius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:23:00 -
[239]
Originally by: Dell
Originally by: Malius
Originally by: sutty 178 In local, 68 in bob gang. We fight and won.
You won only the race to your safespot. I need some of the ***** you guys are passing around.. heh. And here I thought I would be giving you guys props for standing your ground against greater numbers. Nope, your just ****heads.. haha...
  school tomorrow unlucky!
So does that mean we won't see you guys tomorrow then?
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Malius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:23:00 -
[240]
Originally by: Dell
Originally by: Malius
Originally by: sutty 178 In local, 68 in bob gang. We fight and won.
You won only the race to your safespot. I need some of the ***** you guys are passing around.. heh. And here I thought I would be giving you guys props for standing your ground against greater numbers. Nope, your just ****heads.. haha...
  school tomorrow unlucky!
So does that mean we won't see you guys tomorrow then?
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DIetDew
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:24:00 -
[241]
Edited by: DIetDew on 21/11/2004 14:27:20 Edited by: DIetDew on 21/11/2004 14:27:03
Originally by: Malius Of course you did. I mean.. you say so right? So it must be true :)
No, we say so because we have the killmails to prove it. Please look at www.killboard.net and feel free to not talk again. Here ill break it down for you. Since sat, i count 57 BATTLESHIP losses for NSA and FU.
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DIetDew
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:24:00 -
[242]
Edited by: DIetDew on 21/11/2004 14:27:20 Edited by: DIetDew on 21/11/2004 14:27:03
Originally by: Malius Of course you did. I mean.. you say so right? So it must be true :)
No, we say so because we have the killmails to prove it. Please look at www.killboard.net and feel free to not talk again. Here ill break it down for you. Since sat, i count 57 BATTLESHIP losses for NSA and FU.
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patch
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:25:00 -
[243]
Yes its official the NSA/FU handed our asses to us.
GG NSA/FU, I shall never set foot into Deklein again, through sheer fear of being ganked by the almighty fleet of death.
Oh wait hang on, whats this .. click meh 
21 BS kills to 3 losses so far today NSA/FU.
Sheesh, your really kickin our asses, save me from your wrath. 
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patch
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:25:00 -
[244]
Yes its official the NSA/FU handed our asses to us.
GG NSA/FU, I shall never set foot into Deklein again, through sheer fear of being ganked by the almighty fleet of death.
Oh wait hang on, whats this .. click meh 
21 BS kills to 3 losses so far today NSA/FU.
Sheesh, your really kickin our asses, save me from your wrath. 
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Soul Dancer
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:31:00 -
[245]
why all this smack talk u killed some of us we killed some of u it was a great fight and u stood ur grounds untill it was to much i respect u for that but all this smack talking dosent suit u
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Soul Dancer
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:31:00 -
[246]
why all this smack talk u killed some of us we killed some of u it was a great fight and u stood ur grounds untill it was to much i respect u for that but all this smack talking dosent suit u
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:34:00 -
[247]
Edited by: Deathwing on 21/11/2004 14:37:05
Originally by: Soul Dancer why all this smack talk u killed some of us we killed some of u it was a great fight and u stood ur grounds untill it was to much i respect u for that but all this smack talking dosent suit u
U keep all ur peons, miners and carebears in line who think they can pvp an try to talk bigger then they really are
and I will worry about Sutty
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |

Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:34:00 -
[248]
Edited by: Deathwing on 21/11/2004 14:37:05
Originally by: Soul Dancer why all this smack talk u killed some of us we killed some of u it was a great fight and u stood ur grounds untill it was to much i respect u for that but all this smack talking dosent suit u
U keep all ur peons, miners and carebears in line who think they can pvp an try to talk bigger then they really are
and I will worry about Sutty
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |

pershphanie
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:40:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Luc Boye Edited by: Luc Boye on 21/11/2004 06:09:21
Originally by: Morela Nobody can kill someone who doesn't have a home. Hell ,you can't even kill PA.....
Bold statement from the guys who capitulated to PA.
  Evolution defending our honor? Wow. Now I've seen everything. Thank you I guess. |

pershphanie
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Luc Boye Edited by: Luc Boye on 21/11/2004 06:09:21
Originally by: Morela Nobody can kill someone who doesn't have a home. Hell ,you can't even kill PA.....
Bold statement from the guys who capitulated to PA.
  Evolution defending our honor? Wow. Now I've seen everything. Thank you I guess. |
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Malius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:46:00 -
[251]
Originally by: DIetDew Edited by: DIetDew on 21/11/2004 14:27:20 Edited by: DIetDew on 21/11/2004 14:27:03
Originally by: Malius Of course you did. I mean.. you say so right? So it must be true :)
No, we say so because we have the killmails to prove it. Please look at www.killboard.net and feel free to not talk again. Here ill break it down for you. Since sat, i count 57 BATTLESHIP losses for NSA and FU.
First of all.. I don't honestly care about your killboard, that can be rigged, and well considering who you guys are .. we're supposed to just take your word? Sure.
However, with that said, I won't dispute your numbers for the day. You did end up on top, good for you. That was not to be unexpected. My initial comment was aimed at one battle, where you did not come out on top, um well unless you count frigs being worth more than BS, and I don't even think BNC is that retarded. So feel free to bite my ass.
Anyway, I thought I would be coming here to say it was a interesting day with some big fights, that were fun, but instead, with the rubbish I see being posted from you guys, kinda casts a pale on the whole thing.
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Malius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:46:00 -
[252]
Originally by: DIetDew Edited by: DIetDew on 21/11/2004 14:27:20 Edited by: DIetDew on 21/11/2004 14:27:03
Originally by: Malius Of course you did. I mean.. you say so right? So it must be true :)
No, we say so because we have the killmails to prove it. Please look at www.killboard.net and feel free to not talk again. Here ill break it down for you. Since sat, i count 57 BATTLESHIP losses for NSA and FU.
First of all.. I don't honestly care about your killboard, that can be rigged, and well considering who you guys are .. we're supposed to just take your word? Sure.
However, with that said, I won't dispute your numbers for the day. You did end up on top, good for you. That was not to be unexpected. My initial comment was aimed at one battle, where you did not come out on top, um well unless you count frigs being worth more than BS, and I don't even think BNC is that retarded. So feel free to bite my ass.
Anyway, I thought I would be coming here to say it was a interesting day with some big fights, that were fun, but instead, with the rubbish I see being posted from you guys, kinda casts a pale on the whole thing.
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Raven Dru
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:57:00 -
[253]
Dont believe the hype Citizens of Eve.
When i left battle at 3am local showed 50 kills in the last hour. The Evol fleet was decimated and those that survived were forced to safespot while NSA/FU claimed the spoils of victory.
Dont believe the killboard stats. We in the NSA dont do killboards. We do Victory and were getting very good at achieving it.
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Raven Dru
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:57:00 -
[254]
Dont believe the hype Citizens of Eve.
When i left battle at 3am local showed 50 kills in the last hour. The Evol fleet was decimated and those that survived were forced to safespot while NSA/FU claimed the spoils of victory.
Dont believe the killboard stats. We in the NSA dont do killboards. We do Victory and were getting very good at achieving it.
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:58:00 -
[255]
But frigs are not worth more then BS's And we killed more of both then u did so whats ur point?
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:58:00 -
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But frigs are not worth more then BS's And we killed more of both then u did so whats ur point?
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |

Dell
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:08:00 -
[257]
Originally by: Raven Dru Dont believe the hype Citizens of Eve.
When i left battle at 3am local showed 50 kills in the last hour. The Evol fleet was decimated and those that survived were forced to safespot while NSA/FU claimed the spoils of victory.
Dont believe the killboard stats. We in the NSA dont do killboards. We do Victory and were getting very good at achieving it.
        
RN Killboard
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Dell
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:08:00 -
[258]
Originally by: Raven Dru Dont believe the hype Citizens of Eve.
When i left battle at 3am local showed 50 kills in the last hour. The Evol fleet was decimated and those that survived were forced to safespot while NSA/FU claimed the spoils of victory.
Dont believe the killboard stats. We in the NSA dont do killboards. We do Victory and were getting very good at achieving it.
        
RN Killboard
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:12:00 -
[259]
NSA/FU, you just dont get it do you. The PA warned you when you formed the NCA that in the end Evol/Bob would come for you in the long run. You sid they would never betray you. look where this left you now.
i hope Bob makes your alliance burn to the ground.
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these are soley my own views and do not represent R-K and the CA as a whole.
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:12:00 -
[260]
NSA/FU, you just dont get it do you. The PA warned you when you formed the NCA that in the end Evol/Bob would come for you in the long run. You sid they would never betray you. look where this left you now.
i hope Bob makes your alliance burn to the ground.
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these are soley my own views and do not represent R-K and the CA as a whole.
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:17:00 -
[261]
Quote: i hope Bob makes your alliance burn to the ground.
Like they did to u old alliance???
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:17:00 -
[262]
Quote: i hope Bob makes your alliance burn to the ground.
Like they did to u old alliance???
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:18:00 -
[263]
Originally by: Darko1107 If you only lost 2 BS the whole 5 or so hours you were in our space last night going up and down, why did u run at the end?
People like you are the reason that I love being outblobbed. They never get a clue. --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:18:00 -
[264]
Originally by: Darko1107 If you only lost 2 BS the whole 5 or so hours you were in our space last night going up and down, why did u run at the end?
People like you are the reason that I love being outblobbed. They never get a clue. --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

patch
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:24:00 -
[265]
Quote: First of all.. I don't honestly care about your killboard, that can be rigged
lmfao!
Theres always denial huh.
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patch
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:24:00 -
[266]
Quote: First of all.. I don't honestly care about your killboard, that can be rigged
lmfao!
Theres always denial huh.
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Malius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:26:00 -
[267]
Originally by: patch
Quote: First of all.. I don't honestly care about your killboard, that can be rigged
lmfao!
Theres always denial huh.
You deny, we deny, that's how the forum game is played is it not? :)
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Malius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:26:00 -
[268]
Originally by: patch
Quote: First of all.. I don't honestly care about your killboard, that can be rigged
lmfao!
Theres always denial huh.
You deny, we deny, that's how the forum game is played is it not? :)
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Jakal
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:28:00 -
[269]
Originally by: KIAPieman NSA/FU, you just dont get it do you. The PA warned you when you formed the NCA that in the end Evol/Bob would come for you in the long run. You sid they would never betray you. look where this left you now.
i hope Bob makes your alliance burn to the ground.
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these are soley my own views and do not represent R-K and the CA as a whole.
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you have to admit, telling us we cant come into your space is never a good idea.
-Adapt and Overcome.
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Jakal
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:28:00 -
[270]
Originally by: KIAPieman NSA/FU, you just dont get it do you. The PA warned you when you formed the NCA that in the end Evol/Bob would come for you in the long run. You sid they would never betray you. look where this left you now.
i hope Bob makes your alliance burn to the ground.
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these are soley my own views and do not represent R-K and the CA as a whole.
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you have to admit, telling us we cant come into your space is never a good idea.
-Adapt and Overcome.
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DIetDew
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:29:00 -
[271]
Originally by: Malius
Originally by: patch
Quote: First of all.. I don't honestly care about your killboard, that can be rigged
lmfao!
Theres always denial huh.
You deny, we deny, that's how the forum game is played is it not? :)
yes i deny we just killed you in L-C307.
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DIetDew
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:29:00 -
[272]
Originally by: Malius
Originally by: patch
Quote: First of all.. I don't honestly care about your killboard, that can be rigged
lmfao!
Theres always denial huh.
You deny, we deny, that's how the forum game is played is it not? :)
yes i deny we just killed you in L-C307.
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Malius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:31:00 -
[273]
Originally by: DIetDew
Originally by: Malius
Originally by: patch
Quote: First of all.. I don't honestly care about your killboard, that can be rigged
lmfao!
Theres always denial huh.
You deny, we deny, that's how the forum game is played is it not? :)
yes i deny we just killed you in L-C307.
Yes and I deny I killed a crow in the process. 1 for 1. Always fun in my book.
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Malius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:31:00 -
[274]
Originally by: DIetDew
Originally by: Malius
Originally by: patch
Quote: First of all.. I don't honestly care about your killboard, that can be rigged
lmfao!
Theres always denial huh.
You deny, we deny, that's how the forum game is played is it not? :)
yes i deny we just killed you in L-C307.
Yes and I deny I killed a crow in the process. 1 for 1. Always fun in my book.
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:34:00 -
[275]
Originally by: Raven Dru Dont believe the hype Citizens of Eve.
When i left battle at 3am local showed 50 kills in the last hour. The Evol fleet was decimated and those that survived were forced to safespot while NSA/FU claimed the spoils of victory.
Dont believe the killboard stats. We in the NSA dont do killboards. We do Victory and were getting very good at achieving it.
          
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:34:00 -
[276]
Originally by: Raven Dru Dont believe the hype Citizens of Eve.
When i left battle at 3am local showed 50 kills in the last hour. The Evol fleet was decimated and those that survived were forced to safespot while NSA/FU claimed the spoils of victory.
Dont believe the killboard stats. We in the NSA dont do killboards. We do Victory and were getting very good at achieving it.
          
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LLeBRing
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:35:00 -
[277]
Edited by: LLeBRing on 21/11/2004 15:38:12
Originally by: KIAPieman NSA/FU, you just dont get it do you. The PA warned you when you formed the NCA that in the end Evol/Bob would come for you in the long run. You sid they would never betray you. look where this left you now.
i hope Bob makes your alliance burn to the ground.
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these are soley my own views and do not represent R-K and the CA as a whole.
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They knew it long before the war was over and was preparing even during the war with the PA. Oh but how do you know this LL?? Because I saw the reasons and the cease fire draft long before the PA knew about it and tbh, i'm in the alliance. A person who has seen both sides and can say confidently that I am right and you are wrong 
P.S. They won't burn to the ground I assure you 
Now back to the thread at hand..,
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LLeBRing
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:35:00 -
[278]
Edited by: LLeBRing on 21/11/2004 15:38:12
Originally by: KIAPieman NSA/FU, you just dont get it do you. The PA warned you when you formed the NCA that in the end Evol/Bob would come for you in the long run. You sid they would never betray you. look where this left you now.
i hope Bob makes your alliance burn to the ground.
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these are soley my own views and do not represent R-K and the CA as a whole.
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They knew it long before the war was over and was preparing even during the war with the PA. Oh but how do you know this LL?? Because I saw the reasons and the cease fire draft long before the PA knew about it and tbh, i'm in the alliance. A person who has seen both sides and can say confidently that I am right and you are wrong 
P.S. They won't burn to the ground I assure you 
Now back to the thread at hand..,
Nuttin but corn bread en chicken for this fella  |

DIetDew
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:36:00 -
[279]
Originally by: Malius Yes and I deny I killed a crow in the process. 1 for 1. Always fun in my book.
Yes and in the process of us killing you we killed 8 frigs; 3 cruisers; 4 battleships.
So 1 for 1 i dont think so.
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DIetDew
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:36:00 -
[280]
Originally by: Malius Yes and I deny I killed a crow in the process. 1 for 1. Always fun in my book.
Yes and in the process of us killing you we killed 8 frigs; 3 cruisers; 4 battleships.
So 1 for 1 i dont think so.
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Malius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:40:00 -
[281]
Originally by: DIetDew
Originally by: Malius Yes and I deny I killed a crow in the process. 1 for 1. Always fun in my book.
Yes and in the process of us killing you we killed 8 frigs; 3 cruisers; 4 battleships.
Cool.. if you say so. I was out after I killed the crow and lost my taranis. Tried to do my part and had fun. :)
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Malius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:40:00 -
[282]
Originally by: DIetDew
Originally by: Malius Yes and I deny I killed a crow in the process. 1 for 1. Always fun in my book.
Yes and in the process of us killing you we killed 8 frigs; 3 cruisers; 4 battleships.
Cool.. if you say so. I was out after I killed the crow and lost my taranis. Tried to do my part and had fun. :)
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:05:00 -
[283]
At Malius.
OMFG stop being so utterly annoying man, look, you either provide with proof that our story is a lie and that our kill board is false or shut up with this utter lameness.
You were totally owned and you DARE to deny it, implying our kill board is rigged ?
No one has ever had the lameness to say this before, sure people have complaned about not 100% posts on losses but wtf man, NO ONE HAS EVER CLAIMED WE HAVE ADDED FALSE GOD DAMN KILLS AND WE HAVE FOUGHT MANY MANY BEFORE YOU.
Now get over your self and stop acting like a soiled brat which had its candy taken away, you provide with nothing and all you imply is that we run, we loose, we lie, and you win.
Now I will ask you to provide with something to back up those words, put up or shut up.
You sir and some of you corp mates even strike out Aneu, and that is somehting I though NO ONE could ever do.
Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:05:00 -
[284]
At Malius.
OMFG stop being so utterly annoying man, look, you either provide with proof that our story is a lie and that our kill board is false or shut up with this utter lameness.
You were totally owned and you DARE to deny it, implying our kill board is rigged ?
No one has ever had the lameness to say this before, sure people have complaned about not 100% posts on losses but wtf man, NO ONE HAS EVER CLAIMED WE HAVE ADDED FALSE GOD DAMN KILLS AND WE HAVE FOUGHT MANY MANY BEFORE YOU.
Now get over your self and stop acting like a soiled brat which had its candy taken away, you provide with nothing and all you imply is that we run, we loose, we lie, and you win.
Now I will ask you to provide with something to back up those words, put up or shut up.
You sir and some of you corp mates even strike out Aneu, and that is somehting I though NO ONE could ever do.
Spawn of the Devil
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:06:00 -
[285]
Originally by: Sir JoJo
Quote: i hope Bob makes your alliance burn to the ground.
Like they did to u old alliance???
well last i checked the PA was still going strong.
and LL, i was talking about when the war has just begun, not 1/2 way through. --------------------------------------------------------
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:06:00 -
[286]
Originally by: Sir JoJo
Quote: i hope Bob makes your alliance burn to the ground.
Like they did to u old alliance???
well last i checked the PA was still going strong.
and LL, i was talking about when the war has just begun, not 1/2 way through. --------------------------------------------------------
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LLeBRing
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:07:00 -
[287]
Originally by: KIAPieman
and LL, i was talking about when the war has just begun, not 1/2 way through.
ah then I would agree with you... but just think of their goals/objectives at the time... lesser of two evils really :)
Not sure if either you and I were in that situation, if we would have done things differently
Nuttin but corn bread en chicken for this fella  |

LLeBRing
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:07:00 -
[288]
Originally by: KIAPieman
and LL, i was talking about when the war has just begun, not 1/2 way through.
ah then I would agree with you... but just think of their goals/objectives at the time... lesser of two evils really :)
Not sure if either you and I were in that situation, if we would have done things differently
Nuttin but corn bread en chicken for this fella  |

KIAPieman
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:09:00 -
[289]
Originally by: LLeBRing
Originally by: KIAPieman
and LL, i was talking about when the war has just begun, not 1/2 way through.
ah then I would agree with you... but just think of their goals/objectives at the time... lesser of two evils really :)
Not sure if either you and I were in that situation, if we would have done things differently
possiby, but hindsight makes it difficult to judge what you would have done in past events. --------------------------------------------------------
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:09:00 -
[290]
Originally by: LLeBRing
Originally by: KIAPieman
and LL, i was talking about when the war has just begun, not 1/2 way through.
ah then I would agree with you... but just think of their goals/objectives at the time... lesser of two evils really :)
Not sure if either you and I were in that situation, if we would have done things differently
possiby, but hindsight makes it difficult to judge what you would have done in past events. --------------------------------------------------------
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Malius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:11:00 -
[291]
Originally by: Omniwar At Malius.
OMFG stop being so utterly annoying man, look, you either provide with proof that our story is a lie and that our kill board is false or shut up with this utter lameness.
You were totally owned and you DARE to deny it, implying our kill board is rigged ?
No one has ever had the lameness to say this before, sure people have complaned about not 100% posts on losses but wtf man, NO ONE HAS EVER CLAIMED WE HAVE ADDED FALSE GOD DAMN KILLS AND WE HAVE FOUGHT MANY MANY BEFORE YOU.
Now get over your self and stop acting like a soiled brat which had its candy taken away, you provide with nothing and all you imply is that we run, we loose, we lie, and you win.
Now I will ask you to provide with something to back up those words, put up or shut up.
You sir and some of you corp mates even strike out Aneu, and that is somehting I though NO ONE could ever do.
No need to get so worked up Omniwar, that is unless your trying to hide something. It's perfectly natural to suspect the guy running the casino is rigging the tables, if you can understand what I mean. The simple fact is that it's 'your' board, run by 'your corp'. If you expect people to take it as gospel, well that's kinda silly.
So settle down beavis :).
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Malius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:11:00 -
[292]
Originally by: Omniwar At Malius.
OMFG stop being so utterly annoying man, look, you either provide with proof that our story is a lie and that our kill board is false or shut up with this utter lameness.
You were totally owned and you DARE to deny it, implying our kill board is rigged ?
No one has ever had the lameness to say this before, sure people have complaned about not 100% posts on losses but wtf man, NO ONE HAS EVER CLAIMED WE HAVE ADDED FALSE GOD DAMN KILLS AND WE HAVE FOUGHT MANY MANY BEFORE YOU.
Now get over your self and stop acting like a soiled brat which had its candy taken away, you provide with nothing and all you imply is that we run, we loose, we lie, and you win.
Now I will ask you to provide with something to back up those words, put up or shut up.
You sir and some of you corp mates even strike out Aneu, and that is somehting I though NO ONE could ever do.
No need to get so worked up Omniwar, that is unless your trying to hide something. It's perfectly natural to suspect the guy running the casino is rigging the tables, if you can understand what I mean. The simple fact is that it's 'your' board, run by 'your corp'. If you expect people to take it as gospel, well that's kinda silly.
So settle down beavis :).
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Bannion
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:14:00 -
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For me the "BOB" kill board is one of the best I've seen tbh, although what it doesnt show is the ship losses of the Corps that are not in "BOB" that helped you in the battle
But lets keep it nice guys, we all enjoyed, afterall thats what we pay for
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Bannion
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:14:00 -
[294]
For me the "BOB" kill board is one of the best I've seen tbh, although what it doesnt show is the ship losses of the Corps that are not in "BOB" that helped you in the battle
But lets keep it nice guys, we all enjoyed, afterall thats what we pay for
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:24:00 -
[295]
Originally by: Malius
Originally by: Omniwar At Malius.
OMFG stop being so utterly annoying man, look, you either provide with proof that our story is a lie and that our kill board is false or shut up with this utter lameness.
You were totally owned and you DARE to deny it, implying our kill board is rigged ?
No one has ever had the lameness to say this before, sure people have complaned about not 100% posts on losses but wtf man, NO ONE HAS EVER CLAIMED WE HAVE ADDED FALSE GOD DAMN KILLS AND WE HAVE FOUGHT MANY MANY BEFORE YOU.
Now get over your self and stop acting like a soiled brat which had its candy taken away, you provide with nothing and all you imply is that we run, we loose, we lie, and you win.
Now I will ask you to provide with something to back up those words, put up or shut up.
You sir and some of you corp mates even strike out Aneu, and that is somehting I though NO ONE could ever do.
No need to get so worked up Omniwar, that is unless your trying to hide something. It's perfectly natural to suspect the guy running the casino is rigging the tables, if you can understand what I mean. The simple fact is that it's 'your' board, run by 'your corp'. If you expect people to take it as gospel, well that's kinda silly.
So settle down beavis :).
Dude you aint stopping with it are you, check the damn kill board and point out 1 kill we have falsely posted JUST ONE KILL WHICH WE POSTED AND WE DIDNT ACTUALLY KILL.
This has got to be the worst kinda PR I have ever seen from anyone, I thought you had better manners coming from CA and all 
Do you honestly think anyone in their right mind would rig a puplic kill board where the people who are listed as kills can look it over and then the scam would be found out, gesh man you totally got us there.
Now go and buy a clue, with your silly denials and lack of anything to back you up make you look like a joke, but to me youre just annoying for your lies. Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:24:00 -
[296]
Originally by: Malius
Originally by: Omniwar At Malius.
OMFG stop being so utterly annoying man, look, you either provide with proof that our story is a lie and that our kill board is false or shut up with this utter lameness.
You were totally owned and you DARE to deny it, implying our kill board is rigged ?
No one has ever had the lameness to say this before, sure people have complaned about not 100% posts on losses but wtf man, NO ONE HAS EVER CLAIMED WE HAVE ADDED FALSE GOD DAMN KILLS AND WE HAVE FOUGHT MANY MANY BEFORE YOU.
Now get over your self and stop acting like a soiled brat which had its candy taken away, you provide with nothing and all you imply is that we run, we loose, we lie, and you win.
Now I will ask you to provide with something to back up those words, put up or shut up.
You sir and some of you corp mates even strike out Aneu, and that is somehting I though NO ONE could ever do.
No need to get so worked up Omniwar, that is unless your trying to hide something. It's perfectly natural to suspect the guy running the casino is rigging the tables, if you can understand what I mean. The simple fact is that it's 'your' board, run by 'your corp'. If you expect people to take it as gospel, well that's kinda silly.
So settle down beavis :).
Dude you aint stopping with it are you, check the damn kill board and point out 1 kill we have falsely posted JUST ONE KILL WHICH WE POSTED AND WE DIDNT ACTUALLY KILL.
This has got to be the worst kinda PR I have ever seen from anyone, I thought you had better manners coming from CA and all 
Do you honestly think anyone in their right mind would rig a puplic kill board where the people who are listed as kills can look it over and then the scam would be found out, gesh man you totally got us there.
Now go and buy a clue, with your silly denials and lack of anything to back you up make you look like a joke, but to me youre just annoying for your lies. Spawn of the Devil
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0Virtu0
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:25:00 -
[297]
Edited by: 0Virtu0 on 21/11/2004 16:29:24 What I love about BoB's killboards.
If you get killed by BoB, you'll see the killmail on there in ten minutes or so, but the VERY VERY vast majority of deaths are never posted. So I believe their killboards are fairly accurate for how their kills are doing, but if you're looking to see how they're dying, don't bother, it's nowhere near even being close to accurate. Never good to dent your own morale, eh? :)
Oh, and good fights last night guys, was great fun. :) ---------------------------------- I play EvE and I don't even get a stupid signature. |

0Virtu0
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:25:00 -
[298]
Edited by: 0Virtu0 on 21/11/2004 16:29:24 What I love about BoB's killboards.
If you get killed by BoB, you'll see the killmail on there in ten minutes or so, but the VERY VERY vast majority of deaths are never posted. So I believe their killboards are fairly accurate for how their kills are doing, but if you're looking to see how they're dying, don't bother, it's nowhere near even being close to accurate. Never good to dent your own morale, eh? :)
Oh, and good fights last night guys, was great fun. :) ---------------------------------- I play EvE and I don't even get a stupid signature. |

Jaisan
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:31:00 -
[299]
Melons for sale.
Just too orangey for crows. |

Jaisan
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:31:00 -
[300]
Melons for sale.
Just too orangey for crows. |
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:35:00 -
[301]
Originally by: 0Virtu0 Edited by: 0Virtu0 on 21/11/2004 16:29:24 What I love about BoB's killboards.
If you get killed by BoB, you'll see the killmail on there in ten minutes or so, but the VERY VERY vast majority of deaths are never posted. So I believe their killboards are fairly accurate for how their kills are doing, but if you're looking to see how they're dying, don't bother, it's nowhere near even being close to accurate. Never good to dent your own morale, eh? :)
Oh, and good fights last night guys, was great fun. :)
Show me a killboard with 100% of death accuracy. Its VERY difficult to remind ppl to actually post their death. Not happy because we miss an important loss ? Send me the killmail, and i'll add it. We have nothing to hide.
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:35:00 -
[302]
Originally by: 0Virtu0 Edited by: 0Virtu0 on 21/11/2004 16:29:24 What I love about BoB's killboards.
If you get killed by BoB, you'll see the killmail on there in ten minutes or so, but the VERY VERY vast majority of deaths are never posted. So I believe their killboards are fairly accurate for how their kills are doing, but if you're looking to see how they're dying, don't bother, it's nowhere near even being close to accurate. Never good to dent your own morale, eh? :)
Oh, and good fights last night guys, was great fun. :)
Show me a killboard with 100% of death accuracy. Its VERY difficult to remind ppl to actually post their death. Not happy because we miss an important loss ? Send me the killmail, and i'll add it. We have nothing to hide.
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0Virtu0
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:39:00 -
[303]
Originally by: dimensionZ
Show me a killboard with 100% of death accuracy. Its VERY difficult to remind ppl to actually post their death. Not happy because we miss an important loss ? Send me the killmail, and i'll add it. We have nothing to hide.
Correct, there is no such thing as a killboard with 100% accuracy because people are afraid to show if they perhaps have off days and lose more ships than kill and whatnot, and this is true for all alliances, including BoB.
Starting today if I get a killmail that I don't see on your boards, I'll be happy to give it to you. :) ---------------------------------- I play EvE and I don't even get a stupid signature. |

0Virtu0
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:39:00 -
[304]
Originally by: dimensionZ
Show me a killboard with 100% of death accuracy. Its VERY difficult to remind ppl to actually post their death. Not happy because we miss an important loss ? Send me the killmail, and i'll add it. We have nothing to hide.
Correct, there is no such thing as a killboard with 100% accuracy because people are afraid to show if they perhaps have off days and lose more ships than kill and whatnot, and this is true for all alliances, including BoB.
Starting today if I get a killmail that I don't see on your boards, I'll be happy to give it to you. :) ---------------------------------- I play EvE and I don't even get a stupid signature. |

Jon Ogden
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:47:00 -
[305]
Edited by: Jon Ogden on 21/11/2004 16:54:01 Now that everyone has fired a few shots, where do we go from here?
We will not wipe you out and you will not wipe us out, We will not surrender and nor will you.
So where does this end?
As you ponder this question, check out my sexy sig...
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Jon Ogden
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:47:00 -
[306]
Edited by: Jon Ogden on 21/11/2004 16:54:01 Now that everyone has fired a few shots, where do we go from here?
We will not wipe you out and you will not wipe us out, We will not surrender and nor will you.
So where does this end?
As you ponder this question, check out my sexy sig...
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:56:00 -
[307]
ok man lets stop it here and take it at the battle field alot more fun!
the bob killboard is awesome and yes u kills are correct i dont doubt that at all! but its u looses i find hard to belive in but enough of it i am sure we will have alot more battles and the killboard will get alot more ship in and i actually enjoy looking a the bob killboard from time to time! cya out there
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:56:00 -
[308]
ok man lets stop it here and take it at the battle field alot more fun!
the bob killboard is awesome and yes u kills are correct i dont doubt that at all! but its u looses i find hard to belive in but enough of it i am sure we will have alot more battles and the killboard will get alot more ship in and i actually enjoy looking a the bob killboard from time to time! cya out there
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DIetDew
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:02:00 -
[309]
Originally by: Sir JoJo ok man lets stop it here and take it at the battle field alot more fun!
the bob killboard is awesome and yes u kills are correct i dont doubt that at all! but its u looses i find hard to belive in but enough of it i am sure we will have alot more battles and the killboard will get alot more ship in and i actually enjoy looking a the bob killboard from time to time! cya out there
feel free to evemail shrike any loses that are missing fromt he killboard and we will get them added asap.
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DIetDew
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:02:00 -
[310]
Originally by: Sir JoJo ok man lets stop it here and take it at the battle field alot more fun!
the bob killboard is awesome and yes u kills are correct i dont doubt that at all! but its u looses i find hard to belive in but enough of it i am sure we will have alot more battles and the killboard will get alot more ship in and i actually enjoy looking a the bob killboard from time to time! cya out there
feel free to evemail shrike any loses that are missing fromt he killboard and we will get them added asap.
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YodaMasterJedi
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:11:00 -
[311]
Why don't we just settle this matter with a high stakes poker game.
new image coming soon!! |

YodaMasterJedi
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:11:00 -
[312]
Why don't we just settle this matter with a high stakes poker game.
new image coming soon!! |

Shrike
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:15:00 -
[313]
Originally by: YodaMasterJedi Why don't we just settle this matter with a high stakes poker game.
Sure, youre currently at 6.6 billions worth in insurance of losses in 2 days. How much you wanna put up?
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Shrike
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:15:00 -
[314]
Originally by: YodaMasterJedi Why don't we just settle this matter with a high stakes poker game.
Sure, youre currently at 6.6 billions worth in insurance of losses in 2 days. How much you wanna put up?
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YodaMasterJedi
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:29:00 -
[315]
I meant with real money and a real card table not with isk. I'm thinking out of game!
new image coming soon!! |

YodaMasterJedi
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:29:00 -
[316]
I meant with real money and a real card table not with isk. I'm thinking out of game!
new image coming soon!! |

kuam
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:51:00 -
[317]
shrike, you really are a pompus red-neck!
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kuam
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:51:00 -
[318]
shrike, you really are a pompus red-neck!
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:55:00 -
[319]
Originally by: YodaMasterJedi I meant with real money and a real card table not with isk. I'm thinking out of game!
rAh! me not believe you - me think kards will be rigged! r-h!
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:55:00 -
[320]
Originally by: YodaMasterJedi I meant with real money and a real card table not with isk. I'm thinking out of game!
rAh! me not believe you - me think kards will be rigged! r-h!
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Mystiel Raleigh
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:59:00 -
[321]
Originally by: Shrike Sure, youre currently at 6.6 billions worth in insurance of losses in 2 days. How much you wanna put up?
I think you need to work on your math a little bit. You claim to have killed 53 battleships. Even assuming they're all tier 2, at 30m a shot that's only about 1.6 billion max. Are you trying to say you've done 5 billion worth of damage to just cruisers and frigates alone?  ---
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Mystiel Raleigh
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:59:00 -
[322]
Originally by: Shrike Sure, youre currently at 6.6 billions worth in insurance of losses in 2 days. How much you wanna put up?
I think you need to work on your math a little bit. You claim to have killed 53 battleships. Even assuming they're all tier 2, at 30m a shot that's only about 1.6 billion max. Are you trying to say you've done 5 billion worth of damage to just cruisers and frigates alone?  ---
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Capt Hindgrinder
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:00:00 -
[323]
/me oiling big gun
So, since this ruckass started I've been thinking how best to respond to B0ob...while killing BNC scouts and chewing blue pills i finally came up with an action plan. Simple. Xmas is coming pretty soon and it's time for Hindgrinders yearly Homebrew marathon.... tomorrow i'll be placing an order at my local micro-brewery for 15 x 24 cases of various flavours of fine home brewed canadian beer.
Fear the dark beer.
C.H. CEO EGCO FU Council
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Capt Hindgrinder
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:00:00 -
[324]
/me oiling big gun
So, since this ruckass started I've been thinking how best to respond to B0ob...while killing BNC scouts and chewing blue pills i finally came up with an action plan. Simple. Xmas is coming pretty soon and it's time for Hindgrinders yearly Homebrew marathon.... tomorrow i'll be placing an order at my local micro-brewery for 15 x 24 cases of various flavours of fine home brewed canadian beer.
Fear the dark beer.
C.H. CEO EGCO FU Council
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:06:00 -
[325]
I can't believe some of the drivel I am reading in this thread.
You are actually accusing us of rigging the killboard?
For goodness sake. Fade Union you actually picked this fight, you've been antagonising RKK and BNC for about a month now. It is your own pilots that got you into this mess. Suck it up and learn to fight because it's going to be very long and very painful.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:06:00 -
[326]
I can't believe some of the drivel I am reading in this thread.
You are actually accusing us of rigging the killboard?
For goodness sake. Fade Union you actually picked this fight, you've been antagonising RKK and BNC for about a month now. It is your own pilots that got you into this mess. Suck it up and learn to fight because it's going to be very long and very painful.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Carmen Priano
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:06:00 -
[327]
Mystiel; the kill board asset loss counter is an indicator of total goods value destroyed -- this is based off of the insurance payment. Actual asset value lost will be, what -- 30 to 35 percent of this? Still, it -is- a good indicator for what or how much was destroyed. Losing 3 billion in a given day shows that a large quantity of battleships were destroyed -- and as much as you want to claim otherwise, BoB tries its damnedest to get all parties to file their death mails, so the disproportionate kill/death ratio -is- in fact quite accurate.
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Carmen Priano
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:06:00 -
[328]
Mystiel; the kill board asset loss counter is an indicator of total goods value destroyed -- this is based off of the insurance payment. Actual asset value lost will be, what -- 30 to 35 percent of this? Still, it -is- a good indicator for what or how much was destroyed. Losing 3 billion in a given day shows that a large quantity of battleships were destroyed -- and as much as you want to claim otherwise, BoB tries its damnedest to get all parties to file their death mails, so the disproportionate kill/death ratio -is- in fact quite accurate.
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YodaMasterJedi
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:07:00 -
[329]
Originally by: kuam shrike, you really are a pompus red-neck!
I think that maybe most of evolution is too young to play cards in USA anyway, have to be 21. I think that shrike is a little upset by that. Sorry kids
new image coming soon!! |

YodaMasterJedi
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:07:00 -
[330]
Originally by: kuam shrike, you really are a pompus red-neck!
I think that maybe most of evolution is too young to play cards in USA anyway, have to be 21. I think that shrike is a little upset by that. Sorry kids
new image coming soon!! |
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Mystiel Raleigh
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:09:00 -
[331]
Edited by: Mystiel Raleigh on 21/11/2004 18:12:25
Originally by: Carmen Priano Mystiel; the kill board asset loss counter is an indicator of total goods value destroyed -- this is based off of the insurance payment. Actual asset value lost will be, what -- 30 to 35 percent of this? Still, it -is- a good indicator for what or how much was destroyed. Losing 3 billion in a given day shows that a large quantity of battleships were destroyed -- and as much as you want to claim otherwise, BoB tries its damnedest to get all parties to file their death mails, so the disproportionate kill/death ratio -is- in fact quite accurate.
So you're trying to say we've lost 5 billion just in modules in addition to 1.6 billion in insurance? 
No matter how you spin it, the numbers don't add up. Maybe Shrike would like to recheck his calculator's batteries. ---
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Mystiel Raleigh
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:09:00 -
[332]
Edited by: Mystiel Raleigh on 21/11/2004 18:12:25
Originally by: Carmen Priano Mystiel; the kill board asset loss counter is an indicator of total goods value destroyed -- this is based off of the insurance payment. Actual asset value lost will be, what -- 30 to 35 percent of this? Still, it -is- a good indicator for what or how much was destroyed. Losing 3 billion in a given day shows that a large quantity of battleships were destroyed -- and as much as you want to claim otherwise, BoB tries its damnedest to get all parties to file their death mails, so the disproportionate kill/death ratio -is- in fact quite accurate.
So you're trying to say we've lost 5 billion just in modules in addition to 1.6 billion in insurance? 
No matter how you spin it, the numbers don't add up. Maybe Shrike would like to recheck his calculator's batteries. ---
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YodaMasterJedi
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:09:00 -
[333]
Originally by: Capt Hindgrinder /me oiling big gun
So, since this ruckass started I've been thinking how best to respond to B0ob...while killing BNC scouts and chewing blue pills i finally came up with an action plan. Simple. Xmas is coming pretty soon and it's time for Hindgrinders yearly Homebrew marathon.... tomorrow i'll be placing an order at my local micro-brewery for 15 x 24 cases of various flavours of fine home brewed canadian beer.
Fear the dark beer.
C.H. CEO EGCO FU Council
GOD DAMN CAN I GET AN AMEN!!!! Cheers!
new image coming soon!! |

YodaMasterJedi
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:09:00 -
[334]
Originally by: Capt Hindgrinder /me oiling big gun
So, since this ruckass started I've been thinking how best to respond to B0ob...while killing BNC scouts and chewing blue pills i finally came up with an action plan. Simple. Xmas is coming pretty soon and it's time for Hindgrinders yearly Homebrew marathon.... tomorrow i'll be placing an order at my local micro-brewery for 15 x 24 cases of various flavours of fine home brewed canadian beer.
Fear the dark beer.
C.H. CEO EGCO FU Council
GOD DAMN CAN I GET AN AMEN!!!! Cheers!
new image coming soon!! |

TheJay
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:11:00 -
[335]
I just read through 8 pages of hot air, I want my 20 minutes back
Who do I have to sue... 
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TheJay
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:11:00 -
[336]
I just read through 8 pages of hot air, I want my 20 minutes back
Who do I have to sue... 
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:13:00 -
[337]
Originally by: Blacklight
For goodness sake. Fade Union you actually picked this fight, you've been antagonising RKK and BNC for about a month now. It is your own pilots that got you into this mess. Suck it up and learn to fight because it's going to be very long and very painful.
Ah....hahahahaha!
Oh dear, you should be a stand up comedian or something 
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:13:00 -
[338]
Originally by: Blacklight
For goodness sake. Fade Union you actually picked this fight, you've been antagonising RKK and BNC for about a month now. It is your own pilots that got you into this mess. Suck it up and learn to fight because it's going to be very long and very painful.
Ah....hahahahaha!
Oh dear, you should be a stand up comedian or something 
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Levka
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:14:00 -
[339]
Originally by: BloodRaven2 Edited by: BloodRaven2 on 21/11/2004 06:15:25 Edited by: BloodRaven2 on 21/11/2004 06:14:46 Here is my 2 cents.
BoB: What are they, they are 365/24/7/ PVPers. Thats what they do for fun. And they are extrimely good at it and just might be one of the toughest group of PVPers in EVE. At this point they dont care about claiming regions, they just want to get a fight,
NSA/FU: Those guys are what i will call a General Alliance. They dont PVP 24/7, rather hunt/mine/pvp at their region of Deklein and Fade. They do have some very experienced fighters. From what i see all members will fight anyone who comes to their region, considering that they might not be as experienced.
However i give my props to them to actually fighting and getting kills. They will suffer losses and so will Bob. Only time will show who will end up on top.
Keep it clean, keep it fun guys.
Hot air....indeed.......This is the only decent msg up to date :))) -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you dont have anything SMART to say.....say it Often and Loud
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Levka
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:14:00 -
[340]
Originally by: BloodRaven2 Edited by: BloodRaven2 on 21/11/2004 06:15:25 Edited by: BloodRaven2 on 21/11/2004 06:14:46 Here is my 2 cents.
BoB: What are they, they are 365/24/7/ PVPers. Thats what they do for fun. And they are extrimely good at it and just might be one of the toughest group of PVPers in EVE. At this point they dont care about claiming regions, they just want to get a fight,
NSA/FU: Those guys are what i will call a General Alliance. They dont PVP 24/7, rather hunt/mine/pvp at their region of Deklein and Fade. They do have some very experienced fighters. From what i see all members will fight anyone who comes to their region, considering that they might not be as experienced.
However i give my props to them to actually fighting and getting kills. They will suffer losses and so will Bob. Only time will show who will end up on top.
Keep it clean, keep it fun guys.
Hot air....indeed.......This is the only decent msg up to date :))) -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you dont have anything SMART to say.....say it Often and Loud
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:14:00 -
[341]
Originally by: Carmen Priano Mystiel; the kill board asset loss counter is an indicator of total goods value destroyed -- this is based off of the insurance payment. Actual asset value lost will be, what -- 30 to 35 percent of this? Still, it -is- a good indicator for what or how much was destroyed. Losing 3 billion in a given day shows that a large quantity of battleships were destroyed -- and as much as you want to claim otherwise, BoB tries its damnedest to get all parties to file their death mails, so the disproportionate kill/death ratio -is- in fact quite accurate.
It is a very rigged indicator, however, because it counts all tech 2 ships far below their actual value. 
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:14:00 -
[342]
Originally by: Carmen Priano Mystiel; the kill board asset loss counter is an indicator of total goods value destroyed -- this is based off of the insurance payment. Actual asset value lost will be, what -- 30 to 35 percent of this? Still, it -is- a good indicator for what or how much was destroyed. Losing 3 billion in a given day shows that a large quantity of battleships were destroyed -- and as much as you want to claim otherwise, BoB tries its damnedest to get all parties to file their death mails, so the disproportionate kill/death ratio -is- in fact quite accurate.
It is a very rigged indicator, however, because it counts all tech 2 ships far below their actual value. 
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YodaMasterJedi
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:20:00 -
[343]
Originally by: Levka
Originally by: BloodRaven2 Edited by: BloodRaven2 on 21/11/2004 06:15:25 Edited by: BloodRaven2 on 21/11/2004 06:14:46 Here is my 2 cents.
BoB: What are they, they are 365/24/7/ PVPers. Thats what they do for fun. And they are extrimely good at it and just might be one of the toughest group of PVPers in EVE. At this point they dont care about claiming regions, they just want to get a fight,
NSA/FU: Those guys are what i will call a General Alliance. They dont PVP 24/7, rather hunt/mine/pvp at their region of Deklein and Fade. They do have some very experienced fighters. From what i see all members will fight anyone who comes to their region, considering that they might not be as experienced.
However i give my props to them to actually fighting and getting kills. They will suffer losses and so will Bob. Only time will show who will end up on top.
Keep it clean, keep it fun guys.
Hot air....indeed.......This is the only decent msg up to date :))) -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you dont have anything SMART to say.....say it Often and Loud
Agreed!
new image coming soon!! |

YodaMasterJedi
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:20:00 -
[344]
Originally by: Levka
Originally by: BloodRaven2 Edited by: BloodRaven2 on 21/11/2004 06:15:25 Edited by: BloodRaven2 on 21/11/2004 06:14:46 Here is my 2 cents.
BoB: What are they, they are 365/24/7/ PVPers. Thats what they do for fun. And they are extrimely good at it and just might be one of the toughest group of PVPers in EVE. At this point they dont care about claiming regions, they just want to get a fight,
NSA/FU: Those guys are what i will call a General Alliance. They dont PVP 24/7, rather hunt/mine/pvp at their region of Deklein and Fade. They do have some very experienced fighters. From what i see all members will fight anyone who comes to their region, considering that they might not be as experienced.
However i give my props to them to actually fighting and getting kills. They will suffer losses and so will Bob. Only time will show who will end up on top.
Keep it clean, keep it fun guys.
Hot air....indeed.......This is the only decent msg up to date :))) -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you dont have anything SMART to say.....say it Often and Loud
Agreed!
new image coming soon!! |

Shrike
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:22:00 -
[345]
Originally by: Mystiel Raleigh So you're trying to say we've lost 5 billion just in modules in addition to 1.6 billion in insurance? 
No matter how you spin it, the numbers don't add up. Maybe Shrike would like to recheck his calculator's batteries.
K, ill break it down for you.
FU Saturday 395 million insurance value. NSA Saturday 1572 million insurance value
FU Sunday 651 million insurance value NSA Sunday 1829 million insurance value
Totalling 4448 million insurance value. Add to this those corps who have not yet been flagged as NSA/FU and therefore the values are not added.
6.6 billions is the total kills inflicted on BoB's enemies from saturday and sunday, which also included CA & PA.
NO modules value is included in this. NO additional value, each ship downed, confirmed with a killmail, is all that this is based on.
It can all be found on the killboard.
Enjoy.
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Shrike
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:22:00 -
[346]
Originally by: Mystiel Raleigh So you're trying to say we've lost 5 billion just in modules in addition to 1.6 billion in insurance? 
No matter how you spin it, the numbers don't add up. Maybe Shrike would like to recheck his calculator's batteries.
K, ill break it down for you.
FU Saturday 395 million insurance value. NSA Saturday 1572 million insurance value
FU Sunday 651 million insurance value NSA Sunday 1829 million insurance value
Totalling 4448 million insurance value. Add to this those corps who have not yet been flagged as NSA/FU and therefore the values are not added.
6.6 billions is the total kills inflicted on BoB's enemies from saturday and sunday, which also included CA & PA.
NO modules value is included in this. NO additional value, each ship downed, confirmed with a killmail, is all that this is based on.
It can all be found on the killboard.
Enjoy.
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Shrike
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:25:00 -
[347]
Originally by: YodaMasterJedi
Originally by: kuam shrike, you really are a pompus red-neck!
I think that maybe most of evolution is too young to play cards in USA anyway, have to be 21. I think that shrike is a little upset by that. Sorry kids
I'm sorry Yodadude, but, since you have no check on anything, ill have to actually tell you that the average age in Evolution is about 20-30, and that myself, I'm 37. Now, i don't really see what that has to do with anything, but since you're a bit obsessed with it, might as well enlighten you.
Have a nice day.
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Shrike
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:25:00 -
[348]
Originally by: YodaMasterJedi
Originally by: kuam shrike, you really are a pompus red-neck!
I think that maybe most of evolution is too young to play cards in USA anyway, have to be 21. I think that shrike is a little upset by that. Sorry kids
I'm sorry Yodadude, but, since you have no check on anything, ill have to actually tell you that the average age in Evolution is about 20-30, and that myself, I'm 37. Now, i don't really see what that has to do with anything, but since you're a bit obsessed with it, might as well enlighten you.
Have a nice day.
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:28:00 -
[349]
It is only the insurance payout though.
So it is skewed against tech 1 ships (where the cost of a loss is about 20-30% of the insurance payout with stock modules) and in favour of tech 2 ships (where the cost of a loss is generally at least by a factor of 2-3 higher than the insurance payout. 
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:28:00 -
[350]
It is only the insurance payout though.
So it is skewed against tech 1 ships (where the cost of a loss is about 20-30% of the insurance payout with stock modules) and in favour of tech 2 ships (where the cost of a loss is generally at least by a factor of 2-3 higher than the insurance payout. 
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YodaMasterJedi
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:37:00 -
[351]
Originally by: Shrike
Originally by: YodaMasterJedi
Originally by: kuam shrike, you really are a pompus red-neck!
I think that maybe most of evolution is too young to play cards in USA anyway, have to be 21. I think that shrike is a little upset by that. Sorry kids
I'm sorry Yodadude, but, since you have no check on anything, ill have to actually tell you that the average age in Evolution is about 20-30, and that myself, I'm 37. Now, i don't really see what that has to do with anything, but since you're a bit obsessed with it, might as well enlighten you.
Have a nice day.
Well then lets play some cards and see who comes out on top. I will have a great day and I hope you do the same!
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YodaMasterJedi
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:37:00 -
[352]
Originally by: Shrike
Originally by: YodaMasterJedi
Originally by: kuam shrike, you really are a pompus red-neck!
I think that maybe most of evolution is too young to play cards in USA anyway, have to be 21. I think that shrike is a little upset by that. Sorry kids
I'm sorry Yodadude, but, since you have no check on anything, ill have to actually tell you that the average age in Evolution is about 20-30, and that myself, I'm 37. Now, i don't really see what that has to do with anything, but since you're a bit obsessed with it, might as well enlighten you.
Have a nice day.
Well then lets play some cards and see who comes out on top. I will have a great day and I hope you do the same!
new image coming soon!! |

Stained
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:40:00 -
[353]
Originally by: YodaMasterJedi
Originally by: Shrike
Originally by: YodaMasterJedi
Originally by: kuam shrike, you really are a pompus red-neck!
I think that maybe most of evolution is too young to play cards in USA anyway, have to be 21. I think that shrike is a little upset by that. Sorry kids
I'm sorry Yodadude, but, since you have no check on anything, ill have to actually tell you that the average age in Evolution is about 20-30, and that myself, I'm 37. Now, i don't really see what that has to do with anything, but since you're a bit obsessed with it, might as well enlighten you.
Have a nice day.
Well then lets play some cards and see who comes out on top. I will have a great day and I hope you do the same!
Are you high?
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Hair is Over-rated.
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:40:00 -
[354]
Originally by: YodaMasterJedi
Originally by: Shrike
Originally by: YodaMasterJedi
Originally by: kuam shrike, you really are a pompus red-neck!
I think that maybe most of evolution is too young to play cards in USA anyway, have to be 21. I think that shrike is a little upset by that. Sorry kids
I'm sorry Yodadude, but, since you have no check on anything, ill have to actually tell you that the average age in Evolution is about 20-30, and that myself, I'm 37. Now, i don't really see what that has to do with anything, but since you're a bit obsessed with it, might as well enlighten you.
Have a nice day.
Well then lets play some cards and see who comes out on top. I will have a great day and I hope you do the same!
Are you high?
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Hair is Over-rated.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:41:00 -
[355]
Do you guys relice you havent contrabuted anything to the thread other than implying we rigged the kill board, we ran from fights, we lost fights, ran from your space, we had planned this war, we had manipulated the war, we basicly suck, funny thing though that you wont post anything to back it up.
You're a joke to the Forum UnionÖ [FU] for you dont provide with any sort of evidence but you sure bring alot of big words and slander, I'm actually thinking of putting up a vote on the next meeting of Internal Security Affairs YeoÀman of Forum Union [ISAYFU] that you all will be removed since you are an embarrasment to the rest of us.
ps, for the people who wont get it at first try, the seccond half of my post is a funneh. Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:41:00 -
[356]
Do you guys relice you havent contrabuted anything to the thread other than implying we rigged the kill board, we ran from fights, we lost fights, ran from your space, we had planned this war, we had manipulated the war, we basicly suck, funny thing though that you wont post anything to back it up.
You're a joke to the Forum UnionÖ [FU] for you dont provide with any sort of evidence but you sure bring alot of big words and slander, I'm actually thinking of putting up a vote on the next meeting of Internal Security Affairs YeoÀman of Forum Union [ISAYFU] that you all will be removed since you are an embarrasment to the rest of us.
ps, for the people who wont get it at first try, the seccond half of my post is a funneh. Spawn of the Devil
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YodaMasterJedi
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:41:00 -
[357]
Originally by: Stained
Originally by: YodaMasterJedi
Originally by: Shrike
Originally by: YodaMasterJedi
Originally by: kuam shrike, you really are a pompus red-neck!
I think that maybe most of evolution is too young to play cards in USA anyway, have to be 21. I think that shrike is a little upset by that. Sorry kids
I'm sorry Yodadude, but, since you have no check on anything, ill have to actually tell you that the average age in Evolution is about 20-30, and that myself, I'm 37. Now, i don't really see what that has to do with anything, but since you're a bit obsessed with it, might as well enlighten you.
Have a nice day.
Well then lets play some cards and see who comes out on top. I will have a great day and I hope you do the same!
Are you high?
Nope, just want to play some high stakes poker to settle this matter.
new image coming soon!! |

YodaMasterJedi
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:41:00 -
[358]
Originally by: Stained
Originally by: YodaMasterJedi
Originally by: Shrike
Originally by: YodaMasterJedi
Originally by: kuam shrike, you really are a pompus red-neck!
I think that maybe most of evolution is too young to play cards in USA anyway, have to be 21. I think that shrike is a little upset by that. Sorry kids
I'm sorry Yodadude, but, since you have no check on anything, ill have to actually tell you that the average age in Evolution is about 20-30, and that myself, I'm 37. Now, i don't really see what that has to do with anything, but since you're a bit obsessed with it, might as well enlighten you.
Have a nice day.
Well then lets play some cards and see who comes out on top. I will have a great day and I hope you do the same!
Are you high?
Nope, just want to play some high stakes poker to settle this matter.
new image coming soon!! |

Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:45:00 -
[359]
EVE is a game, dont make in game matters out of game issues please.
It's silly. Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:45:00 -
[360]
EVE is a game, dont make in game matters out of game issues please.
It's silly. Spawn of the Devil
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YodaMasterJedi
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:48:00 -
[361]
Originally by: Omniwar EVE is a game, dont make in game matters out of game issues please.
It's silly.
What's silly is the fact that everyone seems to be pointing fingers about stupid insureance claims and the fact that who is better at this and that, who started what. THAT is silly. That is why I am suggesting to screw the whole war and let's play some poker!
new image coming soon!! |

YodaMasterJedi
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:48:00 -
[362]
Originally by: Omniwar EVE is a game, dont make in game matters out of game issues please.
It's silly.
What's silly is the fact that everyone seems to be pointing fingers about stupid insureance claims and the fact that who is better at this and that, who started what. THAT is silly. That is why I am suggesting to screw the whole war and let's play some poker!
new image coming soon!! |

Raven DeBlade
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:49:00 -
[363]
Originally by: Omniwar EVE is a game, dont make in game matters out of game issues please.
It's silly.
The why do you "Ebolution" use out of game stuff like TS spies, Forum spies etc to get an INGAME advantage?
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees"
"Any statements made above this line are my persona" |

Raven DeBlade
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:49:00 -
[364]
Originally by: Omniwar EVE is a game, dont make in game matters out of game issues please.
It's silly.
The why do you "Ebolution" use out of game stuff like TS spies, Forum spies etc to get an INGAME advantage?
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees"
"Any statements made above this line are my persona" |

Bannion
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:53:00 -
[365]
Originally by: Shrike
Originally by: YodaMasterJedi
Originally by: kuam shrike, you really are a pompus red-neck!
I think that maybe most of evolution is too young to play cards in USA anyway, have to be 21. I think that shrike is a little upset by that. Sorry kids
I'm sorry Yodadude, but, since you have no check on anything, ill have to actually tell you that the average age in Evolution is about 20-30, and that myself, I'm 37. Now, i don't really see what that has to do with anything, but since you're a bit obsessed with it, might as well enlighten you.
Have a nice day.
Thanks Shrike, you made me feel young now 
Lets cut the crap about the kill list now guys, the Site is pretty accurate on our losses 
Although I still would like to see the losses of the ships that assisted you in the battle that were not in BOB, i.e. -NM-, DIE, ASS, Krom? AWM?
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Bannion
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:53:00 -
[366]
Originally by: Shrike
Originally by: YodaMasterJedi
Originally by: kuam shrike, you really are a pompus red-neck!
I think that maybe most of evolution is too young to play cards in USA anyway, have to be 21. I think that shrike is a little upset by that. Sorry kids
I'm sorry Yodadude, but, since you have no check on anything, ill have to actually tell you that the average age in Evolution is about 20-30, and that myself, I'm 37. Now, i don't really see what that has to do with anything, but since you're a bit obsessed with it, might as well enlighten you.
Have a nice day.
Thanks Shrike, you made me feel young now 
Lets cut the crap about the kill list now guys, the Site is pretty accurate on our losses 
Although I still would like to see the losses of the ships that assisted you in the battle that were not in BOB, i.e. -NM-, DIE, ASS, Krom? AWM?
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Panzer
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:54:00 -
[367]
Originally by: Raven DeBlade
Originally by: Omniwar EVE is a game, dont make in game matters out of game issues please.
It's silly.
The why do you "Ebolution" use out of game stuff like TS spies, Forum spies etc to get an INGAME advantage?
Erm and why do you guys use log off traps?
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Panzer
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:54:00 -
[368]
Originally by: Raven DeBlade
Originally by: Omniwar EVE is a game, dont make in game matters out of game issues please.
It's silly.
The why do you "Ebolution" use out of game stuff like TS spies, Forum spies etc to get an INGAME advantage?
Erm and why do you guys use log off traps?
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:55:00 -
[369]
Originally by: Panzer Erm and why do you guys use log off traps?
Can we leave that topic in the other thread please? Or do you want 2 more pages of 'waah, you use log on traps.... no, YOU do.. no, we don't, YOU, do.... waah...'? 
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:55:00 -
[370]
Originally by: Panzer Erm and why do you guys use log off traps?
Can we leave that topic in the other thread please? Or do you want 2 more pages of 'waah, you use log on traps.... no, YOU do.. no, we don't, YOU, do.... waah...'? 
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:56:00 -
[371]
Originally by: Raven DeBlade The why do you "Ebolution" use out of game stuff like TS spies, Forum spies etc to get an INGAME advantage?
Why don't you undock? --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:56:00 -
[372]
Originally by: Raven DeBlade The why do you "Ebolution" use out of game stuff like TS spies, Forum spies etc to get an INGAME advantage?
Why don't you undock? --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:56:00 -
[373]
Originally by: Raven DeBlade
Originally by: Omniwar EVE is a game, dont make in game matters out of game issues please.
It's silly.
The why do you "Ebolution" use out of game stuff like TS spies, Forum spies etc to get an INGAME advantage?
So thats something simular to asking for a high stake card poker game in rl to decide on an ingame war 
What people dont seem to get is that its your own mates who give us info, k? Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:56:00 -
[374]
Originally by: Raven DeBlade
Originally by: Omniwar EVE is a game, dont make in game matters out of game issues please.
It's silly.
The why do you "Ebolution" use out of game stuff like TS spies, Forum spies etc to get an INGAME advantage?
So thats something simular to asking for a high stake card poker game in rl to decide on an ingame war 
What people dont seem to get is that its your own mates who give us info, k? Spawn of the Devil
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Sun Wu
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:13:00 -
[375]
Originally by: Raven DeBlade
Originally by: Omniwar EVE is a game, dont make in game matters out of game issues please.
It's silly.
The why do you "Ebolution" use out of game stuff like TS spies, Forum spies etc to get an INGAME advantage?
If you think TS and forums are out of game, don't use them. Because they are out of game afterall, so they don't have anything to do with it right? OR, if you choose to use an outside tool as part of your playing the game, then it simply put is ingame. It is part of you playing the game, it's part of what we'll try to use to our advantage. ________________________________
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Sun Wu
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:13:00 -
[376]
Originally by: Raven DeBlade
Originally by: Omniwar EVE is a game, dont make in game matters out of game issues please.
It's silly.
The why do you "Ebolution" use out of game stuff like TS spies, Forum spies etc to get an INGAME advantage?
If you think TS and forums are out of game, don't use them. Because they are out of game afterall, so they don't have anything to do with it right? OR, if you choose to use an outside tool as part of your playing the game, then it simply put is ingame. It is part of you playing the game, it's part of what we'll try to use to our advantage. ________________________________
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snerdly
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:37:00 -
[377]
Edited by: snerdly on 21/11/2004 19:40:11 hm, id say at this point that both sides in this thread have made all of their points, many times over infact, and now this will soon be reduced to simple smacktalk... bleah
id say its about time for a lock. |

snerdly
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:37:00 -
[378]
Edited by: snerdly on 21/11/2004 19:40:11 hm, id say at this point that both sides in this thread have made all of their points, many times over infact, and now this will soon be reduced to simple smacktalk... bleah
id say its about time for a lock. |

dimensionZ
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:38:00 -
[379]
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: Carmen Priano Mystiel; the kill board asset loss counter is an indicator of total goods value destroyed -- this is based off of the insurance payment. Actual asset value lost will be, what -- 30 to 35 percent of this? Still, it -is- a good indicator for what or how much was destroyed. Losing 3 billion in a given day shows that a large quantity of battleships were destroyed -- and as much as you want to claim otherwise, BoB tries its damnedest to get all parties to file their death mails, so the disproportionate kill/death ratio -is- in fact quite accurate.
It is a very rigged indicator, however, because it counts all tech 2 ships far below their actual value. 
Well, its difficult to know the real values. Yes, we could set other values for T2 ships, but again, it depends of regions, day, ... So, unless we have 10 people doing only that all day, checking price everywhere, we'll stick to CCP values. Its just an indicator. Nothing else.
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:38:00 -
[380]
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: Carmen Priano Mystiel; the kill board asset loss counter is an indicator of total goods value destroyed -- this is based off of the insurance payment. Actual asset value lost will be, what -- 30 to 35 percent of this? Still, it -is- a good indicator for what or how much was destroyed. Losing 3 billion in a given day shows that a large quantity of battleships were destroyed -- and as much as you want to claim otherwise, BoB tries its damnedest to get all parties to file their death mails, so the disproportionate kill/death ratio -is- in fact quite accurate.
It is a very rigged indicator, however, because it counts all tech 2 ships far below their actual value. 
Well, its difficult to know the real values. Yes, we could set other values for T2 ships, but again, it depends of regions, day, ... So, unless we have 10 people doing only that all day, checking price everywhere, we'll stick to CCP values. Its just an indicator. Nothing else.
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Lygos
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:52:00 -
[381]
Originally by: Sun Wu If you think TS and forums are out of game, don't use them. Because they are out of game afterall, so they don't have anything to do with it right? OR, if you choose to use an outside tool as part of your playing the game, then it simply put is ingame. It is part of you playing the game, it's part of what we'll try to use to our advantage.
Still sounds rather similar to criminal wiretapping to me. Why you would desire to violate a variety of laws common to numerous countries in order to get the edge in a video game is beyond me.
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Lygos
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:52:00 -
[382]
Originally by: Sun Wu If you think TS and forums are out of game, don't use them. Because they are out of game afterall, so they don't have anything to do with it right? OR, if you choose to use an outside tool as part of your playing the game, then it simply put is ingame. It is part of you playing the game, it's part of what we'll try to use to our advantage.
Still sounds rather similar to criminal wiretapping to me. Why you would desire to violate a variety of laws common to numerous countries in order to get the edge in a video game is beyond me.
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:55:00 -
[383]
Originally by: Lygos
Originally by: Sun Wu If you think TS and forums are out of game, don't use them. Because they are out of game afterall, so they don't have anything to do with it right? OR, if you choose to use an outside tool as part of your playing the game, then it simply put is ingame. It is part of you playing the game, it's part of what we'll try to use to our advantage.
Still sounds rather similar to criminal wiretapping to me. Why you would desire to violate a variety of laws common to numerous countries in order to get the edge in a video game is beyond me.
Nothing virtual is private, and some people try to pretend it is, which in reality it isn't and probobaly never will be.
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Hair is Over-rated.
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:55:00 -
[384]
Originally by: Lygos
Originally by: Sun Wu If you think TS and forums are out of game, don't use them. Because they are out of game afterall, so they don't have anything to do with it right? OR, if you choose to use an outside tool as part of your playing the game, then it simply put is ingame. It is part of you playing the game, it's part of what we'll try to use to our advantage.
Still sounds rather similar to criminal wiretapping to me. Why you would desire to violate a variety of laws common to numerous countries in order to get the edge in a video game is beyond me.
Nothing virtual is private, and some people try to pretend it is, which in reality it isn't and probobaly never will be.
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Hair is Over-rated.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:57:00 -
[385]
Originally by: Lygos
Originally by: Sun Wu If you think TS and forums are out of game, don't use them. Because they are out of game afterall, so they don't have anything to do with it right? OR, if you choose to use an outside tool as part of your playing the game, then it simply put is ingame. It is part of you playing the game, it's part of what we'll try to use to our advantage.
Still sounds rather similar to criminal wiretapping to me. Why you would desire to violate a variety of laws common to numerous countries in order to get the edge in a video game is beyond me.
Their own friends give us info, hard to understand?
No it isnt, now read and understand, then get back to us. Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:57:00 -
[386]
Originally by: Lygos
Originally by: Sun Wu If you think TS and forums are out of game, don't use them. Because they are out of game afterall, so they don't have anything to do with it right? OR, if you choose to use an outside tool as part of your playing the game, then it simply put is ingame. It is part of you playing the game, it's part of what we'll try to use to our advantage.
Still sounds rather similar to criminal wiretapping to me. Why you would desire to violate a variety of laws common to numerous countries in order to get the edge in a video game is beyond me.
Their own friends give us info, hard to understand?
No it isnt, now read and understand, then get back to us. Spawn of the Devil
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Morela
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:59:00 -
[387]
Edited by: Morela on 21/11/2004 20:03:49
Originally by: DIetDew Edited by: DIetDew on 21/11/2004 14:27:20 Edited by: DIetDew on 21/11/2004 14:27:03
Originally by: Malius Of course you did. I mean.. you say so right? So it must be true :)
No, we say so because we have the killmails to prove it. Please look at www.killboard.net and feel free to not talk again. Here ill break it down for you. Since sat, i count 57 BATTLESHIP losses for NSA and FU.
The funny thing is... Even if every battleship kill you say you got is true.. We don't even really notice that kind of loss. And with each battle our tactics improve, our leadership improves, and so does our kill/loss rate..
So please.. Keep the fleets coming.
You're just training our recruits 
PS, one of the problems is that your kill board doesn't include AWM and some of the other corporations that fly with you that we snagged a few of. :) Not saying there was like 50 of them or anything, but it does change things a bit. 
http://img95.exs.cx/img95/9594/gunman6yh.gif |

Morela
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:59:00 -
[388]
Edited by: Morela on 21/11/2004 20:03:49
Originally by: DIetDew Edited by: DIetDew on 21/11/2004 14:27:20 Edited by: DIetDew on 21/11/2004 14:27:03
Originally by: Malius Of course you did. I mean.. you say so right? So it must be true :)
No, we say so because we have the killmails to prove it. Please look at www.killboard.net and feel free to not talk again. Here ill break it down for you. Since sat, i count 57 BATTLESHIP losses for NSA and FU.
The funny thing is... Even if every battleship kill you say you got is true.. We don't even really notice that kind of loss. And with each battle our tactics improve, our leadership improves, and so does our kill/loss rate..
So please.. Keep the fleets coming.
You're just training our recruits 
PS, one of the problems is that your kill board doesn't include AWM and some of the other corporations that fly with you that we snagged a few of. :) Not saying there was like 50 of them or anything, but it does change things a bit. 
http://img95.exs.cx/img95/9594/gunman6yh.gif |

Mirus Crosius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:07:00 -
[389]
It was pretty crushing to hear about all of this war business in the first instance. To come here and hear all this from both sides; devastating.
I have always considered Evolution and RKK friends rather than enemies; so this sucks...
...from every perspective. 
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Mirus Crosius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:07:00 -
[390]
It was pretty crushing to hear about all of this war business in the first instance. To come here and hear all this from both sides; devastating.
I have always considered Evolution and RKK friends rather than enemies; so this sucks...
...from every perspective. 
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:16:00 -
[391]
Why was you crushed ? Its a game you should enjoy the challange 
Anyhow, why do people think because we aint shot you before we are your friends 
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:16:00 -
[392]
Why was you crushed ? Its a game you should enjoy the challange 
Anyhow, why do people think because we aint shot you before we are your friends 
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Shrike
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:17:00 -
[393]
Originally by: Morela The funny thing is... Even if every battleship kill you say you got is true..
Are you disputing any of the posted kills and if so which one? Or are you saying that we post fake killmails the whole day?
"If they are true" Which one is not true?
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Shrike
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:17:00 -
[394]
Originally by: Morela The funny thing is... Even if every battleship kill you say you got is true..
Are you disputing any of the posted kills and if so which one? Or are you saying that we post fake killmails the whole day?
"If they are true" Which one is not true?
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Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:35:00 -
[395]
Originally by: TheJay I just read through 8 pages of hot air, I want my 20 minutes back
Who do I have to sue... 
I gotta agree with my former corp mate. Ive been offline most the weekend, wanted to catch up on the news. Instead of news im getting my Schlongs bigger than your Schlong.
Pointless...lock it.
Director of Empire Ops and Chief Carebear |

Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:35:00 -
[396]
Originally by: TheJay I just read through 8 pages of hot air, I want my 20 minutes back
Who do I have to sue... 
I gotta agree with my former corp mate. Ive been offline most the weekend, wanted to catch up on the news. Instead of news im getting my Schlongs bigger than your Schlong.
Pointless...lock it.
Director of Empire Ops and Chief Carebear |

Alt duJour
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:38:00 -
[397]
Originally by: Mirus Crosius It was pretty crushing to hear about all of this war business in the first instance. To come here and hear all this from both sides; devastating.
I have always considered Evolution and RKK friends rather than enemies; so this sucks...
...from every perspective. 
Seconded... didn't expect anything different from Evol really, it keeps real allegiance only to itself. But to see Rkk guys boasting here about silly killboard like it's the only thing that matters... it's quite gutting. --;
And to the idiots with the ol' worn out "it's a game" argument... exactly right. It's just a game, and everything in it is virtual, precious battleship kills included. None of it is real... except for other players' feelings; these including trust and/or respect.
Strangely enough, you generally lose the latter by stepping on the former, rather than gain it.
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Alt duJour
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:38:00 -
[398]
Originally by: Mirus Crosius It was pretty crushing to hear about all of this war business in the first instance. To come here and hear all this from both sides; devastating.
I have always considered Evolution and RKK friends rather than enemies; so this sucks...
...from every perspective. 
Seconded... didn't expect anything different from Evol really, it keeps real allegiance only to itself. But to see Rkk guys boasting here about silly killboard like it's the only thing that matters... it's quite gutting. --;
And to the idiots with the ol' worn out "it's a game" argument... exactly right. It's just a game, and everything in it is virtual, precious battleship kills included. None of it is real... except for other players' feelings; these including trust and/or respect.
Strangely enough, you generally lose the latter by stepping on the former, rather than gain it.
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:38:00 -
[399]
Originally by: Shrike
Originally by: Morela The funny thing is... Even if every battleship kill you say you got is true..
Are you disputing any of the posted kills and if so which one? Or are you saying that we post fake killmails the whole day?
"If they are true" Which one is not true?
It wouldn't be the first time after H. Erectus faked this killmail (PSA1SWIPE) wasn't even in the same system at the time of the killmail.: Fake killmail.
Have a nice day. -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:38:00 -
[400]
Originally by: Shrike
Originally by: Morela The funny thing is... Even if every battleship kill you say you got is true..
Are you disputing any of the posted kills and if so which one? Or are you saying that we post fake killmails the whole day?
"If they are true" Which one is not true?
It wouldn't be the first time after H. Erectus faked this killmail (PSA1SWIPE) wasn't even in the same system at the time of the killmail.: Fake killmail.
Have a nice day. -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:39:00 -
[401]
Yes we all no PSAWIPE lied and said he didn't lie when he clearly did.
He also lied about not using PDU's when clearly seen in a past kill mail he does.
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:39:00 -
[402]
Yes we all no PSAWIPE lied and said he didn't lie when he clearly did.
He also lied about not using PDU's when clearly seen in a past kill mail he does.
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:43:00 -
[403]
Originally by: sutty Yes we all no PSAWIPE lied and said he didn't lie when he clearly did. He also lied about not using PDU's when clearly seen in a past kill mail he does.
Originally by: PSA1SWIPE
thats a complete fake i wasnt even online that time , since i was sleeping after watching the movies oh oh and before that i parked my ship 2 jumps out of BKG before i went to see teh movies.
We have multiple people confirming his story.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:43:00 -
[404]
Originally by: sutty Yes we all no PSAWIPE lied and said he didn't lie when he clearly did. He also lied about not using PDU's when clearly seen in a past kill mail he does.
Originally by: PSA1SWIPE
thats a complete fake i wasnt even online that time , since i was sleeping after watching the movies oh oh and before that i parked my ship 2 jumps out of BKG before i went to see teh movies.
We have multiple people confirming his story.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:46:00 -
[405]
Originally by: Presidio We have multiple people confirming his story.
Of course you do, lol.  --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:46:00 -
[406]
Originally by: Presidio We have multiple people confirming his story.
Of course you do, lol.  --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Jakal
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:47:00 -
[407]
just because a lie gets repeated dosen't make it the truth. *cough*USA*cough*Iraq
-Adapt and Overcome.
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Jakal
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:47:00 -
[408]
just because a lie gets repeated dosen't make it the truth. *cough*USA*cough*Iraq
-Adapt and Overcome.
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Shrike
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:47:00 -
[409]
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: Shrike
Originally by: Morela The funny thing is... Even if every battleship kill you say you got is true..
Are you disputing any of the posted kills and if so which one? Or are you saying that we post fake killmails the whole day?
"If they are true" Which one is not true?
It wouldn't be the first time after H. Erectus faked this killmail (PSA1SWIPE) wasn't even in the same system at the time of the killmail.: Fake killmail.
Have a nice day.
I'm not speaking to you Presidio, im speaking to NSA/FU, we all know you are claiming thats a fake killmail for a crow or whatever frigate it was.
So again, what kill are disputing NSA/FU? Point me to the exact ones.
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Shrike
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:47:00 -
[410]
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: Shrike
Originally by: Morela The funny thing is... Even if every battleship kill you say you got is true..
Are you disputing any of the posted kills and if so which one? Or are you saying that we post fake killmails the whole day?
"If they are true" Which one is not true?
It wouldn't be the first time after H. Erectus faked this killmail (PSA1SWIPE) wasn't even in the same system at the time of the killmail.: Fake killmail.
Have a nice day.
I'm not speaking to you Presidio, im speaking to NSA/FU, we all know you are claiming thats a fake killmail for a crow or whatever frigate it was.
So again, what kill are disputing NSA/FU? Point me to the exact ones.
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TheFatman
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:50:00 -
[411]
Originally by: Jakal just because a lie gets repeated dosen't make it the truth. *cough*USA*cough*Iraq
Damn I have a cough to *cough Axis of useful idiots, only caring about doing right thing not filling their coffers with blood money from the UN and ******s, oil for food program * cough
think that cleared my throat
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TheFatman
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:50:00 -
[412]
Originally by: Jakal just because a lie gets repeated dosen't make it the truth. *cough*USA*cough*Iraq
Damn I have a cough to *cough Axis of useful idiots, only caring about doing right thing not filling their coffers with blood money from the UN and ******s, oil for food program * cough
think that cleared my throat
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:52:00 -
[413]
Originally by: TheFatman
Originally by: Jakal just because a lie gets repeated dosen't make it the truth. *cough*USA*cough*Iraq
Damn I have a cough to *cough Axis of useful idiots, only caring about doing right thing not filling their coffers with blood money from the UN and ******s, oil for food program * cough
think that cleared my throat
LOL fatman  --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:52:00 -
[414]
Originally by: TheFatman
Originally by: Jakal just because a lie gets repeated dosen't make it the truth. *cough*USA*cough*Iraq
Damn I have a cough to *cough Axis of useful idiots, only caring about doing right thing not filling their coffers with blood money from the UN and ******s, oil for food program * cough
think that cleared my throat
LOL fatman  --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Zhuge Liang
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:55:00 -
[415]
Keep the thread on topic or it will be locked. 
ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming) |

Zhuge Liang
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:55:00 -
[416]
Keep the thread on topic or it will be locked. 
ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming) |

The Clash
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Posted - 2004.11.21 22:25:00 -
[417]
Edited by: The Clash on 21/11/2004 22:33:59
Originally by: sutty Yes we all no PSAWIPE lied and said he didn't lie when he clearly did.
He also lied about not using PDU's when clearly seen in a past kill mail he does.
in the past maybe but then no , i doubt i ever used em , it says CARGO 
oh and for me saying i wanst there , i wa sthere and i cleared that mistake up as well , why not post screenie sthen of teh fight or gamelogs , oops gamelogs can be faked to
if it was a bug then so be it but he didnt kill me that night .
then again teh original one is back and i can keep on discussing it but you wont admit , liek i said before i think , discussing with ya is like talkin to a brick wall , useless .
anywayz have fun and behave
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The Clash
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Posted - 2004.11.21 22:25:00 -
[418]
Edited by: The Clash on 21/11/2004 22:33:59
Originally by: sutty Yes we all no PSAWIPE lied and said he didn't lie when he clearly did.
He also lied about not using PDU's when clearly seen in a past kill mail he does.
in the past maybe but then no , i doubt i ever used em , it says CARGO 
oh and for me saying i wanst there , i wa sthere and i cleared that mistake up as well , why not post screenie sthen of teh fight or gamelogs , oops gamelogs can be faked to
if it was a bug then so be it but he didnt kill me that night .
then again teh original one is back and i can keep on discussing it but you wont admit , liek i said before i think , discussing with ya is like talkin to a brick wall , useless .
anywayz have fun and behave
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Mirus Crosius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 22:52:00 -
[419]
Edited by: Mirus Crosius on 21/11/2004 22:57:24 Edited by: Mirus Crosius on 21/11/2004 22:55:49
Originally by: sutty Why was you crushed ? Its a game you should enjoy the challange 

The crushing part was (entirely from my own perpspective) it happening very quickly (edit: and not being around to see it, er, "blossom"). From my own opinion (not MLM as a whole), I prefer my targets to be those engaging in piracy.
As far as I know, EVOL and RKK are not pirates. It's just a frustrating change of direction; from my point of view.
Originally by: sutty
Anyhow, why do people think because we aint shot you before we are your friends 
Yes, well, perhaps we have had had little dealings; you and I. But I am friendly with some members of your corporation and even more so, RKK. I'd rather fight (when I get the chance) people I (or my corp) haven't fought alongside in the past. This may not include you personally, Sutty, or EVOL, but it certainly does include RKK.
A challenge it may be; and yes it is just game. But when I read some of the posts on here , maybe you should be telling them that.
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Mirus Crosius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 22:52:00 -
[420]
Edited by: Mirus Crosius on 21/11/2004 22:57:24 Edited by: Mirus Crosius on 21/11/2004 22:55:49
Originally by: sutty Why was you crushed ? Its a game you should enjoy the challange 

The crushing part was (entirely from my own perpspective) it happening very quickly (edit: and not being around to see it, er, "blossom"). From my own opinion (not MLM as a whole), I prefer my targets to be those engaging in piracy.
As far as I know, EVOL and RKK are not pirates. It's just a frustrating change of direction; from my point of view.
Originally by: sutty
Anyhow, why do people think because we aint shot you before we are your friends 
Yes, well, perhaps we have had had little dealings; you and I. But I am friendly with some members of your corporation and even more so, RKK. I'd rather fight (when I get the chance) people I (or my corp) haven't fought alongside in the past. This may not include you personally, Sutty, or EVOL, but it certainly does include RKK.
A challenge it may be; and yes it is just game. But when I read some of the posts on here , maybe you should be telling them that.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.21 23:08:00 -
[421]
Edited by: Jazz Bo on 21/11/2004 23:13:45
Originally by: Omniwar
sure people have complaned about not 100% posts on losses
Can I complain some more?
You never posted you Claw loss. Lexus666 never posted his Raven loss. Bob and Occidus didn't post their friggy losses.
AsaR never posted her Apoc loss, and Antroxu didn't post his Thorax and pod losses.
- m0o have posted some of their Celes kills, but none of their losses
- Evolution have posted their Celes kills, but none of their losses
- Atuk have posted some (not all) of their kills - including ones made in gangs with SA - but none of their losses.
In fact, the only "losses" posted are one BNC frigate, and one Gangsta Nation Scorpion (one of our pilots appears on the kill mail because he was attacking the Scorp in his Thorax when the BoB fleet arrived and he warped off IIRC).
That doesn't sound very accurate to me. Or is it a rule that you must post no losses to Celes?
Thank you.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.21 23:08:00 -
[422]
Edited by: Jazz Bo on 21/11/2004 23:13:45
Originally by: Omniwar
sure people have complaned about not 100% posts on losses
Can I complain some more?
You never posted you Claw loss. Lexus666 never posted his Raven loss. Bob and Occidus didn't post their friggy losses.
AsaR never posted her Apoc loss, and Antroxu didn't post his Thorax and pod losses.
- m0o have posted some of their Celes kills, but none of their losses
- Evolution have posted their Celes kills, but none of their losses
- Atuk have posted some (not all) of their kills - including ones made in gangs with SA - but none of their losses.
In fact, the only "losses" posted are one BNC frigate, and one Gangsta Nation Scorpion (one of our pilots appears on the kill mail because he was attacking the Scorp in his Thorax when the BoB fleet arrived and he warped off IIRC).
That doesn't sound very accurate to me. Or is it a rule that you must post no losses to Celes?
Thank you.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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TWD
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Posted - 2004.11.21 23:30:00 -
[423]
Edited by: TWD on 21/11/2004 23:53:40
Originally by: Jazz bo
You never posted you Claw loss. Lexus666 never posted his Raven loss. Bob and Occidus didn't post their friggy losses.
ahh, we're also missing 6 celes battleships on the board that m0o killed.
hmm edit.
actually, the killboard was against PA only, and since recently it keeps track on kills/losses against all our enemy's.
so expect some kills and losses from non-PA to be missing before that date  |

TWD
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Posted - 2004.11.21 23:30:00 -
[424]
Edited by: TWD on 21/11/2004 23:53:40
Originally by: Jazz bo
You never posted you Claw loss. Lexus666 never posted his Raven loss. Bob and Occidus didn't post their friggy losses.
ahh, we're also missing 6 celes battleships on the board that m0o killed.
hmm edit.
actually, the killboard was against PA only, and since recently it keeps track on kills/losses against all our enemy's.
so expect some kills and losses from non-PA to be missing before that date  |

drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.11.21 23:33:00 -
[425]
how long have I got before the thread degenerates into baseless accusations from our victims?
Oh.. It already has?
Why do I always miss these  .
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.11.21 23:33:00 -
[426]
how long have I got before the thread degenerates into baseless accusations from our victims?
Oh.. It already has?
Why do I always miss these  .
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Levka
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Posted - 2004.11.21 23:46:00 -
[427]
Edited by: Levka on 21/11/2004 23:55:03 lol, i confirm that I was killed by BoB in czd.....that part of killboard is accurate :)
Why do ppl get so aggitated about this BOB issue. I'm here to have fun, if it means me getting killed that no problem. I'm not an experienced PVPer but i'm willing to sacrifice my ships to learn. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you dont have anything SMART to say....say it Often and Loud
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Levka
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Posted - 2004.11.21 23:46:00 -
[428]
Edited by: Levka on 21/11/2004 23:55:03 lol, i confirm that I was killed by BoB in czd.....that part of killboard is accurate :)
Why do ppl get so aggitated about this BOB issue. I'm here to have fun, if it means me getting killed that no problem. I'm not an experienced PVPer but i'm willing to sacrifice my ships to learn. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you dont have anything SMART to say....say it Often and Loud
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.11.21 23:59:00 -
[429]
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: sutty Yes we all no PSAWIPE lied and said he didn't lie when he clearly did. He also lied about not using PDU's when clearly seen in a past kill mail he does.
Originally by: PSA1SWIPE
thats a complete fake i wasnt even online that time , since i was sleeping after watching the movies oh oh and before that i parked my ship 2 jumps out of BKG before i went to see teh movies.
We have multiple people confirming his story.
You have mulitple people using the same account not to mention cdi not posting any losses on the pa board
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.11.21 23:59:00 -
[430]
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: sutty Yes we all no PSAWIPE lied and said he didn't lie when he clearly did. He also lied about not using PDU's when clearly seen in a past kill mail he does.
Originally by: PSA1SWIPE
thats a complete fake i wasnt even online that time , since i was sleeping after watching the movies oh oh and before that i parked my ship 2 jumps out of BKG before i went to see teh movies.
We have multiple people confirming his story.
You have mulitple people using the same account not to mention cdi not posting any losses on the pa board
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Majin Buu
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Posted - 2004.11.22 00:05:00 -
[431]
Sunday 21 November 2004 [47 battleships destroyed] [4 battleships lost]
LMAO WTFPWND
very nice going guys :)
BoB KillBoard |

Majin Buu
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Posted - 2004.11.22 00:05:00 -
[432]
Sunday 21 November 2004 [47 battleships destroyed] [4 battleships lost]
LMAO WTFPWND
very nice going guys :)
BoB KillBoard |

Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.22 00:05:00 -
[433]
what about locking this thread! and have fun out there instead!
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.22 00:05:00 -
[434]
what about locking this thread! and have fun out there instead!
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agentsmitty
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Posted - 2004.11.22 00:06:00 -
[435]
Originally by: Morela Edited by: Morela on 21/11/2004 20:03:49
Originally by: DIetDew Edited by: DIetDew on 21/11/2004 14:27:20 Edited by: DIetDew on 21/11/2004 14:27:03
Originally by: Malius Of course you did. I mean.. you say so right? So it must be true :)
No, we say so because we have the killmails to prove it. Please look at www.killboard.net and feel free to not talk again. Here ill break it down for you. Since sat, i count 57 BATTLESHIP losses for NSA and FU.
The funny thing is... Even if every battleship kill you say you got is true.. We don't even really notice that kind of loss. And with each battle our tactics improve, our leadership improves, and so does our kill/loss rate..
So please.. Keep the fleets coming.
You're just training our recruits 
PS, one of the problems is that your kill board doesn't include AWM and some of the other corporations that fly with you that we snagged a few of. :) Not saying there was like 50 of them or anything, but it does change things a bit. 

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agentsmitty
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Posted - 2004.11.22 00:06:00 -
[436]
Originally by: Morela Edited by: Morela on 21/11/2004 20:03:49
Originally by: DIetDew Edited by: DIetDew on 21/11/2004 14:27:20 Edited by: DIetDew on 21/11/2004 14:27:03
Originally by: Malius Of course you did. I mean.. you say so right? So it must be true :)
No, we say so because we have the killmails to prove it. Please look at www.killboard.net and feel free to not talk again. Here ill break it down for you. Since sat, i count 57 BATTLESHIP losses for NSA and FU.
The funny thing is... Even if every battleship kill you say you got is true.. We don't even really notice that kind of loss. And with each battle our tactics improve, our leadership improves, and so does our kill/loss rate..
So please.. Keep the fleets coming.
You're just training our recruits 
PS, one of the problems is that your kill board doesn't include AWM and some of the other corporations that fly with you that we snagged a few of. :) Not saying there was like 50 of them or anything, but it does change things a bit. 

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sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.22 00:35:00 -
[437]
Majin Buu
heh heh
Nice bob record there, wp to you guys in curse as well 
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.22 00:35:00 -
[438]
Majin Buu
heh heh
Nice bob record there, wp to you guys in curse as well 
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H Erectus
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Posted - 2004.11.22 00:37:00 -
[439]
hey, presidiot, try harder.
psa1swipe was online at that time. he talked smack in local(poorly) for an hour previously, then sat at the station doing nothing for another 20 min, dying about a half an hour after his learning session in local. i don't care how many liars you put together to lie, you will still be(liars). with bookends like krull telling me i should 1v1 him(him being his 3 accounts) and people in your own corp who dishonor prearranged 1v1's, like firekiller, you have absolutely no legs to stand on.
this isn't the first time i've had some newbie claim something about what i have said is untrue. this isn't new. reclaimer swore i lost my magnate. he still swore i lost it, even after i put it on escrow in nonni for max. i've been accused by newbies from the ca that i've hacked their ts and dos attacked them. i've had newbies lying about things concerning me since this game came out. you and your weak alliance members are no different.
so, again, you're wrong, im right. you're not good at debating, i am. you fail at everything aside from breathing. you're a liar. you're a hypocrit. you're weak. i am greater than you in every aspect of life. |

H Erectus
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Posted - 2004.11.22 00:37:00 -
[440]
hey, presidiot, try harder.
psa1swipe was online at that time. he talked smack in local(poorly) for an hour previously, then sat at the station doing nothing for another 20 min, dying about a half an hour after his learning session in local. i don't care how many liars you put together to lie, you will still be(liars). with bookends like krull telling me i should 1v1 him(him being his 3 accounts) and people in your own corp who dishonor prearranged 1v1's, like firekiller, you have absolutely no legs to stand on.
this isn't the first time i've had some newbie claim something about what i have said is untrue. this isn't new. reclaimer swore i lost my magnate. he still swore i lost it, even after i put it on escrow in nonni for max. i've been accused by newbies from the ca that i've hacked their ts and dos attacked them. i've had newbies lying about things concerning me since this game came out. you and your weak alliance members are no different.
so, again, you're wrong, im right. you're not good at debating, i am. you fail at everything aside from breathing. you're a liar. you're a hypocrit. you're weak. i am greater than you in every aspect of life. |
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The Clash
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Posted - 2004.11.22 00:57:00 -
[441]
Originally by: H Erectus hey, presidiot, try harder.
psa1swipe was online at that time. he talked smack in local(poorly) for an hour previously, then sat at the station doing nothing for another 20 min, dying about a half an hour after his learning session in local. i don't care how many liars you put together to lie, you will still be(liars). with bookends like krull telling me i should 1v1 him(him being his 3 accounts) and people in your own corp who dishonor prearranged 1v1's, like firekiller, you have absolutely no legs to stand on.
this isn't the first time i've had some newbie claim something about what i have said is untrue. this isn't new. reclaimer swore i lost my magnate. he still swore i lost it, even after i put it on escrow in nonni for max. i've been accused by newbies from the ca that i've hacked their ts and dos attacked them. i've had newbies lying about things concerning me since this game came out. you and your weak alliance members are no different.
so, again, you're wrong, im right. you're not good at debating, i am. you fail at everything aside from breathing. you're a liar. you're a hypocrit. you're weak. i am greater than you in every aspect of life.
screenies of kilmail then plz 
dude you didnt kill me at that time or it was a bug that acc couldnt even use tech II guns
youre so full of s-hit , admit it
or dd i really hit a nerve 
then again not my prob no more im gone and you keep lie about it , and then saying were a bunch of kiddies  . . _________________
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The Clash
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Posted - 2004.11.22 00:57:00 -
[442]
Originally by: H Erectus hey, presidiot, try harder.
psa1swipe was online at that time. he talked smack in local(poorly) for an hour previously, then sat at the station doing nothing for another 20 min, dying about a half an hour after his learning session in local. i don't care how many liars you put together to lie, you will still be(liars). with bookends like krull telling me i should 1v1 him(him being his 3 accounts) and people in your own corp who dishonor prearranged 1v1's, like firekiller, you have absolutely no legs to stand on.
this isn't the first time i've had some newbie claim something about what i have said is untrue. this isn't new. reclaimer swore i lost my magnate. he still swore i lost it, even after i put it on escrow in nonni for max. i've been accused by newbies from the ca that i've hacked their ts and dos attacked them. i've had newbies lying about things concerning me since this game came out. you and your weak alliance members are no different.
so, again, you're wrong, im right. you're not good at debating, i am. you fail at everything aside from breathing. you're a liar. you're a hypocrit. you're weak. i am greater than you in every aspect of life.
screenies of kilmail then plz 
dude you didnt kill me at that time or it was a bug that acc couldnt even use tech II guns
youre so full of s-hit , admit it
or dd i really hit a nerve 
then again not my prob no more im gone and you keep lie about it , and then saying were a bunch of kiddies  . . _________________
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.22 01:15:00 -
[443]
Originally by: The Clash
Originally by: H Erectus hey, presidiot, try harder.
psa1swipe was online at that time. he talked smack in local(poorly) for an hour previously, then sat at the station doing nothing for another 20 min, dying about a half an hour after his learning session in local. i don't care how many liars you put together to lie, you will still be(liars). with bookends like krull telling me i should 1v1 him(him being his 3 accounts) and people in your own corp who dishonor prearranged 1v1's, like firekiller, you have absolutely no legs to stand on.
this isn't the first time i've had some newbie claim something about what i have said is untrue. this isn't new. reclaimer swore i lost my magnate. he still swore i lost it, even after i put it on escrow in nonni for max. i've been accused by newbies from the ca that i've hacked their ts and dos attacked them. i've had newbies lying about things concerning me since this game came out. you and your weak alliance members are no different.
so, again, you're wrong, im right. you're not good at debating, i am. you fail at everything aside from breathing. you're a liar. you're a hypocrit. you're weak. i am greater than you in every aspect of life.
screenies of kilmail then plz 
dude you didnt kill me at that time or it was a bug that acc couldnt even use tech II guns
youre so full of s-hit , admit it
or dd i really hit a nerve 
then again not my prob no more im gone and you keep lie about it , and then saying were a bunch of kiddies  . .
Wrong account OPPS ?
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.22 01:15:00 -
[444]
Originally by: The Clash
Originally by: H Erectus hey, presidiot, try harder.
psa1swipe was online at that time. he talked smack in local(poorly) for an hour previously, then sat at the station doing nothing for another 20 min, dying about a half an hour after his learning session in local. i don't care how many liars you put together to lie, you will still be(liars). with bookends like krull telling me i should 1v1 him(him being his 3 accounts) and people in your own corp who dishonor prearranged 1v1's, like firekiller, you have absolutely no legs to stand on.
this isn't the first time i've had some newbie claim something about what i have said is untrue. this isn't new. reclaimer swore i lost my magnate. he still swore i lost it, even after i put it on escrow in nonni for max. i've been accused by newbies from the ca that i've hacked their ts and dos attacked them. i've had newbies lying about things concerning me since this game came out. you and your weak alliance members are no different.
so, again, you're wrong, im right. you're not good at debating, i am. you fail at everything aside from breathing. you're a liar. you're a hypocrit. you're weak. i am greater than you in every aspect of life.
screenies of kilmail then plz 
dude you didnt kill me at that time or it was a bug that acc couldnt even use tech II guns
youre so full of s-hit , admit it
or dd i really hit a nerve 
then again not my prob no more im gone and you keep lie about it , and then saying were a bunch of kiddies  . .
Wrong account OPPS ?
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H Erectus
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Posted - 2004.11.22 01:22:00 -
[445]
HI, DOES EVERY PA HAVE 2 OR 3 ACCOUNTS THEY LIKE TO LOG ON SAME PLACE SAME TIME OR IS IT ALL COINCIDENCE? |

H Erectus
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Posted - 2004.11.22 01:22:00 -
[446]
HI, DOES EVERY PA HAVE 2 OR 3 ACCOUNTS THEY LIKE TO LOG ON SAME PLACE SAME TIME OR IS IT ALL COINCIDENCE? |

Kretchi
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Posted - 2004.11.22 01:26:00 -
[447]
Originally by: H Erectus HI, DOES EVERY PA HAVE 2 OR 3 ACCOUNTS THEY LIKE TO LOG ON SAME PLACE SAME TIME OR IS IT ALL COINCIDENCE?
WHERE IS THAT DAMN CAPSLOCK BUTTON AGAIN? 
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Kretchi
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Posted - 2004.11.22 01:26:00 -
[448]
Originally by: H Erectus HI, DOES EVERY PA HAVE 2 OR 3 ACCOUNTS THEY LIKE TO LOG ON SAME PLACE SAME TIME OR IS IT ALL COINCIDENCE?
WHERE IS THAT DAMN CAPSLOCK BUTTON AGAIN? 
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.11.22 01:28:00 -
[449]
Somebody stole it a looooooooooong time ago.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.11.22 01:28:00 -
[450]
Somebody stole it a looooooooooong time ago.
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Levka
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Posted - 2004.11.22 02:05:00 -
[451]
Edited by: Levka on 22/11/2004 02:07:54 Edited by: Levka on 22/11/2004 02:07:40 I will be 1st to say that we had a very good fight tonight.....
On a side note, please stop flaming. --------------------------------------------- If you dont have anything SMART to say.....say if Often and Loud
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Levka
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Posted - 2004.11.22 02:05:00 -
[452]
Edited by: Levka on 22/11/2004 02:07:54 Edited by: Levka on 22/11/2004 02:07:40 I will be 1st to say that we had a very good fight tonight.....
On a side note, please stop flaming. --------------------------------------------- If you dont have anything SMART to say.....say if Often and Loud
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Val Duane
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Posted - 2004.11.22 02:13:00 -
[453]
Originally by: Levka Edited by: Levka on 22/11/2004 02:07:54 Edited by: Levka on 22/11/2004 02:07:40 I will be 1st to say that we had a very good fight tonight.....
On a side note, please stop flaming. --------------------------------------------- If you dont have anything SMART to say.....say if Often and Loud
Did you win again? 
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Val Duane
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Posted - 2004.11.22 02:13:00 -
[454]
Originally by: Levka Edited by: Levka on 22/11/2004 02:07:54 Edited by: Levka on 22/11/2004 02:07:40 I will be 1st to say that we had a very good fight tonight.....
On a side note, please stop flaming. --------------------------------------------- If you dont have anything SMART to say.....say if Often and Loud
Did you win again? 
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Levka
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Posted - 2004.11.22 02:16:00 -
[455]
Edited by: Levka on 22/11/2004 02:19:19 Val, i never claimed we won but we had a good fight......and i see you clearly ignored that "no flame" post 
p.s. Good as in FUN
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Levka
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Posted - 2004.11.22 02:16:00 -
[456]
Edited by: Levka on 22/11/2004 02:19:19 Val, i never claimed we won but we had a good fight......and i see you clearly ignored that "no flame" post 
p.s. Good as in FUN
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Val Duane
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Posted - 2004.11.22 02:47:00 -
[457]
Originally by: Levka Edited by: Levka on 22/11/2004 02:19:19 Val, i never claimed we won but we had a good fight......and i see you clearly ignored that "no flame" post 
p.s. Good as in FUN
Actually I was just asking since I been in London at a mates place all day and just got in...
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Val Duane
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Posted - 2004.11.22 02:47:00 -
[458]
Originally by: Levka Edited by: Levka on 22/11/2004 02:19:19 Val, i never claimed we won but we had a good fight......and i see you clearly ignored that "no flame" post 
p.s. Good as in FUN
Actually I was just asking since I been in London at a mates place all day and just got in...
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Levka
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Posted - 2004.11.22 02:49:00 -
[459]
Well i admitt we didnt win...which is bad...... But as I said we are taking on from what i think is BEST PVP alliance in the game and we expect to get losses.
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Levka
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Posted - 2004.11.22 02:49:00 -
[460]
Well i admitt we didnt win...which is bad...... But as I said we are taking on from what i think is BEST PVP alliance in the game and we expect to get losses.
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.22 08:17:00 -
[461]
PSAWIPE no talkee now 
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.11.22 08:17:00 -
[462]
PSAWIPE no talkee now 
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The Clash
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Posted - 2004.11.22 08:38:00 -
[463]
Originally by: sutty PSAWIPE no talkee now 
Quote: Wrong account OPPS ?
you guys are so obsessed it seems to cover up or make me look silly it makes me laugh 
if you read what i actually said you would know about now that PSA1SWIPE Acc is back to original owner for liek 2-3 days ago already 
anywayz stop hijackin teh thread vs NSA/FU  . . _________________
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The Clash
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Posted - 2004.11.22 08:38:00 -
[464]
Originally by: sutty PSAWIPE no talkee now 
Quote: Wrong account OPPS ?
you guys are so obsessed it seems to cover up or make me look silly it makes me laugh 
if you read what i actually said you would know about now that PSA1SWIPE Acc is back to original owner for liek 2-3 days ago already 
anywayz stop hijackin teh thread vs NSA/FU  . . _________________
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hatchette
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Posted - 2004.11.22 09:12:00 -
[465]
This is like a pr1ck measuring contest. But in fact, size doesn't matter... as long as you have fun with it!
It doesn't matter who had more kills or losses... what matters is we all had a good time. Killing is fun... even orgasmic! And being killed by a good opponent isn't bad either.. especially if you are necrophilliac like me;)
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hatchette
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Posted - 2004.11.22 09:12:00 -
[466]
This is like a pr1ck measuring contest. But in fact, size doesn't matter... as long as you have fun with it!
It doesn't matter who had more kills or losses... what matters is we all had a good time. Killing is fun... even orgasmic! And being killed by a good opponent isn't bad either.. especially if you are necrophilliac like me;)
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.22 09:20:00 -
[467]
Originally by: Jazz Bo Edited by: Jazz Bo on 21/11/2004 23:13:45
Originally by: Omniwar
sure people have complaned about not 100% posts on losses
Can I complain some more?
You never posted you Claw loss. Lexus666 never posted his Raven loss. Bob and Occidus didn't post their friggy losses.
AsaR never posted her Apoc loss, and Antroxu didn't post his Thorax and pod losses.
- m0o have posted some of their Celes kills, but none of their losses
- Evolution have posted their Celes kills, but none of their losses
- Atuk have posted some (not all) of their kills - including ones made in gangs with SA - but none of their losses.
In fact, the only "losses" posted are one BNC frigate, and one Gangsta Nation Scorpion (one of our pilots appears on the kill mail because he was attacking the Scorp in his Thorax when the BoB fleet arrived and he warped off IIRC).
That doesn't sound very accurate to me. Or is it a rule that you must post no losses to Celes?
Thank you.
Engage brain before posting, all my losses since that kill board was made have been posted on the kill board by me.
You and CELES are not part of PA. Or are you ?
That Claw was lost well before the kill board was made.
Engage brain before posting. Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.22 09:20:00 -
[468]
Originally by: Jazz Bo Edited by: Jazz Bo on 21/11/2004 23:13:45
Originally by: Omniwar
sure people have complaned about not 100% posts on losses
Can I complain some more?
You never posted you Claw loss. Lexus666 never posted his Raven loss. Bob and Occidus didn't post their friggy losses.
AsaR never posted her Apoc loss, and Antroxu didn't post his Thorax and pod losses.
- m0o have posted some of their Celes kills, but none of their losses
- Evolution have posted their Celes kills, but none of their losses
- Atuk have posted some (not all) of their kills - including ones made in gangs with SA - but none of their losses.
In fact, the only "losses" posted are one BNC frigate, and one Gangsta Nation Scorpion (one of our pilots appears on the kill mail because he was attacking the Scorp in his Thorax when the BoB fleet arrived and he warped off IIRC).
That doesn't sound very accurate to me. Or is it a rule that you must post no losses to Celes?
Thank you.
Engage brain before posting, all my losses since that kill board was made have been posted on the kill board by me.
You and CELES are not part of PA. Or are you ?
That Claw was lost well before the kill board was made.
Engage brain before posting. Spawn of the Devil
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.22 10:31:00 -
[469]
Edited by: Jazz Bo on 22/11/2004 10:38:11
Originally by: Omniwar
Originally by: Jazz Bo Edited by: Jazz Bo on 21/11/2004 23:13:45
Originally by: Omniwar
sure people have complaned about not 100% posts on losses
Can I complain some more?
You never posted you Claw loss. Lexus666 never posted his Raven loss. Bob and Occidus didn't post their friggy losses.
AsaR never posted her Apoc loss, and Antroxu didn't post his Thorax and pod losses.
- m0o have posted some of their Celes kills, but none of their losses
- Evolution have posted their Celes kills, but none of their losses
- Atuk have posted some (not all) of their kills - including ones made in gangs with SA - but none of their losses.
In fact, the only "losses" posted are one BNC frigate, and one Gangsta Nation Scorpion (one of our pilots appears on the kill mail because he was attacking the Scorp in his Thorax when the BoB fleet arrived and he warped off IIRC).
That doesn't sound very accurate to me. Or is it a rule that you must post no losses to Celes?
Thank you.
Engage brain before posting, all my losses since that kill board was made have been posted on the kill board by me.
You and CELES are not part of PA. Or are you ?
That Claw was lost well before the kill board was made.
Engage brain before posting.
/checks if brain has been engaged, whatever that means
We're not part of PA, agreed. Still, if you post kills made against us, you should post losses to us as well, shouldn't you.
I see you posted Little Wolf's Scorpion (28th of August), but not your Claw loss (20th of August) or Lexus666's Raven loss (3rd of September). The frigs were on the 31st of August and the 4th of September, respectively.
Even if you started posting it all between the 20th and the 28th (unlikely since the Kill Board has kills from early July, a month and a half before) there's still that Raven and the frigs missing.
And the Evol kills happened later as well, same with Atuk.
I'm a generous person, so I'll give you two ways out of this:
1. Update the Kill Board with all your losses. 2. If you're not willing to do that, remove all kills/losses for Celes from your Killboard.
You did once say that all you were interested in was getting a good K/D ratio against us, but achieving that by not posting your losses is... what's that word you like to use... lame.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.22 10:31:00 -
[470]
Edited by: Jazz Bo on 22/11/2004 10:38:11
Originally by: Omniwar
Originally by: Jazz Bo Edited by: Jazz Bo on 21/11/2004 23:13:45
Originally by: Omniwar
sure people have complaned about not 100% posts on losses
Can I complain some more?
You never posted you Claw loss. Lexus666 never posted his Raven loss. Bob and Occidus didn't post their friggy losses.
AsaR never posted her Apoc loss, and Antroxu didn't post his Thorax and pod losses.
- m0o have posted some of their Celes kills, but none of their losses
- Evolution have posted their Celes kills, but none of their losses
- Atuk have posted some (not all) of their kills - including ones made in gangs with SA - but none of their losses.
In fact, the only "losses" posted are one BNC frigate, and one Gangsta Nation Scorpion (one of our pilots appears on the kill mail because he was attacking the Scorp in his Thorax when the BoB fleet arrived and he warped off IIRC).
That doesn't sound very accurate to me. Or is it a rule that you must post no losses to Celes?
Thank you.
Engage brain before posting, all my losses since that kill board was made have been posted on the kill board by me.
You and CELES are not part of PA. Or are you ?
That Claw was lost well before the kill board was made.
Engage brain before posting.
/checks if brain has been engaged, whatever that means
We're not part of PA, agreed. Still, if you post kills made against us, you should post losses to us as well, shouldn't you.
I see you posted Little Wolf's Scorpion (28th of August), but not your Claw loss (20th of August) or Lexus666's Raven loss (3rd of September). The frigs were on the 31st of August and the 4th of September, respectively.
Even if you started posting it all between the 20th and the 28th (unlikely since the Kill Board has kills from early July, a month and a half before) there's still that Raven and the frigs missing.
And the Evol kills happened later as well, same with Atuk.
I'm a generous person, so I'll give you two ways out of this:
1. Update the Kill Board with all your losses. 2. If you're not willing to do that, remove all kills/losses for Celes from your Killboard.
You did once say that all you were interested in was getting a good K/D ratio against us, but achieving that by not posting your losses is... what's that word you like to use... lame.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Drexciyian
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Posted - 2004.11.22 10:50:00 -
[471]
Can i see Celests losses?
My Evil Half |

Drexciyian
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Posted - 2004.11.22 10:50:00 -
[472]
Can i see Celests losses?
My Evil Half |

Dianabolic
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Posted - 2004.11.22 10:53:00 -
[473]
Originally by: Jazz Bo Edited by: Jazz Bo on 22/11/2004 10:38:11
Originally by: Omniwar
Originally by: Jazz Bo Edited by: Jazz Bo on 21/11/2004 23:13:45
Originally by: Omniwar
sure people have complaned about not 100% posts on losses
Can I complain some more?
You never posted you Claw loss. Lexus666 never posted his Raven loss. Bob and Occidus didn't post their friggy losses.
AsaR never posted her Apoc loss, and Antroxu didn't post his Thorax and pod losses.
- m0o have posted some of their Celes kills, but none of their losses
- Evolution have posted their Celes kills, but none of their losses
- Atuk have posted some (not all) of their kills - including ones made in gangs with SA - but none of their losses.
In fact, the only "losses" posted are one BNC frigate, and one Gangsta Nation Scorpion (one of our pilots appears on the kill mail because he was attacking the Scorp in his Thorax when the BoB fleet arrived and he warped off IIRC).
That doesn't sound very accurate to me. Or is it a rule that you must post no losses to Celes?
Thank you.
Engage brain before posting, all my losses since that kill board was made have been posted on the kill board by me.
You and CELES are not part of PA. Or are you ?
That Claw was lost well before the kill board was made.
Engage brain before posting.
/checks if brain has been engaged, whatever that means
We're not part of PA, agreed. Still, if you post kills made against us, you should post losses to us as well, shouldn't you.
I see you posted Little Wolf's Scorpion (28th of August), but not your Claw loss (20th of August) or Lexus666's Raven loss (3rd of September). The frigs were on the 31st of August and the 4th of September, respectively.
Even if you started posting it all between the 20th and the 28th (unlikely since the Kill Board has kills from early July, a month and a half before) there's still that Raven and the frigs missing.
And the Evol kills happened later as well, same with Atuk.
I'm a generous person, so I'll give you two ways out of this:
1. Update the Kill Board with all your losses. 2. If you're not willing to do that, remove all kills/losses for Celes from your Killboard.
You did once say that all you were interested in was getting a good K/D ratio against us, but achieving that by not posting your losses is... what's that word you like to use... lame.

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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2004.11.22 10:53:00 -
[474]
Originally by: Jazz Bo Edited by: Jazz Bo on 22/11/2004 10:38:11
Originally by: Omniwar
Originally by: Jazz Bo Edited by: Jazz Bo on 21/11/2004 23:13:45
Originally by: Omniwar
sure people have complaned about not 100% posts on losses
Can I complain some more?
You never posted you Claw loss. Lexus666 never posted his Raven loss. Bob and Occidus didn't post their friggy losses.
AsaR never posted her Apoc loss, and Antroxu didn't post his Thorax and pod losses.
- m0o have posted some of their Celes kills, but none of their losses
- Evolution have posted their Celes kills, but none of their losses
- Atuk have posted some (not all) of their kills - including ones made in gangs with SA - but none of their losses.
In fact, the only "losses" posted are one BNC frigate, and one Gangsta Nation Scorpion (one of our pilots appears on the kill mail because he was attacking the Scorp in his Thorax when the BoB fleet arrived and he warped off IIRC).
That doesn't sound very accurate to me. Or is it a rule that you must post no losses to Celes?
Thank you.
Engage brain before posting, all my losses since that kill board was made have been posted on the kill board by me.
You and CELES are not part of PA. Or are you ?
That Claw was lost well before the kill board was made.
Engage brain before posting.
/checks if brain has been engaged, whatever that means
We're not part of PA, agreed. Still, if you post kills made against us, you should post losses to us as well, shouldn't you.
I see you posted Little Wolf's Scorpion (28th of August), but not your Claw loss (20th of August) or Lexus666's Raven loss (3rd of September). The frigs were on the 31st of August and the 4th of September, respectively.
Even if you started posting it all between the 20th and the 28th (unlikely since the Kill Board has kills from early July, a month and a half before) there's still that Raven and the frigs missing.
And the Evol kills happened later as well, same with Atuk.
I'm a generous person, so I'll give you two ways out of this:
1. Update the Kill Board with all your losses. 2. If you're not willing to do that, remove all kills/losses for Celes from your Killboard.
You did once say that all you were interested in was getting a good K/D ratio against us, but achieving that by not posting your losses is... what's that word you like to use... lame.

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Estios
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:02:00 -
[475]
Fighting NSA was cool, they actually do try and defend their space unlike PA.
We much preferred destroying them to PA when we were up in Branch area. I suspect a lot of fun for our Northern allies and a LOT of kills. Enjoy !!!!
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:02:00 -
[476]
Fighting NSA was cool, they actually do try and defend their space unlike PA.
We much preferred destroying them to PA when we were up in Branch area. I suspect a lot of fun for our Northern allies and a LOT of kills. Enjoy !!!!
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:08:00 -
[477]
LMFAO CELES whiner making demands 
So I shall quote my self for you.
You're a joke to the Forum UnionÖ [FU].
I'm actually thinking of putting up a vote on the next meeting of Internal Security Affairs YeoÀman of Forum Union [ISAYFU] that you all will be removed since you are an embarrasment to the rest of us.
Have a jolly nie day at the whiners today, ups diners I mean. Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:08:00 -
[478]
LMFAO CELES whiner making demands 
So I shall quote my self for you.
You're a joke to the Forum UnionÖ [FU].
I'm actually thinking of putting up a vote on the next meeting of Internal Security Affairs YeoÀman of Forum Union [ISAYFU] that you all will be removed since you are an embarrasment to the rest of us.
Have a jolly nie day at the whiners today, ups diners I mean. Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:12:00 -
[479]
But just to add for you so you stop crying.
I never posted any kills from other than PA on the kill boards made by Dimensionz.
I'm not affiliated with m0oÖ anymore.
So to ask me to add a Claw I lost to your CEO while undocking in Saranen has absolutly nothing to do with this thread.
If you want to keep on whining then make a thread about, it doesnt belong here, k? Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:12:00 -
[480]
But just to add for you so you stop crying.
I never posted any kills from other than PA on the kill boards made by Dimensionz.
I'm not affiliated with m0oÖ anymore.
So to ask me to add a Claw I lost to your CEO while undocking in Saranen has absolutly nothing to do with this thread.
If you want to keep on whining then make a thread about, it doesnt belong here, k? Spawn of the Devil
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:23:00 -
[481]
To the celest guy, pls mail me or post here any ATUK losses which are missing from OUR board:
Linkage
Atm we are having teething issues with our board/kills getting posted to BoB's 100% of teh time.
After the schooling we gave you last time we fought I think should probably drop your infatuation with banding our name round on these boards. We do feel flattered we occupy your thoughts so much but I think we've all discovered what happens when we 'bring it' to you.
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:23:00 -
[482]
To the celest guy, pls mail me or post here any ATUK losses which are missing from OUR board:
Linkage
Atm we are having teething issues with our board/kills getting posted to BoB's 100% of teh time.
After the schooling we gave you last time we fought I think should probably drop your infatuation with banding our name round on these boards. We do feel flattered we occupy your thoughts so much but I think we've all discovered what happens when we 'bring it' to you.
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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TWD
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:26:00 -
[483]
Edited by: TWD on 22/11/2004 11:29:12
Quote:
I'm a generous person, so I'll give you two ways out of this:
1. Update the Kill Board with all your losses. 2. If you're not willing to do that, remove all kills/losses for Celes from your Killboard.
You did once say that all you were interested in was getting a good K/D ratio against us, but achieving that by not posting your losses is... what's that word you like to use... lame.
You are in no position to make demands.
As I've told you, the kill list support for kills/losses against all enemy's has only been added recently (2 weeks ago?). before that it was against PA only.
so expect missing kills and losses before that date.
I don't understand what you actually want to accomplish, because if we somehow manage to add all the kills and losses, it would definately not be in favor of your corp. |

TWD
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:26:00 -
[484]
Edited by: TWD on 22/11/2004 11:29:12
Quote:
I'm a generous person, so I'll give you two ways out of this:
1. Update the Kill Board with all your losses. 2. If you're not willing to do that, remove all kills/losses for Celes from your Killboard.
You did once say that all you were interested in was getting a good K/D ratio against us, but achieving that by not posting your losses is... what's that word you like to use... lame.
You are in no position to make demands.
As I've told you, the kill list support for kills/losses against all enemy's has only been added recently (2 weeks ago?). before that it was against PA only.
so expect missing kills and losses before that date.
I don't understand what you actually want to accomplish, because if we somehow manage to add all the kills and losses, it would definately not be in favor of your corp. |

Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:31:00 -
[485]
Originally by: Omniwar But just to add for you so you stop crying.
I never posted any kills from other than PA on the kill boards made by Dimensionz.
I'm not affiliated with m0oÖ anymore.
So to ask me to add a Claw I lost to your CEO while undocking in Saranen has absolutly nothing to do with this thread.
If you want to keep on whining then make a thread about, it doesnt belong here, k?
Your Kill Board's accuracy was questioned, you defended it, that makes it one of the subjects of this thread.
You (plural) post Kills, you (plural) must also post Losses.
I just like twisting your nipples and watching you cry.
Have a nice day now.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:31:00 -
[486]
Originally by: Omniwar But just to add for you so you stop crying.
I never posted any kills from other than PA on the kill boards made by Dimensionz.
I'm not affiliated with m0oÖ anymore.
So to ask me to add a Claw I lost to your CEO while undocking in Saranen has absolutly nothing to do with this thread.
If you want to keep on whining then make a thread about, it doesnt belong here, k?
Your Kill Board's accuracy was questioned, you defended it, that makes it one of the subjects of this thread.
You (plural) post Kills, you (plural) must also post Losses.
I just like twisting your nipples and watching you cry.
Have a nice day now.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Estios To the celest guy, pls mail me or post here any ATUK losses which are missing from OUR board:
I'm not saying anything is missing from your own boards, I'm saying that some of your members are posting their Celes kills on the BoB boards, but none are posting losses there.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Estios To the celest guy, pls mail me or post here any ATUK losses which are missing from OUR board:
I'm not saying anything is missing from your own boards, I'm saying that some of your members are posting their Celes kills on the BoB boards, but none are posting losses there.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Jazz Bo
Originally by: Omniwar But just to add for you so you stop crying.
I never posted any kills from other than PA on the kill boards made by Dimensionz.
I'm not affiliated with m0oÖ anymore.
So to ask me to add a Claw I lost to your CEO while undocking in Saranen has absolutly nothing to do with this thread.
If you want to keep on whining then make a thread about, it doesnt belong here, k?
Your Kill Board's accuracy was questioned, you defended it, that makes it one of the subjects of this thread.
You (plural) post Kills, you (plural) must also post Losses.
I just like twisting your nipples and watching you cry.
Have a nice day now.
K, I'll cry then  Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Jazz Bo
Originally by: Omniwar But just to add for you so you stop crying.
I never posted any kills from other than PA on the kill boards made by Dimensionz.
I'm not affiliated with m0oÖ anymore.
So to ask me to add a Claw I lost to your CEO while undocking in Saranen has absolutly nothing to do with this thread.
If you want to keep on whining then make a thread about, it doesnt belong here, k?
Your Kill Board's accuracy was questioned, you defended it, that makes it one of the subjects of this thread.
You (plural) post Kills, you (plural) must also post Losses.
I just like twisting your nipples and watching you cry.
Have a nice day now.
K, I'll cry then  Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:37:00 -
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No wait, I wont.
All kills on the boards are 100% correct, if some other than PA kills as you say are on the boards its a mistake, specially if its CELES kill.
After all you ran away when you were in PA when EVOLÖ first came so to quote a great comedian.
YOU AINT WORTHY.
Well to humor you I'll cry anyways  Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:37:00 -
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No wait, I wont.
All kills on the boards are 100% correct, if some other than PA kills as you say are on the boards its a mistake, specially if its CELES kill.
After all you ran away when you were in PA when EVOLÖ first came so to quote a great comedian.
YOU AINT WORTHY.
Well to humor you I'll cry anyways  Spawn of the Devil
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
I don't understand what you actually want to accomplish, because if we somehow manage to add all the kills and losses, it would definately not be in favor of your corp.
All of our losses are already posted on our own boards (we've been posting our BS losses far longer than anyone else I know), so why should that make a difference?
I'm an old-fashioned, gentleman-type PvPer (whether you believe it or not), and above all I believe in fair conduct and honesty (yea I like to twist people's nipples on the forums as much as the next guy, but in-game I try to be courteous whether I win or lose).
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
I don't understand what you actually want to accomplish, because if we somehow manage to add all the kills and losses, it would definately not be in favor of your corp.
All of our losses are already posted on our own boards (we've been posting our BS losses far longer than anyone else I know), so why should that make a difference?
I'm an old-fashioned, gentleman-type PvPer (whether you believe it or not), and above all I believe in fair conduct and honesty (yea I like to twist people's nipples on the forums as much as the next guy, but in-game I try to be courteous whether I win or lose).
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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TWD
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Jazz Bo
Originally by: Estios To the celest guy, pls mail me or post here any ATUK losses which are missing from OUR board:
I'm not saying anything is missing from your own boards, I'm saying that some of your members are posting their Celes kills on the BoB boards, but none are posting losses there.
again:
Quote:
As I've told you, the kill list support for kills/losses against all enemy's has only been added recently (2 weeks ago?). before that it was against PA only.
so expect missing kills and losses before that date.
simple fact is, you have not killed many of our ships.
we only have very few kills against your corp listed and also few losses listed.
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TWD
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Jazz Bo
Originally by: Estios To the celest guy, pls mail me or post here any ATUK losses which are missing from OUR board:
I'm not saying anything is missing from your own boards, I'm saying that some of your members are posting their Celes kills on the BoB boards, but none are posting losses there.
again:
Quote:
As I've told you, the kill list support for kills/losses against all enemy's has only been added recently (2 weeks ago?). before that it was against PA only.
so expect missing kills and losses before that date.
simple fact is, you have not killed many of our ships.
we only have very few kills against your corp listed and also few losses listed.
I really don't understand what you try to accomplish? |

Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:41:00 -
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Oh yea, I consider this thread succesfully hijacked.
/sets destination to Cuba
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:41:00 -
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Oh yea, I consider this thread succesfully hijacked.
/sets destination to Cuba
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jazz Bo Oh yea, I consider this thread succesfully hijacked.
/sets destination to Cuba
So you're a forum troll ?
Who would have guessed  Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jazz Bo Oh yea, I consider this thread succesfully hijacked.
/sets destination to Cuba
So you're a forum troll ?
Who would have guessed  Spawn of the Devil
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Drexciyian
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:57:00 -
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Just come to venal and we can settle this!
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Drexciyian
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:57:00 -
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Just come to venal and we can settle this!
My Evil Half |

Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.22 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Omniwar
Originally by: Jazz Bo Oh yea, I consider this thread succesfully hijacked.
/sets destination to Cuba
So you're a forum troll ?
Who would have guessed 
/covers his "Deputy Forum Troll 1st Class" insignia
Who, me?!
Nah, it wasn't an intentional hijack.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.22 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Omniwar
Originally by: Jazz Bo Oh yea, I consider this thread succesfully hijacked.
/sets destination to Cuba
So you're a forum troll ?
Who would have guessed 
/covers his "Deputy Forum Troll 1st Class" insignia
Who, me?!
Nah, it wasn't an intentional hijack.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.11.22 12:43:00 -
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Talking of hijacks, Ive never understood people who Hijack Planes and force them to fly somewhere else.....why not just get on the right plane in the 1st place ??
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.11.22 12:43:00 -
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Talking of hijacks, Ive never understood people who Hijack Planes and force them to fly somewhere else.....why not just get on the right plane in the 1st place ??
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.22 12:55:00 -
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Edited by: Jazz Bo on 22/11/2004 12:58:50
Originally by: Estios Talking of hijacks, Ive never understood people who Hijack Planes and force them to fly somewhere else.....why not just get on the right plane in the 1st place ??
1. No need to book a flight
2. You can go whenever you like
3. In the olden days, if you wanted to go to Cuba (think sunshine, cigars, high quality dark rum, and pretty cuban communist girls), you would have to go to Moscow first.
(just kidding of course, I don't condone airplane hijacking... evil air piracy )
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.22 12:55:00 -
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Edited by: Jazz Bo on 22/11/2004 12:58:50
Originally by: Estios Talking of hijacks, Ive never understood people who Hijack Planes and force them to fly somewhere else.....why not just get on the right plane in the 1st place ??
1. No need to book a flight
2. You can go whenever you like
3. In the olden days, if you wanted to go to Cuba (think sunshine, cigars, high quality dark rum, and pretty cuban communist girls), you would have to go to Moscow first.
(just kidding of course, I don't condone airplane hijacking... evil air piracy )
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.11.22 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: Sassinak on 22/11/2004 13:11:11 Everyone put the rulers away yet?
Ahh well, atleast NSA are getting schooled Sass Arcane Technologies |

Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.11.22 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: Sassinak on 22/11/2004 13:11:11 Everyone put the rulers away yet?
Ahh well, atleast NSA are getting schooled Sass Arcane Technologies |
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Raven DeBlade
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Posted - 2004.11.22 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Estios Talking of hijacks, Ive never understood people who Hijack Planes and force them to fly somewhere else.....why not just get on the right plane in the 1st place ??
i fully agree... maybe they have a hard time to read? =)
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees"
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Raven DeBlade
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Posted - 2004.11.22 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Estios Talking of hijacks, Ive never understood people who Hijack Planes and force them to fly somewhere else.....why not just get on the right plane in the 1st place ??
i fully agree... maybe they have a hard time to read? =)
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees"
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Rath Amon
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Posted - 2004.11.22 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Estios Talking of hijacks, Ive never understood people who Hijack Planes and force them to fly somewhere else.....why not just get on the right plane in the 1st place ??
probably the same reason suicide bombers never think about simply adding a timer to the bomb and walking away
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Rath Amon
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Posted - 2004.11.22 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Estios Talking of hijacks, Ive never understood people who Hijack Planes and force them to fly somewhere else.....why not just get on the right plane in the 1st place ??
probably the same reason suicide bombers never think about simply adding a timer to the bomb and walking away
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.11.22 14:09:00 -
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Locked for flaming, trolling and going offtopic.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |

Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.11.22 14:09:00 -
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Locked for flaming, trolling and going offtopic.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |
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